2023 Stock Market Hell JUST Beginning | 90% Drop.
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oof is it possible that 2023 could be
even worse than 2022 well Goldman Sachs
says so Citibank has three scenarios for
us which we'll be going through here
we'll talk a little bit about what CFOs
are thinking what are consumers doing
and oh man what are some of the charts
tell us we might be facing
well let's get into this because uh in
one of the scenarios we see a negative
90 percent number and it's just not that
good okay anyway let's get right into it
so first Goldman Sachs believes that the
bear Market is not over in fact they
expect that the stock market the S P 500
will essentially be flat all the way
through to 2000 and 2023's end uh that's
because they believe that the S P 500
will end at 4 000 in 2023. if you see
here we are presently within one percent
of that level and that's not very
optimistic of an outlook for 2023 they
cite the rapid deterioration of economic
conditions they suggest that this
process is just now beginning
and that potentially the bottoming of
earnings per shares for companies isn't
even in sight that we might not actually
see the bottom of earnings per share for
companies until potentially late in 2023
or early 2024. now do keep in mind that
in other research Goldman Sachs analysts
have suggested that the stock market
tends to bottom about six months before
the bottom of an earnings recession as
the bottom of earnings per share but the
question is where is that bottom if the
bottoms of earnings per share for
companies doesn't actually come around
until let's say Easter 2024 then we
might not actually bottom out until
November of 2023 so that's leading to a
lot of Doom and Gloom so much so that
when you look at what CFOs is surveyed
by Deloitte say 39 that's almost 4 out
of ten actually expect stagflation in
2023 that means no growth and high
inflation yikes 46 of those Chief
Financial officers expect a recession in
2023 which gosh at this point seems like
it's already kind of baked in the cake
but uh then again you looked at the
stock market on The Daily it's like nope
nothing's baked in the cake it just
seems to get worse and worse and then
when you try to compare January of 2020
to what we're seeing now you're actually
seeing some serious changes in consumer
Behavior as well just consider this if
we look at consumers personal savings
rates and compare it to Consumers uh
credit card spending or I should say
credit card debt rates look at the
inversion of these curves it's not
usually what we think of when we think
of an inversion but look at this you've
got the green line representing the
personal savings rates uh personal
savings rate falling to 3.1 percent
that's the lowest level on this entire
chart and this chart goes all the way
back to 2000 16. 3.1 percent personal
savings rate that is the lowest level
and then when we look at a total
revolving debt based on data just
released from the Federal Reserve what
do we have we have oh dear much more
than where we were at pre-pandemic
levels now if you adjust this for
inflation
we're basically at
the same trend line for pre-pandemic
levels so if you look at real credit
spending you see oh yep we're right back
at 2019 levels of credit outstanding not
so great for the consumers and so that's
leading some to say okay well are we
actually starting to see any stress in
the consumer yet because it seems like
you know earnings for last quarter were
still pretty good right I mean 63
percent of companies in the S P 500 beat
so how bad could it be for consumers
well if you look at something that is
held up really really well we start
seeing a little bit of an inflection
point take a look at this a little scary
look at this this is a chart showing you
how many people are going through TSA
checkpoints and all of the airlines have
been telling us oh demand has been so
resilient you know Airbnb is like oh
demand is so great everything's going
great but look at what we actually have
here which we have not yet seen
look at that a downtrend if we actually
try to get the angle here without the
iPad correcting it there we go look at
that downtrend that we have on TSA
travel now in case you're wondering
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you're wondering about this dip over
here this is really your Delta variant
right here so you kind of want to take
that out and if you take that out out
what you see is actually a really nice
uptrend recovering out of that pandemic
right and we were kind of trending back
to what we saw in those sort of
pre-covered levels and keep in mind one
of the reasons airports sucks so much is
because right now the airline industry
is basically running at like 95 of what
it used to be except there's a lot more
demand today or at least we were
trending in that direction until just
recently here where we've kind of
started seeing a little bit of a
Slowdown now this slowdown is a Slowdown
that we've seen throughout 2022 but it
does make you wonder hey is it possible
though we've hit Peak earnings for the
Airlines and potentially even Airbnb now
vacasa will tell you oh yeah Airbnb has
hit Peak we are seeing short-term
rentals dry up but Airbnb will tell you
don't worry in recessions people want to
rent out other rooms in their homes or
maybe even their own home while they go
on vacation I don't know about that but
we think we'll see more growth for
people renting out rooms on Airbnb then
uh than in a normal environment I don't
personally agree with that I think
there's a potential here we could be
hitting Peak Travel and I think that's
an important warning to watch for
because if we align Peak Travel
potentially with a peak housing market
and Peak residential Investments we're
going to see that consumer spend really
plummet on residential Investments solar
Travel consumer discretionary spend and
where are we starting to see real cracks
of consumer discretionary spend well how
about Target
consider what we heard from companies at
the beginning of 2022 we heard oh we
have pricing power we have the most PP
in the world we have pricing power all
day long we can raise prices and people
keep spending spending spending what are
companies like Target telling us now
well it's not good this is something we
went through with course members this
morning in more detail than we will here
but what you're seeing is consumers are
showing increasing signs of stress
they're pulling back on discretionary
purchases later in this document they
even say that people are not only
pulling back on discretionary purchases
but they're running so low on money that
they're even starting to have to pull
back on household essentials
sure Beauty and food are still doing
well but sales Trends are softening
people are spending more money on like
via debt and on their credit cards
another thing Target talked about in
their earnings call we're seeing more
theft and we're seeing more weakness in
the last few weeks of October and the
beginning of November what is that
telling you well it's actually telling
you wait a minute
we just had Q3 earnings but Target is
warning about an inflection in Q4
October right October November December
that's Q4 so is it possible that we're
actually about to get the really bad
earnings in q1 and Q2 for companies
related to Consumer spend be it travel
discretionary spending like toys or
apparel or bathing suits like what
Target's talking about or are we also
going to see pullback on things like
buying Teslas maybe and that seems to be
what the market is trying to try to you
know parse out right now uh oh maybe
everything is going to go in the toilet
in the first half of 2023 and maybe
Goldman Sachs will be right
kind of scary and so this is where when
we look at the Federal Reserve we're
like hey well the fed's gonna relax on
their hiking Pace right and then then
maybe maybe like the stock market can
stabilize right
the problem with that is there's little
indication of the market actually
pricing in any kind of lid here on the
Federal Reserves terminal fed funds rate
in fact we're knocking on doors of
all-time high expectations for how high
the FED is going to hike so you've got a
fed that's hiking extremely aggressively
to levels that we have not seen in any
other prior hiking cycle because folks
we are hiking at the fastest rate that
we have seen since the
1980s it's insane now sure we're seeing
commodity prices fall we're seeing the
prices of freight start to plummet and
inflect it down this is great these are
disinflationary forces that could lead
to a nice amount of uh and falling
inflation in 2023 and maybe we'll have a
floor put under the stock market and
we'll all be right back to the Moon
maybe this is where we have to look at
citibank's three projections and
potential targets but let's just start
by saying it very simply
there's a lot of uncertainty ahead and
when we inflect from what we saw at the
beginning of 2020 two which was
everybody's got pricing power to where
we are now nobody's got pricing power
and all of a sudden prices are falling
and all of a sudden consumers aren't
spending anymore you get a lot of fear
that earnings are all going to get
revised down in Q4 including at a
company like Tesla now I believe or
maybe hope I'm not quite sure that Tesla
will be just fine but what a Citibank
thing all right well let's take a look
at that city gives us three scenarios in
one scenario they actually think that we
have so much bearish sentiment right now
that everybody is expecting everything
to be so freaking bad that they're not
actually considering that consumers are
overall in a better place than where
they used to be even though debt is
rising even though savings rates are low
we might be in a situation where
inflation Falls very quickly and this
coming recession ends up being a soft
and shallow recession and we end up
getting a short squeeze to the upside
and we rebound nicely
it's one idea for the S P 500 in markets
of course then there's a counter
argument that Citibank released which is
well
or we have to actually get through the
real recession that the real recession
hasn't happened yet that quantitative
tightening has barely just started to
affect our markets and that potentially
some stocks being down over 90 percent
it's just the beginning carvana being
down over 97 percent and really it's not
the inverting of the yield curve that
hurts we've got some of the deepest
levels of inversion today than we've had
in the last 20 years but it's the
subsequent steepening that actually
leads to real pain for stocks as
earnings bottom
problem is all recession indicators are
looked at in hindsight and the fact of
the matter is in the last 100 years
stocks have never bottomed before a
recession has begun so this kind of
makes you hope that if you're a bull
that we're already in a recession but if
we're not in a recession that maybe that
means we have another leg down as
Goldman suggests in their bearish
scenario they do though also have a
balanced scenario this is sort of the
middle of the road scenario and this is
where they see earnings Falling by at
least 10 percent in 2023 and the share
price declines that we've already seen
might actually be looked at as a down
payment so to speak towards earnings per
share declines so it's kind of like if
share prices are going down don't worry
they're going down but
we're kind of already pricing in the
earnings per share paying that we're
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why not the worst is over and what
generally rallies first well generally
stocks do generally an economy rallies
its way out of a recession with stocks
leading the way
and there have only been two bear
markets in the last 100 years that have
taken more than two years to find a
bottom giving a lot of hope that maybe
will get some green in 2023 worst case
it's two years of pain but then we're up
from there
who knows a lot of potential pain
and this is where some folks say hey if
we do get that sort of scenario where
all of a sudden consumers you know
really do pull back we see those EPS
declines
the fed's potentially going to have to
u-turn on either how high their hiking
rates or they'll have to soften on their
inflation Target and move their two
percent Target maybe to something like a
three percent Target
either way Goldman Sachs and City give
us plenty of warnings that earnings per
share are coming down we know this has
been coming for probably the last six
months the question now is which
companies and this is the hard part
which companies are going to have the
best opportunity to prove that their
earnings per share already took the hit
or are no longer going to take as bad of
a hit as markets expect things won't be
as bad as expected and could rebound out
are those going to be companies like the
chips Nvidia AMD tsmc are they going to
be Autos companies like Tesla pole Star
Ford
not really good estimates looking out
there for four right now especially in
that EV sector or is the best thing to
do to just stick with oil even though
oil prices are starting to decline on
the other hand if we look at our sectors
Consumer Staples the S P 500 they're
only down three percent year-to-date
could that be the place to continue to
hide or are those Consumer Staples going
to start getting sold off like Walmart
once we rotate back into maybe a tech
rally which has fallen somewhere around
26 percent year to date
I don't know but what I do know is
there's a lot of pain out there and I
hope to talk to you in our course member
live streams check out the links down
below and folks we'll see in the next
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