The Worsening Recession & Fed Pivot Stock Crash [-50%].
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well folks don't sue me bro but we know
it's on everyone's mind and yeah I
pressed the music button a little late
but you know what we've all been worried
about a recession and in this video
we're gonna go through some unique
recession indicators there are two there
are two indicators in this video that
you probably haven't heard of before and
then we're gonna look at a B of A piece
on what just happened with something
called thrust in the stock market
something we briefly touched on already
but with a different perspective here
from B of A so let's talk about those
three things the first thing that I
thought was incredible was this piece
here by TS Lombard now keep in mind when
you hear TS Lombard you should
immediately be thinking bear okay they
are Burrs their entire staff I don't
know what it is but they're just Bears
just like it's getting crashed it's
gonna get worse it's it's all getting
good at crap but for some reason they're
also very balanced so I like them
because they they actually give some
realistic povs of things to watch for so
I appreciate that you know they make it
very clear that their stances look the
credit crunch is going to probably crush
us into a recession okay fine however
they're also reasonable here and they
say hey look when you look at the U.S
inflation dashboard basically on the
left when it's very rare red it means
inflation's going up and on the right
when it turns blue it means inflation is
going down and as you can see it's
starting to Trend down right so so
they're realistic they're like okay
things are getting better that's
wonderful things are disinflating great
uh and uh and uh they hold they still
hold their mid-year recession forecast
but take a look at this particular chart
I thought this was a very interesting
one that I haven't considered at all yet
when it comes to a recession or not and
it's called The Well the title here
chart four hotel room rates not yet
signaling a recession and I thought
about this a little little bit mostly
because of Ross Gerber every time I meet
Ross Gerber and I just met Ross Gerber
in Deer Valley Utah
and Ross Gerber I sit down with him uh
as he's eating lunch with his family and
he's like Kevin there's no recession
look around
I'm like it's pretty busy when we were
there uh but but it made it reading this
chart right here made me think about my
meeting with Ross because to some extent
yeah when you're in a recession hotel
rooms tank and that hope because people
travel less for vacation and people
travel less for business this makes a
lot of sense so in a weird way maybe
you could look at the CPI report as a
tool which is actually doing a really
good job for you I mean if you believe
the government's work to that extent if
you don't then obviously it's CP lie but
anyway every month they are looking at a
basket of hotels and they're looking at
the difference in pricing of those
hotels and so far as you can see on this
chart Hotel pricing is still recovering
pretty well now it's possible that it's
recovering because it went so deep into
a hole but then again we've already had
this recovery fall and then recovery
again see we actually went negative on
this chart without having a recession or
an official recession yet technically
last year we already had a recession
right let's jump over here to the CPI
report because we had two quarters in a
row of negative GDP jump into the CPI
report what do you have here lodging
away from home let's understand the
headlines of the CPI report really quick
so we're going to look at the right
three to get our seasonally adjusted and
then the left two to get are unadjusted
so if I type in lodging there we go so
these are going to be the seasonally
adjusted right here that's your essay
and these are your unadjusted okay good
so what do you have well unadjusted you
got you got some big numbers here for
lodging away from home uh these
percentages seven point that's got to be
year over year hold on a second let's go
back to the front of the CPI report
and the yeah these are year over you oh
okay it's year over year and then month
over month unadjusted okay got it
I'm gonna say all right so we jump on
over here well that's actually still wow
what no that can't be possible hold on a
second they both have to be year over
year am I reading this wrong
no I'm not look at that unadjusted
percent change March 22 to March 23 and
then Feb 23 to March 23 which is a one
month change and uh the CPI report here
on the unadjusted side is really
suggesting lots of inflation over here
on the unadjusted month of a month but
either way on the right you can see on
sort of the seasonally adjusted yeah
you're still getting this explosion I
guess it makes sense 2.7 percent growth
in lodging away from home month over
month I mean think about what that is
annualized 2.7 annualized is a 32.4
percent increase uh on a year-over-year
basis if that lodging away from home
goes on like this and you can see look
it's actually getting worse if I draw
this as an orange highlight right here
look at that we go from 1.2 to 2.3 to
2.7 the prices for hotels are going up
not down
that's very interesting because
according to T.S Lombard that's
literally the opposite of a recession
indicator where generally when you go
negative deeply negative on hotel room
pricing that's when you tend to be
starting a recession now it's possible
that you're already in a recession when
hotel rooms go negative in fact if I
look at this a little a little more
closely you can kind of see here the
recession on the left in 21 or 2001
starts here just about where hotels are
about at that zero point the recession
here has an inflection point first on
hotel rooms so you do see an inflection
point down right so you see an
inflection before you get the recession
you don't actually get the depth until
you're in the recession but look at that
even over here during the covet era you
see the full a few months before so
really this is suggesting hey in order
for us to go into a recession we need to
at least see hotel room occupancy on CPI
report for April May June we could get
those three months and if all of a
sudden we get that in hotels it could be
a recession indicator
kind of interesting it's a good tool to
pay attention to it's not the only one
though the second one and then we'll get
into B of A the second one I want to
look at is this uh oops it's not that
one but I'm going to talk about that one
as well that one's pretty cool this one
all right so this is from the greed and
fear index which is a Jeffrey's piece
and uh they talk about how small
businesses have slowed hiring plans to
the lowest level since May of 2020 and
when we look at this index over here I
drew red lines on it to make it a little
easier to identify these areas of
declines but you can clearly see small
business hiring goes down very slowly
and it tends to lead to a recession when
it goes down now In fairness it really
led to this sort of mild
nonsensical recession over here in the
early 90s but
it does appear that every time you have
the small business hiring plan turned
from growth to Bear mode you do go into
recession and that's what we're starting
to see over here on the right we're just
now starting to see this small business
hiring plan rotate down it's still way
elevated though because if I take the
bottom of where we are with with small
business hiring plans
draw that across the board we're still
we're still I would say the upper third
of the historical average of this chart
right I mean if I uh draw across sort of
a midpoint over here this right this top
section here would be the top third this
would be your middle third and this
would be your bottom third here and it
we're clearly still at the top third but
that's because of this massive
enthusiasm that small businesses had
during the uh covet era uh probably
because uh you know of all the stimulus
money I mean starting a business in 2020
and 2021 was great
here's your small business survey on
wage hike plans and you see a decline on
wage hikes but again if I draw from that
low Point all the way over we're
actually sitting probably at the top 15
of plans plans to raise wages uh small
business optimism is one of the only
things where we're actually starting to
go low along with small business cap X
plans which you can see these two charts
here are at relative lows these are
probably in the lower 20 percent uh
threshold so you kind of have mixed
signals here from small businesses where
everything is clearly declining right
capex and optimism plans are down uh
wage hike plans are down hiring plans
are down however hiring plans are still
uh at highs when you look at the early
2000s or the mid-2000s so I think both
of these indicators together suggest
that we probably still have more time to
go go before we're in a recessionary
environment now Barclays did a
phenomenal piece here on what happens
with stocks in various different
circumstances of uh of basically um
recession or not
and I'm going to show you this in just a
moment but I want to think about what
these what these charts are saying for a
moment so a quick signpost here
really what I think
a lot of the data that we're getting
today is saying uh is first of all don't
sue me bro but second of all is patience
that has probably been the hardest thing
for me to like learn over the last years
because everything's always been so fast
and uh since the beginning of 2022 back
in that January when I sold and then you
know obviously later I started rebuying
and then I launched an ETF and a real
estate started myself overall that time
I the biggest thing I learned is like
this like these Cycles take a lot longer
than we think and yesterday there were
actually some calls that we might not
see a recession until 2024 and so what
feels weird is it feels like we keep
kicking the can down the road I mean
yesterday in the course member live
stream we briefly went through some of
the JPM numbers and I'll tell you those
JPM numbers without going through and
rehashing all of it now the GPM numbers
were amazing I mean yeah average
deposits were starting to move down a
little bit a lot of that has to do with
people moving money over into money
markets but credit card and debit card
data is still up substantially lending
is up revenue is up I mean JPM was
absolutely destroying it I still don't
want to be involved with JPM but when
you look at credit losses you're
actually seeing credit losses decline at
Industrials like Fastenal you're seeing
credit losses decline like the rate of
growth of credit losses they're still
increasing in some cases but they're
barely increasing uh JPM barely
increasing credit losses I think one of
the only places that I've actually seen
increased credit losses has been CarMax
but then again you're dealing with used
car buyers who are more likely to be
subprime uh which is bad credit score
right so overall I have to say like you
know here we are in April we could
potentially have another year of no
recession I'm not saying there won't be
a recession it's just we keep kicking
they damn something down the road the
more we kick it down the road the better
though because the more we kick it down
the road the more the cancer of
inflation is potentially negative and we
just go back to cranking the money I'm
not saying that's exactly what we want
because we don't want to just repeat
this over and over and over again and
end up with three waves of inflation
like the 70s right but I already
debunked the three waves of inflation
yesterday you could type into YouTube
Three waves of inflation me Kevin you'll
see what but look at this
this is really fascinating equities on
average continue to rise after the last
fed raid hike oh wow that was
interesting look at that here's the end
of the hiking cycle that middle line
right there you get some volatility
going into it but on average it looks
like most equities tend to rise slightly
after the last Fed rate height however
on average you tend to get a fall on
average after the first cut now
obviously I've made the argument many
times before that the reason the FED is
would it cut is because the cancer of
inflation is gone they're not going to
cut until that happens and in my opinion
there's a chance the stock market could
actually see through that uh because
again once the cancer is gone it's like
okay yeah we just have to go through a
little bit of pain and then and then
we're good again right who knows but
that has happened before look for
example at the stock market in 19 in the
1980 recession which is interesting
because that came right before the Paul
volcker but they were raising rate to
fight inflation without having to go
Paul volcker level yet and look at what
happened it's this light blue line right
here above that red line I just drew
equities did very well in fact from the
cut
to the end of the 1980 cycle stocks went
up like 25
however when we got Paul volckerd stocks
actually went down about I'd say about
15 and then the average is the red line
here now the average is actually
phenomenal the average suggests flat
so that's weird because everybody's like
oh my God the First Rate Cut's gonna
crash the market well not really the
average is the red line right there and
it shows flat after the First Rate cut
but after the pause you actually get
about a seven to eight percent rally in
stocks kind of interesting this is
really interesting data all of this data
isn't very bearish combine it with PPI
retail sales CPI uh a PC from last month
a lot of the data that we're getting
just is not that terrible now uh this
was the breadth indicator that we had
talked about uh and Bank of America is
basically also reiterating how this is a
bullish signal basically this was a the
Bloomberg chart that I shared yesterday
essentially suggesting that oh this is
bullish like usually when this indicator
flips it's very bullish for markets and
uh the that thrust indicator
it's left we talked about it yesterday
Bank of America did a whole piece
reiterating how bullish it is now I
didn't want to get blindly you know
bullish here I feel like I'm already
bullish enough but I think the the
argument here is we might still have
time we might still have a good chunk of
patience ahead of us before we actually
hit a recession it might not be as soon
as June or July it could be a Christmas
recession or a or a q1 of 24 recession
and by that point it could be so mild
because inflation could be so low I mean
who knows but it'll be very interesting
to pay attention to and I think now
we've got a couple good leading
indicators not only the small business
leading indicators but personally if you
want an easy one look for that
inflection in hotel rooms uh because we
have not seen that inflection in hotel
rooms yet so I know it feels nuanced but
it it very much hits people's sentiment
when they say or it's an it's evidence
of people's sentiment changing when they
stop traveling right and I think that's
really you know throws back to the Ross
Gerber argument which is there's no
recession
you're looking around at basically what
people are actually physically doing uh
so we we like to refer to that as our
Ross Gerber research where you
physically go somewhere like yesterday I
went to Red Robin and I'm like oh my god
there are a lot of people here and I
thought this was a charity because they
lose money anyway uh so that some of my
thoughts on the recession here uh if if
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