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well folks don't sue me bro but we know

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it's on everyone's mind and yeah I

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pressed the music button a little late

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but you know what we've all been worried

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about a recession and in this video

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we're gonna go through some unique

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recession indicators there are two there

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are two indicators in this video that

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you probably haven't heard of before and

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then we're gonna look at a B of A piece

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on what just happened with something

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called thrust in the stock market

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something we briefly touched on already

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but with a different perspective here

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from B of A so let's talk about those

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three things the first thing that I

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thought was incredible was this piece

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here by TS Lombard now keep in mind when

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you hear TS Lombard you should

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immediately be thinking bear okay they

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are Burrs their entire staff I don't

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know what it is but they're just Bears

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just like it's getting crashed it's

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gonna get worse it's it's all getting

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good at crap but for some reason they're

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also very balanced so I like them

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because they they actually give some

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realistic povs of things to watch for so

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I appreciate that you know they make it

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very clear that their stances look the

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credit crunch is going to probably crush

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us into a recession okay fine however

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they're also reasonable here and they

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say hey look when you look at the U.S

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inflation dashboard basically on the

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left when it's very rare red it means

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inflation's going up and on the right

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when it turns blue it means inflation is

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going down and as you can see it's

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starting to Trend down right so so

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they're realistic they're like okay

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things are getting better that's

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wonderful things are disinflating great

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uh and uh and uh they hold they still

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hold their mid-year recession forecast

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but take a look at this particular chart

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I thought this was a very interesting

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one that I haven't considered at all yet

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when it comes to a recession or not and

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it's called The Well the title here

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chart four hotel room rates not yet

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signaling a recession and I thought

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about this a little little bit mostly

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because of Ross Gerber every time I meet

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Ross Gerber and I just met Ross Gerber

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in Deer Valley Utah

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and Ross Gerber I sit down with him uh

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as he's eating lunch with his family and

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he's like Kevin there's no recession

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look around

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I'm like it's pretty busy when we were

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there uh but but it made it reading this

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chart right here made me think about my

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meeting with Ross because to some extent

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yeah when you're in a recession hotel

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rooms tank and that hope because people

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travel less for vacation and people

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travel less for business this makes a

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lot of sense so in a weird way maybe

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you could look at the CPI report as a

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tool which is actually doing a really

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good job for you I mean if you believe

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the government's work to that extent if

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you don't then obviously it's CP lie but

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anyway every month they are looking at a

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basket of hotels and they're looking at

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the difference in pricing of those

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hotels and so far as you can see on this

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chart Hotel pricing is still recovering

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pretty well now it's possible that it's

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recovering because it went so deep into

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a hole but then again we've already had

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this recovery fall and then recovery

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again see we actually went negative on

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this chart without having a recession or

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an official recession yet technically

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last year we already had a recession

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right let's jump over here to the CPI

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report because we had two quarters in a

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row of negative GDP jump into the CPI

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report what do you have here lodging

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away from home let's understand the

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headlines of the CPI report really quick

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so we're going to look at the right

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three to get our seasonally adjusted and

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then the left two to get are unadjusted

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so if I type in lodging there we go so

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these are going to be the seasonally

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adjusted right here that's your essay

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and these are your unadjusted okay good

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so what do you have well unadjusted you

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got you got some big numbers here for

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lodging away from home uh these

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percentages seven point that's got to be

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year over year hold on a second let's go

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back to the front of the CPI report

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and the yeah these are year over you oh

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okay it's year over year and then month

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over month unadjusted okay got it

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I'm gonna say all right so we jump on

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over here well that's actually still wow

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what no that can't be possible hold on a

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second they both have to be year over

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year am I reading this wrong

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no I'm not look at that unadjusted

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percent change March 22 to March 23 and

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then Feb 23 to March 23 which is a one

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month change and uh the CPI report here

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on the unadjusted side is really

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suggesting lots of inflation over here

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on the unadjusted month of a month but

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either way on the right you can see on

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sort of the seasonally adjusted yeah

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you're still getting this explosion I

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guess it makes sense 2.7 percent growth

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in lodging away from home month over

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month I mean think about what that is

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annualized 2.7 annualized is a 32.4

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percent increase uh on a year-over-year

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basis if that lodging away from home

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goes on like this and you can see look

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it's actually getting worse if I draw

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this as an orange highlight right here

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look at that we go from 1.2 to 2.3 to

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2.7 the prices for hotels are going up

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not down

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that's very interesting because

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according to T.S Lombard that's

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literally the opposite of a recession

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indicator where generally when you go

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negative deeply negative on hotel room

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pricing that's when you tend to be

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starting a recession now it's possible

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that you're already in a recession when

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hotel rooms go negative in fact if I

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look at this a little a little more

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closely you can kind of see here the

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recession on the left in 21 or 2001

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starts here just about where hotels are

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about at that zero point the recession

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here has an inflection point first on

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hotel rooms so you do see an inflection

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point down right so you see an

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inflection before you get the recession

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you don't actually get the depth until

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you're in the recession but look at that

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even over here during the covet era you

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see the full a few months before so

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really this is suggesting hey in order

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for us to go into a recession we need to

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at least see hotel room occupancy on CPI

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report for April May June we could get

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those three months and if all of a

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sudden we get that in hotels it could be

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a recession indicator

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kind of interesting it's a good tool to

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pay attention to it's not the only one

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though the second one and then we'll get

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into B of A the second one I want to

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look at is this uh oops it's not that

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one but I'm going to talk about that one

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as well that one's pretty cool this one

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all right so this is from the greed and

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fear index which is a Jeffrey's piece

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and uh they talk about how small

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businesses have slowed hiring plans to

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the lowest level since May of 2020 and

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when we look at this index over here I

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drew red lines on it to make it a little

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easier to identify these areas of

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declines but you can clearly see small

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business hiring goes down very slowly

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and it tends to lead to a recession when

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it goes down now In fairness it really

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led to this sort of mild

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nonsensical recession over here in the

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early 90s but

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it does appear that every time you have

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the small business hiring plan turned

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from growth to Bear mode you do go into

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recession and that's what we're starting

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to see over here on the right we're just

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now starting to see this small business

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hiring plan rotate down it's still way

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elevated though because if I take the

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bottom of where we are with with small

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business hiring plans

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draw that across the board we're still

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we're still I would say the upper third

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of the historical average of this chart

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right I mean if I uh draw across sort of

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a midpoint over here this right this top

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section here would be the top third this

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would be your middle third and this

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would be your bottom third here and it

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we're clearly still at the top third but

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that's because of this massive

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enthusiasm that small businesses had

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during the uh covet era uh probably

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because uh you know of all the stimulus

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money I mean starting a business in 2020

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and 2021 was great

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here's your small business survey on

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wage hike plans and you see a decline on

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wage hikes but again if I draw from that

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low Point all the way over we're

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actually sitting probably at the top 15

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of plans plans to raise wages uh small

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business optimism is one of the only

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things where we're actually starting to

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go low along with small business cap X

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plans which you can see these two charts

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here are at relative lows these are

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probably in the lower 20 percent uh

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threshold so you kind of have mixed

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signals here from small businesses where

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everything is clearly declining right

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capex and optimism plans are down uh

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wage hike plans are down hiring plans

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are down however hiring plans are still

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uh at highs when you look at the early

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2000s or the mid-2000s so I think both

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of these indicators together suggest

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that we probably still have more time to

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go go before we're in a recessionary

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environment now Barclays did a

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phenomenal piece here on what happens

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with stocks in various different

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circumstances of uh of basically um

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recession or not

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and I'm going to show you this in just a

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moment but I want to think about what

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these what these charts are saying for a

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moment so a quick signpost here

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really what I think

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a lot of the data that we're getting

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today is saying uh is first of all don't

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sue me bro but second of all is patience

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that has probably been the hardest thing

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for me to like learn over the last years

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because everything's always been so fast

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and uh since the beginning of 2022 back

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in that January when I sold and then you

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know obviously later I started rebuying

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and then I launched an ETF and a real

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estate started myself overall that time

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I the biggest thing I learned is like

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this like these Cycles take a lot longer

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than we think and yesterday there were

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actually some calls that we might not

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see a recession until 2024 and so what

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feels weird is it feels like we keep

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kicking the can down the road I mean

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yesterday in the course member live

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stream we briefly went through some of

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the JPM numbers and I'll tell you those

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JPM numbers without going through and

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rehashing all of it now the GPM numbers

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were amazing I mean yeah average

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deposits were starting to move down a

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little bit a lot of that has to do with

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people moving money over into money

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markets but credit card and debit card

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data is still up substantially lending

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is up revenue is up I mean JPM was

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absolutely destroying it I still don't

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want to be involved with JPM but when

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you look at credit losses you're

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actually seeing credit losses decline at

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Industrials like Fastenal you're seeing

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credit losses decline like the rate of

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growth of credit losses they're still

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increasing in some cases but they're

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barely increasing uh JPM barely

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increasing credit losses I think one of

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the only places that I've actually seen

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increased credit losses has been CarMax

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but then again you're dealing with used

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car buyers who are more likely to be

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subprime uh which is bad credit score

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right so overall I have to say like you

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know here we are in April we could

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potentially have another year of no

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recession I'm not saying there won't be

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a recession it's just we keep kicking

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they damn something down the road the

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more we kick it down the road the better

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though because the more we kick it down

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the road the more the cancer of

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inflation is potentially negative and we

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just go back to cranking the money I'm

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not saying that's exactly what we want

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because we don't want to just repeat

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this over and over and over again and

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end up with three waves of inflation

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like the 70s right but I already

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debunked the three waves of inflation

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yesterday you could type into YouTube

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Three waves of inflation me Kevin you'll

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see what but look at this

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this is really fascinating equities on

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average continue to rise after the last

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fed raid hike oh wow that was

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interesting look at that here's the end

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of the hiking cycle that middle line

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right there you get some volatility

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going into it but on average it looks

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like most equities tend to rise slightly

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after the last Fed rate height however

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on average you tend to get a fall on

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average after the first cut now

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obviously I've made the argument many

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times before that the reason the FED is

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would it cut is because the cancer of

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inflation is gone they're not going to

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cut until that happens and in my opinion

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there's a chance the stock market could

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actually see through that uh because

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again once the cancer is gone it's like

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okay yeah we just have to go through a

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little bit of pain and then and then

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we're good again right who knows but

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that has happened before look for

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example at the stock market in 19 in the

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1980 recession which is interesting

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because that came right before the Paul

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volcker but they were raising rate to

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fight inflation without having to go

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Paul volcker level yet and look at what

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happened it's this light blue line right

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here above that red line I just drew

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equities did very well in fact from the

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cut

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to the end of the 1980 cycle stocks went

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up like 25

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however when we got Paul volckerd stocks

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actually went down about I'd say about

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15 and then the average is the red line

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here now the average is actually

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phenomenal the average suggests flat

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so that's weird because everybody's like

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oh my God the First Rate Cut's gonna

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crash the market well not really the

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average is the red line right there and

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it shows flat after the First Rate cut

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but after the pause you actually get

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about a seven to eight percent rally in

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stocks kind of interesting this is

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really interesting data all of this data

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isn't very bearish combine it with PPI

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retail sales CPI uh a PC from last month

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a lot of the data that we're getting

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just is not that terrible now uh this

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was the breadth indicator that we had

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talked about uh and Bank of America is

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basically also reiterating how this is a

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bullish signal basically this was a the

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Bloomberg chart that I shared yesterday

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essentially suggesting that oh this is

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bullish like usually when this indicator

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flips it's very bullish for markets and

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uh the that thrust indicator

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it's left we talked about it yesterday

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Bank of America did a whole piece

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reiterating how bullish it is now I

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didn't want to get blindly you know

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bullish here I feel like I'm already

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bullish enough but I think the the

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argument here is we might still have

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time we might still have a good chunk of

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patience ahead of us before we actually

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hit a recession it might not be as soon

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as June or July it could be a Christmas

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recession or a or a q1 of 24 recession

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and by that point it could be so mild

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because inflation could be so low I mean

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who knows but it'll be very interesting

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to pay attention to and I think now

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we've got a couple good leading

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indicators not only the small business

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leading indicators but personally if you

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want an easy one look for that

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inflection in hotel rooms uh because we

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have not seen that inflection in hotel

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rooms yet so I know it feels nuanced but

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it it very much hits people's sentiment

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when they say or it's an it's evidence

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of people's sentiment changing when they

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stop traveling right and I think that's

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really you know throws back to the Ross

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Gerber argument which is there's no

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recession

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you're looking around at basically what

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people are actually physically doing uh

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so we we like to refer to that as our

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Ross Gerber research where you

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physically go somewhere like yesterday I

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went to Red Robin and I'm like oh my god

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there are a lot of people here and I

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thought this was a charity because they

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lose money anyway uh so that some of my

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thoughts on the recession here uh if if

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get to the next segment

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