I upgraded the Samsung Trifold battery by 71%! - using the HONOR Silicon-Carbon batteries
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Yes. Hello. Honor. A new battery
technology, you say? Wow, that much
better. You want me to put it in what? A
Samsung trifold? Yeah. Yeah, the the new
one. Yeah, I think I can do that. Honor
just told me they have these new silicon
carbon batteries that hold a lot more
than other cell phone batteries, and
they want me to try and add them to the
new Samsung Galaxy Z trifold, which is
this crazy triplefolding phone. as part
of announcing their new battery
technology at Mobile World Congress,
which is the big mobile cell phone trade
show in Spain. And I've taken a look and
I think it might be possible. But
there's one problem. You can't buy one
of these phones in the US yet. They're
only available for sale in Singapore,
UAE, mainland China, and Korea. So, you
know where we're headed next.
>> Okay. So, I've been looking at a tear
down from JerryRig Everything. I think
this is going to work, but it'll be a
little tricky. This is about the size of
one of the batteries, and the other
one's over here. I'm going to have to
remove material from the sides to make
this work. There's cables that pass
through here. I don't know. I'm going to
I'm going to do the best I can. This is
going to be tricky. Like these are
definitely wider than Samsung batteries
and so I'm gonna have to find extra room
on the sides to make this work. A huge
thank you to Honor for sponsoring this
video.
Let's go buy a phone. But first, I need
some cash.
Round one done.
>> The ATMs here have a 3,000 R&B per
withdrawal limit. So, I'm having to do a
whole bunch of transactions.
All right, ready to go to war here. I
mean, shopping.
>> And no, I am not worried. Shenzhen's one
of the safest places I've ever been.
It's one of the advantages having so
many cameras around.
Yeah.
>> Do you have any any of these in stock?
>> Maybe to the last four weeks is the last
>> four four weeks more.
>> Four weeks more.
>> Okay. All right. So, you're not getting
any stock right now?
>> Of course.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Have you gotten any or
only this one?
>> Only that one.
>> All right. Thank you. Okay. Bye-bye.
Totally struck out. It sounds like
they've only gotten that one display
model. Now we go to plan B. What I'm
about to do is why I got all that cash.
Okay.
Yeah. Yeah.
Hello.
Get
>> this done quickly.
Hello. Just take the P. No, take the
place. Okay.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
>> I understand. This is the the
>> day.
>> The date.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah. Okay.
>> I open and then pay the money. But if
it's good, I buy it. I buy it. No
problem.
>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
>> What country is this from? From
Shenzhen.
>> Korea.
>> I'm just being careful.
Maybe you can try this.
>> Oh, great. Yeah.
>> Great. Oh, that's fancy.
>> It's okay. It's good. Yeah. Yeah. Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> Thank you very much.
>> Thank you so much.
>> Okay.
>> Yeah. Bye.
>> Yeah. Happy New Year.
>> Yeah. Thank you.
>> Okay. Bye-bye. Well, that was a total
success. That was easy. I might have
paid over. might have paid a hundred
bucks too much. Didn't quite understand
where it came from, but maybe it came
from China. Somebody's got inventory
somewhere. Man, the markets are so busy.
This feels busier than usual. It's just
a couple weeks before spring festival. I
think everybody's doing their last
little shopping here. I'm going to go
take this thing apart. But first, I need
some tools.
Yeah.
Pango. Uh, let's see. What do I need? I
need
actually don't know.
Um,
I think I just need Phillips. Maybe
start with that.
It's Saturday and Hong's still at home,
but he said he would come over. I think
this is the infamous Tool Brothers
stall. I've known them for like 10 years
now. If you come to Shenzhen, they're
behind the McDonald's on the south side
of Shenan Boulevard. They'll hook you
up. I'll put their booth number in the
uh video description. I'm going to need
glue to put this thing back on. What do
they got?
T700
gravity magic rubber. That sounds good.
Simulate the tastefree. A hint of scent.
I need a metal shim for cracking phones
open. Oh, here. Let's get some spudgers
like this. Hey.
>> Oh. Haha.
The heating screen removal tool.
Perfect.
How? Okay. Yeah. How? Um,
I need one of those fine tools.
I need to open this one.
Okay. Yeah.
Yeah. I think that's it. What else? Hang
on. Let me see what's on my list. Okay.
Um Oh, it's uh
Okay.
Yeah.
Okay. And
Okay.
40 bucks. 30 bucks. 40 bucks. Say city.
Hello, brother.
>> Hello.
>> I know you, brother.
>> You know, from where?
>> Yeah, from YouTube.
>> From YouTube. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
>> So, how how often are you from China?
>> Uh, now like a few times a year.
>> All right, let's take this apart. So, it
works. That looks good. I'm both excited
and really nervous to uh crack open a
$3,000 phone. Sometimes you just got to
do it. I bought a screen removing mat
from Tool Brothers. Basically, it's just
like a hot pad. Here goes nothing.
Oh, I've sliced through it, proper
broken it now. Yeah, I'm going to have
to figure out how to remove this without
doing so much damage. But that's what
this one is for. So, as Bunny Huang
says, who's the the infamous Xbox
hacker, he says, when you're modifying a
device like this, one to break, one to
actually modify, and one to leave intact
as reference. Hi. Boro's in my future
here. Tell if it's a metal or a ceramic.
But watching Jerry Rig Everything's
video, this looked a lot easier to get
into. Oh, it's like a fiberglass or
something. Okay.
This is exciting. I want to know what
these are. Oh, they're screws. Uh-oh. I
bet those relate to the hinge. A huge
shout out to my friends at Troublemaker.
Uh it's a a maker space here in Hatch
Bay. Uh you can check them out. I'll put
a link to them below. They hooked me up
with space here at the last minute to
film this part. Very grateful. I don't
like removing batteries. Oh, that's
thin. How does this fit? Oh, this is Oh.
Oh, I think this is going to work. Okay,
so I can just get this inside these
screws. If I were to take out all of
these screws, I could move these two
halves apart. This is where the end of
the hinge is. I can cut up to those
screws. And that means I cut this side a
little bit, but it'll totally fit like
right up to the screw line. Yeah, width
is the big issue here. Beautiful. I
mean, not beautiful. I've mutilated it,
but yeah, that's not great. So, I need
to be really careful down there or just
not cut there at all.
I mean, it looks like this is just a
whole bunch of metal. Same thing as this
side. Thickness is not going to be an
issue. Let's do the last panel here.
All right, that was better. Go through
and remove 16 million screws.
Cool. Let's get this battery out of
here. I don't know why there are
magnets. Oh, these magnets talk to the
other magnets through the screen. Talk
to the other magnets are attracted to
the other magnets. I'm tired. The other
thing I need to figure out is my battery
situation. So, the battery management
system does a ton of different things.
So, it protects the battery. prevents it
from getting too discharged, too
charged. I think it even does like heat
management, all that good stuff. So,
this up here is going to be the BMS.
What I want to do is swap this part for
the same part over here, but I need the
battery management system to be the
Samsung one, so it knows how to talk to
the Samsung. What I should do is put the
phone back together, put the battery in
it, make sure the phone boots, and then
we can swap them. Let's see if we can
get this to turn on.
Yes. Okay, it boots. So, what I want to
know is if I screw up my battery
transplant, will I know? So, if this is
unplugged, does does it still do that?
Okay. Well, I mean, I guess that's good.
So, this one we're going to try and keep
as long as possible, and then we're
going to cut it as short as possible on
this cell, and then I should be able to
tack them together. So, I need to go buy
a spot welder so that I can swap these.
>> Smoke.
>> No, thank you. I don't smoke this one
>> for batteries.
Yeah. Okay. Okay. This one. Yeah.
Yep. Yep. Just like that. Oh, and this
is the bottom A with Z spot welder. Yep.
I need
this.
>> That's good.
Okay.
Yeah. Zo. Yeah.
>> 215.
About 30 bucks. Oh, and it has a nickel.
Great. And I bet you power it with USBC
and two magnets for I don't know what.
>> Good to go.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. Hold up.
>> Okay.
See you.
One wasn't there, but that was super
easy. So, I think I am good to go. I
guess I just plug this in via USB and uh
be off to the races.
>> All right. We got flush cutters and
my spot welder. Oh, dang it. I ripped
it. Okay,
does say which is which. I might have to
go get a multimeter. Okay, so that is
positive. This is positive. Okay, great.
If that went on like that, then this
goes on like this.
That side is done. Make sure it looks
good electrically.
Yep, we've got continuity up on these
pads here. Should be good to go.
Beautiful. Okay,
the moment of truth. Does it turn on?
Here we go. Oh, it's out of battery, but
that's a good sign. This has been
charging for 10 minutes. Let's check
again.
All right, we're at 21%.
This should boot now.
Yes, this is totally going to work.
Yeah, we're in business. Look at that.
22%. It's charging, baby.
Yes. And I got to figure out how I'm
going to fit everything in here and make
it look good.
Okay, I have one more thing to check to
see if this is possible, and that is the
hinge. I bought a little cheap Dremel
like grinder set here. I'm just gonna
grind into a few things and make sure
the hinges still work.
Okay.
Okay. There it is. Yeah. This is what I
wanted to see. So, this has a cover over
it.
That's the width.
Oh, and I need to go just past the
batteries. Okay, this should work.
I think we're good. It's doable. It's
going to be very, very tight.
Yeah, piece of cake.
No worries. It's a little bit softer,
but
not a big deal. So, the next step is to
make a CAD drawing of this so that I can
properly CNC mill these out. All these
extra spaces for the batteries. So, I
might send this out to be scanned
instead, like I did with the Apple
Watch. That worked pretty well. I think
that's going to work, though. Okay, I
cleaned these up as best I could and uh
I'm headed over to the shippers to ship
them to the 3D scanning service and I
should have 3D drawings back in the next
couple days here.
>> Yeah.
Samsung trifold.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. Okay. Good.
>> Thank you.
I'm over at at uh Hong's booth. So, I
have some carbon fiber openers so that
hopefully I don't scratch the back this
time. Also, I realized I need adhesives
to put it back together. So, I've got a
couple various ones. I've got Huang's
own Schwanho brand.
>> Yeah.
>> And then we have a bunch of applicator
tips.
>> Do you have alcohol IPA?
>> We have too many people use the ching.
>> Jujing. What's ching?
>> What is this?
>> What is it?
>> Yeah. Yeah, that's what I want. We've
got alcohol of unknown variety. Probably
not isopropyl like methanol maybe or
glue. Clean room wipes. These don't
leave any um like strings.
>> Yeah.
>> Yeah, I think that's it. Okay, let's do
this. Okay.
>> Yeah.
>> 89.
>> 89.
>> Yeah. Thank you, Will.
>> Yeah. Thank you.
>> Okay. I'll come back.
>> I'll probably see you like tomorrow or
the next day.
>> Come back for more things.
>> Okay.
>> Okay. See you. Thank you. Bye.
>> He's the best. Absolutely the best.
Should have everything I need. If I
don't, he's just across the street. So,
super convenient.
>> Another day, another phone. I'm going to
try and take this one apart now without
breaking anything. In particular, I
don't want to scratch anything, but I
also don't want to break that screen. I
think I know what I'm doing now. Let's
hope. All right, let's start on this
panel again. I think the same order as
before.
All right, success.
Okay, we're there. There is the screen.
Things are looking up. So, I have an
issue, which is I thought the batteries
were smaller than they actually are, and
I just don't have a lot of extra room.
So, what I want to do is figure out like
this is a bottom speaker. I'm thinking
maybe I need to be able to remove that.
So, I'm going to try removing that. See
if the phone still boots.
And then we're going to pull the speaker
here.
And so, I'm going to leave that out. I'm
going to reattach the screen. There's
that. All right. Let's turn this thing
back on.
That should work. Well, if nothing else,
we should be able to play some video.
Okay.
All right. Off to the races. Yeah. I
just when this was down, I came through
and I just sliced that cable right
there. That cable actually folds over.
Clearly going to have to go buy another
phone to get a working screen out of. I
do have budgeted enough for two more
phones. Well, that was an expensive
lesson. All right, I'm going to tackle
this again tomorrow. I managed to sort
out a more private place to film and
work on this project. Let me make it
look a little bit nicer in here. I
rented a few lights.
That's much better. Let's get into it.
Got my test phone here. I want to swap
out all three batteries for the new
Honor cells. So, let me get those. We're
going to have to swap the um BMS's over
on the two big ones. I've got the little
one already done.
I want the ones without BMS's. That one
is good. Work. All right.
I'm going to get the batteries that I
got from the first phone out and we'll
modify those. So, first step is to
remove the BMS off these and transplant
it over. Now, these are slightly
different. I don't know if the BMS's
care. This is definitely the middle one
and this side. Yeah. So, these unfold
this way here. Try not to short it.
Okay,
that's working. We're in business now.
That'll get you going. May need to redo
that one.
Okay, that went better. Pull this
battery.
Beautiful.
All right.
Come on.
I do have a phone I can test this with.
Actually,
I put it in this phone and this will
help tell whether I fried that BMS or
not. I think we're good to boot. What I
don't know is if this battery is charged
enough.
Let me try putting on charger.
Yep, there we go.
Sweet.
Let's swap in the other three batteries.
This one goes here. This one.
Oh, and this one got broken.
It's not super pretty, but All right.
Phone.
Okay. This is easy to diagnose because I
can just plug back in the original
batteries. Let's see which ones work.
There it is. Okay. So, maybe it's that
middle battery. Okay. This is reading 37
and it's blinking, which maybe mean it's
charging.
I'm going go with that's the charging
indicator. All right. Let's try powering
it off and see if we can get it to power
on with the other battery.
Yeah, it's charging. Hey, hey,
boots.
Sweet. Okay, so I have all three
batteries switched over. This is now on
all honor batteries. That's exciting.
Now I really just have to fit them in
the phone, which is going to be the
harder part, I think. More timeconuming
for sure. But yeah, this is going to
work. I just got to cram it all in now.
I just got the parts back from being 3D
scanned. So, I got to figure out how
this is all going to fit mechanically.
We're going to cut pretty close to this
edge. Since these are bigger, they're
going to have to go down here. So, we're
just going to have to go all the way to
the bottom, all the way up, and then
over as far as we possibly can without
getting in the way of these holes, cuz
that's where the the hinge attaches. I
got to make sure to preserve enough
holes here for the hinge to fit on
there. These
are going in here.
So, this is the board that goes here
with all the cameras on it. And
this guy goes here. So, I think what's
going to happen is we're going to carve
out this section here. This is going to
go underneath. This is going to actually
sit on top of the battery, which means
this section has to get a little bit
thicker. I think that will work. I think
this can just bend up a little bit. That
will sit underneath. Yeah. Makes this a
little bit more complicated
mechanically, but I think it'll work.
So, I'm thinking I need to have some
sort of cover made for this. That is So,
it's replacing this guy here with
something that's like a bit of a box,
like has some space under here. So that
can slide over the top. So So one of the
questions is like what can I carve out
with the CNC mill here? So let's take a
look at the files that came back from
the 3D scanning service. This looks
great. Wow, they really drew everything.
This looks really good. Sweet. Okay. So
now I have full scan
of this
this
and I need to draw in here how to carve
this out. This is what I have designed.
So I've cut out this area here like
cutting this section out here and that
will be where this battery fits in. So
it'll fit in this section here. So,
that's where the battery will go. Yeah,
we'll cut that out on the CNC mill. Let
me do a 3D print of this with the
section cut out. And that way, I don't
have to spend all the time machining
this before I know whether this is going
to work. Let me go do that.
Okay, this is a kind of rough 3D print,
but this is just testing where that Oh,
that's sweet. That's going to be
perfect.
Goes in like that.
But it's going to sit on top here. Let
me get the one that has the right BMS on
it.
So, this goes here. And then this goes
like that. Great. But this now sits too
high. So if I put this cover on, it
doesn't mate there. So I need to make
this cover thicker.
All right. Let me design that
here. All right. So I realized I don't
actually need a box. I just need like a
shim that just goes around the edges.
And then I can use this as like the lid
of my box. So I've got so printed out.
This is the shim here. And the idea
is that it will go like this. And then I
will glue this on top of there. And that
will sit there. And if I do it on my 3D
print actually, I can see how these fit
together. Woohoo. Yes. Yes. Okay, this
looks great. Actually, Chinese New Year
is in just a few days and everything is
starting to shut down. The markets,
stores, restaurants, ATM machines are
running out of cash. I got to get out of
here before I can't get anything done.
So, I'm going to head home to my
workshop to finish this up.
All right, back in the shop and ready to
mill out these phones. Finish this up
for real. I'm going to make some
fixtures to hold them on the Carva mill
and then I'll start milling out the
middle here. All right, I've got a 3D
printed stock here. This is the scan,
the unmodified scan.
Okay, that looked pretty good. I
probably should have stopped it a little
bit sooner. just to avoid milling out
the bottom. Uh let's do a test fit up
just to make sure everything fits like
it should. Okay, so
looking at this here. Oh yeah, this is
just with the stock BMS, but looks
great. I feel like I should
procrastinate and not do this, but I
think I'm just going to jump into it.
It's looking good.
Whoops. Broke a bit. Not quite sure how.
I just think it's enough little pieces
flying flopping around as I'm doing
this. So, I'm not going to change
anything right now. I'm just going to
keep going, I think.
Well, that is not optimal. I don't know.
Maybe I need better support or
something. I don't know. Well, I've got
more tooling, so I'm just going to keep
feeding it tools, I think.
Well, despite the broken tools, that
went pretty well.
It's looking good. So, two little
touch-ups there, but that went quite
well all considering.
All right,
that took a lot of finishing passes. Oh
my god, I didn't even mill this
aluminum, but it just deforms
like foil.
But I think this is going to be my
ticket. Fits pretty darn well. I'll take
it. Tomorrow I'll make two more of these
now that I know kind of what I'm doing
and mill the other two out. Another day,
another thing to mill. All right, let's
load this up and see how it goes.
Look at that magnet picking up all the
steel and
neodyinium. This is going well.
Surprisingly well.
That looks great. This is really coming
out well. I'm going to clean this up a
little bit under the microscope. For
now, I'm going to get to milling that
third section. Third and final section
on the right. I did the test milling. It
looks okay. And uh we'll do it for real.
Fingers crossed.
Third one is done. That inside edge
there is pretty sweet. I think the next
thing is to do a test fitting here uh
over on my electronics bench. So, let's
see how these batteries fit.
This and then this one. That's looking
pretty good. And then this one.
Perfect. The next thing I want to do is
I want to put the hinges back in here
and see how that all fits together.
Moment of truth. It folds.
Okay, so this goes first and then that
one folds. We're getting there. Got to
get this battery to fit. So, I got to
cut a section out of the hinge. Can I
mark that?
Take that hinge back out.
Remove these screws and see what's going
on with this hinge. Section we need to
remove is right here.
Oh my god, look at that.
That is crazy. Well, I definitely need
to just cut the plastic here, I think.
There we go.
Oh, that doesn't have a spring in it.
We'll see. Oh, no. Yeah, this is just
floppy.
Okay, this is rubbing.
Yeah, that hinge is not working so well
anymore.
That's a problem.
I mean, it still folds. I think we just
forge ahead. Onward. This is the still
intact phone. I am going to take this
apart. Try not to break it. Reassemble
it with the honor batteries.
super tight.
Okay,
batteries are out. I need to take this
screen off, put it on the modified
phone, move the batteries over, and
button things up. I have 30 minutes
before I need to leave for the airport.
There it is.
I'm not going to with it anymore.
We're just going to assemble it now
for all the marbles.
Thank god. All right, moment of truth.
Oh,
sort of.
I don't understand what's happening with
these screens. I don't get it. But it it
works. It turns on. What the hell? Why
are these screens so damn fragile? I
thought I did a good job on that one.
All right, it's booting. We're just
going to button this up. Goes here.
It's done. It fits.
And I have 15 minutes to get the hell
out of here. There it is.
Just put a little bit of tape to hold
that in place.
And then we will worry about gluing it
later.
Not too bad. I'll see you in Barcelona.
Welcome to Barcelona to Mobile World
Congress, one of the largest trade shows
for mobile phones. This phone now has
71% more battery capacity. The volume of
the batteries is definitely larger, but
if they were the exact same size as the
original batteries, they would have 38%
more capacity. Silicon carbon batteries
are clearly the way of the future, and
Honor is the clear leader in this space
with the newlyannounced highest silicon
content at 32% silicon. But what's
different about these batteries and why
does it matter? To be clear, these are
still lithium ion batteries, but with an
important twist. Lithium ion batteries
are limited by the amount of lithium
that can bind to the graphite anodess,
which is one of the two electrodes.
There's an anode and a cathode in a
battery. Silicon can hold way more than
graphite without increasing the size of
the weight of the battery. It can store
10 times more lithium than graphite.
Now, the obvious question is, why
wouldn't you go to 100% silicone?
There's a problem. Silicon expands a lot
when charged, which causes the battery
to swell and it introduces really
intense mechanical stress which
destabilizes the electrode structure and
causes it to break apart. So, you have
to do something to mitigate that. One of
the big ways is by adding carbon which
stabilizes the whole structure. Now,
Honor is using chemical vapor deposition
to get tiny spheres of silicon that are
nearly perfectly round. And that means
that when the the silicon expands, it
expands uniformly, which helps the the
structure as well. The batteries that I
use actually have 25% silicon, which is
an industry first. Competitors are at
like 16%. However, this new Honor
silicon carbon blade battery, which
they're putting into the Chinese version
of the Magic V6 phone, has a whopping
32% carbon. The overseas version is the
the version that I use with the 25%
carbon. The Magic V6 battery for the
overseas version are 921 watt hours per
liter, which is a new metric for me, but
it basically is how dense are the
batteries. The China version is 985 W
hours per liter. Most high-end lithium
ion batteries are in the range of like
700 W hours per liter. Honor has also
improved the puncture resistance of
their batteries by 40%. Also they have
the first cathode material to reach 4.75
volts which again further increases the
amount that the battery can store. They
also have greater stability under high
temperatures which obviously super
important. Now why does any of this
matter? The battery is the single
largest component in phones. Phones are
continually getting more energy hungry,
particularly with ondevice AI. And
companies are always trying to shrink
down the other components of the phone
to make more space for the battery. But
as a consumer, I want a slim, small
phone that fits in my pocket. I'm sure
you do, too. Simply said, battery
capacity is hard to increase. It really
hasn't increased that much over say the
past 10 years. So, making an increase
this big, 38%,
it's pretty incredible. Now, there's
lots of other really interesting battery
chemistry. Lithium ion isn't the only
game in town, but most of those battery
chemistries are still really
experimental or they have significant
problems that prevent them from being
productionized into consumer
electronics. And so, honor
productionizing silicon carbon batteries
and actually putting it in a shipping
phone that lasts a long time is really
hard. I'm I'm just super impressed. I'm
very thankful that they sponsored this
video. This has been a super fun project
and it's really cool to be on the
bleeding edge of smartphone technology
and get to be one of the first people to
get hands-on with it. Speaking of which,
they have a bunch of really cool stuff
here to show off at Mobile World of
Congress. They have a robot phone that
has a multi-axis camera gimbal built
into it that unfolds from the back of
the phone. Super cool. and then a
bipeedal robot that's been walking
around as well as the Magic V6, which is
the world's thinnest folding phone. It's
a two-part phone folded up, it's thinner
than my iPhone 16 Pro Max. Actually, I'm
really interested to try carrying on a
day-to-day basis. Like, I could see
myself using this phone. If you want to
learn more, go to honor.com and I'll see
you again soon. And if you see me here
at Mobile World Congress, come say hi.
I'll talk to you soon.
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