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Why the Rich secretly LOVE Mamdani for Mayor.

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The coverage this Mombi guy has been

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getting is crazy. Look at this. Boca

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Ratan mayor trying to lure people away.

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Apparently, people are freaking out

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because there's talk about him uh

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wanting to tax richer and whiter

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neighborhoods more and suggesting that

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billionaires shouldn't exist. A lot of

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people actually agree with that, that

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billionaires shouldn't exist. Carolyn

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Levit this morning said misqued him and

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said that wealthy people shouldn't exist

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is what he said, but he actually said

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billionaires shouldn't exist. So, this

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there's a little bit of madness going on

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on both sides, but that's that's pretty

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common. Uh, it does look like you've

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also got President Trump warning that

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federal funding for New York could be at

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risk if he wins, that he's a communist.

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And I think that's very bad for New

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York. And now other people are calling

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him the Fidel Castro of New York. And uh

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yeah, Boca Raton says, "Move to Boca

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Raton, the mayor, because uh we won't

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tax you like Mom Dami will."

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Interesting. But we've got more to talk

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about with Mom Dami. Last week, we

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talked about Mom Damiy's interest in

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freezing rent. And we talked about how

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ironically when you freeze rent, you

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actually constrict the level of housing

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that's available because well rent

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freezes often apply to larger

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multifamily properties. So you

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disincentivize building vertically and

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turning duplexes into like 10unit

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apartment buildings and adding supply to

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Manhattan or Brooklyn real estate. So

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what ends up happening is prices go up

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over time. Last week, we in our video

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showed how an over supply of new homes

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in Austin, Texas led prices to come down

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and rents to come down, whereas

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Democratic policies that constricted

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supply led rents and prices to go up.

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So this is where the economist looks at

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what Mami says and what the likely

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results are going to be and sees the

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problem that Mamiy's policies are likely

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to make housing more unaffordable.

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Which ironically a lot of people like

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Mombi because they're like, "Oh well, if

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Wall Street doesn't like him or rich

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people don't like him, then he's my

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guy." But the irony is rich people who

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already own real estate in Manhattan

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benefit from someone like mom dami

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because you're going to build fewer

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homes making the existing stuff more

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valuable. So the existing owners,

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imagine this, the existing rich get

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richer under a mom dummy.

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The new people trying to get in get

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screwed and you stay a forever tenant.

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You know, this is why people like what

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happened in Austin where, you know,

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prices became more affordable again.

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More affordable, not as affordable as it

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used to be, uh, but prices came down

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because we built more, right? Okay, this

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is important when you're thinking about

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investing and understanding real estate,

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the economics of this. But now, this is

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a new piece here out from the uh, Wall

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Street Journal financial analysis and

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uh, commentary section. Uh, it says rent

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freeze to chill office conversions. All

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right, this is a big deal. So commercial

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real estate market has really slowed

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down in most cities because banks have

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lost a lot of money on commercial

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mortgage back securities. Uh and that's

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because postcoid fewer people work in

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the office. We have hybrid work

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environments and offices are just less

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desirable. A lot of offices in Manhattan

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are from the 60s which are really hard

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to turn into residences. So you see a

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lot of 1920s offices get converted into

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residences. A lot of the ' 60s buildings

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probably have to be rebuilt because of

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how they're designed. Think about like

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those, you know, think like 1960s

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cubicle office. Okay, that's kind of

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what you have to think about. Uh and

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yeah, here's here's kind of I mean this

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is an extreme kind of like picture here.

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Uh, but think more more like this where

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if you you have windows along the

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outside which makes it really hard to

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make apartment buildings because what a

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lot of them try to do is they actually

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try to core out the center of the

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building and then you have windows in

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the middle and then you can make

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apartments all the way around. But

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there's a lot of work involved in that.

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You know, trying to convert one of these

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sort of floors, these 1960s style

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buildings from these cubicle office

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disasters into a functional building is

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for residences is hard. The 1920

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buildings weren't that bad. We've looked

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into a lot of this stuff with my real

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estate startup. How I know a little bit

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about it. But anyway, uh I thought this

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interesting. This piece was very

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interesting. Rent freeze to chill office

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conversions. Basically a way of saying

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like, hey, if there's a threat of an

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office freeze, people might not hire

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architects to try to redesign these

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buildings because why spend the money if

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it's just not going to be profitable to

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do it? And so you'll just have more

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abandoned offices and once again fewer

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homes. turning Manhattan's unloved

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offices into apartments is becoming a

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profitable venture. True. And we want

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people to make money because it means

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they're providing a service that people

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are willing to pay for, right? Like you

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don't like if if somebody told you, hey,

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you know,

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go build that fireplace for your

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neighbor and we'll buy you a meal and be

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like, bro, I'm going to need more than a

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meal. Like I I I can subsist off the

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meal, but like I need to be in business

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to make a reasonable profit. Doesn't

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have to be an excessive profit. the

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reasonable profit, right? So, the

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potential unlocks a new source of supply

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for New York's housing market, right?

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So, like firms come in, they convert

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office projects to uh essentially

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apartment buildings. This makes sense.

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Uh okay. So, then what we have is in

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theory this uh MAMI's rent freeze should

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not affect office conversions because

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these are new units coming to the

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market. However, the conversions

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typically take advantage of a tax

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incentive that gives them a 90%

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tax break exemption for up to 35 years.

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This is something that we noticed as

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well when we were looking at investing

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in Brooklyn is that if you add units or

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there have been plenty of other

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circumstances, you might get tax

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abatements that lower your taxes if you

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invest in the area to provide rental

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property to people. So, this is a really

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big thing that that boosts cap rates in

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the areas. However, to qualify, 25% of

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the apartments in the conversion have to

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be rent stabilized, but rent increases

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on those apartments are decided by the

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city's rent guidelines board. The

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mayoral election is obviously still way

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off, but if these get hit by the rent

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freeze, they could end up stalling the

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office conversion market because people

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aren't sure that they would get their

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tax breaks. around 16% of New York's

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office is empty uh office space. That's

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crazy. So that's like one in six office

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units are just vacant right now. Only

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1.4% of the apartments are empty,

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showing a really big shortage, right?

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Turning those old workplaces into homes

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is starting to make more financial sense

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because of that difference. Big reason

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is owners of distressed offices are

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getting more realistic about what the

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buildings are worth. So they're selling

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them for 20 to 30 cents on the dollar.

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These discounts make the math work on

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conversions.

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Makes sense to compensate for the loss

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of office values. Uh we yeah ended up

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getting I mean sometimes discounts as

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much as 50% now. Well larger well I

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guess 20 to 30% on the dollar would be

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potentially as much as 70 to 80%.

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Uh offices are also about 56% cheaper on

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average right now per square foot

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compared to multif family. This makes

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sense because an office per square foot

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is usually just well like blank cubicle

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space. Each square footage relative is

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ever relatively the same. Whereas in a

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house, you know, you have a kitchen, you

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have landscaping, entertaining rooms.

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The rooms are much more complex than

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what you have in an office. So it makes

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sense that home uh square footage is

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usually more expensive. New York City

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has a high share of offices that are

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ideal candidates for conversion. 19.5%

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of the total stock is feasible for

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conversion compared to just 4.6%

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nationwide. This is because a lot of the

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city's office stock is close to

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well-located transit hubs. In other

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words, it would be great to keep

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converting these empty office buildings

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to functional places people can live.

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But again, if somebody like Mami kind of

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puts a wedge in this, you or like what

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what do we call it? a gear and a wrench

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in the gears, then uh then again you're

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making houses more unaffordable because

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you're not bringing this supply to the

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market, which again benefits the

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existing rich people who already own.

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Now you're not benefiting the rich

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people who are doing the conversions

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because they're just like, "All right,

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I'll go invest somewhere else, but the

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people who are already rich who already

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owners, they benefit."

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Developers also need to uh carefully

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reconfigure the layouts to maximize

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rents. It's a bit like the Rubik's cube.

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Yeah, we know that. Uh the attraction of

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conversion is that they can be done much

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faster than building from scratch,

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usually in 18 months compared to 3 years

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to build for new. That creates lower

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risk for investors to provide housing.

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Here's how rent freezes could complicate

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things. Developers currently pick up old

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offices for around $300 a square foot

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and spend another $450 on conversions.

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Works out to about $750 in total costs.

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They could sell for about $1,000 per

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square foot. A rent freeze of 25% on the

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units would make it much harder to flip

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these converted apartment buildings to

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investors who would then hold them for

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the longer term. Yeah. Right. That's

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because usually what happens is the

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builder doesn't hold it. Usually the

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builder sells it to an investor who's

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then going to rent it out. Uh and if you

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have a rent freeze, the builder can't

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sell it for enough uh to actually profit

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on the build. So they just don't do it

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because the investor's like, "Nah, bro.

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I'm, you know, rent freeze, bro. I'm not

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going to be able to actually get what I

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need for these units. And so, you just

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don't build it. It's interesting. It

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adds another sort of wrinkle to the M

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dami equation. You know, one thing you

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find with people like Mammi is they say

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things that are really popular because

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they're essentially a style of populist.

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Yeah. And and I always get concerned

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like

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is M dami like there there are two

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options. Does M dami not understand

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basic economics? in which case he's just

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dumb in economics. You know, he could be

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socially smart but dumb in economics.

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Or does he understand that his economic

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policies are dumb, but he doesn't care

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because he thinks other people are

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dumber and they're going to vote for his

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dumb policies so he could get into

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office. That would make him not dumb, it

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would make him evil.

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So, I guess there's that risk, too. Why

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not advertise these things that you told

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us here? I feel like nobody else knows

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about this. We'll we'll try a little

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advertising and see how it goes.

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Congratulations, man. You have done so

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much. People love you. People look up to

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you. Kevin Praath there, financial

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analyst and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always

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great to get your take.

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