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holy smokes you won't believe what the
Federal Reserve just said and forecast
about when inflation is going to go back
to two percent what the lagged effects
are going to be where the most pain is
going to be and how that could lead to a
recession and more this is a good piece
and there's a lot to talk about on this
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fed the Chicago fed just released this
particular letter right here and they
talk about the past and future effects
of recent monetary policy tightening
what's really fascinating about this is
well mostly we're not going to read all
of it because well that just there's a
little too much econ in this one and as
much as I love econ let's just say
there's a limit so we're going to start
with a little abstract and then we're
gonna go to the conclusion and we'll
look at a few charts okay so let's start
here and and the conclusion is actually
pretty wild now it's not to say that Jay
Powell is going to listen to this 100
but let's think about it a little bit
because there are some big things that
they say about inflation here so we
estimate how much of the impact from the
fed's current tightening cycle is yet to
be felt in the economy in both absolute
relative terms to do this we use some
fancy models which uh they explain the
models later but basically they use some
amazing some fancy stuff and they
estimate that the majority of the
effects of output and inflation or on an
output and inflation that higher
interest rates have had in other words
the lag they suggest which keep in mind
the Bears are telling us that because of
the lag defects of the fed's hiking
policy we're screwed like it's going to
take 18 months for you to feel all the
effects maybe some say that because of
the clear communication of the Federal
Reserve now we might actually start
feeling these effects much more quickly
and based on this piece by the Chicago
fed they suggest that the majority of
the these lag defects of monetary policy
titing have already occurred and that
policy and they'll go through exactly
what percent they think in just a moment
but it's about 75 percent that they
think has already occurred and there's
some important implications for that
they think that the policy tightening
that has been implemented will how
however continue to exert further
restraint in the quarters ahead
amounting to downward pressure of three
percentage points on the level of GDP
and two and a half percentage points on
the level of CPI tightening effects on
the labor market manifest more slowly so
more than half of the policy impact on
total total hours worked is yet to come
now that's actually interesting because
it feeds into the leftover part that the
Bears do talk about the Bears say hey
look it is actually the jobs Market that
is really where the pain can begin in
this recession that we may be going into
the reason people believe that is
because recessions can really start for
a few different reasons they could begin
from cyclical cyclical reasons they
could begin from uh industry reasons but
what this uh impact is is potentially
likely to be from uh that is through
this cycle is from an impo oh yeah okay
I just want to make sure the bike is
right I thought the bike was on my
airpods for a momentum like as much as I
like listening to myself on these things
I hate listening to myself but uh
they're functional for that but uh or if
I have to put somebody you know another
interview on or something like that boy
oh boy in terms of speaking through
these things the audio is crap so anyway
so this type of recession what people
believe uh is that we would actually
begin the recession by having pain in
the jobs Market paying in the jobs
Market would then lead to lower spend
lower spend would then lead to lower
earnings per share at companies and
obviously less output and then
potentially thereby layoffs and then you
have this cycle of pain right where you
get pain in the jobs Market lower spend
paying the companies more pain in the
jobs Market you basically have this
self-fulfilling disaster
and the risky thing here about the
Chicago letter is they say look we felt
75 of the tightening on GDP on CPI
already but only 25 or sorry only 50 of
the pain on labor well I guess they say
technically here so more than half of
the policy in yeah I guess that's
actually a little less than 50 see more
than half of the impact on labor Is Yet
To Come according to the model's
forecast the policy tightening that's
already been done is sufficient to bring
inflation
back near the fed's Target by the middle
of 2024 while avoiding a recession now
that's really interesting they're
basically saying look the FED has to do
no more and we can avoid a recession as
long as the FED essentially stops hiking
because there is still a very large lag
effect on labor the effects on CPI and
GDP are already functioning well now
let's go jump to the end and we'll look
at some of the charts here so if we go
to the end over here we look at their
conclusion they suggest here that they
rely on expectations of monetary policy
and so this is their argument a little
bit more of a forward-looking model
expectations are pretty important in
fact there's a strong argument that the
entire reason the Federal Reserve is
actually suggesting that there might be
one more hike is because they're not
trying to Signal they're done here's the
problem once they signal they're done as
soon as the bed says we're done what do
you do you license locking in higher
yields on the 10-year treasury or even
the 20 year right the longer end of the
Curve
once you license locking in the longer
end of the curve which is a fancy way of
saying it just basically saying 10 20 30
year bonds right once you give people a
license to buy those in other words hey
we've reached Peak yields go ahead and
buy the long bonds something really
incredible happens once you do that
guess what happens
once once you let people buy these you
let people buy these then what ends up
happening demand goes up for long bonds
like the longer term bonds I should say
not being bullish bonds but the longer
term bonds when demand goes up for the
longer term bonds what ends up happening
uh yields fall uh on on these longer
term bonds right and that what does that
actually end up doing it loosens uh
Financial conditions so the problem with
that is the Federal Reserve is trying to
put pressure on markets by having higher
yields 10 20 30 year mortgage yields
which are mortgage rates which tend to
follow the 10-year treasury you need
these yields higher so you could have
this broader tightening of the economy
that's what the FED wants they want this
tithing as soon as you say the peak is
in you say to people buy it and you can
now lock in these longer term bonds
without the risk that values these bonds
is going to or are going to continue to
fall which right now they kind of have
continued to fall I mean consider what
we've got on the 10-year you had Bill
Ackman short the tech basically the tens
right around two point or 4.2 uh we're
at 4.27 right now in terms of yields
which actually means he's up because the
inverse relationship we recently went uh
a little we went down a little bit we've
been up a little bit we had all this
giant roller coaster here I personally
think they need to go down from here
that's why I'm a long TMF uh which might
be a little early but that's because I
think we're we're within one hike of
being done which I think creates this
interesting opportunity to maybe go long
TMF uh which is essentially a a
leveraged ETF for going long the uh the
long end of the treasury curve like the
10 20 30s and uh it and as soon as the
FED does admit we're done TMF should do
very well but we have to wait for that
moment so anyway uh they're they're
arguing that they use their policy here
or or their models to try to understand
what's going on with expectations a
shift in policy making over time that
puts more emphasis on the expected
policy path such as a heavier Reliance
on explicit forward guidance may have
made the expectations Channel more
important and thus shortened the
apparent lags of transmission this is
important and it's not to say that like
oh this time is different but one thing
that factually because again you could
totally still be walking into a
recession right it's worth knowing them
but one thing that is dramatically
different in this cycle compared to the
Past Federal Reserve tightening Cycles
is that the FED is much more what is APM
f i see the comments ATM it's just
ticker TMF ticker TMF just type that in
you'll learn more about it go read the
perspectives anyway uh so in past
tightening Cycles from the Federal
Reserve
you didn't actually have this extremely
clear guidance of what was to come uh in
terms of hey we're going to uh hike
until we believe that expectations are
set to bring us back to an average of
two percent inflation uh and they're
very clear in fact pretty much every
single time they've hiked for the last
you know year and a half they're like we
probably have to do more you know here's
our estimate but we probably have to do
more and some actually argue the fact
that the FED has told us so aggressively
we have to do more is why the yield
curve is so inverted now people get mad
at me when I say this they're like well
Kevin Kevin don't don't explain away the
yield curve okay the yield curve is
basically always right especially when
it's this inverted uh that's true when
when you just look at the yield curve in
general there has been uh you know there
have been like you look at 1998 you sort
of had a false inversion uh you know
people will say like oh but that was you
know really close to the.com Bubble
possibly you look at 1994 you almost had
an inversion so they've been some cases
where it's like it's not a hundred
percent perfect in in a very quick term
uh but yeah otherwise I mean short of
short of these these little asterisks
let's just be very clear about it
anytime you have an inversion that's
this deep you've had a recession okay
there's there's no mincing it here you
get a recession after you're this
inverted the one way that people try to
explain this yield curve being
disinverted though is I want you to
think about this and it's kind of a
little bit of a wild thing to think
about but if let's put it this way okay
if somebody came to you uh and said uh
so if someone someone said hey uh yields
are going up
for the next two years which is roughly
what the FED has been suggesting is that
it's going to take until 2025 to get rid
of this inflation if somebody said that
then you probably would have substantial
risk uh in two-year treasuries right in
shorter term treasuries why would you
buy uh a two-year treasury which what's
a two-year treasure yielding right now
let me see to your treasury the two-year
treasury right now is at five percent
four nine nine seven okay okay why would
you buy a two-year treasury watch this
two-year treasury what does that get you
five percent yield you're like oh well
Kevin of course I'm gonna buy that for a
five percent yield no you don't buy the
two-year treasury for a five-year yield
you know what you do for a five-year
yield you get a money market and then
you get your five percent yield guess
what the money market no risk of higher
for longer because basically Cash
There's No risk of your bond losing
value because the fed's going up higher
so in other words what happens less
people buy the two-year now the 10-year
is a little different the 10 year plus
is a little different that's 20 or 30
year right because you're like look I
can get through the next two years and
then have Juiced Returns on 10 20
30-year bonds for a long time I mean
consider the 10 year right now is 4.27
that is you buy it right now you can get
4.27 uh you know for the next 10
freaking years it's amazing you look at
the 20-year uh oh this is this is just
so wonky you ready for the 10 or the 20
year
4.55 percent right now and then let's
look at the 30 year
30 year 30 year right now uh that's the
30-year mortgage 30-year treasury okay
30-year right now
4.36 percent so again point is you want
to lock in these higher yields for a
very long term you go by the longer end
of the curve because eventually you
expect eventually the fed's going to cut
rates and when they cut rates what
happens these long bonds become more
valuable so in other words when cut
uh 10 20 30 become much more valuable
and then yields fall right but the
two-year well it might take two years to
get those cuts
so you're not guaranteed well guaranteed
with an asterisk that capital
appreciation so what does that do
so more people buy the long bonds than
the short bonds okay well what does that
cause an inverted yield curve
kind of crazy so uh that's that's at
least uh my thinking because you have
again more buying on the 10 20 30. what
happens when more people buy the 10 20
30. yield goes down price up yield down
so the long bonds yielding less because
they're more desirable for that
long-term investment the capital
appreciation you could get through the
feds to your hiking cycle expectations
are literally manipulating the yield
curve in exactly the way you would
expect like ignore ignore the potential
for a recession for a moment and I'm not
saying like put your blinders on oh
there will be recession just think for a
moment let's just say some like Jesus
Christ came down and said there will be
no recession
thank you God right okay okay
why then would the yield curve be
inverted well because at the same time
basically you know the econ Jesus Christ
is coming down and going by the 10 20 30
year bonds don't buy the two-year buy
money markets instead so like in simple
English that that factor right there
would literally give you the inverted
yield curve which is weird because
people are like but wait the yield curve
is supposed to say recession but again
if Jesus Christ came down said no
recession you would still have this
inverted yield curve because of
what I just described which is kind of
crazy because again a lot of people
it's definitely signaling your session
yes maybe it is maybe that the the
lagging pain in jobs is going to drive
us into recession it's entirely possible
uh let's keep going though because they
do talk about when they think uh
inflation will be over so okay here we
go
their their latest data now about when
inflation will come down you ready for
this this is based on their survey this
is a good one too the surveys whatever
models suggest that the effects of past
tightening on inflation have almost run
their course however
however skipping the econ talk here
headline CPI inflation will fall below
2.3 percent in 2024.
this 2.3 percent rate of CPI inflation
historically translates to around two
percent of inflation according to pce
suggesting the fomc's target would be
approximately met by the middle of 2024.
the abatement of inflation occurs then
without a recession as real GDP growth
remains in positive territory throughout
the projection although the model does
not forecast the significant slowdown in
hours worked as a result the model
predicts that three-month t-bill rates
should be unchanged for the rest of the
year before gradually declining in 2024
this is that higher for longer thing
where it's like get that gradual decline
right unlike the counterfactual exercise
shown in figure two these forecasts do
not isolate the effects of monetary
policy however it is important to note
that there are white uncertainty bands
around the forecast whatever that's
basically a fancy way saying look at our
uncertainty bands okay so this is where
they're like okay is a recession
possible yes but look at where the
uncertainty bands say it's possible
basically the end to beginning of 2024
but that would only be that tiny little
segment right there so yeah that chance
is still there but it seems like we
should be at a positive real rate of one
to two percent over the next two years
yes we know the Atlanta fed now real GDP
has is at like 5.6 but we don't even
need that we just need to be below Trend
which you know if if trend is like right
there you know two and a half percent
GDP we just want to be below that that's
the fed's goal and then here's their
projection for headline inflation which
suggests by the beginning of 2025 yes
maybe inflation could be as high as say
2.4 or quite frankly as low as you know
1.1 percent probably be right around two
percent is is their projection look at
some of the other bands right here
cumulative effects on hours worked you
can see most of the pain for that jobs
effect and these are very small
percentages mind you most of that pain
really expected to be over here 24 25
there's your lag defect you've got uh
you know some other charts you can kind
of look at here these are these are less
important when I went through this the
first time uh but I did think this was
interesting look at where they expect
rates to actually start falling you
ready for this
basically November that's where they
think you're you hit your Peak and then
from there it's basically falling rates
all of 2024. guess what that's going to
be really good for falling rates in
2024. okay you ready for this this is
going to piss a lot of people off again
it's gonna be really good for those
cyclical interest rate sensitive sectors
gee I wonder what some of those might
sound like how about
Tesla and phase and some of the other
delicious interest rate sensitive
companies guess what companies that's
bad for how about those Staples like
Dollar General Dollar Tree Hershey's
Kellogg Walgreens Paramount
Pfizer oh how interesting all of those I
just read off have hit new 52-week lows
at some point today how interesting
that's kind of what we were expecting
would happen at the beginning of the
year now one I will be wrong about I I
will I will say has not hit that damage
yet is quite frankly and I'm a little
like I'm still pissed off about it
because I think it's still coming
McDonald's I think McDonald's is
literally overvalued trash right now
absolutely literally overvalued trash
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anyway McDonald's it's overpriced trash
uh I'm sorry it's just it's just my
opinion and I think their stock needs to
come down substantially I think that
you're going to deal with like the one
place you're going to deal with the real
pain of the leftover effects of
inflation are going to be the fact that
you're starting to see at restaurants
people finally start pulling back one of
the things the beige book told us
yesterday is that people were starting
to pull back on restaurant spend that
restaurant spend was was flattening and
basically every kind of eating out was
was slowing down and flattening uh and
uh on top of this idea of restaurants
Ben flattening you have higher food
costs you have you have wages that still
are playing catch up right and I don't
think that actually ends up leading to
any kind of you know wage price spiral
that we've totally missed a wage price
spiral in the cycle but it does lead to
pain for companies like McDonald's but
let's just look at McDonald's for a hot
minute here okay so if I look look at
McDonald's for a hot minute what I'm
gonna do is I'm going to look at the
valuation of this company it's probably
going to piss me off it's been a while
since I've looked at it but you know
what we should be real and go look at it
for a month so what do we got here so
McDonald's is looking at generating
11.54 of eps the sucker's trading for
275.44 divided by 11.54 that puts you at
a 23.86 peg okay 86 those patties
McDonald's you guys are about to get
screwed it's just my take I could be
wrong uh but anyway that means for
McDonald's
23.86 okay and we're going to save that
and what we're going to do is we're
gonna go we're going to look at the
growth rate that's for the end of this
year growth rate going forward 7.8 8.6
10.3 12.5 I think it'll be less but
whatever that puts you at 39.2 uh as a
as growth over the next four years
divided by four nine point eight percent
uh average growth expected compounded
annual for the next four years okay
23.86 divided by 9.8 that's putting me
at 2.4 Peg paying a 2-4 Peg for
McDonald's
why it's because it's seen as an
inflationary safety play people still
see it as a play that suggests a world
of inflation's high people are gonna not
be able to buy miso Sham in a cheesecake
and they're gonna have to forego on that
beautiful sweet brown bread which is
just molasses dyed white bread and
they're gonna end up having to suffer
McDonald's
so it's some institutional hedge okay
this is in contrast to a company that
actually grows uh and that's going to be
a company like Tesla which Wall Street
expects to grow uh somewhere around you
know 20 29 per year I think that
estimate quite frankly is on the low
side but whatever it's in contrast to a
company like this or a company uh like
uh like a uh like an end phase which is
basically selling in like Value World I
mean look at you really want a true
comparison you look at you want to know
the cheap ones right now the cheap ones
right now
on a PEG ratio basis that are actually
growing companies that matter that
aren't just inflation Hedges uh that are
companies that benefit from interest
rates going down the the list of the
cheapest ones simple okay so I'm going
to sort this I have a thing called the
kpeg it's basically the Kevin's adjusted
growth rate and then the peg we talk
about it in the course member live
streams anyway the cheap ones uh end
phase ubiquity TSM all of them under one
with a kpeg uh actually mostly right
around one with a regular PEG ratio as
well
Etsy PayPal ERJ AMD uh surprisingly
actually Nvidia meta Disney although
Disney you have to be careful about all
of those under 1.5
Tesla's like a two you know but but
that's that's also being generous with
you know well I should say conservative
with the growth 30 to 35 but McDonald's
just ripoff man anyway so I think it'll
suffer just like the rest of these
suckers uh that we've expected that the
Staples will end up suffering again the
reason people are in the Staples is
because they see these suckers as an
inflation hedge and uh the days are
numbered again
have done well here's the chart of
McDonald's they've done very very well
it's very upsetting to me because it
means I was wrong but I'll be right
eventually
so anywho uh oh Starbucks that's a
really good question so you know I
actually the thing about Starbucks is I
find that they're expensive uh over
eighty dollars they're at 95 bucks I've
actually personally been waiting for
Starbucks to come into like the 80 price
range but the reason I was excited about
Starbucks going into the 80 price range
was because I thought I would be able to
pick up a good deal on Starbucks uh
around 80 bucks and then have cheap
exposure to China because Starbucks like
covertly doubled their restaurants their
stores right their coffee shops in uh in
China during the pandemic like nobody
paid attention to this and they just
like overnight it feels like doubled
their stores in China problem is now
China is basically in the dumps so you
know that that is now less desirable
even less desirable which is not great
because it's kind of like wait a minute
crap that's what you wanted uh you know
Chipotle I will say they have managed to
really hold up I think I'm not going to
invest in them because I still think you
have some like a staple exposure here
but they have the growth they really
have the growth uh you look at their
growth rate you're projecting a growth
rate at this company uh
21.6 over the next few years which is
really really incredible uh if I take
their EPS 1954 let's see here
1954 projected Wall Street EPS uh my
numb lock turned off what is going on ah
Kevin there we go 1954-12 divided by 43
38 uh divided by 21 but she had 2.1 so
still still a little up there you know
I'm okay like up to a two I think things
get sticky like apple ran up to a three
for a while there and I think they're
actually still around like two eight
it's too expensive that's why I had to I
had to reduce my exposure to Apple it
just got way too like once these numbers
these pegs get too high I'm like yeah no
thanks paying way too much money for
growth but then I also have to figure
out what industry they're in and what
potential for more growth there is after
that so anyway thanks so much for
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