BEWARE: The Coming, Huge AI Stock Crash.
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AI stocks will crash in this video I'm
going to explain exactly what is going
to crash what that's going to mean for
the prices of stocks and we'll
specifically touch on Nvidia super micro
computer and we'll apply this to the
broader industry of where opportunities
could be I want to be very clear upfront
I am invested in ships and ship making
Technologies both personally and through
an actively managed ETF that I run now
in this video I'm going to make some
very clear concern concs known to the
world the last time I discussed Nvidia
on its own video I predicted that the
stock would go to the $600 to $700 range
I predicted that would happen in 2 years
this makes this a $600 stock by 2026
with this sort of growth rate and if we
include the other aspects of the
business you're actually at close to an
$840 stock you're looking at potentially
a you know what 80% return over the next
uh 3 years to potentially a double even
at today's levels at 375 unfortunately
it happened within 9 months or I guess
fortunately depending on how invested
you were it happened way quicker than
expected so my timing on that was wrong
but now given that we're sitting right
up against the next Fibonacci
retracement level which is serving as a
resistance for NVIDIA it's about 7:31 we
have to ask ourselves are we ready to
move to 969 or are we going right back
to where we were at 493 where we topped
out in this video we're going to work to
address this we're also going to
consider super micro computer who has
maybe an 8% net profit margin selling
you server racks to basically put your
AI chips on but currently has a relative
strength index of 90 down from the 95
that it had this morning so in other
words something's either got a relax
here or the growth probably has to stop
at some point in the stock evaluation
because it's done a pretty dang number
already and from a technical basis it is
ready to either pause or come right back
down so in this video we're going to
present the potential for the AI crash
now what we have to understand is that
AI will crash but first we have to
realize how it will crash so let's come
up with an example to make this
relatable and simple
let's say you do not have a cell phone
you have no phone at
all so in order for you to check your
email you have to go to a computer you
have to go to a landline to make phone
calls and maybe you're faxing things
that need to show up quickly I I don't
know whatever right you don't have a
phone we all know we all have a phone
everybody's like come on man how is this
relatable well because I want you to
think about for a moment not having a
phone and then I want you to think about
having a
phone what you've done is you've thought
about going from zero productivity in
your pants in your pockets to a lot of
productivity okay now I want you to
sincerely tell
me how much does your productivity go up
when you go from that iPhone 14 to that
iPhone
15 not much more you're probably about
the same level of productive maybe
you're 1 or 2% more productive but you
infinitely more productive than before
you had the phone well and of course we
could argue about that we could be well
you get distracted in the bathroom on
Tik Tok or whatever this really a topic
for a different video but the point is
you went from zero to a massive level of
productivity having a phone having the
Next Generation phone your productivity
probably didn't move that much that is
the difference between an infinite
growth
curve and a marginal growth curve and
what is that going to look like for AI
and the AI moment well in my opinion and
this is inspired by a course member
lecture that we did this morning this AI
had a massive growth impetus companies
went from we have ai or or sorry we we
have no AI to now we need AI servers
okay so we need AI servers so what are
we going to do we're going to call up
super micro computer we call up super yo
we need we need a th server racks as
soon as possible hey AMD we need 1,000
CPUs Nvidia we need 8,000
h100s everybody's going from zero to a
lot and that's how when you go to a
company like Nvidia or super micro
computer you look at their growth
year-over-year in like q1 Q2 of this
year you're double right these companies
revenues doubled it happened to Nvidia
it happened to Super Micro computer
you've seen it at that companies like
AMD I mean look at Nvidia for example
you went from $7 billion of Revenue uh
ending April 30th of 2023 to double that
13.5 well so roughly double that right
uh that's pretty incredible that's
actually really really good that's great
because the quarter before that they
they didn't grow much at all in fact
they
shrunk so what's remarkable is you had a
PC
hole where now Nvidia is trying to get
you to install llms on RTX PCS to
motivate you to buy more PCS so you can
download your own RTX chatbot now and
install it it's like a 35 GB file it's a
big deal a lot of people are talking
about it actually have it right here I
just haven't finished installing the
darn thing uh but anyway what what's
remarkable is you went from a company
that was really focused on gaming
computers and yes to some extent helping
in automotive and servers to having a
product that was perfect for this moment
this spark the AI the moment of
companies going from we have cloud
compute we have cloud storage but crap
we have no inference we have no AI okay
so what do we do well we create the AI
servers now we have ai servers do we
need to replace all of our h100s that we
just overpaid for you know $35,000 for
something with an MSRP of $8,000 do we
really need to go replace all of those
to get the
h200 which is all the rage right now why
because well Nvidia tells you it's all
the rage it's so much better why would
you buy the h100 or the cheaper a100
when you could have the h200 and soon
we'll be on the
B100 keep in mind that like these charts
are designed to sell you the product the
reality is all of these chips are
incredibly powerful and if you actually
showed the whole bar chart you're
probably only looking at like nominal
differences that they've zoomed in on
but that's okay that's that's how
product refresh Cycles work notify me
when the product becomes available for
the h200 tensor cord
GPU point is that the next model of the
GPU just like the iPhone 3G or the 3Gs
thereafter is not the big deal the big
deal is the moment you go from iPhone or
from no iPhone to iPhone or no phone to
phone right for you Android folks I have
an Android too okay it's actually pretty
good I just hate that I can't easily get
files it's like FaceTime somebody oh
here's your Google link what what's that
oh I shouldn't I shouldn't go down this
shouldn't go down that path uh I do have
it it it takes great photos I will tell
you that the pixel is pretty good
but this is going to happen not only is
it going to happen this crash is already
occurring this is not necessarily a
crash in the stock price however a crash
in stock prices can happen we're going
to talk about that in a moment this is a
crash in growth so when I say AI is
going to crash that is not speculation
AI is going to crash it will crash these
a company's growth levels will crash
there is zero question about that
because we already know it's happening
go into nvidia's earnings sorry we got a
bunch of notes written on here from what
we do in our course member live streams
but look we've gone from doubling
Revenue quarter over quarter to Growing
Revenue say 60% quarter over quarter to
Growing Revenue oh 34% now that was a
beat that 13.5 million uh uh billion was
a great beat it's
13,500 Millions is the way this is
written so therefore 13.5 billion that
was a beat but we went from doubling our
growth to Growing 34% over each quarter
and that's still phenomenal growth but
wait a minute now they're only
projecting 10.3% growth ah it's slowing
quarter over quarter of course it is
because now everybody who needs an
iPhone has the iPhone just to stay with
the scenario right okay so so now Nvidia
does have a tendency of beating right
now they're forecasting $20 billion in
Q4 their earnings are you know next week
on the 24st of February they'll probably
beat again they usually beat by a factor
of 1.8 to 1.48 post AI don't worry about
how I came up with that the point is
they'll probably end up showing
somewhere between 15 to 19% growth in Q4
Cal their their uh rather sorry their
fiscal Q4 2024 in other words the next
time they have earnings okay so they'll
probably show some some good growth but
it's not a double anymore it's not even
a third growth anymore so the point is
the crash of growth is happening so then
we have to evaluate
okay when we conduct a fundamental
analysis on a stock we generally look at
earnings okay so what what are earnings
going to provide us how much cash flow
am I going to get now in the case of
Nvidia the cash flow generation is
phenomenal but for that's for the
company's cash flow your cash flow is
earnings per share you get earnings per
share growth then the stock either goes
up or they pay it out in
dividends so earnings per share growth
is one way that we can it's just one of
many ways we can conduct a fundamental
analysis on a company and so what we
want to see are earnings growing
earnings can grow in a number of ways
they can grow through more Revenue
adding a new vertical like the AI
inflection point that drives the Top
Line way up and of course the botom line
way up uh or you can become more
efficient by potentially laying people
off or spending less money on research
because you maybe you don't need to as
much anymore whatever right those are
all ways you can grow
earnings when it comes to the artificial
intelligence Revolution that we've hit
once companies have their artificial
intelligence the question becomes how
much is earnings uh per share going to
grow at AI related in AI adjacent
companies like super micro computer
after we're done with the AI CR well
part of this has to to do with a very
special word
margin if you were previously which is a
pure definition of of absolute pricing
power as a result of supply chain
shortages if you were pricing h100 chips
at
$35,000 and your MSRP is $8,000 and your
cost to build the chips is $44,000 so
that's cost that's manufactured
suggested retail price and you're able
to sell them your actual sell price is
$35,000 well the reason there's a wedge
here is because there's a supply
shortage so you raise the price it's
kind of price gouging really rich
companies is what it is and that's okay
like whoever is willing to pay the most
should get the product that's how
capitalism works it's like an auction
effect when there's a shortage okay
fantastic so what happens when that
shortage goes away because that boom the
adoption of AI is gone well when the
boom goes away then what also goes away
well it's obvious your ability to charge
$35,000 for a chip goes away now don't
get me wrong it's so fantastic that you
could sell these chips that you're not
even making Nvidia you're just designing
them that's not to like insult you which
is like it's really impressive right um
the point is you're going to see margin
compression from AI because we are at
insanely inflated levels of margin today
so there will be margin compression as
Supply equalizes and of course
competition increases I mean don't count
out AMD here or some of the other
competitors trying to get into AI there
there will be competition and eventually
just like there's the Android and the
iPhone choice or whatever there will be
many equally capable some slightly
better than the other chips sitting here
and like comparing specs of different
chips doesn't matter because what really
matters is going from no AI to AI okay
but that's happened so the price levels
to some extent are
Justified because we do now have a new
Revenue vertical and we do have more
earnings per share which is likely to be
durable that earnings per share will
will likely stay for a while so I mean
Nvidia is now pumping out nearly $5 in
earnings per share the question is when
does that $5 per share change well it
could change very slowly unless there's
another AI impetus consider that by the
end of 2025 will be at6 to
$6.50 current forecast so and and before
that just to go back another year we
were sitting at like 60 cents of
earnings per share so draw this for a
moment right here you're at 60 cents of
eps then you get to $5 of eps per
quarter and then you're at $6 of eps per
quarter of course the growth rate is
insane over here and then of course
you're going to get articles like you
get from Barons they're being some
Knuckleheads right now uh Baron's uh put
together an article and they're like oh
Nvidia is really really cheap look at
this if you take the growth between 2023
and 2025 nvidia's PEG ratio is just3
whoa whoa whoaa wait a minute wait a
minute you can't take last year's growth
levels and average it with the forward
growth
levels because we just went through a
massive adoption phase I mean it's the
same thing as having like a giant
one-time expense okay let's say on your
house you spend $30,000 a year to live
in your house that's your payment and
maintenance okay the furnace goes out
whatever $30,000 a year is what you
spend but one year you spend $60,000
because you install a solar system oh my
gosh your costs of living in your home
just doubled well yeah but it it was a
onetime adjustment then we're back at 30
right so now we're back at normal level
so we have to adjust for those things
it's the same thing for Revenue okay if
we go from zero to say 60 and then we go
to 66 we went through infinite growth to
10% growth so the growth is still going
to be there it's just going to be more
incremental as you go through product
refresh refresh Cycles just like you do
with the iPhone okay fantastic so what
does that mean for valuations and how do
you actually run a valuation on a
company like this okay so this is what I
like to do uh personally okay so this
just put it all out there I'm going to
make this very simple and we'll run
through a few of these together so I
like to discount for this AI segment
future growth rates and what I'm going
to do is I'm going to run Peg ratios
based on what I think is personally
reasonable so this is you know not a
guarantee but we look at a company like
Nvidia nvidia's growth that is projected
over the next and it's so hard to look
out right but the next four years of
growth for NVIDIA are currently
projected to be
70.5% PS growth 16.5 17.2 17.7 that's
121% but we divide that by four we have
an average growth rate of about 30 so
30.5% EPS projected growth I personally
think Wall Street analysts are probably
being too bullish on this number why
because product refresh does not mean
the growth goes on forever A and B
margin compression literally barren is
screwing this up trying to tell you that
Nvidia has a23 Peg using last year's
momentous growth you can't do that it's
stupid it's it's a great way to like
delude yourself so what would I rather
like to do well I would rather like to
go in here and uh we're going to go
slash that because I am worried I'm
substantially worried
about margin compression okay I'm going
to say if we could just keep the
earnings and grow it a little bit we're
doing good so let's say we grow at 10%
nominal product refresh cycle growth
let's just say this could be way too
bearish for the company okay but I'm
going to go with it anyway I'm going to
go with 10% the current price of Nvidia
is sitting at about resistance so 730
divided by uh earnings per share for
this year uh which is the earning cycle
that uh is being announced next week
we're going to divide that by
1236 which is the expectation puts us at
59 times so now I'm going to divide that
by 10 my PEG ratio for NVIDIA is
actually 5.9 that's pretty high with 10%
growth so if I think that the PEG ratio
should be 3% because sentiment is strong
and people want to allocate to AI be
part of the future whatever it's a
stretchy PEG ratio but let's go with 3%
then the stock is probably worth half of
what it's trading for right now at 10%
growth that might be too aggressive and
and and I realize that I don't think 375
is the right number so what happens just
so you can see how quickly this could
change what happens if we assume Nvidia
has 15% growth and we're okay with a
three peg okay simple so we can back
this in
$750 divided by the 1236 1236 that gets
us to that number about the 8ish right
and in this case sparing you the math a
reasonable price range for NVIDIA in my
opinion is probably 550 to 600 that's
probably where we ought to be and if
growth ends up going lower than this
then I think the stock will get
substantially squeezed down possibly
back to that 495 rage region it all
going to come down to growth projections
if wall Street's right and we end up
getting this 30.5 EPS growth well by all
means then that's fantastic now we're at
a
onepeg so that's great and if it's
supposed to be trading if we're going to
have 30.5% growth going forward and this
stock is going to trade at a thre Peg
then a fair valuation based on what Wall
Street is saying is actually
1130 so where growth ends up the longer
term 4year growth pra trajectory where
it ends up is what is going to decide
the value of these companies so now as
an investor we look at let's go
optimistic and say Wall Street is right
we're going to go 30% okay what's the
potential growth we have for the stock
well 1130 divided by today's price 730
still 50% growth in it in that
optimistic scenario it's also possible
wall Street's too pessimistic that AI is
going to grow even more than anybody
ever thought possible in that invent
well the stock could be worth a lot more
what if what if growths 40% you know run
that for example 40 % take to 1236 we'll
take a three peg uh that's going to
bring us to $1,500 a
share so everything's going to come down
to where what that terminal rate of
growth is for these companies on an
annual basis and that's why I'm saying
the crash will come in growth and I'm
concerned because we've gone through
this momentous shift that analysts are
being too optimistic on these companies
for growing so that's my take on Nvidia
now how does this Supply to companies uh
that are AI adjacent so what about like
a super micro computer well I would
actually be even more concerned for a
company like super micro because I think
once the servers are installed you're
not refreshing the server Rex you're
refreshing maybe you're going from the
h100 to the B100 right you do every
2-year cycle refresh unless you're
expanding more servers you're not
necessarily buying more racks and so I'd
be more concerned for a company like
super micro computer and I'd be more
skeptical of their EPS growth going
forward than I would be for NVIDIA like
I I have less concerns about Nvidia than
I do for super micr computer but then
again their stock does look really
beautiful for now uh so what about a
company like Intel well Intel really
hasn't even had an opportunity to
participate here yet Intel's really just
operating in my opinion I don't
underwrite Intel as a company that's
really a chip designer I underwrite them
as a chip maker a Manufacturing Company
a plant that's being subsidized by the
US government
via massive chip supporting stimulus
checks that that game is still that
still has room to play out I think this
is a 6465 stock I think it's a
diversifier it's it's a you know could
be a value trap but I I see it as an
opportunity to diversify with so then
you have to ask yourself after growth
crashes for the AI companies are people
going to say all right I guess I have to
go find another growth stock and then
sentiment shifts probably sentiment will
shift sentiment is very bubbly right now
it's very fomo uh hugely momentum driven
on these stocks that's why the rsis are
as high as they are that almost Rhymes
but anyway sentiment will shift at some
point and that sentiment does not
necessarily mean the sock will crash
look nvidia's RSI went over here to 49
to 50 when the stock was
flat the stock just has to stop
skyrocketing and the RSI can come down
you don't necessarily have to have these
stocks crash in stock value so uh for me
it's very difficult to short these
companies certainly with uh like
short-term options I mean you could go
into earnings obviously and try to play
a short here uh the volatility is a
little high on Nvidia right now so you'd
probably be better off selling options
what I would personally like to do is
make sure that I'm Diversified as well
as possible into where's the next wave I
don't know that we're ready or primed
for like the next big AI breakout like
that next inflection point I don't think
it's here so then the question is okay
well what other stocks would people go
into once they start selling the AI
sector or we stop having as many
inflows probably at this point that
becomes a better investment than chasing
AI after what it's already done knowing
that the growth will and is already
crashing everything next week is going
to depend on nvidia's guidance if Nvidia
tells us oh my gosh growth is
accelerating way faster than we thought
all of our estimates are wrong all the
orders that came in in January oh my
gosh there are even more than we even
thought possible we thought last year we
had shortages now it's even worse the
stock will
double it's just not
ending if you know
they beat slightly and then they give
their forecast they're like okay so we
grew 18% this quarter next quarter we'll
probably be at the same level and they
go flat growth quarter over
quarter try to do a PEG ratio on a
company with no
growth it don't look very good you don't
use Peg ratios for companies with no
growth it's not possible uh but uh but
the point is you can't divide by zero
but uh the point is at some point
and we don't know when that
is growth will
flatten margins will compress and there
is substantial risk that EPS projections
are way too optimistic there is also the
potential that you could end up with
negative EPS on what I call Tough
comps that's really bad because now you
have negative growth you want to know
what company had negative
growth well there are two I could think
of one is called end phase and it did
that
another's called Tesla investors hate
negative or shrinking earnings per share
but when you have companies and this is
really important to remember too when
you have companies with really really
bad numbers for a year what you've done
is you've set up an easy beat next year
people like oh the numbers have stopped
going negative oh wow look y'all are
growing like crazy duh cuz you're
comparing to a low number and then the
question is can you sustain that growth
how long can you sustain that growth
right but now it's the opposite at
Nvidia or or a lot of these AI companies
it's like oh the growth is so hot oh why
is it going
down it's all going to come down to
growth I think we had our AI wave I
don't know we're going to have the next
part of this massive wave for another 5
to 10 years so I'm becoming a little why
not adver these things that you told us
here I feel like nobody else knows about
this we'll we'll try a little
advertising and see how it goes
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