Crypto JUST made me lose EVERYTHING.
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holy crap i literally just got wiped out
this is despite wearing dragon chain
armor
boy there are lessons in this loss that
i really hope that you take with you
forever
this is a loss that is really a 99 loss
that should have been avoidable after
all warren buffett tells us the number
one rule of investing is don't lose
money and the number two rule of
investing is don't forget rule number
one
well
i failed on number one and on number two
now i was fortunate to sell all of my
cryptocurrency and my profit less
technology companies or smaller cap
companies in january to avoid an
additional 70 to 80 losses that would
have exceeded the white about that we're
about to talk about but
the reasons that i got wiped out in this
particular investment completely wiped
out
are big lessons
now first for you to understand this you
need a bit of background do you remember
the tara luna stablecoin meltdown it was
a stable coin with a value at one point
of almost 60 billion dollars 60 billion
dollars is four times the amount of
money that kathy wood manages it is half
the size of amd amd is a 120 billion
dollar company tara luna a stable coin
got to
60 billion dollars that's a lot of money
and all of it disappeared
and when that disappeared and that
stable coin melted down crypto
brokerages lost massive amounts of money
lending their money to uncertain
entities like three arrows capital that
just vanished with that 1.18 billion
dollars under management and led these
crypto brokerages to near collapse or as
some might say no collapse
now
you know what's really sad about this
is watch this watch this three-minute
clip from march of 2021 15 months ago
when i described what could happen to
stable coins and companies that i
nicknamed like voyager digital and
crypto phi nicknames i gave voyager
digital and block fi who are making
waves of their own today listen to the
clip uninterrupted we think hey it's
pegged to the dollar it's pegged to the
dollar one uh one to one and if it's
pegged to the dollar one to one it's
kind of like having cash except it's
kind of like a high yield savings
account but that's the problem it's not
it's a loan if they made you sign a
document saying you agreed to lend this
and you could lose all of it people
probably would be less inclined to do
this but that's all in the fine print
they just say hey sign up and earn
interest on your cryptocurrency it
sounds so wonderful they don't make it
clear that this is actually a loan now
that doesn't become a problem because
right now your gusd doesn't fluctuate in
value because it's pegged to the dollar
and the markets are working normally
prices are going up you've got nothing
to worry about because as prices go up
there there usually isn't stress in the
markets right so when does this become a
problem well let's say sally says you
know what i'm going to get some margin
i'm going to buy bitcoin for 100
i'm going to get 25 of margin from
voyager here and i'm going to have 125
invested in bitcoin now let's say
bitcoin goes from 55k to 5k that's a big
drop it's about 91 right well this is
going to go down 90 to about 12.50 what
happens now well now sally gets wiped
out sally got destroyed and this could
be a flash crash this could be a day
sally instantly gets destroyed because
you have smart contracts that instantly
take your money away give it to voyager
the problem is voyager is left with an
asset that's worth a whole lot less than
what they thought it would ever be worth
so now they only have 12.50 they just
lost money when a company or an
institutional investor loses money and
this happens at scale amongst hundreds
or thousands of different client
accounts because we have no idea how
many people are margin we don't get that
kind of transparency
from the system we don't know we don't
know how often this gusd is lent out
over and over again we have no idea
let's say voyager goes bankrupt okay
voyager goes bankrupt because they're
like wow we just tell all these margin
losses well cryptofy is probably going
to have some issues as well but i'll
tell you the first thing that's going to
happen kevin and michael are going to be
like
oh crap please let me have my gusd back
and all of a sudden we're gonna see a
lot of people instantly demand
redemptions they're gonna want yo give
me turn my gusd into dollars right now
the market's crashing i'm freaking out
okay now and i know some of you are
gonna think kevin come on the same stuff
happens in fractional reserve banking
hold that thought okay i'm going to put
a little note down here fractional
reserve banking we're going to talk
about fractional reserve banking
hold that thought because there's a
massive difference quite a few actual
massive differences here so what happens
now now you've got two people who think
they have 100 of gusd in the bank
they're like i want to redeem okay well
what happens gemini and crypto if i say
hey look we're in a crisis right now no
redemptions literally no redemptions
they could do that it's happened before
look at bitfinex bitfinex a chinese
company uses tether as their stablecoin
and in october of 2018 they stopped
allowing deposits and so nobody was able
to convert uh us dollars or chinese
dollars or whatever euros into tether
and the one-to-one peg of the tether
collapsed it went down as low as 85
cents to one dollar and there was no
market crash bitcoin was stable around
six thousand dollars when that happened
no credit no crash no collapse and
tether loses 15 percent
boom like that but wait a minute it's
pegged to the dollar okay you think
kevin and michael are gonna be able to
go to the fed and go yo i demand my usd
no fed's gonna laugh you they're gonna
laugh you out of the bank like get out
of here we we did not bestow our trust
on the gusd you tried to inherit trust
of the usd you tried to inherit the
sovereign banking the uh the backing of
the full faith and credit of the united
states via a stable coin but it doesn't
work that way quick example i have let's
say a thousand of these erasers and i
say hey i will always pay you one dollar
for this eraser right here because the
value of this eraser is pegged to the
dollar cool who are you trusting the us
government or me
you're trusting me if i go bankrupt
worthless
same could happen here you get
institutional bankruptcies the value of
those underlying coins which are
corporate controlled these this is not
government control they're corporate
controlled usdc is a consortium they're
private companies that control usdc
gemini private company that controls the
gemini coin it's not a government the
government cares about
the people corporations care about
themselves so i was acutely aware of the
danger of stable coins so much so that
people in the comment sections regular
told me that i was just a fudder when it
came to stable coins that they're always
redeemable for either in the case of
tara luna juan luna or in the case of
things like usdc one dollar
well today folks are sending me a lot of
tweets saying things like it looks like
your prediction from 2021 may be playing
out and they're showing me charts
describing exactly the issue that i
explained from the video of march of
2021
unfortunately
i couldn't even protect myself
now for those of you wondering about
this chart you know with usdc on it
personally i don't believe that usdc has
massive issues until bitcoin gets closer
to sub 10 000 probably around 5 000 then
this chart from usdc could play out as
well so there's there's still more
damage to be done to cryptocurrency
valuations but
there's something propping up
cryptocurrency valuations right now that
might not last very long we'll talk
about that as well but let's go back to
me so what did i do after march of 2021
well i did exactly what i said i would
do i would stay away from stable coins
i'm like hell no no stable coins for me
that is just lending money and lending
money is stupid see i come from a real
estate background and my understanding
is that when you lend money you might
not get your money back
so i didn't want to be a lender
i wanted to be
the broker i wanted to be involved with
like hey we'll make you make the loans
but i don't want to be the lender and
this is interesting because not only am
i a licensed real estate broker but i
used to be a licensed loan originator a
licensed mlo who brokers loans
and so
this
kept me researching the issue and
looking for opportunities to invest in
this market without being in stable
coins so i interviewed people whom i
thought would know better than me here's
me with the ceo of block five you know
we're not we're not building a business
that's focused on extracting as much
value as we can today or tomorrow we're
really thinking about a relationship
with our clients over the next five 10
20 years and so that's what's important
to us
so
you know i think our our scale and
capitalization and experience in risk
management is something that really
stands apart from other
uh folks uh that operate in this market
nice so yeah i mean that's interesting
because uh when the market crashed there
in march there's no fed coming in to
bail out the crypto market right there's
no lender of last resort
it sounds like that was almost you guys
so you guys were liquid
yeah i mean look we're the we're the
largest um and and we you know we think
of ourselves as
uh certainly a company that's interested
in growing more client relationships and
offering more products to our clients
and being successful from a
uh from a capitalistic perspective but
we also view ourselves as a company
that's a
you know uh an increasingly important
part of this crypto ecosystem and that
comes with
uh certain responsibilities here's me
with the ceo of voyager digital
would you say then the vast majority of
the money that you're lending out is
going to these these larger institutions
that are doing this trading it's it's
not like you know
joe the ice cream vendor is getting my
bitcoin and if you know it's it's a cold
winter day he's going bankrupt i have
risk
yeah we don't do any of that we're not
we're straight to these big institutions
that was the it's the risk parameters
we've set as a public company and why
it's easy to see it in our disclosures
and our financials you know we just uh
put out our december financials got
posted on canadian cedar
the other day on monday as did on the
otc market so people can see all the
data and like i said it's only big
institutions because we don't want to
carry that risk for our consumers
here's me with the crypto analyst at
kathy woods arc invest
why can
blockfi or some of these other companies
voyage or whatever why can they pay me
six percent interest just for holding
bitcoin there is this is this bit
connect all over again is this a ponzi
what's going on here
yeah that's a good question
uh i i would say a few things that the
first is
there's a
there's a mis
a misperception between
offering annualized rates
and annual
rates so like what's funny is like the
six percent annualized
it's at any given time but you're going
to see massive fluctuations that might
end up converging towards two or three
percent over the year um
the second thing is that you know there
is huge custody risk
um and people are taking massive risks
by custodying it um in
um you know a in in in sort of a
counterparty and so i mean we and we've
seen we've seen like hacks and leaks um
in security leaks uh from users who end
up trying to generate yields by going to
these more esoteric products um with
block fi specifically um again i'm not i
would say i'm not the perfect person to
speak but i i've like followed zach
prince who's their ceo and and they've
done they've done tremendous things
they're doing uh they found an
inefficiency in the market um and i
think because we're so early
and crypto first companies aren't
actually as integrated into the
traditional financial system
as what we might see
um you know in a few years there's still
some significant arbitrage opportunities
uh that users are capitalizing on and
they all told me the same thing yes
there's counterparty risk for the
stablecoin but you have to trust the
institution you have to trust how good
and protected blockfi is going to be
when we just issue margin calls blockfi
one of the you know most critical pieces
of technical infrastructure that we've
built is our risk management
infrastructure which one's 24 7. it's
connected to liquidity and when prices
are volatile in either direction it
issues warnings and margin calls and
ultimately liquidations to folks who
have borrowed from us and those
liquidations occur before
the value of the loan is higher than the
value of the collateral voyager lends to
safe people
like three arrows capital
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if there's ever a problem it's the
borrower who will get screwed because
they'll just get margin called and again
i should have reminded myself of what i
said in march of 2021
because i even said the words
let's say voyager goes bankrupt okay
voyager goes bankrupt because they're
like wow we just have all these margin
losses and now guess what's happening
voyager got an emergency bailout loan
and it's limiting withdrawals from its
customers like i said redemptions would
get stopped
they're like i want to redeem okay well
what happens gemini and crypto phi say
hey look we're in a crisis right now no
redemptions literally no redemptions
they could do that it's happened before
blockfi got an emergency bailout loan
from sam bankman freed the founder of
ftx and tara luna is at zero now usdc is
still fine but the path to destruction
is written if btc keeps falling in my
opinion is
usdc breaks as well at btc 5k
until then bailouts from companies like
ftx his founder sam bankman freed or
binance can keep crypto afloat they're
basically acting like the federal
reserve
which remember when i said you're going
to wish you had a jay pal
who is referred to as the lender of last
resort well guess what cnbc is now
calling the founder of ftx
yup the lender of last resort just like
jpow but even sam bankman free doesn't
have a money printer like jaypal so that
means his support is more limited than
what jaypal can do sam bankman freed
might be able to help prop the crypto
economy up around 19 000 bitcoin as a
strong support but what happens when his
support stops what happens when true
panic spreads because there's no sam
bankman free to make sure voyager
digital can allow people to at least
remove some of their money from the
platform
tbd
but how did i get wiped out already i
couldn't even make it to the end and i
was the one ringing the bell of the
warnings so how the hell did i get
screwed well after talking to the ceo of
voyager blockfi and other crypto
analysts i thought the safest investment
was in the institutions the worst case
the people lending their stable coins
would get screwed but the brokers
transacting it would be fine you lend
the money lender gets screwed broker
still keeps the commission well that
real estate style thinking got me wiped
out because in may of 2021 i agreed to
invest in block fi as a venture capital
investment i invested four hundred
twenty thousand six hundred ninety
dollars into blockfi which is more than
other people invested when they say they
did things like starting a bank or
buying a bank you could do that with
little investments like 25 50 100 200k
no i didn't even talk about my
investment and i've still put
hundred 420
dollars into block five here's my wire
and cnbc
just released a wonderful article saying
that block fi is now in such distress
because of the three arrows capital
margin call and that margin call not
working out and that good old risk
management from blockfi not working out
so
you know uh i think our our scale and
and capitalization and experience in
risk management is is something that
really uh
stands apart from other
folks
that operate in this market blackfy is
now being sold for less than 99 of its
prior valuation potentially all to sam
bankman freed for just 25 million
dollars and all the venture capital
investments are wiped out well folks it
looks to me i can pat myself on the back
i was 100 percent right my fundamental
analysis was absolutely correct
except i still lost everything
these are these are these are laughs of
pain
see three things went wrong
this was a venture capital funding which
meant i had no liquidity
i
wanted to be liquid in crypto so i tied
myself up into venture capital which has
no liquidity
see once you're in a fund you're locked
up in fact i
regretted my decision as early as
september of 2021 when i grew concerned
more concerned about stable coins but i
was told that my money wasn't in shares
themselves that i just had ownership
interest in a fund that owned the shares
uh in block five and therefore i could
not sell my shares on equity zen a place
you can sell shares
number two i ignored the collateral
damage that would occur if my stablecoin
belief was correct this was a huge blind
spot i was correct about stablecoins
collapsing
but didn't realize that they would take
the ship down with them this was a large
blind spot and i paid the price dearly
for that number three i didn't follow up
on the red flags of the companies being
able to explain their yield strategies
numerous times in interviews i
complained that it just seemed odd that
they were able to pay people six to ten
percent on stable coins yet they somehow
weren't taking larger risks elsewhere
well by being blind to these three
issues i couldn't even save myself
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