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Chimoth, also known as Chpock because he

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spacked a bunch of businesses that in

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aggregate lost a whole lot of money,

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including Virgin Galactic, Open Door,

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amongst others, speculates that the

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Federal Reserve may raise interest

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rates. In this video, I'm going to

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explain what the Federal Reserve is

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actually likely to do. We're going to

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keep this video short because I'm not

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Anyway, let's get started. First, there

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are two sides of this debate. On one

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side of this debate, we have people who

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argue the Federal Reserve needs to raise

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rates. And the argument that they give

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for raising rates, we'll just put it on

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screen here. All right. The argument for

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raising rates is

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stimulative tax cuts uh and uh high

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inflation from tariffs. All right,

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simple argument. Okay. Second, there are

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people who argue that the Federal

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Reserve is too late and needs to cut.

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Unfortunately, I think both of these

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people, these groups of people do not

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understand how the Federal Reserve

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operates. It's fine. I'm here to help

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you understand that. So, enjoy my

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pixelated text raise. Oh, the tax cuts

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are stimulative. Oh, we're going to have

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high inflation from tariffs. more on the

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cut side. economy slowing uh tariffs

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will slow GDP more and uh this will lead

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to a deflationary potential crash

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uh on top of uh a weak labor

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market and uh and then of course um uh

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you know low pricing power at companies

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right small

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PP

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okay the thing is both of these sides

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are correct once data breaks. You have

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to remember right now we do not as a

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federal like looking at this from the

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point of view of a Federal Reserve or

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the Federal Reserve. We do not have any

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delta. Okay, Delta is very different

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from alpha. Don't don't get confused

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with the alpha report and the coupon

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code expiring this week because we're

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raising the prices a lot on the alpha

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report as we come out with the app that

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makes it pretty epic for you to see my

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stock opinion at any given time and my

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valuations for them. It's okay. That's

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coming out soon. Delta is basically just

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the difference, right? This is what the

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Federal Reserve cares about. The Federal

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Reserve does not care about your opinion

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about whether or not there's going to be

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a crash or a slowing economy. The

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Federal Reserve does not care if you

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think the tax cuts are going to be

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stimulative. In fact, the tax cuts are

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not necessarily going to be stimulative

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at all given the fact that we're just

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extending the 2017 tax cuts. And yes, we

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are returning the 179 deductions uh for

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certain products, uh, you know, uh, such

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as investments such as machinery, which

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is great for chip manufacturers, uh,

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certain investments such as aircraft or

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real estate products that can be cost

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segregated. Great.

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But again, broadly, the tax plan is an

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extension of the 2017 tax cuts along

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with some additional items. No taxes on

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cash

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tips. Cash tips likely weren't declared

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anyway, so I'm not sure exactly how

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stimulative that is. Uh, and then

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overtime

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pay. All right. Yes, there are some

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extra things in there that are going to

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increase the budget deficit that are

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going to unfortunately uh lead to pain

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when it comes to the deficit. But will

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they be mega stimulative like what we

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saw during co? No. Will they be somewhat

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stimulative? Yes. Now, does any of this

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matter? Does even my opinion on this

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matter? No. Because what matters to the

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Federal Reserve is the delta. In other

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words, what is the change in the

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economy's growth in inflation and the

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labor market? And so far, I'll make this

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as clear as possible. The change or the

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delta that the Federal Reserve sees in

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markets is a big fat zero. So in other

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words, until we have

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change, the Federal Reserve doesn't know

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whether that stasis

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zombie is in his sort of vat floating

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around is going to have his vat broken

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and shattered and he's going to fall out

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on the floor dead because the economy is

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dead or is going to break out of the top

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of it because he's so strong and he's

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fully matured and he's been

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overstimulated. He's going to take over

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the world with

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pain. That's what the Federal Reserve

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responds to. Until we have a delta of

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zero, the Fed doesn't care. Instead, the

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Federal Reserve will look at this. Oh my

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gosh, look at that. I wrote all of that

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on the very chart I was going to

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reference. Isn't that almost like a

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sign? Yes, all of this is the

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noise. Until the delta

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changes, that's redundant. Until there

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is a meaningful

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delta, the Federal Reserve will pay

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attention to this. What is this? This is

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a fiveyear forward inflation chart. It's

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basically the difference between the

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5-year Treasury yield and the 5-year

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inflation protected Treasury or TIP

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security. You don't need to worry about

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that. Don't calculate it. Just look at

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the damn chart. Okay? Guess when the

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Federal Reserve is cutting rates. I'm

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going to try to make this really simple.

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So, I'm going to take a giant oval for

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green. when the Federal Reserve is in a

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cutting

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mindset. I think this should be pretty

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damn

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obvious. Okay, this is when the Federal

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Reserve is in either a cutting or a

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halting

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mindset. Very

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simple. You get it? All right. When is

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the Federal Reserve in a hiking mindset?

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In other words, they're hiking rates

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because they're worried that uh

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inflation is getting

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away.

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Okay, do you get the picture? Hiking.

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This is when the hiking trajectories

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start. And the Federal Reserve's goal is

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to try to keep inflation

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expectations. Oh, I hate it when it does

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that. Uh stable. And we can't even get a

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change in inflation expectations right

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now because frankly there's so little

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change for the Federal Reserve to

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respond to. And that's what drives the

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Federal Reserve nuts is if you look at

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inflation

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expectations, look at how flat we

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basically are in this tight range over

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here. This is not an indication that

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inflation expectations are running away

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and that the Federal Reserve needs to

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panic and hike. It is not a sign that we

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are in a crash and the Federal Reserve

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needs to cut rates to zero. This is

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where people go, "Oh, well, isn't it

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oddly convenient that the Federal

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Reserve cut rates right before the

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election?" If you look at the labor data

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that was collapsing in June and July,

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it's where a lot of people went bearish

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in July and then of course we had our

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Japanese uh carry trade crisis in

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August. If you look at the labor market

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of those months is really bad. Federal

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Reserve was responding to a delta to a

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change. That delta was partly revised

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away and then partly grown away by

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frankly election enthusiasm. So what are

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we left with? Well, we're left with an

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environment where yes, the Federal

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Reserve because cut because it looked

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like we were going to break well below

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this because you combine the change in

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the labor market with the low end to the

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5-year inflation

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expectations. No surprise. Fed cuts.

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What do we have right now? No

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expectations of that. We're not even at

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the low end of that. And even though we

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were ticking on over here at the higher

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end of this, our inflation numbers, CPI,

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PPI, and the PCE numbers were coming in

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low. In fact, the only reason they're

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coming in even slightly positive could

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potentially be because of some of the

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pull forward of tariffs. Otherwise, they

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would have likely been coming in

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negative and the Federal Reserve would

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have been likely to respond with rate

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cuts. But for now, again, no delta of

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data. So this idea that, oh my gosh, the

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Federal Reserve needs to do anything is

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actually a very American bias. It's an

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American action bias, I like to call it.

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It assumes that the Federal Reserve

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always needs to do something. Sometimes,

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and you need to understand this if

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you're a long-term investor as well,

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sometimes the best thing to do is

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nothing. Sometimes the best thing to do

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is just wait. That is what we were doing

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with House Hack. And when something goes

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poopy dupy, in the event something goes

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poopy dupy, let's say the Federal

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Reserve comes in and cuts rates to zero

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because there's some kind of panic,

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we're immediately going to end our 5%

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bond fundraiser because we're going to

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be able to finance a bunch of real

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estate really dang cheap. And we don't

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need to pay 5% anymore. Of course, we

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still will to the people who have the

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bonds through conversions. But the point

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is, you don't actually have to do

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anything with your investments while

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you're waiting for the Fed or

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speculating on the Fed. Let's listen for

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a moment to what Champsack has to say

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and I'll add some commentary.

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Unfortunately for President Trump's

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agenda and for a MAGA movement, this is

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the worst of all conditions. The

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financial markets will punish this. The

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political calculus will be for the

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president to decide how much credit he

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actually wants to take for this bill.

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I don't actually think financial markets

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are going to punish Donald Trump's bill.

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If the market declines, it's likely

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because of a decline in growth

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expectations. But markets that is the

9:39

stock market they like even marginal

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stimulus stimulus the 179 overtime tax

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on no you know the social security

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provisions which are really not really

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no tax on social security they're more

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like expanded deductions are being built

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in these are marginally stimulative

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earnings projections like a little bit

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of stimulus I think he's more referring

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to the bond market and this idea that

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the bond market will punish because

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we'll have a higher deficit for longer.

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But the bond market breaks in the

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direction of recession, not in the

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direction of deficits in my opinion.

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We'll listen more because even though it

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has his name on it, the contents of the

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bill are different in actual facts than

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what I think he intended. And what I

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mean by that is when you look inside of

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what happened in the 11th hour last

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night, it's disappointing. This thing is

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like antidoge. If Doge was meant to be a

10:28

reflection of the American voting

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population's desire for meaningful

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reform in government, cost controls,

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some form of austerity, and to get this

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debt spiral in check, this is the

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opposite of that. What? Uh, let's also

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be clear. Many Americans voted for

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Donald Trump because they did not want

10:43

Kla Harris, an unelected assigned party

10:49

member. Many Democrats were rightfully

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pissed off about that because, and you

10:54

should be because that assignment of

10:56

Kamla got the world Donald Trump. But

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I'm not convinced that everybody who

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voted for Donald Trump. There are some,

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but I'm not convinced that everybody who

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voted for Donald Trump voted for

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austerity. Austerity

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sucks. What happened was in the 11th

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hour, you had a handful of people

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abstain. You had one person that passed

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away in the last few days. You had one

11:14

person that fell asleep on the floor of

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the house. So, he wasn't even This is a

11:17

little hyperbolic been woken up for the

11:18

vote. And in the middle of all of that

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chaos, what happened was all kinds of

11:21

things were added and attached and

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canled at the last minute because what

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happens is you have to have these puts

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and takes as Freeberg described. If you

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want to spend over here, you have to

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find a cut over there. But I think what

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happened was there was really not a lot

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of financial literacy used to decide

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what to actually put in and what to cut.

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And that lack of discipline is going to

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create I think a negative set of

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consequences. That's why Congress is so

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dysfunctional. I think it's really

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important to understand for a moment how

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Congress works.

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Okay, here's how Congress works. Let's

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say you're a representative. You need to

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get reelected in two years. You just

11:55

blew all your money getting elected. How

11:57

do you think you're going to get

11:59

reelected? By raising more capital. How

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can you get a promise of more money?

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Lobbyists. Lobbyists come to you and

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say, "Hey, Kevin, you want to get

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reelected? We'll help fund your

12:12

reelection. We just need you to help us.

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We know this budget reconciliation bill

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is coming up. We um we pre-wrote a

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section we would like you to include.

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Don't bother reading it because um even

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if you do, if you change it, we ain't

12:30

paying you next year. Here you

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go. That's how Congress functions. And

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see, one of the reasons our founding

12:41

fathers made it so complicated for

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Congress to do anything is to sort of

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prevent people from just staying in

12:48

power forever and getting whatever

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policy through that they wanted. They

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wanted to make it difficult to actually

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get policy through. One of the benefits

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of making it difficult to get policy

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through is

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frankly Congress ends up doing nothing.

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Which is part of my message. There are

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times in an investing career you just

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become a patient watcher.

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Be a reflection of the American voting

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spiral in check. Sorry, I backed up a

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little bit. It was in the 11th hour. you

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had a hands were added and attached and

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cancelled at the last minute because

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what happens is you have to have these

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puts and takes as Freeberg described. If

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you want to spend over here, you have to

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find a cut over there. But I think what

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happened was there was really not a lot

13:34

of financial literacy used to decide

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what to actually put in and what to cut.

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And that lack of discipline is going to

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create I think a negative set of

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consequences. So what are those

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consequences? Today the tenure is around

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4 1/2%. At the rate in which it's

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escalating since liberation

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day by the end of this year we're going

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to be past 5%. The 30-year is on a rate

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now to get past 6 and a4 maybe even

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reach 6 12%. I know anybody can draw

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trend lines, but if you do this and

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continue on this trend, it's just a

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matter of time before something breaks

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to the downside and then people are

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going to be like, "Oh my gosh, the 10

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year is 3%. Oh my gosh, the 10ear is 2

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and a half%." Uh, yeah, cuz you're in a

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recession. Those

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are way

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beyond what most people thought was a

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reasonable place to be for the United

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States economy. And so what will the

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implications be as rates go to those

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levels? You'll delever from the United

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States. You'll sell US debt. You'll own

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things like gold and Bitcoin if you're

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curious about what's happening to gold

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and Bitcoin. Uh by the way, this happens

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when you are actually concerned about

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the debt. But usually what happens in a

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recession, the entire world goes into a

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recession and people aren't actually

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concerned about the debt anymore.

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They're concerned about surviving and

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they're like, "Please go into more

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debt." And so what then ends up

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happening is at least until the Federal

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Reserve bails everyone out, people flee

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to the Treasury bond market because out

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of assets across the world, at least the

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Treasury bond market is one that at the

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very for what it's worth promises to pay

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you back your capital at the end of your

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holding period for what that's worth.

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Again, we can talk about inflation

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dynamics and sound money and all that

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stuff separately. But this is usually

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what happens in recessionary

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environments, right? We're just looking

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at at um risk and typically risk assets

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go down and they continue to go down

15:42

until the Federal Reserve bails out

15:44

markets and tells everybody that's okay

15:46

to go buy risky assets again. They

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started to spike in the last few days.

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You'll have ratings organizations that

15:54

add to this cascade by downgrading the I

15:57

think it's kind of also hilarious that

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Chimamoth is trying to imply that he's a

16:02

profit. You're like, oh, you know, this

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is what you're going to see. You're

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going to see Bitcoin and gold to go up

16:07

and you're going to see rating agencies

16:08

decline. Oh, by the way, both those

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happened the last two weeks. Anybody can

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read a chart and read the news

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headlines, my friend. the United States

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that happened on Friday. You'll have

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very smart people starting

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to signal that this is a much harder

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problem than they This is again reading

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the headline of Elon Musk complaining

16:28

that it was a lot harder to cut debt

16:30

from the government than he expected.

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Initially thought that's how I

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personally interpreted Elon's comments

16:35

over the last few days. So what was the

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House supposed to do? I think what they

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were supposed to do was implement some

16:43

form of austerity. They were supposed to

16:46

by the will of the people never going to

16:47

happen pass a recision bill. They were

16:50

given that recision bill. It was just n

16:52

and none of them would have gotten

16:53

reelected.

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9

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billion. They couldn't even pass a $9

16:59

billion recision and instead they passed

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a $4 trillion inflation to our debt. Now

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you hand this to the Senate. The Senate

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is in a very difficult place. It's over

17:09

$4 trillion over the next 10 years and

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now we're conflating inflation with an

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expanding debt. I actually agree that

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the debt matters to the extent of how

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strong your economy is and as a

17:20

percentage of your economy. Look, I'm a

17:22

big fan of of controlling government

17:24

spending too, but trying to take an axe

17:26

and austerity is also just going to

17:28

induce a recession. So kind of damned if

17:30

you do, damned if you don't place as

17:32

well. Do they want to quote unquote

17:35

claim victory and say, "Here you go,

17:37

President Trump. Here's your bill. But

17:39

they'll further bastardize this thing

17:41

and it will be even further away from

17:43

what I think benefits MAGA and benefits

17:47

Main Street. So, who does it benefit?

17:49

Current course and speed right now, this

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bill is about traditional Republicans

17:53

and traditional Democrats. Yeah.

17:55

Circling the wagon and putting on a

17:58

platter a set of things that I think

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will be hurtful to average Americans.

18:03

You're going to see energy prices spike.

18:06

You're gutting the number of electrons

18:08

that will be available for things like

18:09

AI. You're going to increase Medicare

18:12

prices and the math is wrong. So when

18:15

you sensitize this thing to a 4 and a

18:19

half or five or five and a quarter rate,

18:23

so meaning not what the CBO used, but

18:25

the real conditions on the

18:27

ground, this thing is an albatross. And

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the last thing I'll say is now to top it

18:33

all off, I think that Jerome Powell will

18:36

see the writing on the wall. No, many

18:39

aspects of this thing are inflationary

18:41

and if they're not handled well by the

18:43

Senate, he has a lot of room to actually

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increase interest rates.

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So, I would just say that the Senate has

18:51

an incredibly difficult job. I think the

18:53

president has an even more difficult job

18:56

about what to do right now. But the

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House did nobody favors. They did not.

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Yeah. So, keep in mind, first of all, we

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addressed the drone Powell. He responds

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to

19:07

Delta. But what we need to address is

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one of the reasons this albatross is

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able to get through is through budget

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reconciliation. It's really a way of

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saying that, hey, we don't want to get

19:17

the budget bill held up, so we're going

19:20

to pass something through

19:21

reconciliation, which bypasses the

19:23

filibuster in the Senate. In English,

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you don't need 60 votes. You only need

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51.

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So basically, Republicans or whoever's

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in power, Democrats had used this the

19:34

last time, will essentially get everyone

19:37

around, shove in everything that they

19:39

can in this budget reconciliation bill.

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That's why it's expansionary because

19:43

everybody's trying to get their

19:44

reelecting meat into the bill because

19:47

they know this bill has the highest

19:48

likelihood of passing and this might be

19:50

the only thing that ends up getting

19:52

done, the only action before midterms.

19:57

which is kind of sad, but that's the way

19:58

the system works. That's why everybody's

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trying to not circle their wagons, but

20:03

hitch their wagons to this

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bill. So, look, I agree that the debt's

20:09

a big problem. And I agree with Jerome

20:11

Powell that it's

20:12

unsustainable. I don't think what our

20:14

economy is facing in the near term is

20:18

while there's a lot of fear around the

20:19

debt right now, the debt is still, I

20:22

hate to say it, but sustainable at

20:23

today's levels. I think we need to get

20:26

through the slowing economy first. And

20:28

by raising interest rates, you're not

20:30

actually inducing a soft landing. If

20:33

you're going to raise interest rates and

20:34

that plane comes in for a landing, you

20:36

would actually just crash that plane

20:39

into the runway and then it, you know,

20:41

delta's

20:43

over. Who got that one? And then you

20:46

have a real problem, which is not good.

20:49

uh best case scenario, you actually come

20:52

in for a soft landing and and you just

20:55

you take off again. You go around and

20:57

you just keep the economy going and you

20:59

never actually have, you know, a hard

21:01

landing or a recession. So,

21:04

um this is why the Federal Reserve is

21:06

poised to wait. And this idea that oh,

21:09

you know, when you see people come, oh,

21:11

the Fed's going to be too late, they

21:12

need to cut, they're going to be too

21:14

late, they need to do this or whatever.

21:16

Yes, the Fed's always too late. And when

21:19

people say that, but Kevin, you know, if

21:22

they don't cut, they're going to be too

21:23

late. I don't think they realize that

21:27

that's like the definition of the

21:28

Federal Reserve. They're always too late

21:30

because they wait for the data to

21:32

confirm what they need to do. It's

21:35

literally the way the system is

21:36

designed. It's kind of like

21:39

saying, you know, imagine

21:43

uh, you know, somebody says, "Hey, if

21:46

you eat an apple a day, you'll never get

21:48

cancer." Okay, I'm making this up, okay?

21:51

And then you're 70 years old and you get

21:53

diagnosed with cancer. And somebody's

21:55

like, "Hey, did you have an apple a

21:56

day?" And you're like, "No, but I'll

21:58

start now." Yeah, bro. It's too late.

22:00

like the Federal Reserve is almost

22:02

always going to be that 70-year-old that

22:06

waits until the last minute and and then

22:08

it's too late, you know, and then they

22:10

have to go really extreme and it causes

22:12

a lot of damage or

22:15

whatever. And so then people are like,

22:17

well, why don't why don't they just eat

22:18

an apple a day now? It's cuz it's not

22:21

how the Federal Reserve was designed to

22:24

operate. Just the way it is. Anyway, I

22:27

hope that adds some perspective.

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