Federal Reserve to "Hike" Rates
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Chimoth, also known as Chpock because he
spacked a bunch of businesses that in
aggregate lost a whole lot of money,
including Virgin Galactic, Open Door,
amongst others, speculates that the
Federal Reserve may raise interest
rates. In this video, I'm going to
explain what the Federal Reserve is
actually likely to do. We're going to
keep this video short because I'm not
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Anyway, let's get started. First, there
are two sides of this debate. On one
side of this debate, we have people who
argue the Federal Reserve needs to raise
rates. And the argument that they give
for raising rates, we'll just put it on
screen here. All right. The argument for
raising rates is
stimulative tax cuts uh and uh high
inflation from tariffs. All right,
simple argument. Okay. Second, there are
people who argue that the Federal
Reserve is too late and needs to cut.
Unfortunately, I think both of these
people, these groups of people do not
understand how the Federal Reserve
operates. It's fine. I'm here to help
you understand that. So, enjoy my
pixelated text raise. Oh, the tax cuts
are stimulative. Oh, we're going to have
high inflation from tariffs. more on the
cut side. economy slowing uh tariffs
will slow GDP more and uh this will lead
to a deflationary potential crash
uh on top of uh a weak labor
market and uh and then of course um uh
you know low pricing power at companies
right small
PP
okay the thing is both of these sides
are correct once data breaks. You have
to remember right now we do not as a
federal like looking at this from the
point of view of a Federal Reserve or
the Federal Reserve. We do not have any
delta. Okay, Delta is very different
from alpha. Don't don't get confused
with the alpha report and the coupon
code expiring this week because we're
raising the prices a lot on the alpha
report as we come out with the app that
makes it pretty epic for you to see my
stock opinion at any given time and my
valuations for them. It's okay. That's
coming out soon. Delta is basically just
the difference, right? This is what the
Federal Reserve cares about. The Federal
Reserve does not care about your opinion
about whether or not there's going to be
a crash or a slowing economy. The
Federal Reserve does not care if you
think the tax cuts are going to be
stimulative. In fact, the tax cuts are
not necessarily going to be stimulative
at all given the fact that we're just
extending the 2017 tax cuts. And yes, we
are returning the 179 deductions uh for
certain products, uh, you know, uh, such
as investments such as machinery, which
is great for chip manufacturers, uh,
certain investments such as aircraft or
real estate products that can be cost
segregated. Great.
But again, broadly, the tax plan is an
extension of the 2017 tax cuts along
with some additional items. No taxes on
cash
tips. Cash tips likely weren't declared
anyway, so I'm not sure exactly how
stimulative that is. Uh, and then
overtime
pay. All right. Yes, there are some
extra things in there that are going to
increase the budget deficit that are
going to unfortunately uh lead to pain
when it comes to the deficit. But will
they be mega stimulative like what we
saw during co? No. Will they be somewhat
stimulative? Yes. Now, does any of this
matter? Does even my opinion on this
matter? No. Because what matters to the
Federal Reserve is the delta. In other
words, what is the change in the
economy's growth in inflation and the
labor market? And so far, I'll make this
as clear as possible. The change or the
delta that the Federal Reserve sees in
markets is a big fat zero. So in other
words, until we have
change, the Federal Reserve doesn't know
whether that stasis
zombie is in his sort of vat floating
around is going to have his vat broken
and shattered and he's going to fall out
on the floor dead because the economy is
dead or is going to break out of the top
of it because he's so strong and he's
fully matured and he's been
overstimulated. He's going to take over
the world with
pain. That's what the Federal Reserve
responds to. Until we have a delta of
zero, the Fed doesn't care. Instead, the
Federal Reserve will look at this. Oh my
gosh, look at that. I wrote all of that
on the very chart I was going to
reference. Isn't that almost like a
sign? Yes, all of this is the
noise. Until the delta
changes, that's redundant. Until there
is a meaningful
delta, the Federal Reserve will pay
attention to this. What is this? This is
a fiveyear forward inflation chart. It's
basically the difference between the
5-year Treasury yield and the 5-year
inflation protected Treasury or TIP
security. You don't need to worry about
that. Don't calculate it. Just look at
the damn chart. Okay? Guess when the
Federal Reserve is cutting rates. I'm
going to try to make this really simple.
So, I'm going to take a giant oval for
green. when the Federal Reserve is in a
cutting
mindset. I think this should be pretty
damn
obvious. Okay, this is when the Federal
Reserve is in either a cutting or a
halting
mindset. Very
simple. You get it? All right. When is
the Federal Reserve in a hiking mindset?
In other words, they're hiking rates
because they're worried that uh
inflation is getting
away.
Okay, do you get the picture? Hiking.
This is when the hiking trajectories
start. And the Federal Reserve's goal is
to try to keep inflation
expectations. Oh, I hate it when it does
that. Uh stable. And we can't even get a
change in inflation expectations right
now because frankly there's so little
change for the Federal Reserve to
respond to. And that's what drives the
Federal Reserve nuts is if you look at
inflation
expectations, look at how flat we
basically are in this tight range over
here. This is not an indication that
inflation expectations are running away
and that the Federal Reserve needs to
panic and hike. It is not a sign that we
are in a crash and the Federal Reserve
needs to cut rates to zero. This is
where people go, "Oh, well, isn't it
oddly convenient that the Federal
Reserve cut rates right before the
election?" If you look at the labor data
that was collapsing in June and July,
it's where a lot of people went bearish
in July and then of course we had our
Japanese uh carry trade crisis in
August. If you look at the labor market
of those months is really bad. Federal
Reserve was responding to a delta to a
change. That delta was partly revised
away and then partly grown away by
frankly election enthusiasm. So what are
we left with? Well, we're left with an
environment where yes, the Federal
Reserve because cut because it looked
like we were going to break well below
this because you combine the change in
the labor market with the low end to the
5-year inflation
expectations. No surprise. Fed cuts.
What do we have right now? No
expectations of that. We're not even at
the low end of that. And even though we
were ticking on over here at the higher
end of this, our inflation numbers, CPI,
PPI, and the PCE numbers were coming in
low. In fact, the only reason they're
coming in even slightly positive could
potentially be because of some of the
pull forward of tariffs. Otherwise, they
would have likely been coming in
negative and the Federal Reserve would
have been likely to respond with rate
cuts. But for now, again, no delta of
data. So this idea that, oh my gosh, the
Federal Reserve needs to do anything is
actually a very American bias. It's an
American action bias, I like to call it.
It assumes that the Federal Reserve
always needs to do something. Sometimes,
and you need to understand this if
you're a long-term investor as well,
sometimes the best thing to do is
nothing. Sometimes the best thing to do
is just wait. That is what we were doing
with House Hack. And when something goes
poopy dupy, in the event something goes
poopy dupy, let's say the Federal
Reserve comes in and cuts rates to zero
because there's some kind of panic,
we're immediately going to end our 5%
bond fundraiser because we're going to
be able to finance a bunch of real
estate really dang cheap. And we don't
need to pay 5% anymore. Of course, we
still will to the people who have the
bonds through conversions. But the point
is, you don't actually have to do
anything with your investments while
you're waiting for the Fed or
speculating on the Fed. Let's listen for
a moment to what Champsack has to say
and I'll add some commentary.
Unfortunately for President Trump's
agenda and for a MAGA movement, this is
the worst of all conditions. The
financial markets will punish this. The
political calculus will be for the
president to decide how much credit he
actually wants to take for this bill.
I don't actually think financial markets
are going to punish Donald Trump's bill.
If the market declines, it's likely
because of a decline in growth
expectations. But markets that is the
stock market they like even marginal
stimulus stimulus the 179 overtime tax
on no you know the social security
provisions which are really not really
no tax on social security they're more
like expanded deductions are being built
in these are marginally stimulative
earnings projections like a little bit
of stimulus I think he's more referring
to the bond market and this idea that
the bond market will punish because
we'll have a higher deficit for longer.
But the bond market breaks in the
direction of recession, not in the
direction of deficits in my opinion.
We'll listen more because even though it
has his name on it, the contents of the
bill are different in actual facts than
what I think he intended. And what I
mean by that is when you look inside of
what happened in the 11th hour last
night, it's disappointing. This thing is
like antidoge. If Doge was meant to be a
reflection of the American voting
population's desire for meaningful
reform in government, cost controls,
some form of austerity, and to get this
debt spiral in check, this is the
opposite of that. What? Uh, let's also
be clear. Many Americans voted for
Donald Trump because they did not want
Kla Harris, an unelected assigned party
member. Many Democrats were rightfully
pissed off about that because, and you
should be because that assignment of
Kamla got the world Donald Trump. But
I'm not convinced that everybody who
voted for Donald Trump. There are some,
but I'm not convinced that everybody who
voted for Donald Trump voted for
austerity. Austerity
sucks. What happened was in the 11th
hour, you had a handful of people
abstain. You had one person that passed
away in the last few days. You had one
person that fell asleep on the floor of
the house. So, he wasn't even This is a
little hyperbolic been woken up for the
vote. And in the middle of all of that
chaos, what happened was all kinds of
things were added and attached and
canled at the last minute because what
happens is you have to have these puts
and takes as Freeberg described. If you
want to spend over here, you have to
find a cut over there. But I think what
happened was there was really not a lot
of financial literacy used to decide
what to actually put in and what to cut.
And that lack of discipline is going to
create I think a negative set of
consequences. That's why Congress is so
dysfunctional. I think it's really
important to understand for a moment how
Congress works.
Okay, here's how Congress works. Let's
say you're a representative. You need to
get reelected in two years. You just
blew all your money getting elected. How
do you think you're going to get
reelected? By raising more capital. How
can you get a promise of more money?
Lobbyists. Lobbyists come to you and
say, "Hey, Kevin, you want to get
reelected? We'll help fund your
reelection. We just need you to help us.
We know this budget reconciliation bill
is coming up. We um we pre-wrote a
section we would like you to include.
Don't bother reading it because um even
if you do, if you change it, we ain't
paying you next year. Here you
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go. That's how Congress functions. And
see, one of the reasons our founding
fathers made it so complicated for
Congress to do anything is to sort of
prevent people from just staying in
power forever and getting whatever
policy through that they wanted. They
wanted to make it difficult to actually
get policy through. One of the benefits
of making it difficult to get policy
through is
frankly Congress ends up doing nothing.
Which is part of my message. There are
times in an investing career you just
become a patient watcher.
Be a reflection of the American voting
spiral in check. Sorry, I backed up a
little bit. It was in the 11th hour. you
had a hands were added and attached and
cancelled at the last minute because
what happens is you have to have these
puts and takes as Freeberg described. If
you want to spend over here, you have to
find a cut over there. But I think what
happened was there was really not a lot
of financial literacy used to decide
what to actually put in and what to cut.
And that lack of discipline is going to
create I think a negative set of
consequences. So what are those
consequences? Today the tenure is around
4 1/2%. At the rate in which it's
escalating since liberation
day by the end of this year we're going
to be past 5%. The 30-year is on a rate
now to get past 6 and a4 maybe even
reach 6 12%. I know anybody can draw
trend lines, but if you do this and
continue on this trend, it's just a
matter of time before something breaks
to the downside and then people are
going to be like, "Oh my gosh, the 10
year is 3%. Oh my gosh, the 10ear is 2
and a half%." Uh, yeah, cuz you're in a
recession. Those
are way
beyond what most people thought was a
reasonable place to be for the United
States economy. And so what will the
implications be as rates go to those
levels? You'll delever from the United
States. You'll sell US debt. You'll own
things like gold and Bitcoin if you're
curious about what's happening to gold
and Bitcoin. Uh by the way, this happens
when you are actually concerned about
the debt. But usually what happens in a
recession, the entire world goes into a
recession and people aren't actually
concerned about the debt anymore.
They're concerned about surviving and
they're like, "Please go into more
debt." And so what then ends up
happening is at least until the Federal
Reserve bails everyone out, people flee
to the Treasury bond market because out
of assets across the world, at least the
Treasury bond market is one that at the
very for what it's worth promises to pay
you back your capital at the end of your
holding period for what that's worth.
Again, we can talk about inflation
dynamics and sound money and all that
stuff separately. But this is usually
what happens in recessionary
environments, right? We're just looking
at at um risk and typically risk assets
go down and they continue to go down
until the Federal Reserve bails out
markets and tells everybody that's okay
to go buy risky assets again. They
started to spike in the last few days.
You'll have ratings organizations that
add to this cascade by downgrading the I
think it's kind of also hilarious that
Chimamoth is trying to imply that he's a
profit. You're like, oh, you know, this
is what you're going to see. You're
going to see Bitcoin and gold to go up
and you're going to see rating agencies
decline. Oh, by the way, both those
happened the last two weeks. Anybody can
read a chart and read the news
headlines, my friend. the United States
that happened on Friday. You'll have
very smart people starting
to signal that this is a much harder
problem than they This is again reading
the headline of Elon Musk complaining
that it was a lot harder to cut debt
from the government than he expected.
Initially thought that's how I
personally interpreted Elon's comments
over the last few days. So what was the
House supposed to do? I think what they
were supposed to do was implement some
form of austerity. They were supposed to
by the will of the people never going to
happen pass a recision bill. They were
given that recision bill. It was just n
and none of them would have gotten
reelected.
9
billion. They couldn't even pass a $9
billion recision and instead they passed
a $4 trillion inflation to our debt. Now
you hand this to the Senate. The Senate
is in a very difficult place. It's over
$4 trillion over the next 10 years and
now we're conflating inflation with an
expanding debt. I actually agree that
the debt matters to the extent of how
strong your economy is and as a
percentage of your economy. Look, I'm a
big fan of of controlling government
spending too, but trying to take an axe
and austerity is also just going to
induce a recession. So kind of damned if
you do, damned if you don't place as
well. Do they want to quote unquote
claim victory and say, "Here you go,
President Trump. Here's your bill. But
they'll further bastardize this thing
and it will be even further away from
what I think benefits MAGA and benefits
Main Street. So, who does it benefit?
Current course and speed right now, this
bill is about traditional Republicans
and traditional Democrats. Yeah.
Circling the wagon and putting on a
platter a set of things that I think
will be hurtful to average Americans.
You're going to see energy prices spike.
You're gutting the number of electrons
that will be available for things like
AI. You're going to increase Medicare
prices and the math is wrong. So when
you sensitize this thing to a 4 and a
half or five or five and a quarter rate,
so meaning not what the CBO used, but
the real conditions on the
ground, this thing is an albatross. And
the last thing I'll say is now to top it
all off, I think that Jerome Powell will
see the writing on the wall. No, many
aspects of this thing are inflationary
and if they're not handled well by the
Senate, he has a lot of room to actually
increase interest rates.
So, I would just say that the Senate has
an incredibly difficult job. I think the
president has an even more difficult job
about what to do right now. But the
House did nobody favors. They did not.
Yeah. So, keep in mind, first of all, we
addressed the drone Powell. He responds
to
Delta. But what we need to address is
one of the reasons this albatross is
able to get through is through budget
reconciliation. It's really a way of
saying that, hey, we don't want to get
the budget bill held up, so we're going
to pass something through
reconciliation, which bypasses the
filibuster in the Senate. In English,
you don't need 60 votes. You only need
51.
So basically, Republicans or whoever's
in power, Democrats had used this the
last time, will essentially get everyone
around, shove in everything that they
can in this budget reconciliation bill.
That's why it's expansionary because
everybody's trying to get their
reelecting meat into the bill because
they know this bill has the highest
likelihood of passing and this might be
the only thing that ends up getting
done, the only action before midterms.
which is kind of sad, but that's the way
the system works. That's why everybody's
trying to not circle their wagons, but
hitch their wagons to this
bill. So, look, I agree that the debt's
a big problem. And I agree with Jerome
Powell that it's
unsustainable. I don't think what our
economy is facing in the near term is
while there's a lot of fear around the
debt right now, the debt is still, I
hate to say it, but sustainable at
today's levels. I think we need to get
through the slowing economy first. And
by raising interest rates, you're not
actually inducing a soft landing. If
you're going to raise interest rates and
that plane comes in for a landing, you
would actually just crash that plane
into the runway and then it, you know,
delta's
over. Who got that one? And then you
have a real problem, which is not good.
uh best case scenario, you actually come
in for a soft landing and and you just
you take off again. You go around and
you just keep the economy going and you
never actually have, you know, a hard
landing or a recession. So,
um this is why the Federal Reserve is
poised to wait. And this idea that oh,
you know, when you see people come, oh,
the Fed's going to be too late, they
need to cut, they're going to be too
late, they need to do this or whatever.
Yes, the Fed's always too late. And when
people say that, but Kevin, you know, if
they don't cut, they're going to be too
late. I don't think they realize that
that's like the definition of the
Federal Reserve. They're always too late
because they wait for the data to
confirm what they need to do. It's
literally the way the system is
designed. It's kind of like
saying, you know, imagine
uh, you know, somebody says, "Hey, if
you eat an apple a day, you'll never get
cancer." Okay, I'm making this up, okay?
And then you're 70 years old and you get
diagnosed with cancer. And somebody's
like, "Hey, did you have an apple a
day?" And you're like, "No, but I'll
start now." Yeah, bro. It's too late.
like the Federal Reserve is almost
always going to be that 70-year-old that
waits until the last minute and and then
it's too late, you know, and then they
have to go really extreme and it causes
a lot of damage or
whatever. And so then people are like,
well, why don't why don't they just eat
an apple a day now? It's cuz it's not
how the Federal Reserve was designed to
operate. Just the way it is. Anyway, I
hope that adds some perspective.
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