What the Fed Said Today... Another Shift.
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hey everyone kevin here let's take a
listen to see what the president
of the saint louis federal reserve mr
james bullard had to say
about the economy tapering and more
let's go ahead listen in we're going to
jump right into
the best parts let's go uh reading it
right now we're certainly hearing a lot
of anecdotes from our business contacts
about
uh supply chain disruption and uh
other increases in prices commodities as
you just mentioned
so i think we are going to see some
inflation then i expect some of that to
hang on in
2022 uh maybe two and a half percent in
2022
so so this right here is actually a
little bit more concerning because
loretta mester this morning who's
another fed president
mentioned as well that we could see
supply chain disruptions
uh start settling down and
see inflation come down in 2022 but we
wouldn't really see that inflation go
away until 2022.
now i have this belief that we're going
to see an inflection point
based on a video i made earlier and a
long-standing belief that i've had we're
going to see an inflection point in
inflation rotating to the downside
between july and october
but the more they talk about inflation
lasting through
2022 the longer the sell-off could take
let's keep listening part of that is the
fed strategy of
uh being less preemptive than we would
have been historically because we're
trying to make up for
past misses of inflation to the low side
of our inflation target
yeah so it sounds like this is because
of their new strategy called
fate which is flexible average inflation
targeting basically saying hey
we're okay if inflation just sits around
two and a half percent month after month
after month
that's what we want to get to an average
of two percent and eventually
we narrow down to two percent and that's
because they've had such a struggle of
getting to two percent
inflation per their metrics for a while
you're in the transitory
camp i'm trying to feel out where you
are on the transitory
you know well how likely is a good
question the fed would have to move
i love sarah just cuts them off you know
it's a good question so i
uh some of this is transitory but not
all of it
because part of what we're trying to do
is get inflation expectations
cemented at the 2 percent target
they've been slumping down below target
over the last decade and we want to
reinforce our inflation target so we
want to get inflation expectations up
this by the way is a clarification on
what jerome powell says jerome powell
says
hey most of the inflation we're seeing
is going to be transitory
he's saying well but not all of it
because we do after all want some
inflation we're trying to get to two and
a half percent inflation so again i'll
be transitory otherwise we wouldn't get
to our two and a half percent
so you're kind of seeing these these
mixed messages a little bit
there's someone on the same side but
they've also got a little different ways
of conveying things let's keep listening
have your break even has been trading
uh somewhat higher here uh but
not at such a high level that i'm uh
worried about it
um but i do think it's encouraging for
the fed's policy that we will be able to
get
inflation up and over two percent uh
over the next two years and and allow it
to be there for some time
how big a swing factor president bullard
for
um the level of transitory nature of
inflation is vaccination rates and if we
get above
expectations does that suddenly mean
we're in a worrying outlook for
inflation
they're trying to pin down hey if we get
like 70 80
people vaccinated does that mean we're
gonna overheat way faster
great question uh
the vaccination process seems to be
going pretty well i would say
a good baseline model to have in your
head is a technology adoption model
which is
always s-shaped whenever you see those
curves they're very slow at the
beginning then they rise
rapidly and then it's very hard to get
the last part of the technology adoption
that's what's going to happen with the
vaccinations here that's interesting
he's really saying
he's answering this by saying hey think
of vaccinations
as growing like an s-curve which just so
you have a graphical picture of what
that looks like
you have slow growth at first kind of
like a tesla right
then you get this sort of exponential
style growth
and then you get this slowing down again
which a lot of folks think we might
potentially be in this inflection point
phase now where we're slowing down
and this is another way of saying it's
going to take longer to get this last
portion over here
that last you know uh you know 40 or
whatever people is going to take longer
than than the first
60 percent let's keep listening uh but
nevertheless i think uh
it's it's going very well keep in mind
current vaccination rates i want to say
in california around 35 percent
nevada's around uh 40 so it's still
still
work to be done but anyway keep going
here well in the u.s
fatalities are coming down dramatically
confirmed cases are down
uh dramatically so i think that boats
very well
for the u.s economy and our ability to
reopen and put the pandemic
behind us not as good in the rest of the
world as you know but
uh but going very well in the u.s
which brings us to the jobs question
today we got data showing 8.1 million
job openings a record high
we've started to see wages move up so
there's clearly demand
for labor and yet april's jobs report
was disappointing in terms of the number
of hirings
why do you think that happened
uh i think it's just a little bit early
to really expect
a big jobs growth you've got
the pandemic not quite over yet not
everybody vaccinated still at risk out
there
it strikes me that for a low-wage worker
that's been disrupted
it's not that great a proposition right
now to tell that person
or ask that person to come back to work
so then he touches on jobs and some
history
got a little boring there but then sarah
eisen comes in with a good question
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let's see his response
to uh sarah eisen's question why are you
guys still printing them
why don't you give it up if the economy
is doing so well stop
printing maybe then we won't have these
high inflation expectations
see what his response is once we get out
of the pandemic then i think it'll be
time to uh
look at whether monetary policy can
change
and as far as congress goes i'm growing
more skeptical
reading the political tea leaves that
they're going to be doing anything more
either
okay i'm just going to quickly because
we did jump into that there just to
clarify what he just said
this is a big statement here he's going
hey look you know what
yeah we're still printing money and
guess what we're gonna keep printing
money until the pandemic is
over remember what he said earlier it's
very important we're going to
he's basically saying we're going to
print money until we get to that
vacation
vaccination level and we think this
vaccination level is going to be
harder to get to right here because of
s-curve adoption rates
for the uh vaccine
then he says about congress though i
don't expect them to keep printing money
and uh this could sort of be an
implication well i think it's a clear
argument that he's not expecting
congress to send any kind of more
stimulus checks or whatever
but it might be a little bit of an
argument that maybe the congress or
congress is even having trouble getting
the infrastructure plan done which could
be another way of suggesting that hey
you know
look we're still reprinting we still
have work to do we're still going to
keep
holding firm until the pandemic's over
congress on the other hand
well they always have trouble spending
money the fact that they got the
spending done they did is great but
we're not going to see any big new
stimulus package
maybe we'll see the infrastructure but
hey skeptical we'll see what happens
what he said here it's a pretty big
response on on basically the fed saying
i mean we're just going to keep printing
let's keep going
that's interesting i finally just wanted
to get your sarah nails it
thoughts on the housing market which
which is red hot and we are seeing now
price increases double digits yeah
how price increases q1 went up like 16
in housing which was like
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response here on housing
bidding wards are back there's a low
supply
why is the fed still buying
mortgage-backed securities do you worry
that the fed is
stoking the flames of this hot housing
market and hurting affordability
such a great question again and she's
reiterating basically a similar question
to what she just asked she goes
why are y'all printing so much money
then he answered with himself
and congress now she's going what about
housing housing's blowing up you guys
are basically supporting the housing
market too
it's a great part two to her original
question
yeah i think uh it's certainly true that
the
housing market looks uh extremely strong
i you know i hope that elicits a supply
response
uh you've certainly got uh lumber prices
being talked about a lot here so i think
that uh when the time comes that's
something we could look at but
but uh i think it's too early to talk uh
taper here we're gonna let the chair uh
open that discussion when he thinks it's
appropriate
there's a headline too early to talk
taper we've heard it from a number of
fed presidents all day long we thank you
for your time
james willard president of the saint
louis vote that was good
uh i mean it was it was very insightful
i think the big bottom lines i took away
from this are
that the fed with two folks today mester
and
uh bullard are thinking hey look
inflation
we're gonna push for this to be two and
a half percent for a while we're going
to keep printing for a while don't worry
about us
raising rates or tapering just yet we've
got to get that s curve adoption for
vaccines
uh done and we don't even know what the
winter is going to look like last time
jerome powell talked
he mentioned that look winter could be
bad unless we get that vaccine adoption
so the fans holding firm they're going
to keep printing and keep supporting
and they expect that inflation will
inflict down sometime between now
and next year but that uh higher these
these inflationary prices will
definitely continue
uh throughout the rest of the year so
we'll keep an eye on that
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