We measured our HRTF to try PERFECT headphone sound

Oh,

I have been waiting for this for to

arrive for a while. Oh, I hope it didn't

break. If it broke, I'm going to be

upset. All right.

>> Hi.

>> So, uh well, I hope I hope the box

wasn't too uncomfy. We didn't really

have the budget for flights, but you're

you're certainly getting the uh the

proper British weather at the moment.

>> Yeah. Well, you know, this is uh this is

the kind of weather that I I get up for

in the morning, you know. Hey, there's a

hitchhiker right here.

>> Hitchhiker.

>> Yeah.

>> Let's let's see where he's going.

>> Where are you going?

>> Anywhere without 10 kilohz, man.

>> We got uh we got space. Do you want to

bring him?

>> Yeah, why not?

>> Hop in, man.

run.

>> All right, let's uh we're we're going

somewhere where there's there's plenty

of uh acoustic treatment, so you should

you should be all right.

>> Yeah,

>> that sounds good.

>> So, I was thinking one thing though.

>> Yeah,

>> we could probably squeeze another like

reviewer in if we could maybe find one.

>> Yeah, but it's hard to find one. Like

>> we're not too far from release at least.

Okay.

>> We could they might have some in stock.

>> Okay.

>> Should we go knock one in stock?

>> I think that makes sense. I mean, as

long as they like I don't know. We're

three deep already. We got to make sure

they fit.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. We'll have to get one that's

compact.

>> Yeah, we got a small one.

>> Okay. All right. Well, let's go check

out lease.

>> Okay.

>> Hello.

>> Hello, sir.

>> Hi.

>> We have a little bit of an issue. Do you

have any reviewers in stock at the

moment?

Um, let me check. I think we might have

>> Okay. Do you mind if we come in?

>> Yeah, thank you.

>> Yeah, let me let me just check.

>> Nice space here.

>> This is here. No, it's not here.

>> Oh, yeah.

>> Oh, well, we have this one.

>> Ah, excellent.

>> But yeah, the battery is kind of dead,

so you might have to charge them.

>> No, that's fine. We can pick up some

battery somewhere.

>> All right.

>> He's Yeah, he looks pretty pretty

compacted, too. This is the new one,

right? Yeah, it's it's a it's a good

size model.

>> Awesome. Okay. Yeah, we'll we'll take

him. Thank you.

>> Awesome.

>> It's actually going to be

>> That's going in. Wait, you recorded

this?

>> Yeah, it is recording.

So, we are currently all here in warm

and sunny UK. You guys are definitely

experiencing proper British weather at

the moment.

>> Yeah, we we've inflicted ourselves upon

you and the weather has accommodated.

>> Yes. And uh why why is it that you guys

are here?

>> Uh you know, mostly the weather, just

enjoy, you know, the UK in February,

>> but also some headphone related stuff.

>> Maybe if we're lucky.

>> If we can get round to it.

>> Yeah, if we can get round to it.

>> Yeah. Yeah. The goal is to actually go

to a lab and get our HRTFS. Now, that's

people are like, "What what is that?

What is an HRTF? Should we talk about

that?"

>> I mean, very basic. It's the way our

heads and ears affect incoming sound.

Uh, and we need to know that stuff for

uh for the project which we're embarking

on, which is uh using in-ear

microphones.

>> So, that is one of the key missing

pieces. It's the missing link between

what we see on a graph and what we hear.

It's what's actually going on at our own

eardrums when we're listening to these

products because the measurements that

we take that we all love, they're done

on industry standard measurement

equipment and we're not actually

experiencing the picture that we get

from the graph done on industry standard

measurement equipment. So what we get

with this ideally is a way to understand

that picture on our own heads with our

own ears. And there's a few other pretty

interesting things that this is going to

allow us to do. The biggest thing

obviously is being able to measure

headphones on our own head. Not just on

the 5128, not just on the grass, but

seeing how headphones are actually

performing on us so that when we're

reviewing headphones, we don't have to

do that. Well, this is how it measures

on a 5128, but I don't actually hear

that 6 kHz peak or for me it's here

instead or something. It's just no, this

is how it's behaving on my head. And we

can show that to you. But also, that

means that then if we go to something

like a can jam or any kind of meetup or

anything like that, we can just sit down

and measure our headphone as long as we

ourselves are there. which is pretty

exciting

>> and I'm also excited for being able to

understand better the whole question of

technicalities right people like I can't

tell you how many times like every week

I have I weigh

>> Cameron looks at me

>> I I I I weigh into the trenches where

people are like but what about the

technicalities and and in so many ways

this this will help illuminate why we

talk about this in terms of frequency

response at the eardrum where a lot of

people are unable to see how that may

differ from what they're used to

understanding frequency response as.

>> Yeah. At least that's the hope. We're

hoping that this can help demystify both

what is contributing to a technicality

uh but also like

>> why one of us may hear the

technicalities different from one of the

others. Yeah.

>> And and to be clear, this these are all

open questions, right? By no means is

this uh we're going to do this so we can

say we told you so. Maybe maybe we can,

maybe we can.

>> We don't know,

>> but we legitimately do not know. And

that's why it's important to to do stuff

like this. It's called science, by the

way.

>> So, I guess the question that a lot of

people watching are going to have is,

well, why did you guys need to come to

the UK to do this? Why can't you just

put some mics in your ears and measure

headphones like that? What is it that

we're actually doing that is just

different from onhead measurements that

you could theoretically do already?

>> Yeah. So, it's not that we couldn't do

something like this. It's just it would

be so expensive and prohibitive

time-wise to put together a way that we

could all get this data that is

comparable. So, what we're going to be

doing is going to this lab at the

Imperial College of London, and they

have an arc of speakers in a

well-treated space that can rotate

around us. So, we're going to be able to

get a full directional capture of all of

these different directions around us.

So, we can get what we call the diffuse

field, HRTF, um, which is basically the

average of all, uh, positions of a sound

source, uh, because that's what we need

to evaluate headphones, uh, and

headphone measurements. But it's not

something that's easy to do on our own.

So we did have to come to a lab that is

already set up to do that. So we could

get that done in a way that is

equivalent for all of us.

>> And then this much like we do with

existing measurements for things like

the 5128 allows us to then basically

subtract most of the effects of how our

head is modifying things to show just

what the headphone is doing. How is the

headphone different from sounds that

would be actual neutral uh you know

coming to our heads.

>> I always think of it as like it's kind

of like microphone calibration. It's

just that instead of for a microphone,

it's for our heads.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> We areic calibrating our heads.

>> Yeah.

>> But obviously, whilst you guys have been

in the UK, we've not uh just been doing

lab stuff.

>> We uh we went out to Winchester today

and saw some very old buildings, some of

which are quite a bit older than the

United States.

>> This This is us um North Americans

enjoying a culture for once.

>> That culture being gray rainy.

>> Yeah. Gray gray rainy. But it's

something

>> you're so happy.

>> Look, look at the smell on his face that

you'll never see from headphones.

>> No headphone has ever made this man this

happy.

>> Yeah,

>> I loved it. I I could live there. It was

uh it was wonderful. It was nice and uh

very sort of brown and rust colored,

earth tones everywhere and uh overcast

and delightful. I had a smile on my face

the whole time.

>> I mean, the cathedral in Winchester is

about a thousand years old. So

>> insane. I mean, I think a thousand years

ago, if id seen that, I would probably

become pretty religious if I wasn't

already.

>> Yeah.

>> A thousand years ago.

>> The marketing pitch is

>> This is pretty compelling.

>> What do you What do you reckon the RT60

time of year is?

>> Exactly. Yeah.

>> And speaking of religious experiences,

we did go to Nandos, an institution.

>> It It really It really was. I mean, in

Canada, we we do have Nandoses around,

but here you walk in and it's like huge

room. We We were the first people in

there. It was super empty, but as soon

as we got in, like 10 minutes later,

entire place was was packed. It was

legitimately like super good. I didn't

even finish my meal. That's how big it

was.

>> Pizza time.

>> Okay, we're trying uh Canadian eats

British British snacks. But

>> uh just wait till you try some pickled

monster munch.

>> This is monster munch.

>> So there's a very fun Whoa, whoa, whoa.

>> Punch. No, you don't like that.

>> First, we're going to do munchy peas.

piece. Got it.

>> Oh, I actually like it.

>> It's not bad.

>> Happy.

>> Yeah.

>> I already tried it. It's definitely not

bad, but it's like

>> Yeah, there

I like it.

>> Got to get you a fish reaction.

>> It's really good.

>> We just picked up the whole thing.

>> Oh, yeah.

>> Oh, yeah. That's real good.

>> I put a little bit of salt and I need

spread some lemon, but that is very

much.

>> No.

I could live here.

>> What have the uh the headphones and

stuff that you guys have tried so far

here as well? Have you been uh

>> Yeah, so that's the thing. We've been

we've been in Cameron's studio for the

last little bit.

>> Started with the speakers. The speaker

room is crazy.

>> Oh my god. Yeah, we listened to

Cameron's speaker setup yesterday and

it's legit. Um for all of the people who

are wondering, uh that room is pretty

insane. And yeah, obviously you've done

correction to iron out room modes in the

bass and

>> yeah,

>> you can tell uh it's very immersive.

>> I don't think any speaker system is

complete or you're certainly not getting

the most out of it if you're not doing

any kind of

>> remote.

Yeah, hearing like a a speaker setup at

a at a trade show or something like that

is

>> incomparable. I mean that the other big

contributor is that you have two sub

subs on there, right? Like most people a

lot of people don't even add a sub which

is crazy.

>> No, which Yeah. I mean, well, firstly,

like the acoustically optimal position

for a fullrange speaker is almost never

going to be the ideal position for a

sub. Um, but then I'm also doing some

silly stuff with uh like four deck

channels and independent correction with

proper crossovers, not just low passing

the subs. I'll probably do a dedicated

video on that at some point cuz it is a

little bit of a wild setup, but well,

hopefully you guys enjoyed it.

>> Oh, yeah. No, the the the lengths you

went were clearly worth it.

It produces a very Andrew and I were

both saying it's like a perfect mix of

novel and correct

>> like the the imaging presentation.

>> The imaging was the coolest thing about

it. Yeah.

>> Yeah. But but it it's it's not crazy.

It's just a very nicely deep well put

together presentation and then the tone

is just kind of like

>> Yep.

>> For me, the big takeaway in your system

is the level of depth that that system

was able to achieve was unreal. Like

I've I've been to, you know, some audio

shows in in Toronto and seen some pretty

nice systems and the convincingness of

the depth on this one was just something

I hadn't hadn't heard before.

>> Oh, I'm glad you guys enjoyed it. What

about the uh headphones? I mean, you

guys have tried most of the other stuff

we I've got here already, but were there

any ones?

>> Well, we we tried the the Wi-Fi man.

>> Yeah, the uh Wi-Fi the H1000 Wi-Fi and

ARA Wi-Fi. What do you think of those? I

was not as into them as some of the

other hymns that I've heard.

>> Um I can kind of I can see what they're

going for and it's cool that it's we

plug the wire in just to make it easier

to use.

>> Yeah.

>> But it sounds kind of like a like a bit

more V-shaped, like a bit more low end

than what I'm used to like.

>> Yeah, it is a little bit bassier than

the normal H1000. Um which I did check

and they're not doing any DSP or

anything. So it is just uh differences

in acoustic tuning, which is

interesting. I kind of wish they could

do some of that with uh with the

original HG100 to be honest. We'll uh

once we're done with the lab, we'll have

to guess on head measurements and see

what see what they say.

>> Yeah. Uh were there any other headphones

that you guys had heard before?

>> Well, I've heard the composer before,

but I did I did like it on Cameron

System. It's it's a Z by the way. It's

all the Z. No. Uh yeah, the the composer

was was pretty good. We did some pad

swapping. He has this um Z EQ box thing

set up which was also pretty fun to to

play around. Um, I heard the composer

before at like at like a show.

Apparently the amp I heard it off may or

may not have some issues with like

treble distortion on on this one. It's

this one's pretty good. So, I was I was

kind of surprised that Yeah, I quite

like the setup.

>> What do you guys think of the uh the

Pudphones?

>> It's fun.

>> Super fun.

>> Yeah.

>> As typical with the Pudphone.

Surprisingly balanced.

>> They They look like they should be

beyond cursed and somehow they're not.

>> No, they're super normal.

>> Yeah. Which is crazy. like warm but yeah

the the punchiness in the the bass

especially the midbase is pretty nice

>> but like zero texture though

>> yeah the low and center mid pretty

scooped it sounds like

>> but the problem is you can't headbang on

this

>> no no no headbang on unfortunately

>> also wait is oh it says golden sound

>> oh that's that's tough

>> so those are the ones you got to wear

for Zoom calls

>> yeah yeah

>> infinite aura

>> are you are you really headbanging

unless you chains rattling against the

side of your face.

>> But uh on that note, I guess we should

probably head into London Town and go do

some science.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah.

>> Time for science. Real science.

Do you uh fancy joining?

>> I don't think they're ready for my

ideas.

>> I think I think uh audio is a cut of its

own already. So, we're culted out.

All right. So, I am here with Neils at

the Turret Lab in the UK. Why don't you

tell me what it is that you guys do here

and a bit about yourself?

>> Yeah, sure. So, we're in the turret lab

at the moment. My name is Neils. I'm a

PhD student in the audio experience

design team and this is where we do most

of our measurements. So we're in the

HRTF measurement dome at the moment.

This is where we record head related

transfer functions. It's just one of the

components of the work that we do in our

lab. Um for those of you who don't know,

HRTFs are the direction dependent way in

which your body interacts with sound. We

can capture that representation and

apply it to new sound and that'll make

it sound as if it was coming from that

location that we measured. This is the

those are the principles of spatial

audio and it's um technology that's used

in virtual reality hearing devices uh

and consumer spatial audio as well.

>> What's the the process like going

through getting your HRTF captured with

this system here? I mean, we're in this

massive dome with a ton of acoustic

material everywhere.

>> Yeah. What's what's the process like?

>> Yeah, so it's a it's a long but

relatively short process. So the whole

um system whole measurement takes around

45 minutes. We start with some simple

calibration and some prepping for

example tying your hair back and

unluding your pinner and your ears um so

that we don't have any unnecessary

interference. Then we align you with

each plane, horizontal plane um with the

lasers. And then we take the headphone

transfer function. So we play some sign

sweeps um through both headphones and we

can calculate the inverse filter. And

then the proper measurement starts. And

this involves sitting in the chair. We

play bunch of sign sweeps from our

measurement arc. Here we have a 5°

horizontal increment. And then the the

chair rotates. So instead of the arc

rotating, which would be really

cumbersome, the chair rotates um while

you're sitting in it. And at five degree

intervals, we take a the whole

measurement system, the all

measurements. Again, we repeat this

until you're at 180° and then you have

your 360° HRTF. After the HRTF

measurements, we also take a

highfidelity 3D scan and a lower

resolution photo photoggramometry. Uh

these are really important. So with a 3D

scan, we can capture your your

morphology in 3D. And with a

photoggramometry, we take pictures with

an iPhone or with a with a phone in

10°ree increments. So there's these

various degrees of resolution. We have

very low um resolution um 2D images with

the iPhone. We have a high fidelity 3D

scan with the 3D scanner. And then we

have the real acoustic measurements. One

big application in the field or one big

research area is how can we generate

your own individual HRTF or estimate it

from measurements that aren't acoustic

because this lab is not very accessible.

Everyone can't have their own HRTF

measured. So can we go from a photo of

your ear for example to a full HRTF? If

we can go from a photo of your ear to a

full HRTF, can we go from the 3D scan um

of your ear to a HRTF or vice versa? and

how do the qualities of those HRTFs

vary? And the great thing is because

we're doing it all in the same room, we

can compare those simulated HRTFs to the

real acoustically measured ones and a

very good idea of how how good these

individualization approaches or

simulation methods are compared to the

real thing.

You know, I had to do it to him.

All right. So, we are back from London.

It's been quite the adventure.

>> It was uh it was a little bit more of a

day than we thought it was going to be.

I think uh we kind of had the assumption

that we were going to go in, get uh get

span around in a chair, come out with

some HRTFs, and that that that would be

kind of it. We put some headwinds on our

heads and measure them. Te

>> technically that did happen.

>> Technically it happened. Um

>> just not in the order necessarily.

>> Yeah. not necessarily in the order.

Luckily, we've got Griffin here doing a

bunch of wizardry to make sense of the

data uh and make sure that things came

out in the right way. And today, we've

been doing a little bit of testing uh

and so we wanted to talk about that a

little bit. Now, you should get

subscribed because most of that is going

to come in a second video, but let's uh

let's quickly go through. I mean, we

went to the lab and we'd seen photos of

it. We knew what we were in for, but I

think all of us walked in and kind of

went, "Wo!"

>> Yeah. It's a huge huge dome at the

Imperial College of London in the sort

of the Dyson Engineering.

>> The Dyson Engineer School of

Engineering.

>> Dyson Engineering Zone.

>> The Dyson School of Design and

Engineering

>> zone. The Dyson zone. We went to the

Dyson zone and we went to this enormous

>> turret type thing as as it is described.

>> But it's kind of weird because you look

at it from the outside and it's like

>> you would never suspect that there is

almost anoy chamber in that.

>> Yes. In this tower.

>> Yeah. at the top of literally at the top

of this this tower. Yeah.

>> Uh and it's quite quite cramped in

there. They've managed to pack this uh m

massive spherical array.

>> It was it was very impressive. And we

spoke to Neil's a little bit about some

of the other work that they do too

because they don't just uh take in

headphone reviewers looking to play with

fancy toys and get their heads measured.

>> Yeah.

>> Yeah. That doesn't that doesn't uh get

much research funding or anything.

>> No, no, not really.

>> So they Yeah, they have a lot of other

uh frankly just more complex uh projects

that they are working on. Uh it was

really cool to talk to him.

>> Folks, uh who are used to using

headphone measurements in the audio

communities, uh they uh they may not

realize this, but a lot of the those

measurements are useful because of the

work that you guys have done here.

>> Um and with the Sonic database.

>> Yeah. Um so as part of the measurement

system, as part of the HRTF system, we

also take the calculate the transfer

functions, individual transfer functions

of the headphones to the user. And then

you can use these individual functions

to compensate for any coloration that

the headphone may be applying. Now the

HRTFS that we generate are also useful

for um investigating differences between

different headphone sets. For example,

could certain headphones provide

beneficial uh characteristics for

localization? For example, the Sonic

database is one of one of the largest

open source HRTF databases. We have

almost 400 participants and it grows

every day and we can have a look at how

morphological variations affect um the

way that sound interacts with you.

>> So, shout out to Neil who helped us with

this.

>> Without spoiling too much, what uh what

do you want to tell them about what

we've done since getting back and doing

some fun testing? Actually, okay. We

should cried. Mostly cried, but we

should tell him about the auto EQ thing

because I think that's just We'll have a

we'll have a video on the auto EQ thing

because well, I think we should save

that for the for the next video. A

little bit. Go on. So, once we

effectively turned our heads into

microphones and got our HRTFs done, we

decided to put auto EQ to the test. We

took Cameron and put some headphones on

his head and and applied an auto EQ

profile uh to match the Harman target

and then showed

what the result was for his actual head.

And the results will shock you.

>> Yeah. Let's just say uh we didn't get a

Harmon result, neither on your head.

>> No. Yeah. Well, actually, so, so to me,

it's actually it's it's fascinating

because it's it's a perfect explanation

for why I typically find Harmon tuning

is a little bit shouty because it turns

out that what's going on is that when

something is tuned to Harmon on my head,

it is quite a bit more exaggerated in

that sort of like ear gain area.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Right.

>> But I I think the other thing is that

you know people fuss about headphone

frequency responses being super smooth

and adherent to the Harmon target when

all all the results we did showed that

actually on any of our individual heads

to get to the Harmon target it had to be

quite significantly different and

jaggedy. Yeah.

>> To the point where if you look at it

against you know just plotted against

the Harmon curve if you saw that

measurement online you'd think oh that's

a terrible looking headphone.

>> Yeah. And then the inverse if you got it

to to perceptually be like the Harman

target, it would not measure anything

like that on a on a on a grass or

>> Yeah.

>> No. Yeah, we did the opposite as well.

So yeah, what stay tuned for part two

because that video is going to be quite

interesting.

>> Yeah.

>> So obviously you've been in the UK for a

week now.

>> Um out of all all the things that you

guys have gotten up to, what would you

say is something that stands out? What

have you what has had you smiling?

>> I mean so not counting the turret lab

because that was I think for most of us

the highlight of the trip. Um, I had

been to London one time before, but it

was 70° and sunny, so I felt kind of

robbed of the quintessential London

experience. Um, so the day that Caleb,

you and I got to go to London and

explore uh felt like I was uh I was

fulfilling something that I had uh not

had a chance to really experience.

>> We are walking through a very dank, wet,

rainy street and it it just feels right.

It just feels correct. And yeah, we saw

a bunch of stuff. We walked along the

temps. We saw the Big Ben. We saw the

Houses of Parliament. We saw Westminster

Abbey. We saw Buckingham Palace.

>> Quite a bit of time in the British

Museum looking at all the stuff that

we'd stolen. Sorry about that.

>> Yeah, you guys did a good job of that.

>> See, this is the thing I don't

understand. People saying, you know,

Britain just took it without asking.

Look, see, we got permission. We've

we've checked with ourselves and we've

confirmed it's okay.

Yeah, that's me in 10 years.

Here we see a fine example of most of

the current alphabet. You'll notice the

omission of Y and Zed as at this time

those letters were under lensure

exclusive to the city of Toronto and the

band Rush.

Here we see documentation of the world's

first furies who of course went on to

rule and dominate the information

technology sphere. I mean

We we did take a lot of stuff. I'll be

honest.

>> There's There's quite a bit here that

isn't really ours.

>> This is room 18

of the ground floor.

>> Yeah.

>> First known instruction manual

for EQing your headphones to the harmon.

>> Many may not be aware, but the British

also invented the art of stealing things

from the ground.

I got to hang out with Cameron's mom.

>> No, it so like I I feel I feel like

>> that's got to go in the video.

>> It's got to go in there.

>> Oh, genuinely it was fascinating.

>> Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Just for a little bit

of context, my mother is a

prostheticist. Uh I think that's the

right term. Sorry, Mom, if I'm getting

that wrong. Uh, she does work for film

and TV. Uh, and as part of that, we're

looking at doing some things with her in

terms of building accurate replicas of

our head and ears and everything to do

further testing based on what we've got

today. The MRI scans that we did whilst

we were in California last year, uh, and

some other things which uh, we probably

shouldn't talk about just yet. She made

a baby.

>> Yeah, they're here right now.

>> She She made another baby.

>> I was not.

>> That is my real goodness.

Yeah, just just for the sake of YouTube,

this is not a real baby.

>> Oh my god, it's like heavy.

>> Yeah,

>> the birth of their children.

>> This is I like can't even comprehend

that

>> that's not a real baby. That's not a

real baby. I have to It's It's insane.

>> Yeah,

>> she Yeah. No, she I mean, she's my mom.

Uh but she's she's a very very talented

uh artist and prostheticist. Uh

engineer, I think, is probably the best

term to wild. It's terrifying. And so I

think there's there's some stuff which

we'll be able to do with her that is I I

think quite a bit beyond the you know

physiology of the other measurement rigs

and things like that and we'll be able

to look at some questions which have

been difficult to answer up until now.

>> Um I think you know I was telling these

guys but it it does feel a little

surreal that uh you know a week ago

we're all just kind of piled up in our

rooms and just being audio nerds right?

Um, and now we're all here together

chatting in front of the same table on a

very familiar backdrop. Uh, and it's

just a good time to kind of get get

everybody and, you know, not talk about

just really really nerdy stuff, but also

banter with each other and just, you

know, learn a bit from each other and

get inspiration in a different way.

>> I think we talked about a lot of nerdy

nerdy stuff.

>> We we absolutely still audio nerds.

>> I think this is actually groom talking

about

>> I think this is genuinely the nerdiest

thing that I've ever done in this in

this industry in this space. It's

>> certainly got to be up there. I kind of

want to put the MRIs up there as well,

but on No, this I think. Yeah. No, it's

it's been absolutely fantastic having

you guys here. I'm so glad that all of

you could come and I hope you've enjoyed

the UK.

>> We've made it very enjoyable.

>> It has been sufficient.

>> You deserve insane credit for everything

you've done for us here.

>> I'm glad you guys

>> It's been suffic. It's been

exceptionally okay, which is exactly

what we wanted.

>> Good stuff.

>> Yeah.

>> Well, we've got more coming. uh some

which we filmed today and some which

we're going to dive into a little bit

because as we found out today um some of

this stuff is a little bit less

straightforward or more time consuming

and there are some questions getting

raised as we answer others. So we'll be

bringing you along for the journey with

us on that. Stay tuned for part two

because we're diving into some pretty

interesting stuff. As always, if you

guys enjoy this kind of content,

remember to check out headphones.com the

next time you're in the market for a new

pair of headphones or audio gear because

they make it possible for us to do all

of this stuff. They're the ones who

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grateful to them for doing that. So

thanks to headphones.com and if you want

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And um till next time we will see you

guys later.

>> Bye guys.

>> Bye.

>> Cheerio.

>> I hate it. I I hate I hate