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Confronting Tim Pool: Trump, Andrew Tate, Tucker Carlson, Failure, and Success

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Andrew Tate is effectively the guy who's

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going to that young man who knows he's

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deficient and telling him get to work

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now is Tucker Carlson a leader

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there's like this view that being a

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follower is a bad thing I completely

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disagree it's from the get-go I was

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saying Trump lost this one your take on

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defunding the police then I'm in favor

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of it and against it at the same time

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it's actually really simple

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welcome back to another episode of the

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me Kevin show in this episode we have

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the opportunity to sit down with Tim

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pool we were just on his podcast make

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sure to check that out on culture wars

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but on culture wars I have a question

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for you now we're going to start with

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that we actually didn't talk about on

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yours Andrew Tate is Andrew Tate good

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for America or not

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I could I I don't listen to a lot of the

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stuff I've actually known him for like

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I've never met him in person but I've

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known him online for a very very long

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time

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I can't speak to these videos that come

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out where he says he did awful things or

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whatever what I can say is

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the stuff that I do see from him tends

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to be good

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but that could just be like selection

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bias do you think he's providing purpose

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for for younger men or is there

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potentially a dangerous purpose if

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there's this uh you know male

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masculinity you know toxic masculinity

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is is what the media likes to Brand him

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as

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that's tough Jordan Peterson I would say

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probably does a better job with purpose

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and masculinity

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but like that's kind of silly to say

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because Jordan Peterson's a button-up

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College you know Professor literally

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type and and Andrew Tate is a world

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champion kickboxer famous Bugatti

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driving all these things uh I I would

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say the messages that I've seen from

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Tate are a general net positive telling

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young men to work hard don't stop you

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know believe in yourself all that

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stuff's really good there was one viral

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video I saw where he says rocket ship

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going to the moon have to stop halfway

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to take a break it has to keep pushing

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Non-Stop and I'm like that's a good

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message

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but I know there's a lot of stuff that

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he's been accused of saying and I would

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I think it's just fair for me to say I

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don't know if I know enough about his

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full body of work for me to to give like

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a good answer

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what I can say is the general concept of

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teaching young men to be uh responsible

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hard-working and to embrace their

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masculinity is a good thing and the

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reason why so many young men are turning

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to him is because he's providing them

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with that that that vision and that

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leadership that they're lacking

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elsewhere

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is it our schools that are failing is it

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parents that are failing is it

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government that's failing who why why

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are they being failed all of them all of

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them yeah our schools are disaster I've

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always hated the public school system my

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experience with it was was it was

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horrible parents absolutely are failing

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uh the government the Department of

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Education is an easy example but come on

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we can give a million examples of

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government failure uh schools punish

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masculinity

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they this has been something since I was

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a kid the young boy who is fidgeting and

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wants to play is scolded and told to sit

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sit still and shut up a more feminine

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trait uh young girls are are you know

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they have a tendency towards calmly

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sitting and and you know being more

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agreeable young boys are fidgety they

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want to play sports they want to be

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physically active so I think especially

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with that meant that mentality

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you then graduate to you know the metoo

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movement era stuff and the culture wars

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where

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as one example of the uh of the failings

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that we see in schools and in the system

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there's this meme poster where it says

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you know John was drunk Jane was drunk

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they had sex Jane could not consent so

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John raped her and it's like well

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they're both drunk right that's so

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that's just one example of men are

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feeling beaten down insulted and left

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behind and our universities do it the

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reason I say parents are failing is

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because I've never liked the idea of I

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don't have kids so so you know look my

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opinion is ill-informed but I would just

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say

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handing off your children to an

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institutionalized learning facility to

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raise them what's actually happening is

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your children are being raised by other

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children

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the amount of time a child spends with a

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mentor figure in a school is minimal and

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the amount of time they learn from other

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children is very high

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so the behavior is I I saw this when I

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was growing up why is it that

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where I'm where I'm at in terms of uh

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Social Development is more responsible

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staying away from drugs and then this

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other you know girl in my neighborhood

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drugs gangs all that really bad stuff

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and it was because she learned from

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other kids

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right and so you know I spent time with

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my family at the family business where I

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was surrounded by adults

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and so the conversations I heard the

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lessons lessons I would be given

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and the hard work I was doing at my

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family business lended itself to how I

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viewed the world and how I behaved and

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the kids that I were around me

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my Social Development will be like I'm

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standing at a counter making a cup of

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coffee when a guy walks up and says I am

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sick of these Republicans and their

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religious blah blah and I'm hearing that

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conversation

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the kid in my class would spend all

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their time with another kid going

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did you see the new Eminem video

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they're learning from kids who also

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don't know whereas I was being

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influenced by adults who had you know

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different opinions and everything and

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their problems or whatever right yeah I

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think

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when it comes to parents

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kids need to be working with the parents

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they need to be speaking more with

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adults there's this viral video showing

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a bunch of kids in the 50s

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and the and the children seven or eight

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years old are speaking like 40 year olds

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about war and there's this little kid

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being like I'm quite concerned with

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what's happening with Germany the the

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invasion of Poland was quite startling

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to so many of us and I don't know what

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he said but everyone's like what is this

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it's because these children were being

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taught by adults to act like adults and

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so they did and the reason why we see uh

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children today acting like children is

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because the schools are just having kids

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learn from other children wow so a lack

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of leadership in the schools is there a

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potential that if if Andrew Tate is

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potentially the answer maybe or the

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counter to the metoo movement at what

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point does that become

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potential lack of respect towards women

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how do you balance that right right yeah

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so I don't want to say that Andrew Tate

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is the answer to the metoo movement nor

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that the metoo movement was entirely

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inherently bad

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you know women being abused or harassed

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and work is is horrible and the idea

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that they would speak up and call out

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awful people like you know Harvey

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Weinstein or whatever and uh a lot of

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these disgusting guys should be uh

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criminally charged for the criminal acts

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they did but what I mean when I bring up

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the metoo movement is that there were

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many stories of false accusations

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there was a uh the story of the mattress

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girl in New York where um

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she carried around the mattress got the

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cover of magazines and was featured and

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celebrated and then it turned out that

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uh the guy she accused

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she actually was lying about it I said

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that's what was reported it was reported

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text messages came out showing that she

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was begging him and desperately in love

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with him and he rejected her and then

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after he they hooked up she begged she

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begged him to stay with her he said you

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know I'm I'm not interested thank you

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though and then she immediately said

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then it was right

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and then turned it into this big PR

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campaign that results in a bunch of men

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being like I understand wanting to go

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after rapists but why are you lying

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about me and destroying my life and the

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the institutions were immediately just

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siding with the accusers which led to

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this this major uh you know

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anti-feminist backlash I don't think

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that agitate falls into that sphere

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necessarily I think Andrew Tate falls

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into the severe of young men are

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purposeless they're not finding

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relationships they're struggling to meet

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women they are uh physically weak

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mentally weak and they don't want to be

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they know their deficiencies they want

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to be better they want to be strong they

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want to be Superman Andrew Tate says

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he's he's like it you look why do people

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have physical trainers you could go to

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the gym and exercise on your own but you

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don't exactly know how to do what you

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need to do or how to get the motivation

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so people will hire a physical trainer

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to tell you no no keep going one more

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one more do it do it and then you're

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pushing it's like come on come on and

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then you get that last push-up someone

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to give you the drive and motivation to

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make you feel like this is the right

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path forward the leadership you need

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that's what Andrew Tate and Jordan

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Peterson both do entertain a different

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way from Peterson

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but Andrew Tate is effectively the guy

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who's going to that young man who knows

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he's deficient and telling him get to

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work now and then the kid's like I gotta

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do it and they can feel that people need

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leadership some people are leaders some

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people need leaders and there's nothing

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wrong with being someone you know

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there's like this view that being a

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follower is a bad thing I completely

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disagree you know why do we like dogs so

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much

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dogs are loyal yeah and uh there's that

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the famous story of Hachiko the dog you

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know the story of Hachiko

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keep it simple uh Japanese Professor

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adopts an Akita puppy

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uh one day when he's walking to the

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train station to go teach at University

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the uh Hachiko breaks out and follows

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him that started a tradition of every

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day Hachiko would walk with him to the

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train station and then when he was

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coming home Hachiko would run back and

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meet him at the train one day the

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professor had a stroke while his

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university and he died

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hashiko came to the train station and

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waited and the simple version is he

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waited for 10 years because he would not

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abandon his you know his friend and they

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say you know dogs need to know smell the

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death so that they can grieve

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uh they tried to remove Hachiko and

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rehome him he was always break out and

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he would always go back to that train

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station

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they built a statue in hachiko's honor

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that's why we love dogs so much because

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we know that they're they are there for

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us but they're followers so I think

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about some people are leaders Andrew

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Tate's clearly a leader and some people

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are followers

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I think about a great General that we

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Revere and we always need to remember

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that those soldiers who stood on the

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front line with that with that man were

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followers but they had some of the

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greatest courage to stand and face death

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for something greater than themselves

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so there's nothing wrong with being a

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follower

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but you'll need a leader you'll need

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someone to be that motivating force if

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you do not give young men a strong

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motivating force or you demonize them

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they will find it wherever they can

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and uh like I said I think Andrew Tate

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is uh based on what I've seen of him

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today I can't speak for any of the other

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stuff he said there's a lot of things

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that are controversial I don't know

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about

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some things that I said that are

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despicable

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but uh the matches I see for him today

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tends to be empowering for young men who

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are in desperate need of that

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perhaps if they have complaints about

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Andrew Tate and don't like it they

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should stop demonizing masculinity and

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provide real uh masculine uh I mean look

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even Jordan Peterson who's a fairly

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mild-mannered guy they called him a Nazi

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and far right and all that stuff well if

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you can't have Jordan Peterson you can

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educate so that's what you got to deal

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with wow great answer

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Tucker Carlson recently interviewed

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Donald Trump some say that Tucker

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Carlson was weak in his questioning in

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his interview

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is Tucker Carlson a leader

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uh yes

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Tucker Carlson but um he's absolutely a

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leader and there's no question about

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that but he's not on the same level as a

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trump or an Andrew Tate or even a Jordan

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Peterson

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and what I mean by that is there's

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probably a bunch of other names I could

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list Tucker is a a he's an he's an

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individual operator he does his thing

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he doesn't seem to be the kind of guy

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who uh wants to be in charge of everyone

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else he's just forward-thinking

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intelligent well-read understands a lot

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and he's conveying those ideas I'd

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probably put myself in a similar

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position to Tucker on the on the scale

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of leadership

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I'm I'm not here to be leading a charge

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uh in terms of like

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you know like obviously to a certain

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degree I I push more than Tucker

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probably does

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but I'm not running for office I don't

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want to be anyone's boss even though I

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am I'm not doing this that I can be in

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charge of a bunch of people but there is

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a degree of leadership that

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we're both engaged in without being the

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let me run this and let me fix this

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Jordan Peterson is is a culture Warrior

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leader a general in the culture War he

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goes online and he says

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here's what I think here's what's

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happening Tucker and I and Tucker

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obviously to it a hundred fold more than

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I do say here's the news we saw and

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here's what we think about it so you

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know where's Jordan Peterson sets the

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standard of this is the this is the

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issue and this is the history uh and

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that leads a lot of people in a certain

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direction and Trump says I Want To Be

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Your Leader vote for me

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someone like Tucker Carlson is more so

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like well you know let me let me talk to

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you about what's going on but you know

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I'm not going to tell you I'm not gonna

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take charge of your life you know can

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somebody like Vivek be a leader if some

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say he's just echoing or parroting what

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Trump says and potentially even a

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further way oh the fake is absolutely

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litter

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um he's new to the scene

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he many of his positions are untested

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he's not been in office but he is

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standing in front and uh the best

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example of leadership in this regard is

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there's the obvious semantic argument of

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yes he wants to be president

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so he's trying to be a leader on the

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debate stage when asked would you still

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support Donald Trump if he was convicted

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without hesitation vivek's hand goes as

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high as it can possibly go then Nikki

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Haley and then some men to the right and

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then finally Rhonda Santos looks to his

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right looks to his left and then half

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holds up his hand right that that image

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right there shows a lack of leadership

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lack of leadership versus leadership

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yeah Vivek was uninterested in whether

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or not people would like or hate him for

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his view on supporting Trump he knew he

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knew you can say that Vivek is just

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trying to appease Trump voters fine you

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can say he's just trying to Pony up to

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Trump absolutely but that means that in

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his mind he is definitive and he knows

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this is the move that must be made to

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win and he's not going to wait for an

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audience to clap Rhonda Sanders on the

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other hand was unsure

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so Ron may be saying he wants to be a

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leader but looking around to see what

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the temperature is before raising your

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hand is

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now I guess Ron's response was that um

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they had agreed not to do the hand

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raising thing and so it's interesting so

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when it happened he was like are they

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actually doing this

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doesn't matter it shows that he was

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caught off guard and I'm not trying to

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drag him for it maybe he was caught off

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guard but Vivek knew definitively the

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move that had to be made whether you

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like him or not right and so so a leader

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is the one who's going to decide I'm

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going to jump out head first to lead do

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we have a leader in the United States

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today

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well what do you mean I mean there's

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tons of leaders political uh Trump's a

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leader he's obviously you know he was

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the president he wants to be the

14:27

president and he has a loyal base that

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believes you know in what he's doing and

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uh they'll follow him for it Joe Biden

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is not a leader he's in the semantic

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sense we can make the definitional

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argument well he's the president so of

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course he's like yeah but come on he's

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he's all over the place uh he you know

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Mitch McConnell's not a leader despite

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the fact that he's literally leader

14:48

McCarthy it's it's ridiculous and and

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you know it it maybe he once was he was

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uh but he's not there anymore and so

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there's a lot of leaders

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Gavin newsom's a leader uh but you know

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there's gradients so this is not the

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political based in terms of your opinion

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as to whether they're a leader or not

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yeah no I mean Gavin Newsom is a

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governor so you have the definitional

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but he's also taking charge trying to

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win he wants to debate to santis he

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clearly wants to be president these are

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these are leadership qualities I don't

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like the guy sure uh to be to be honest

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Trump barely crosses the line for me in

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a lot of ways as well but I find uh

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Trump you know what I love about Trump's

15:28

dishonesty is like superficial and I

15:31

mostly don't care and his honesty is

15:32

groundbreaking his honesty is we're I

15:36

key moment in his in his presidential uh

15:38

uh term he goes he goes up to a reporter

15:41

and they're like you know what's going

15:43

on with uh you know we heard there's a

15:45

weapons trade deal with somebody oh it's

15:46

fantastic we're selling all these

15:47

weapons of Saudi Arabia we're gonna make

15:49

a ton of money it's going to boost our

15:50

economy and then you get all of these

15:52

anti-war leftists their jaws hit the

15:54

floor like he just admitted it he just

15:57

admitted this is what the United States

15:58

does we saw weapons to our to our allies

16:00

and then they oppress other people and

16:01

we and we do it for profit or when Trump

16:03

said we're going to keep soldiers to

16:04

protect the oil like I'll take it yeah

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uh Gavin Newsom is the more smarmy kind

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of guy who tells you what you want to

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hear and is actually just running things

16:13

into the ground but he's look you know

16:16

no one ever said a leader had to be a

16:17

good leader right that's a good point

16:19

there's good leaders there's bad leaders

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17:15

what do you think about uh individuals

17:19

responsibility

17:20

in wealth creation 100

17:23

I

17:26

you know for whatever reason

17:28

I don't like the idea of someone being

17:31

born into money and then acting as

17:34

though

17:35

they're worthy of it

17:37

but I'm not going to insult or deride or

17:40

discriminate because somebody was

17:42

inherited wealth I have a lot of friends

17:44

who are born into wealthy families who

17:46

are totally detached from the plight of

17:48

the working class and I have people who

17:51

were born working class who have lost

17:52

touch and I think it's fair to say

17:54

probably I and many others who have

17:55

found success lose touching to a certain

17:57

degree and uh you you it normalizes for

18:00

and you don't realize it

18:01

but uh when it comes to generating

18:04

wealth

18:05

it's you

18:06

you know

18:08

let's use a poker analogy I love poker

18:11

worst possible hand you can get when the

18:13

game starts is seven Deuce offsuit seven

18:16

two of two different suits two different

18:18

symbols the best is two Aces

18:22

the chance of winning with seven Deuce

18:25

against Aces is like 11 or 9 it's like

18:28

ridiculously bad I think it might be

18:31

like 12. oh you gotta get it straight

18:32

good luck yeah but you so so the reason

18:35

7-2 is so bad is that you you can't make

18:37

a straight between the two hundreds you

18:38

can't you're right you're one card off

18:40

exactly see I'm not the best poker

18:42

player right so two a pair of twos loses

18:45

everything a pair of sevens is going to

18:47

lose to half the board with two

18:48

different suits you can't make a flush

18:50

the gap between seven and two is so

18:52

great you can't make it straight the

18:53

only thing you can get is like if two

18:55

sevens hit the Border two two so you get

18:57

three of a kind it's really really

18:58

difficult but here's the thing doesn't

19:00

matter

19:01

you could have Aces

19:03

and I can have you can have the best and

19:04

I can have the worst hand

19:05

and then the first three cards come out

19:07

where Texas Hold'em Style

19:09

and it's uh four five six

19:13

and then the person holding the Pair of

19:14

Aces says wait a minute

19:16

someone could have a straight with four

19:17

five six actually I have seven yeah

19:19

three seven maybe yeah well I've got two

19:21

seven rights they don't know that and so

19:23

what I what I do is the person with the

19:25

aces they make a bet I raise I make a

19:28

bigger bet yeah and now they're like oh

19:29

he's got the street he hit it didn't he

19:31

yeah he flopped it

19:32

and they go I don't want to do this but

19:35

I think you hit it and they flip over

19:37

the Aces and fold them and then you flip

19:39

over the bluff

19:41

you gave up why even though I was dealt

19:44

the worst possible hand and you would

19:45

doubt the best I played it right and I

19:47

win the money

19:49

so that's that's the life lesson right

19:50

there and the simple one is we're all

19:51

we're all dealt different cards it's how

19:53

you play them that that determines it

19:55

that'd be fair if you played a game of

19:57

poker and every hand you got was seven

19:59

two you'd be miserable and you'd be

20:02

losing yeah and if every hand you got

20:04

was Aces you'd be winning yeah endlessly

20:07

and people would stop playing with you

20:08

sure so uh but but for the most part

20:11

there's a uh there's a study done in

20:13

poker they found that I think it's uh 75

20:15

or 75 to 80 percent of winning hands

20:18

were not the best hand wow 75 to 80.

20:23

yeah so that that means you're more

20:25

likely to succeed with a deficit at the

20:29

start it's it's you you can view it that

20:32

way from the surface

20:34

but it's more so poker is a game of

20:36

people not a game of cards yeah I got a

20:38

buddy who loves playing poker he knows

20:40

all the math

20:41

and then I played a ridiculous hand

20:44

three five suited really low hard to win

20:48

and then I won I won a couple hundred

20:49

bucks and he was like what were you

20:51

doing and I was like it doesn't matter

20:53

what I have it matters how they're

20:55

acting is the person making the bet

20:57

against me scared I'll give you an

20:58

example the other day uh I had three

21:01

four suited three three four of Spades

21:04

and the board came out something like uh

21:07

7 9 10 with two hearts

21:12

if there's three hearts a three of one

21:13

suit on the board someone could have a

21:15

flush pretty strong

21:16

so the other guy looks at the board he

21:18

makes a bet

21:19

I call

21:20

the next card comes out as a heart

21:22

he immediately pulls his head back and

21:24

then goes back down and I'm like you

21:25

don't got it

21:27

so then he checks meaning I'm not gonna

21:29

make a bet and then I say all in and I

21:31

push 300 in the middle and he goes

21:33

shakes his head and then he throws his

21:35

cards in the middle and I flip over the

21:36

bluff he showed me he was weak and so I

21:40

knew I couldn't beat his cards I had

21:42

garbage but I also knew he was scared

21:44

and I ended up winning you know a decent

21:45

amount of money I think it was like 150

21:47

bucks good for you but there you go

21:48

there you go poker analogy complete

21:49

that's the general idea if you're going

21:51

to succeed in this world

21:52

the uh I think it was um it was a TED

21:55

talk about this

21:57

they tracked all of these different

21:59

stories of success businesses that were

22:01

working

22:02

they found there is one aspect that

22:05

people had that was correlated with

22:07

success and it was not wealth appearance

22:09

it was perseverance wow there were

22:12

people born in the wealthy families who

22:14

lost it all they gave up there were

22:15

people born into poverty who never made

22:17

a dime and there were people who were

22:19

born into poverty who became

22:20

millionaires because they never gave up

22:22

wow and they said that was it and that's

22:24

that's what we're talking about a bit

22:25

before failure is an important component

22:27

of uh of of life

22:30

if you fail and then stop that's it it's

22:33

over but if you fail and keep going you

22:34

will succeed amazing Wow Let's clarify

22:38

this point too success doesn't mean

22:39

you're gonna be a Millionaire right

22:40

success could mean that you got a good

22:42

paying job and you're moving forward

22:45

success could mean that on the treadmill

22:47

of Life you've Advanced one foot

22:50

versus falling back behind and getting

22:52

dragged away

22:53

it sounds like it's very important then

22:56

for us as individuals to study people

22:59

and people skills why aren't we teaching

23:01

more of that in schools

23:03

yeah

23:04

I guess the idea is that kids learn to

23:07

socialize with each other in schools

23:08

it's one of the arguments they make

23:09

against homeschooling

23:10

but

23:11

while you will learn some basics of

23:14

human interaction without proper

23:16

guidance

23:17

you know a parent or parents to explain

23:19

morals to you it can go one of two

23:22

different I mean there's no guarantee

23:23

that the lesson you're trying to teach

23:25

sticks the way you're trying to teach it

23:26

are you a proponent of homeschooling oh

23:28

yeah absolutely will you homeschool do

23:30

you have children I do not um but

23:32

absolutely they will be homeschooled wow

23:33

uh but this also means that they we will

23:36

meet with local parents and the kids

23:37

will play with each other and learn to

23:38

socialize they'll learn from us not from

23:41

uh they'll learn some things from each

23:43

other because some things you know

23:45

humans have to learn to develop on their

23:46

own but they'll they'll learn behaviors

23:48

and manners from the adults around them

23:50

which we will try to have an outsized

23:52

influence on of course but uh you know

23:54

when that time comes I suppose that's

23:56

amazing uh a couple more questions

24:00

when on social media today one of the

24:03

reasons it seems like we have these

24:04

stronger Echo Chambers is that I once

24:07

invited actually potentially twice I

24:09

can't remember now but I invited Lauren

24:11

Southern on and uh we had a great

24:14

discussion uh and a lot of the

24:17

commentary I got was How Could You

24:19

platform this person what's your

24:22

response to this idea of platforming

24:25

someone when really you're looking for

24:26

their perspective and having a

24:27

discussion

24:29

I think that shows the weakness of what

24:31

we refer to as the tribal left

24:33

they can't defend their ideas against

24:36

their political opponents so they hide

24:37

from them it's just that their argument

24:39

they make is that by platforming Lauren

24:41

Southern you give space to her ideas

24:43

that means literally nothing to me

24:45

because if I bring someone on who has

24:48

bad ideas I will destroy those ideas in

24:50

real time if my ideas are weak and would

24:53

lose to my political enemies well you

24:56

can't platform them then think about it

24:57

this way they say if you platform Lauren

25:00

southern people are going to hear what

25:01

she says and then agree with her and

25:03

it's like so you're saying she'll be

25:04

persuasive and convince them of her

25:05

position and I won't be able to counter

25:07

it

25:08

there's there's no concern if I platform

25:11

someone I disagree with we had a uh you

25:14

know one guy on the show

25:16

that an absurd position on on abortion

25:18

uh this is this is I'll leave his name

25:20

out of it just so I you know so I don't

25:21

drag him but he said uh if a woman wants

25:24

to get abortion at any point she should

25:26

be allowed to oh wow any at any point

25:28

for any reason it's her choice and then

25:29

I said okay but what about meth

25:31

and he's like what I was like can a

25:33

pregnant woman do meth and he was like

25:34

well no because that intentionally kills

25:36

the baby and you see I'm like oops right

25:39

I'm not worried about this guy coming in

25:41

here because like I've had friends ask

25:43

me hey I'm going to debate this person

25:45

do you think this argument is good and

25:46

I'm like why do you need my opinion on

25:49

your opinion

25:50

do you believe what you're saying and

25:52

can you back up what you're saying and

25:54

if someone tells you something that

25:56

contradicts your view and proves you

25:58

wrong would you reject it

25:59

so I'm like there's no debate if I

26:01

invite one of these guys on my show no

26:03

one cares that I platform him because

26:04

he's allowed to be right

26:06

and so if someone comes in and says

26:08

women should be allowed to do this at or

26:10

otherwise I say okay you know that's

26:12

your opinion you're allowed to have let

26:14

me ask you the follow-up question then

26:15

based on that logical your your logic

26:17

logical view on this how do you feel

26:19

about this you give me a sound answer

26:20

I'll say that's fine you're allowed to

26:21

have an opinion you give me an illogical

26:24

answer and I still don't care sure you

26:27

know so when he said women can't do

26:28

method intentionally kills the baby I

26:30

said well hold on there a minute I I

26:32

didn't say haha I got you I said I don't

26:34

understand what you're trying to say

26:35

you're trying to say that women can

26:36

choose to term at the pregnancy whenever

26:37

they want

26:38

but if they take a drug that would turn

26:40

into pregnancy right

26:42

he's allowed to be right and if he's

26:44

wrong then he's wrong and if someone

26:46

comes on we've had a uh like Michael

26:48

Miles friends is a real good friend of

26:49

ours and he made an argument about

26:51

defunding the police and I said oh yeah

26:54

it's a good point I have an argument for

26:55

that he's he's allowed to introduce

26:57

information I didn't consider and if the

26:58

logic fits I'll say okay

27:01

so you know the platforming ideas is an

27:04

argument from people who want to win

27:05

political power without actually having

27:06

to be right

27:07

um

27:08

your take on defunding the place then oh

27:11

yeah we uh I'm in favor of it

27:13

and against it at the same time oh it's

27:16

actually really simple if a city like uh

27:18

San Francisco wants to defund the police

27:19

I don't care I don't live there and if

27:22

you're seeing rampant crime and the

27:24

rating of these stores and they're

27:25

locking things up shutting down CVS

27:27

shutting down Walgreens and it is

27:28

extremely disruptive you've got drug

27:30

problems and you think police should be

27:32

defunded who am I

27:34

to force my World Views and political

27:37

views onto your city I don't live there

27:39

I don't vote there

27:40

however personally I would never do that

27:42

where I live oh interesting yeah I don't

27:45

want to define the like I think policing

27:46

more funding what police need more

27:49

funding for for training

27:51

more funding for different departments

27:53

that handle different tasks the you get

27:55

the left response of we should have

27:56

social workers and my response is I like

27:59

a community outreach police that deal

28:00

with certain certain crimes I don't

28:03

think we need to send a body armor

28:05

wearing cop with a rifle to do traffic

28:07

control

28:08

and uh I asked the question why is a cop

28:10

doing traffic control armed

28:12

and uh like his gun could be in his car

28:16

the question people I got response from

28:18

conservatives saying yeah but what if

28:19

like a criminal shoots at him or

28:20

whatever and I'm like dude we've got

28:21

other problems if people are just

28:23

shooting at random people in the streets

28:25

and I think you have SWAT you have beat

28:28

cops you have traffic cops you could

28:30

have community outreach police that's

28:32

more funding more training and a

28:34

diversification of the department

28:36

I do think ultimately though the issue

28:38

isn't the police themselves it is uh

28:40

cultural it's the density of urban

28:42

populations

28:43

you live in a small town you've got 10

28:45

cops they know you yeah you get pulled

28:48

over the cop walks up and he goes Kevin

28:50

come on man what are you doing yeah you

28:53

know I'll give you I'm giving you a

28:54

warning right now but we're gonna like

28:56

if if I you know I'm gonna tell your

28:58

wife when I see her that you were

28:59

speeding again what do you think she's

29:00

gonna say you're going to be like uh

29:02

John please please please please I will

29:04

never do it again there's like small

29:05

town social components where we know

29:07

each other and and cop might not like

29:10

you it might be a neighborhood rival and

29:11

he's gonna be like Kevin yeah son of a I

29:14

what are you speeding for I'm writing a

29:16

ticket you know don't put this on you

29:18

live in a big city what happens

29:20

you're not speeding cops got a quota he

29:23

pulls you over walks over and says you

29:24

were speeding you God no I wasn't I

29:26

don't care and he throws you a ticket he

29:27

doesn't know he doesn't care about you

29:28

not part of his life and there's no

29:30

social ramifications to being a bad

29:31

person

29:32

this results in cops saying I'm not

29:35

going to deal with this because it's not

29:37

there's no there's no social

29:38

ramifications do you think that's

29:40

because then a lack of funding for

29:41

training or because of that social

29:43

disconnect which was more social

29:46

disconnect okay all right

29:48

you you got uh

29:50

you get a cop that thinks to himself

29:53

if okay actually let me give you an

29:55

example uh attila's gym in New Jersey

29:58

they tried to remain open they did

30:00

remain open during the coveted lockdowns

30:01

uh in this is in South Jersey this was

30:03

only a few miles away from where I lived

30:04

at the time

30:06

local police came out and said

30:08

we were instructed to shut you down

30:10

however we won't be doing it everyone

30:13

claps in cheers and the cops say we'll

30:15

be on our way

30:16

so the city calls in a neighboring

30:18

cities Department ugh and these cops

30:20

with smiles on their faces say

30:23

nothing we do here will have any effect

30:26

on my life other than getting paid baby

30:29

so they lock the doors pull people out

30:32

find them detain them and ain't nothing

30:35

you can do about it because

30:37

we don't live here okay I have police

30:39

power interesting yep unchecked police

30:41

power by a lack of

30:42

social awareness or however I mean

30:44

suppose social ramifications maybe body

30:46

cameras are helping then to a certain

30:49

degree but then you just get these

30:52

absurd scenarios like uh

30:54

I'm at Arbury and George Floyd where the

30:58

left turns them into their cause to

31:00

celebrate when the the context of those

31:03

stories is actually substantially more

31:04

confusing and chaotic than anyone

31:06

realizes of course it just gets turned

31:07

into Political uh nightmare but don't

31:09

get me wrong I think body cameras are a

31:10

good thing but uh video footage is

31:12

always just weaponized by media sources

31:14

for clicks and they'll show selective

31:16

footage they'll lie about it like you

31:18

know the Ahmed arbory's story is one of

31:20

the greatest hoaxes that they've

31:22

perpetrated on this country and it's

31:24

it's a nightmare scenario that is

31:26

allowed but what do you do you know

31:28

media narratives Dominate and if people

31:30

believe wrong things then bad things

31:31

happen two less quick ones guns more

31:33

guns or less guns more guns okay

31:36

optimism or pessimism going forward uh

31:38

optimism really Bud Light Target sound

31:41

of Freedom Richmond north of Richmond

31:43

the the those don't sound like

31:45

optimistic situations right now they all

31:47

sound pessimistic why are they

31:48

pessimistic uh well Richmond is talking

31:50

about the creation and political

31:52

Billboard Hot 100 number no no no I mean

31:56

that is great that is great because it's

31:57

and that's exactly the sentiment of

31:59

political corruption and frustration of

32:01

that or Target the negativism of of not

32:03

just more theft but also uh you know

32:05

let's break it down Bud Light took an

32:08

action that upset the public and the

32:10

public responded in a way that punished

32:11

them as a business they will have to

32:13

adapt to that's good or bad it's good

32:15

okay the will of the people matters okay

32:17

and these corporations can't just

32:19

destroy pollute lie cheat and steal

32:22

without oh I see what you're saying

32:23

you're optimistic that the people will

32:25

win in the end versus uh okay okay I'm

32:28

optimistic that yes yes

32:30

that the people are are pushing back

32:32

it's bad for those companies pessimistic

32:34

for them for society the elites who

32:37

don't like you yeah and want to exploit

32:39

you and run the show are losing grip

32:41

they're losing their control and what

32:43

we're seeing now is people waking up and

32:46

and realizing that all that is required

32:48

of evil to Triumph is that good people

32:50

do nothing

32:51

and so now good people are saying at the

32:53

very least I won't buy the products of

32:55

these companies and I don't like them

32:56

that's fantastic so with Richmond North

32:58

or Richmond it's people saying I love

33:01

this message and the industry being

33:03

smacked in the face by it they're going

33:05

to have to recognize this is coming the

33:07

cultural shift is happening and we don't

33:09

take kindly to corrupt Elites anymore

33:12

and Richmond north of Richmond's not a

33:14

left or right-wing message in the pure

33:15

sense but it's an anti-establishment

33:18

anti-elite message very American uh down

33:20

to earth message sound of Freedom the

33:23

the Grassroots success of that film that

33:25

people are willing to stand up for what

33:27

they believe in that shows that the the

33:29

era of apathy lethargy and ignorance is

33:31

is fading

33:33

that I think is really really good and

33:35

that makes you optimistic yeah because

33:37

it's gonna you know a lot of people kept

33:39

saying leave me out of it I don't want

33:40

to talk politics I want to watch sports

33:42

and there's pros and cons that come with

33:44

it apathy then they don't vote right and

33:47

the the the the pros of the apathy is

33:50

that there may be less fighting you know

33:51

people are not fighting the streets so

33:53

that's a bad thing that could happen

33:54

when people get more active But

33:55

ultimately if the people uh adhere to

33:59

their civic responsibilities then I

34:01

think the country dramatically improves

34:02

people start to understand each other

34:04

better and then uh we fix the problems

34:07

in you know and Corruption and

34:08

government should people always Vote or

34:10

their times where it makes sense not to

34:12

you should always vote I think I you

34:14

know and I I really hated Trump's fraud

34:17

narrative and his fraud message he he

34:19

was basically telling people not to vote

34:21

and it was the stupidest thing

34:23

imaginable and you know I was I I from

34:26

the get-go I was saying Trump lost this

34:29

one and it's really funny because the

34:31

narrative that these these political uh

34:33

organizations have to do to counter me

34:35

is to lie and claim that I supported

34:36

Trump's narrative which I did not Trump

34:38

uh the Republicans lost the Senate with

34:41

uh I think it was with Warnock because

34:43

Trump went out yeah and he told

34:45

everybody you can't win and I'm sick of

34:47

hearing people say what's the point of

34:49

voting they're cheating and I'm like

34:50

dude that's the cheating the cheating is

34:52

to convince you not to vote you need to

34:55

vote in such overwhelming numbers that

34:57

no amount of cheating could ever affect

34:58

you in any way so the path forward the

35:00

path of Victory right now is voting for

35:02

who believe in writing them in if you

35:03

have to but sitting back and being

35:06

defeatist I'm like look maybe you lose

35:08

the election but the only the only way

35:10

you actually lose is if enough of you of

35:13

you are convinced not to vote if every

35:16

single person in this country

35:18

who believe what you believe voted you'd

35:19

win a landslide amazing Yeah Tim Poole

35:22

thank you so much how can people follow

35:24

you uh I'm on X yeah at timcast and they

35:29

can go to youtube.com

35:31

timcastirl 8pm Monday through Friday

35:33

live we talk news in politics

35:35

congratulations man you have done so

35:37

much people love you people looked up to

35:39

you which I say yes meet Kevin where

35:42

does this mean we are in the economic

35:43

cycle should we be thinking about buying

35:45

real estate should we be thinking about

35:46

buying stocks I have a background in

35:48

real estate as a real estate agent real

35:50

estate broker real estate investor a

35:52

stock market investor and fund manager

35:55

why not advertise these things that you

35:57

told us here we'll try a little

35:58

advertising and see how it goes always

36:00

great to have you on Kevin half right

36:02

there financial analyst and YouTuber

36:03

meet Kevin

36:04

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