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Meta Reklamları Eskiden Neydi, Şimdi Ne Oldu? (Andromeda Öncesi ve Sonrası)

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Hi Ozan, how are you? Hi Doğu. I'm fine. How are you?

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I'm fine too. Last week in the office you said something like this: We

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're developing and implementing MetaAndromeda, but nobody else is. We need to teach what we've learned

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[music]. So what happened to the method? What changed? Well, if you remember from the meeting—

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or rather , we've been talking a lot about Andromeda in our

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Wednesday meetings for quite some time now—

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we're talking about creative marketing ideas and

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how to adapt them to this update, rather than just the technical aspects of the strategies. So when you said that, it just

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came up automatically. We need to explain this. It's not something that can be covered in one or two videos

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. We need to go into a bit more detail. Then we said okay, we'll do it. How should

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we do it? Should we explain it using screen recording?

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Or should we go with a Q&A session, etc.? We decided to go with a Q&A session

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. We decided to start with that. This is the first video. Let's start.

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Let's see. Of course, there will be things we need to show. We'll continue to show

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those things here in videos via screen recordings. So,

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if there's something visual while we're talking,

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we'll continue with examples to support what we're explaining. But this isn't something that can be done in just one or two videos.

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As you said, we also have a responsibility to teach what we've learned. So

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let's start explaining. How long will it take, how many weeks?

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Let's talk a little about marketing. I mentioned in the previous video that in 2026, we'll be on YouTube, and

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we'll continue teaching only the new things we've learned here. This is

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one of the important topics, and from what I've seen,

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it's not really understood. When you mention Andromeda, many people, many brands,

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when I look at their libraries, think they need to improve their ad creatives.

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Beyond that, from a technical and marketing perspective,

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they haven't delved into the details, as far as I can see. So

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I think we need to explain the technical aspects a bit. Yes. One video isn't enough, but

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what I've seen is that people don't realize what was happening before in the meta. What

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was happening before, and what did Andromeda bring? Before we answer that,

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we need to talk about this. If we think about the past, we actually

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need to look at the past. So, at the end of the day, Meta is a tool. It could be a TikTok ad,

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it could be a Google ad. Meta

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invested in its algorithm to automate what it previously did manually, simply to improve

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its performance. They physically

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integrated this into their servers and ad distribution processes. This essentially allows us

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to do the manual work of testing creatives

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based on target audiences to find the best way

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to show the right ad to the right person at the right time. Now, the algorithm can do this automatically

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the moment you upload the ad to your account.

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Naturally, this changes the way we approach things 180 degrees. If we

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continue to handle things the way we did before, we'll just burn more money.

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This doesn't mean that because it's also available on Andromeda, all the old strategies are obsolete

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. It's unnecessary. Why? Because when you do manual testing, you only focus

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on the tests that fail – and you know that if you try 10 things in ads, 9

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of them fail. There's no need for that. To use your budget more effectively

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, the way you launch campaigns, the way you think about ads,

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understanding your target audience, correctly addressing and highlighting personas, and

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knowing their market share have become crucial. This

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isn't a radical change; it's simply what should have been happening, now that technology allows it

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. Think of it that way. We used to make offers based on the steps of a prediction,

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we created ad strategies. So what's the difference now

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? What's changed? As I said, it's

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just the way we eat yogurt that has changed. Actually, the ultimate result, the ultimate goal is the same.

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Here, when we launch ads in the algorithm, we manually test single creatives

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and find concepts from those creatives, and

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find which target audiences they perform well with. This had to be done manually

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before. That manual process is gone. What does this mean? The more I

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diversify my creatives, the more different personnel I can include in the broadest segment of my target audience

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. In my target audience with the broadest demographic structure...

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By allocating the right proportions and budgets to different segments, and

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leaving it to the algorithm, I can spend my budget much more effectively and

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achieve much better results and campaign returns.

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That's actually the main difference compared to before. To understand this, you need to have a good grasp of marketing.

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Actually, positioning strategies, which we've already discussed on YouTube,

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have been a very positive update to how we do business.

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Things have become a little easier for us. This is where we have strong points

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. But while it was possible to differentiate ourselves technically before,

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it's become a little more difficult with this update.

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So, are the fun steps no longer necessary? Have the old videos become obsolete?

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Well, they're no longer necessary. It says here: Your target audience equals your

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new target audience. In fact, there was a sentence in one of the webinars: "New

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targeting is creative." New targeting or targeting equals creative.

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It means your target audience or targeting equals your creative.

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This means you should explain who you want to target in your creative

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. For example, in a product group X... In the previous video,

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I used clothing as an example, but

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you can't say to someone looking for clothes to wear out at night, "Click here to see my pants." At that moment,

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they're looking for dresses, not pants. When I say clothes, understand it as dresses.

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They're not looking for pants, they're looking for dresses. Therefore, you need to approach them with an ad tailored to their needs.

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You need to go into more detail and

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know which awareness stage each persona is at. Similarly, you need to create different messages for them and divide them according to these

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funnel steps. Does that customer know you?

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Have you ever interacted with them before, or do they not know you at all?

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You need to think about these funnel steps and your target audience in advance in the creative process.

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So, in the previous working system, was the algorithm

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punishing us for its own shortcomings? Let's not say it was punishing us, but

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as people managing the ads, we had to solve these issues. We had to

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analyze the numbers correctly, analyze the behavior of the target audiences correctly,

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and direct the next campaigns accordingly. But now,

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because the advertising distribution process has changed and become much more powerful,

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the algorithm can automatically decide

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which ad a person will see at what time from millions of ads.

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Therefore, the more variety we can increase in these auctions, the more

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people and personas we can reach, and consequently,

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the more we can increase our sales potential.

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Think of it this way in the previous year. You created an ad. Let's use the

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previous example. I always say this to compare apples to apples.

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For example, your creative has the season's trendiest dresses. But

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do all the people interested in women's clothing products

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have the chance to be looking for dresses at that moment? No. How was it before? It tried to reach

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people who were exhibiting similar behaviors to those who clicked on your dress product and interacted with your ad

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. The algorithm now already knows this in advance. Therefore,

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it gives you this freedom. If you know your customer well, you know that

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some people are looking for dresses, but others are looking for baggy pants. Some

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are looking for a certain type of jacket. Some are looking for a leather jacket, right? And

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there are specific reasons why they are looking for these things. The more specific you are in your message

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and the more variety you can provide in your visual pool, the better. Because yes, some people

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are different in terms of marketing message, product group, or personnel, but

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the types of content they are drawn to are also different. Some click more

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on real-world ads, while others click more on catalog ads

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. Some click more on visuals, and so on;

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you need to provide that variety in that area as well. When you do this, the algorithm rewards you.

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By simplifying and streamlining the campaign structure as much as possible, you reduce internal

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conflicts , and because you significantly reduce the possibility of

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your own brand and your own ads clashing,

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you can use your budget much more effectively. Let's say your main budget is 100,000 TL, and your

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daily budget for a brand is 100,000 TL. Normally, that might be 40-50,000 TL.

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While Turkish Lira is being wasted, if

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there isn't an opportunity in those 40-50,000 Lira ranges, or if creatives aren't producing good enough results,

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the algorithm can't afford to spend money on them. Therefore, this algorithm

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needs to understand that distribution processes are being done in advance in this update, and we need to focus much more on creative preparation processes

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. For example, in the last two years—

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I'm not counting this year much, I'll say 2023 and 2024—the focus in 2025

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was mostly on testing and establishing the most accurate structure. So,

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if we were working with 10 creatives in 2023-2024, we now

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need to work with 100 or 500 creatives. Of course, not every brand can adapt to this. That's why

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we're getting more successful results in brands that can adapt.

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Because when you look at it, the shooting side can't be achieved at the same speed in every sector

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, or the product stock side, or in a way, that's

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actually a disadvantage. If there isn't enough demand in your product line,

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if you're not getting enough sales on the algorithm and sales side, then

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managing that area becomes a bit difficult. Providing more variety requires more investment

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. The main solution there is to use AI tools, or AI visual and video tools, more

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intensively, and that's what we're trying to do with many of our brands. Yes. So

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, when we ask what Andromeda really is,

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we can say it's about showing relevant ads to the target audience.

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Showing relevant ads is fine, but

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the listeners need to understand it very well.

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Showing relevant ads at the relevant time and with the relevant product. Therefore, your creative needs to directly touch that person.

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They need to say, "Yes, exactly," when they see that ad. To achieve this,

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if you provide a lot of variety, you need to increase the number of those "yes" oils.

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It's not like the previous scenario. In the previous scenario, we could do these things individually

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by spending money. Now, that's not necessary. The previous scenario

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doesn't equal being completely wrong. These two need to be clearly distinguished. It's still correct, but

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it's not necessary. If you've worked correctly from the start, if you're sure about your creatives and, more importantly, your marketing

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efforts—who you're showing what to, when, and how often—and

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if you've produced and created these efforts accordingly, then

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there's no point in burning your budget or using it less effectively.

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Technology has advanced. We're still trying to do business with old technology.

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It's like we're trying to insist on it. There's no need for that.

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And the timing part is very interesting. What's the technical aspect of this? How does Andromeda

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understand this? How does it find out when to show it?

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I can say this about this: We already created a target audience beforehand, for example

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. People who follow Zara or X trend,

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people of this age and gender, or similar audiences, or a 1%

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similar audience to a specific audience. Here, what we were trying to do was

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to get the algorithm to do it, both with the optimizations we did

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and the campaign structure we created. Right now,

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because they've integrated AI into the ad distribution processes

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at Andromeda , the moment you upload your creative, it already analyzes it and

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the algorithm knows who that ad is suitable for even before you show it. By the way, these

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aren't just my personal opinions. Of course, Meta

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had plenty of webinars during this process. Both the information there and

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the hundreds of thousands of tests we've already conducted have led us to the conclusion

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that forcing the old methods won't yield any results

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. You might say, "Now, marketers

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really need to do marketing. They need to find those personas."

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Well, that's how it's always been. We were working that way, but largely

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because you inevitably see advertising accounts. Even if they're not our clients,

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you come across accounts. I see accounts.

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Many of them are still doing things the old way. I can say that comfortably. That's why

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we decided to film this series and explain it. Here, we're spending a lot of our time on this creative

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thinking process, marketing processes, understanding the target audience, understanding our product,

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understanding personas according to our product, extracting the right angles, and the funnel...

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We need to approach

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this issue by providing that creative diversity in our steps. What did you say at the beginning of the last question? You mentioned time. That

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time is already

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being achieved thanks to this GPU, the Hopper GPU, Nvidia's Hopper GPU, even before it's shown.

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Yes. It's clear why the price of graphics cards has increased. [laughs]

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You know about Nvidia's growth in the last 3 years with artificial intelligence

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. You mentioned the meta seminars earlier.

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There, they say creative equals new target audience.

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Yes. So what exactly is that?

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What exactly is it? As I said earlier, your creative

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should clearly explain which persona, which problem, which person it addresses.

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Therefore, while diversifying this creative pool,

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instead of focusing on the general public, we should focus on very niche target audiences in our creatives and

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our messages, and we should work on our creatives accordingly

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. In my opinion, our direct targeting

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shouldn't be based on this or that. Instead of targeting

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a very broad audience, like the trendiest summer dresses of 2026,

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we can focus on segments within the audience that seeks trendy dresses, while providing this variety. For example,

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the trendiest ruffled dresses of 2025, patterned dresses, or

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the trendiest satin dresses of 2026 – each

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appeals to a different audience, right? So, perhaps we should target

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more niche audiences in our creatives, even including our product purchasing and production processes

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. What did we do before?

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We tried to find this in the target audience section. There was the question, "Who would buy this product?"

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We created a target audience based on that question. For example, we'd say, "

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Show these creatives to 1% of the audience that bought a ruffled dress from our site in the last 180 days

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." Now, without needing that, we can think of it as a scenario where all the

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dress creatives are together,

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offering each one individually and leaving the targeting part

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to the algorithm, using a broad advantage targeting approach. I don't know

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if I've explained it clearly enough. So, when we're multiplying creative content,

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we're focusing on quality rather than quantity. Both are important;

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quantity is crucial. Extremely important. Because think about it, as we said,

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it's not enough to just say "trendy dresses." It's not just these dresses, or those dresses

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. This time, there's another audience focusing on fabric type, another

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message. Each of these messages has different funnel steps,

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air stages.

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There's an audience completely unaware of what you're saying ,

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people who are directly experiencing the problem in their own world. There are those who are aware of the problem, or

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another audience that is aware of both the problem and the solution. Therefore,

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it's necessary to develop separate narratives for each. This doesn't mean, of course,

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that you'll work so well in a best practice, perfect scenario, that

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you'll create so many creative variations that it's the most beautiful, most perfect scenario. As

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I mentioned in the meeting last week,

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in many of the big brands, the number of active, opened, and closed ads in their ad libraries has increased absurdly in the last 5-6 months

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. It has increased absurdly, and

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we have a similar rate in our brands as well. This actually stems from this: How much

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creative power do you have to appeal to a large audience? Of course,

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when you look at Nike, when you look at Adidas, they have the power to produce those creatives.

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They can make that investment, they can provide that diversity, or they already

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have many in their archives. Therefore, if you proceed knowing what you are doing,

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you will get the most effective result in the current algorithm. If your knowledge level is not yet sufficient in these areas

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, or if you don't yet know how to create creatives based on personas, A-stages, marketing messages

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, funnel steps,

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I think it is still more

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logical to continue with the old method. You need to know, but

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you should always know business, but you haven't adapted to this situation. What I see is that maybe in

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a shorter time, maybe a year, let's say 6 months, we need to learn these things effectively

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. We will explain each of these things.

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We'll explain the topics one by one. You can just say, "

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Hey guys, maybe instead of going straight to Q&A, let's

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explain topic X. Maybe that would be more sensible.

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Let's continue with the videos in a conversational style, but if something more intense

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needs to be shown, let's show it on screen." It can be complex too.

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We thought about it a bit more, so let's start like this. Because it's easier to consume.

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You can even consume this video on your way to work. Because we're explaining something with voice

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. The other one will be more like an educational video, so it

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's harder to consume. It requires a different focus, etc. Please ask your questions in the comments below the video

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. Speaking of difficulty of consumption, you're talking about it in detail, but

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will campaign designs also become as difficult as you say?

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On the contrary, campaign designs need to be simplified. Because, as I said,

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we don't even need to compete with ourselves anymore while doing these tests. We create a

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creative, work on it, and it doesn't spend any money. Just delete it,

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it doesn't matter. Even if it did spend money, it wouldn't bring anything significant anyway.

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We've tested this dozens of times. 100% yes,

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it's not that a creative who doesn't spend any money doesn't generate any sales, but I'd say that's the case 95-96% of the time.

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Therefore, at this point, the time you spend on advertising

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needs to decrease significantly. The time

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you dedicate to marketing efforts, targeting your audience, creating creative content, or

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introducing new products

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needs to increase considerably. Actually, it was like this before too. There's not much difference.

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Yes. Great news for those who like simplicity. So,

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can you briefly explain the new approach to advertising in a single sentence?

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Just one sentence? Just

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one. Then I can say this: We are now in an era where brands that best understand their customers,

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can generate emotional needs, and can build a community

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will have more successful marketing efforts

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. That's a long sentence, but it's just one sentence. So, in short,

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for the first video, we'll outline the main points, covering the before

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and after, etc., and

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we'll need to talk a bit about marketing, which is something we love doing. As you know, in our team meetings,

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we've been focusing more on testing and understanding advertising techniques for years

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. Because

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technology changes. It's always been like that. I even made a

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video a few years ago about how meta-ads, especially

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with the arrival of iOS 14, would go to a completely different place in a few years.

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The acceleration of artificial intelligence has further accelerated these processes. That

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's good news for us. We just

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need to interpret it correctly and play by the rules. It shouldn't be like the old days where a creative works, and then you just use

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the same creative for product B, product C, product D, and all the math

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is based on that. On the contrary, each

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creative needs to be diversified. Diversity is the most important thing here, the most

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important word. Knowing diversity and personas well.

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Knowing the brand's personas or the product's personas well and

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distributing them correctly across the funnel steps. Reals videos, visuals, catalog

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ads, influencer campaigns, UGC videos, product

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test videos, etc. By providing plenty of this diversity, you have the chance to improve your brand's advertising results much more successfully

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. This

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[music] was never possible before. Thank you.

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They call it marketing, but they're just marketing. [laughs] Thank you.

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See you. Next [music] videos. See you.

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