The Housing Market CRASH will *End* HERE.
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below now we've got to talk about the
housing market and the latest drama
that's going on in the housing market
first we already know that we've got a
lot of anecdotal evidence especially
from what we covered just the other day
of new construction home builders
alleging that home builders are
potentially rigging their current
contracts to make it seem like they
still have good contract flow to
manipulate appraisals to make sure their
existing deals that are already in
escrow actually close this is scary but
one of the big things that makes me want
to really pay attention to what's going
on in housing always starts with
mortgage rates mortgage rates and
housing are very correlated this should
be obvious but a lot of people don't
realize the connection for every one
percent that mortgage rates go up
buy your purchasing power Falls by 10
that's because your payment for your
Piti principal interest taxes and
insurance plus potentially HOA dues if
you have those actually end up going up
by roughly that amount now that's
because property taxes are usually based
on what you're paying for the property
right and uh then of course mortgage
rates are based on uh what's happening
in the 10-year treasury market and what
is the risk-free rate of return and so
that pushes up or down mortgage rates
and so mortgage rates have obviously
moved up from somewhere around 2.75
percent for a 30-year fixed rate
mortgage all the way now for somebody
with a 740 credit score let's take a
look at the latest data latest data
shows us survey says
6.442 now that has moved up recently as
the 10-year treasury yield has moved up
and this is a lot of reduced buyer
purchasing power now one of the things
that the real estate market really is
going for it is that there's very very
little inventory available in markets
right now for example example if I look
at the market in my neck of the woods
which is we'll look at the city of
Ventura for example what I like to do is
I like to regularly see okay how many
houses and how many condos are for sale
and I remember when I got in the
industry at the bottom of the last
housing market actually the market still
had a little bit to go down it still had
another year of pain when I got in so I
was still on sort of that downslope when
I got started in 2010 uh in 2011. what
you found was a lot of Agents were
panicking because there weren't enough
homes to sell and there were about 80
homes on the market at any given time
that was really deemed lack of supply
and what I found throughout my career
was that anytime that number ran up to
somewhere around 400 homes uh which let
me let me clarify that when we were at
80 homes I was actually already that was
closer to the bottom Market 80 homes on
the market was 2012. when I got into the
market there were about 400 homes on the
market so let me make that very clear
bad Market 400 homes on the market good
Market low Supply easy to sell
properties right prices going up 80
homes on the market that was like the
end of 2012 and that's when we really
started seeing a pop-up and so what I
like to do and you could do this very
simply in your neck of the woods is just
simply go to our like Redfin for example
type in your city and look at how many
homes are for sale in your area right
now we've got 98 homes for sale that's
pretty low that's pretty dang low so
inventory is still low this is something
that really has uh the real estate
market propped up now what's remarkable
about that is we are seeing months
Supply increase because fewer people are
buying because that buyer purchasing
power is going down and the big fear
moment that we've been talking about we
can get the latest update here from the
Redfin data center which just updated I
think actually this morning the latest
update from the Redfin data center is
that nationally median home prices are
stable at about 347 right now in the
last week of January going into the
first week of Feb worry a stable 347
hopefully moves up for people who own
homes but if it stays stable is very
soon going to start showing
year-over-year declines in fact in about
two weeks we might see this blue 2023
line cross over the black line and then
anytime that blue line is under the
black you're going to have negative
year-over-year numbers and I think in a
few months time that's really going to
start a media circus around oh my gosh
home prices are officially negative year
over year and that's going to make
people pretty nervous now if you own a
month's supply of homes over here
if you are a bull on the housing market
you want months Supply to come down if
you're a bear on housing and you want to
see housing prices come down you want
months Supply to stay elevated we ended
last year at about 12.9 weeks of supply
for the nation the year before that we
ended 2021 with about seven weeks of
Supply so already housing supplies
skyrocketed but right now weeks of
supply for homes is sitting at
16.4 more than double the level of
housing Supply based on how many people
are actually buying than we had
previously so even though there are very
few homes on the market
roughly you could factor in if housing
Supply stays stable you could roughly
say half as many people are actually
buying right now then would ordinarily
Buy in sort of an average market and so
that creates some red flags for the
housing market and potentially create
some opportunities to buy homes soon now
there are some markets uh that's because
we would think that maybe once we hit
sort of peak fear while mortgage rates
are still high there'll be some really
good opportunities to buy real estate so
for example if you look at Boise you
could see okay we have home prices let's
go back to home prices over here it's
just the Redfin data center you could do
this as well you go to home prices over
here go to median sales price and we can
see look at Boise dropping off a cliff
the more this blue line gets bad and
it's already under last year's line
we're already down 11 but imagine it
stabilizes at 434 and then you compare
up to this peak over here
434 divided by what is this number over
here 547
547 shows you declines of over 20
percent that's scary now if that
continues to go down that could be even
larger so where are areas that are
potentially leveling out well let's look
at Tampa Florida for example look at
this Tampa Florida actually is starting
to see home prices take up a little bit
which is great because if this blue line
could Trend above this black line you
might not ever have a negative month
over month read for homes in areas like
Tampa Florida Tampa Florida Miami are
getting insane amounts of inflows and
you might actually not have a housing
correction in Florida whereas in an area
like Boise you're absolutely likely to
have one and prices are still falling go
to for example Austin Texas opposite of
Florida what do you have in Austin Texas
negative prices year over year already
and so I think this becomes very
important for if you're looking to buy
real estate is you want to know in what
mark markets are you going are you
already negative or are you likely to be
negative soon San Diego seems to be
starting to try to form some form of
recovery here though even just looking
at at the end of November and December
over here the numbers are are not great
right we're still at Lowe's and so we'll
see if that can actually recover if you
go to let's say Salt Lake City let's
take a look at Salt Lake okay that's
interesting uh how about Utah okay fine
then we won't look at Utah for the
Redfin data there's got to be Utah in
here what if I just do SLC no Salt Lake
no okay fine then how about we go to
Phoenix
so if we jump on over to Phoenix
negative year over year right you're
already negative five percent year over
year and that gets worse when you're
over here so you've got a lot of markets
that have really corrected but then
there are markets that are still booming
and Florida seems to be one of those
markets that's still booming quite
substantially Seattle you have this
major massive hump over here it'll be
quite fascinating to see if this hump uh
ends up uh ends up negative if you get
any kind of stability over here so we'll
see personally I think a lot of it is
going to be driven by those mortgage
rates and again one of the things that
could be manipulating some of the data
that we're looking at right now is we
did have a lull in mortgage rates right
look at this lull in mortgage rates we
had a low in mortgage rates right around
February 1st maybe around yeah but
probably I mean here the way we could
probably look at this a little bit more
clearly just go to CNBC look at bonds
look at the 10-year and what do you do
when you look at the 10-year just go
back say about three months
and look at this yeah you had a lull in
mortgage rates around February 1st which
that aligns with what we're seeing here
now mortgage rates today are higher than
where they have been almost all of
January and the beginning of February so
it's possible you could actually see
sort of a micro double dip dare I say
those words uh if you go to the Redfin
data center over here
what do you have you could potentially
see going to median sales prices
you could potentially see a little bit
of a flattening and Recovery thanks to
mortgage rates being stable but
potential and even in Florida where
you're seeing that increase and then
potentially a double dip again should
mortgage rates stay stable High
so the longer those 10-year treasury
yields stay high the more pain you would
expect for real estate and if you
combine High 10-year treasure yields
with those year-over-year comps probably
going to have a little bit of a rough
spring
but if we can get through spring and we
start seeing real housing disinflation
in owner's equivalent rents and we start
seeing inflation decline dramatically I
wouldn't be surprised and this is sort
of my forecast of of what I see for the
housing market the following happens
so I think you potentially go through
this you have this down sort of
Correction of 2022 where home prices are
falling and they're falling as mortgage
rates are going up then you have
mortgage rates temporarily fall which
leads to a slight bump in home prices
because mortgage or real estate is very
sensitive to rates right this is
potentially your Jan Feb bump but if
rates stay high for longer like they are
now you're probably likely to see this
sort of continuation where we go back to
at least the lows of where we were here
potentially even a little lower as what
happens is you start lapping that year
over year fear right this is where you
get that march to May year over year
fear but come June July maybe even
sooner come June or July you're probably
going to see a substantial set of
housing disinflation drag CPI down when
CPI inflation starts plummeting I would
expect the 10-year treasury is going to
plummet very quickly so I would expect
over here the 10-year will probably
break three percent so that break on the
10 years is likely to happen that's my
opinion right so I think the 10-year
breaks three percent and that actually
leads to a support being placed under
the housing market and you actually see
your your slow and sustained rebound
back to home prices doing sort of their
usual three four percent perhaps I think
a lot of that is going to be dependent
on mortgage rates actually coming down
again by breaking three percent on the
tenure I think you're likely to see that
so the summer and spring might be
difficult because you've got to get
through fear and higher yields which
we're about to hit fear and you're in
higher yields uh in terms of the market
now and they seem to be pretty sticky
around this level they might be pretty
sticky at this level until the next fed
meeting which would be about March 22nd
uh but who knows they could also be
sticky through about May until we really
get that summer disinflation from from
lapping some of the owner's equivalent
rents so that's my thesis in timing if I
had to choose when to buy personally I'd
probably want to be looking at uh July
through December as my buy time I think
July might be when you have a lot of
most of the fear in markets but December
is just generally usually a good time to
buy because the people who are selling
usually have to sell right so that
really puts you somewhere between Q3 and
Q4 you know is it possible that that's
you know that Florida is already beyond
that bottom that maybe Florida bottoms
right here which ends up being something
like a December and it recovers from
there absolutely
personally Florida is probably uh not in
in my radar for buying anyway so uh that
that you know could work out for your
personal situation right you might be
more motivated now in Florida and later
if you're more West Coast you might be
more motivated in the second half of the
year there's just some Theses about
where the housing market would go and I
really encourage everybody to get
started in uh real estate I think the
easiest way to become a millionaire it's
the reason I called my course secret to
millionaire a real estate investor is I
actually think everybody can do it uh
people hear that and they're like you're
crazy man not everybody can be a
millionaire I'm like uh wrong like we
can because bread will cost fifty
dollars a loaf I'm just kidding as if
everything just inflates that much uh
but anyway no I'm very very optimistic
of that anybody who wants to become
successful in real estate can do it so
uh that's my take on some of the latest
regarding the housing marker
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