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♪ >>> THIS SUNDAY, FIRE AND ICE.

A FEDERAL IMMIGRATION OFFICER SHOOTS AND KILLS A 37-YEAR-OLD

SHOOTS AND KILLS A 37-YEAR-OLD MOTHER IN MINNEAPOLIS.

MOTHER IN MINNEAPOLIS. >> TRIGGERING OUTRAGE, PROTESTS

>> TRIGGERING OUTRAGE, PROTESTS AND NEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE

AND NEW QUESTIONS ABOUT THE TRUMP ADMIMINISTRATION'S

TRUMP ADMINISTRATION'S IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT

IMMIGRATION ENFORCEMENT POLICIES.

POLICIES.. >> IT WAS AN ACT OF DOMESTIC

>> IT WAS AN ACT OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

TERRORISM. >> I CAN BELIEVE THAT HER DEATH

>> I CAN BELIEVE THAT HER DEATA IS A TRAGEDY WHILE ALSO

IS A TRAGEDY WHILE ALSO RECOGNIZING THAT IT'S A TRAGEDY

RECOGNIZING THAT IT'S A TRAGEDY OF HER OWN MAKING.

OF HER OWN MAKING. >> TO I.C.E., GET THE [ BLEEP ]

>> TO I.C.E., GET THE [ BLEEP ] OUT OF MINNEAPOLIS.

OUT OF MINNEAPOLIS. >> I'LL TALK TO BORDER CZAZAR TM

>> I'LL TALK TO BORDER CZAR TOM HOMAN, AND MINNEAPOLIS MAYOR

HOMAN, AND MINNEAPOLIS MAYOR JACOB FREY.

JACOB FREY. PLUS CRUDE POWER.

PLUS CRUDE POWER. PRESIDENT TRUMP PLANS TO TAKE

PRESIDENT TRUMP PLANS TO TAKE FULL CONTROL OF VENEZUELA'S

FULL CONTROL OF VENEZUELA'S OILFIELDS FOR YEARS TO COME.

OILFIELDS FOR YEARS TO COME. >> WE'RERE TAKING BILLIONS AND

>> WE'RE TAKING BILLIONS AND BILLIONS OF OIL.

BILLIONS OF OIL. >> THIS IS AN INSANE PLAN.

>> THIHIS IS AN INSANE PLAN. THEY ARE TALKING ABOUT STEALING

THEY ARE TALKIKING ABOUT STEALI THE VENEZUELAN OIL AT GUN POINT.

THE VENEZUELAN OIL AT GUN POINT. >> I'LL TALK TO DEMOCRATIC

>> I'LL TALK TO DEMOCRATIC SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY OF

SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY OF CONNECTICUT.

CONNECTICUT. >> AND MIDTERM WARNING.

>> AND MIDTERM WARNING. PRESIDENT TRUMP PREDICTS HE WILL

PRESIDENT TRUMP PREDICTS HE WILL BE IMPEACHED IF REPUBLICANS DO

BE IMPEACHED IF REPUBLICANS DO NOT WIN THE MIDTERMS.

NOT WIN THE MIDTERMS. >> YOU'VE GOT TO WIN THE

>> YOU'VE GOT TO WIN THE MIDTERMS BECAUSE IF WE DON'T WIN

MIDTERMS BECAUSE IF WE DON'T WIN THE MIDTERMS IT'S JUST GOING TO

THE MIDTERMS IT'S JUST GOING TO BE -- I MEAN, THEY'LL FIND A

BE -- I MEAN, THEY'LL FIND A REASON TO IMPEACH ME.

REASON TO IMPEACH ME. >> JOINING ME FOR INSIGHT AND

>> JOINING ME FOR INSIGHT AND ANALYSIS ARE, NBC NEWS WHITE

ANALYSIS ARE, NBC NEWS WHITE HOUSE CORRESPONDENT MONICA ALBA.

HOUSE CORRESPONDENT MONICA ALBA. JONATHAN MARTIN OF POLITICO.

JONATHAN MARTIN OF POLITICO. JAMELLE BOWIE, OPINION COLUMNIST

JAMELLE BOWIE, OPINION COLUMNIST FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES AND

FOR THE NEW YORK TIMES AND STEPHEN

STEPHEN N STEPHEN HAYS, EDITOR OF THE

STEPHEN HAYS, EDITOR OF THE DISPATCH.

DISPATCH. WELCOME TO SUNDAY.

WELCOME TO SUNDAY. IT'S "MEET THE PRESS".

IT'S "MEET THE PRESS". >> THE LONGEST RUNNING

>> THE LONGEST RUNNING TELEVISION SHOW IN HISTORY, THIS

TELEVISION SHOW IN HISTORY, THIS IS "MEET THE PRESS" WITH KRISTEN

IS "MEET THE PRESS" WITH KRISTEN WELKER.

WELKER. . >> GOOD SUNDAY MORNING.

>> GOOD SUNDNDAY MORNING. PROTESTS ARE GROWING ACROSS THE

PROTESTS ARE GROWING ACROSS THE COUNTRY OVER PRESISIDENT DONALD

COUNTRY OVER PRESIDENT D DONALD TRUMP'S HARD LINE DEPORTATION

TRUMP'S HARD LINE DEPORTATION POLICIES.

POLICIES. IN MINNEAPOLIS THIS WEEK,

IN MINNEAPOLIS THIS WEEK, 37-YEAR-OLD RENEE NICOLE GOOD,

37-YEAR-OLD RENEE NICOLE GOOD, AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND MOTHER

AN AMERICAN CITIZEN AND MOTHER OF THREE WAS SHOT AND DMILILD A

OF THREE WAS SHOT AND DMILD A VEHICLE BY AN I.C.E. OFFICER

VEHICLE BY AN I.C.E. OFFICER CAUGHT FROM A NUMBER OF ANGLES

CAUGHT FROM A NUMBER OF ANGLES INCLUDING THE OFFICER WHO PULLED

INCLUDING THE OFFICER WHO PULLED THE TRIGGER.

THE TRIGGER. WE DO WANT TO WARN YOU, THIS

WE DO WANT TO WARN YOU, THIS VIDEO IS DISTURBING.

VIDEO IS DISTURBING.G. [ SIREN ]

[ SIREN ] >> JUST SO YOU KNOW.

>> JUST SO YOU KNOW. COME TALK TO US LATER.

COME TALK TO US LATER. THAT'S FINE.

THAT'S FINE. YOU HAVE [ BLEEPEP ] YOU WANT TO

YOU HAVE [ BLEEP ] YOU WANT TO COME AT US?

COME AT US? I SAY GO GET YOURSELF SOME

I SAY GO GET YOURSELF SOME LUNCH, BIG BOY.

LUNCH, BIG BOY. >> GET OUT OF THE CAR!

>> GET OUT OF THE CAR! WHOA!

WHOA! [ SHOTS FIRED ]

[ SHOTS S FIRED ] [ BLEEP ].

[ BLEEP ]. >> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS

>> THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION IS ASSERTING THE OFFICER ACTED IN

ASSERTING THE OFFICER ACTED IN SELF-DEFENSE WHILE MINNESOTA

SELF-DEFENSE WHILE MINNESOTA OFFICIALS STRONGLY REBUKE THOSE

OFFICIALS STRONGLY REBUKE THOSE CLAIMS ACCUSING I.C.E. OF

CLAIMS ACCUSING I.C.E. OF EXCESSIVE FORCE.

EXCESSIVE FORCE. >> THEY ARE ALREADY TRYIYING TO

>> THEY ARE ALREADY TRYING TO SPIN THIS AS AN ACTION OF

SPIN THIS AS AN ACTION OF SELF-DEFENSE.

SELF-DEFENSE.. HAVING SEEN THE VIDEO MYSELF I

HAVING SEEN THE VIDEO MYSESELF WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY DIRECTLY,

WANT TO TELL EVERYBODY DIRECTLY, THAT IS [ BLEEP ].

THAT IS [ BLEEP ]. >>>> I'M NOT SAYING THAT FUNDING

>> I'M NOT SAYING THAT FUNDING SOME OF THIS STUFF JUSTIFIFIES

SOME OF THIS STUFF JUSTIFIES CAPITAL PUNISHMENT.

CAPITAL PUNISHMENT. NOBODY WOULD SUGGESTST THAT.

NOBODY WOULD SUGGEST THAT. THE REASON THIS WOMAN IS DEAD IS

THE REASON THIS WOMAN IS DEAD IS BECAUSE SHE TRIED TO RAM

BECAUSE SHE TRIED TO RAM SOMEBODY WITH HER CAR AND THAT

SOMEBODY WITH HER CAR AND THAT GUY ACTED IN SELF-DEFENSE.

GUY ACTED IN SELF-DEFENSE. THAT IS WHY SHE LOST HER LIFE,

THAT IS WHY SHE LOST HER LIFE, AND THAT IS A TRAGEDY.

AND THAT IS A TRAGEDY. >> AND JOINING ME NOW IS WHITE

>> AND JOINING ME NOW IS WHITE HOUSE BORDER CZAR TOM HOMAN WHO

HOUSE BORDER CZAR TOM HOMAN WHO WAS THE ACTING I.C.E. DIRECTOR

WAS THE ACTING I.C.E. DIRECTOR IN PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FIRST TERM.

IN PRESIDENT TRUMP'S FIRST TERM. MR. HOMAN, WELCOME TO "MEET THE

MR. HOMAN, WELCOME TO "MEET THE PRESS".

PRESS". >> THANKS FOR HAVING ME.

>> THANKNKS FOR HAVING ME. >> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING

HERE. THE WORLD HAS NOW SEEN THAT

THE WORLD HAS NOW SEEN THAT VIDEO, THE PERSPECTIVE FROM THE

VIDEO, THE PERSPECTIVE FROM THE OFFICER, I WONDER, MR. HOMAN,

OFFICER, I WONDER, MR. HOMAN, WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THAT VIDEO?

WHAT DO YOU SEE IN THAT VIDEO? >> LOOK, IT'S TRAGIC, AND I'VE

>> LOOK, IT'S TRAGIC, AND I'VE SAID FROM MARCH THAT THE HATEFUL

SAID FROM MARCH THAT THE HATEFUL RHETORIC DOESN'T DECLINE THERE

RHETORIC DOESN'T DECLINE THERE WILL BE BLOODSHED.

WILL BE BLOODSHED. I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE, AND

I'VE SEEN IT BEFORE, AND UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS RIGHT.

UNFORTUNATELY, I WAS RIGHT. THERE'S BEENEN A LOT OF BLOODSH.

THERE'S BEEN A LOT OF BLOODSHED. LOOK, YOU HAVE TO PUT YOURSELF

LOOK, YOU HAVE TO PUT YOURSELF IN THE MIND OF THE OFFICER, ALL

IN THE MIND OF THE OFFICER, ALL RIGHT?

RIGHT? YOU'RE IN A CITY WHERE THERE'S

YOU'RE IN A CITY WHERE THERE'S PROTESTS, INTERFERENCE,

PROTESTS, INTERFERENCE, IMPEDIMENT LIKE THESE TWO LADIES

IMPEDIMENT LIKE THESE TWO LADIES WERE DOING BEFORE THE INCIDENT

WERE DOING BEFORE THE INCIDENT OCCURRED.

OCCURRED.. YOU'RE IN A CITY WHERE LAW

YOU'RE IN A CITY WHERE LAW ENFORCEMENT IS SPOPORADIC.

ENFORCEMENT IS SPORADIC. YOU HAVE T THREATS UP OVER 1300,

YOU HAVE THREATS UP OVER 1300%, ACTUALLY ASSAULTING I.C.E.

ACTUALLY ASSAULTING I.C.E. OFFICERS.

OFFICERS. YOYOU HAVE THE WOMAN BEHIND THE

YOU HAVE THE WOMAN BEHIND THE WHEEL OF A 4,000 POUND VEHICLE

WHEEL OF A 4,000 POUND VEHICLE AND AN AGENT GOING TOWARD YOU.

AND AN AGENT GOING TOWARD YOU. I TRULY BELIEVE THIS OFFICER, IN

I TRULY BELIEVE THIS OFFICER, IN HIS MIND, THOUGHT HIS MIND WAS

HIS MIND, THOUGHT HIS MIND WAS IN DANGER WHICH ALLOWS HIM TO

IN DANGER WHICH ALLOWS HIM TO USE LETHAL FORCE.

USE LETHAL FORCE. NOW, I'LL SAY THIS.

NOW, I'LL SAY THIS. LET THE INVESTIGATION PLAY OUT,

LET THE INVESTIGATION PLAY OUT, RIGHT?

RIGHT? THERE'S A LOT OF VIDEO WE

THERE'S A LOT OF VIDEO WE PROBABLY HAVEN'T SEEN THAT THE

PROBABLY HAVEN'T SEEN THAT THE FBI HAS THAT WE DON'T.

FBI HAS THAT WE DON'T. WHERE'S THE FORENSICS AND THE

WHERE'S THE FORENSICS AND THE BALLISTICS?

BALLISTICS?? THAT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED.

THAT HASN'T BEEN RELEASED. HOW ABOUT THE E OFFICER'S

HOW ABOUT THE OFFICER'S STATEMENT, HIS OWN STATEMENTNT?

STATEMENT, HIS OWN STATEMENT? WE NEED TOTO LET THIS PLAY OUT,

WE NEED TO LET THIS PLAY OUT, BUT WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT WE'VE

BUT WHILE WE'RE DOING THAT WE'VE GOT TO STOP THE HATEFUL

GOT TO STOP THE HATEFUL RHETORIC.

RHETORICIC. SAYING THIS OFFICER IS A

SAYING THIS OFFICER IS A MURDERER IS DANGEROUS.

MURDERER IS DANGEROUS. IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS.

IT'S JUST RIDICULOUS. IT'S GOING TO INFURIATE PEPEOPLE

IT'S GOING TO INFURIATE PEOPLE MORE WHICH MEANS IT'S GOING TO

MORE WHICH MEANS IT'S GOING TO BE MORE INSULTS LIKE THIS

BE MORE INSULTS LIKE THIS BECAUSE THE HATEFUL RHETORIC NOT

BECAUSE THE HATEFUL RHETORIC NOT ONLY CONTINUING AND IT'S TRIPLED

ONLY CONTINUING AND IT'S TRIPLED DOWN AND DOUBLED DOWN.

DOWN AND DOUBLED DOWN. >> MR. HOMAN YOU HAVE YET AGAIN

>> MR. HOMAN YOU HAVE YET AGAIN HERE TODAY SAID YOU WANT THE

HERE TODAY SAID YOU WANT THE INVESTIGATION TO PLAY OUT.

INVESTIGATION TO PLAY OUT. THIS IS SOMETHING YOU SAID IN

THIS IS SOMETHING YOU SAID IN THE IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH OF THIS

THE IMMEDIATE AFTERMATH OF THIS SHOOTING.

SHOOTING.. HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY

HOMELAND SECURITY SECRETARY KRISTI NOEM CALLED THIS A,

KRISTI NOEM CALLED THIS A, QUOTE, ACT OF DOMESTIC

QUOTE, ACT OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

TERRORISM. PRESIDENT TRUMP SAIDID RENEE GOD

PRESIDENT TRUMP SAID RENEE GOOD VIOLENTLY AND VICIOUSLY RAN OVER

VIOLENTLY AND VICIOUSLY RAN OVER THE I.C.E. OFFICER.

THE I.C.E. OFFICER. HOW CAN THE PUBLIC TRUST THE

HOW CAN THE PUBLIC TRUST THE INVESTIGATION WHEN THERE HAS

INVESTIGATION WHEN THERE HAS ALREADY BEEN THIS JUDGMENT

ALREADY BEEN THIS JUDGMENT PASSED DOWN BY THE PRESISIDENT D

PASSED DOWN BY THE PRESIDENT AND SOME OF HIS TOP OFFIFICIALS IN.

SOME OF HIS TOP OFFICIALS IN. >> LOOK, WE'VE ALL SEEN THE

>> LOOK, WE'VE ALL SEEN THE VIDEO, AND AGAIN, NO ONE KNOWS

VIDEO, AND AGAIN, NO ONE KNOWS WHAT WAS IN THE OFFICER'S MIND.

WHAT WAS IN THE OFFICER'S MIND. YOU DON'T.

YOU DON'T. I DON'T, NO ONE DOESES, BUT WE'L

I DON'T, NO ONE DOES, BUT WE'LL LET THE INVESTIGATION PLAY O OU,

LET THE INVESTIGATION PLAY OUT, BUT BOTTOM LINE, WHY ARE WE EVEN

BUT BOTTOM LINE, WHY ARE WE EVEN THERE?

THERE?E? WHY ARE WE IN MINNEAPOLIS?

WHY ARE WE IN MINNEAPOLIS? BECAUSE IT'S A SANCTUARY CITY

BECAUSE IT'S A SANCTUARY CITY AND A SANCTUARY STATE.

AND A SANCTUARY STATE. THERE IS A LIST OF 18 PEOPLE AND

THERE IS A LIST OF 18 PEOPLE AND THE DANGEROUS WORST OF THE WORST

THE DANGEROUS WORST OF THE WORST I.C.E. HAS TAKEN TO CUSTODY,

I.C.E. HAS TAKEN TO CUSTODY, MANY OF THEM, CHILD SODOMY,

MANY OF THEM, CHILD SODOMY, CHILD RAPE.

CHILD RAPE. IT'S NOT OKAY TO I IMPEDE AND

IT'S NOT OKAY TO IMPEDE AND INTERFERE WITH AN OFFICER.

INTERFERE WITH AN OFFICER. WOULD IT BE OKAYAY IF A CITIZEN

WOULD IT BE OKAY IF A CITIZEN IMPEDED AND INTERFERED WITH A

IMPEDED AND INTERFERED WITH A U.S. MARARSHALL WHEN ARRESTING A

U.S. MARSHALL WHEN ARRESTING A FUGITIVE?

FUGITIVE? NONO.

NO. IS IT OKAY TO IMPEDE THE FBI

IS IT OKAY TO IMPEDE THE FBI WHEN ARRESTING A TERRORIST?

WHEN ARRESTING A TERRORIST? THEY'RE ARRESTING BAD PEOPLE AND

THEY'RE ARRESTING BAD PEOPLE AND IT'S ILLEGAL.

IT'S ILLEGAL. WHAT SHE DID IS A CRIME.

WHAT SHE DID IS A CRIME. IT'S ILLEGAL TO IMPEDE LAW

IT'S ILLEGAL TO IMPEDE LAW ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND THAT'S

ENFORCEMENT OFFICERS AND THAT'S WHY WE'RE THERE.

WHY WE'RE THERE. >> WHAT MINNEAPOLIS OFFICIALS

>> WHAT MINNEAPOLIS OFFICIALS ARE ARGUING IS THE WAY THAT

ARE ARGUING IS THE WAY THAT I.C.E. OFFICIALS ARE CARRYING

I.C.E. OFFICIALS ARE CARRYING OUT THEIR DUTIES MAY BE ADDING

OUT THEIR DUTIES MAY BE ADDING TO THE TENSIONS.

TO THE TENSIONS. SECRETARY NOEM LABELED THIS AN

SECRETARY NOEM LABELED THIS AN ACT OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM.

ACT OF DOMESTIC TERRORISM. WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE?

WHERE IS THE EVIDENCE? >> BOTTOM LINE.

>> BOTTOM LINE. WHY ARE WE IN MINNEAPOLIS?

WHY ARE WE IN MINNEAPOLIS? >> DO YOU HAVE EVIDENCE THAT

>> DO YOU HAVE EVIDENCE THAT SHE'S A DOMESTIC TERRORIST?

SHE'S A DOMESTIC TERRORIST? >> THIS IS IMPORTANT.

>> THIS IS IMPORTANT. LESS OFFICERS IN THE COMMUNITY

LESS OFFICERS IN THE COMMUNITY IF THEY WERE IN THE JAJAIL.

IF THEY WERE IN THE JAIL. BOTTOM LINE, WE ARE FORCING THE

BOTTOM LINE, WE ARE FORCING THE COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR

COMMUNITY BECAUSE THE GOVERNOR OF THAT STATE AND D THE MAYOR

OF THAT STATE AND THE MAYOR SUPPORT SANCTUARY CITIES WHERE

SUPPORT SANCTUARY CITIES WHERE CHILD RAPISTS ARE RELEASED BACK

CHILD RAPISTS ARE RELEASED BACK IN THE COMMUNITY TO CREATE A

IN THE COMMUNITY TO CREATE A HUGE PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT.

HUGE PUBLIC SAFETY THREAT. IF YOU WANT LESS OFFICERS IN THE

IF YOU WANT LESS OFFICERS IN THE STREET, THEN LET US IN THE JAIL.

STREET, THEN LET US IN THE JAIL. >> I WANT TO TALK TO MAYOR FREY

>> I WANT TO TALK TO MAYOR FREY ABOUT THE POLICIES THERE, BUT I

ABOUT THE POLICIES THERE, BUT I WANT TO STAY ON THIS QUESTION

WANT TO STAY ON THIS QUESTION ABOUT THE WAY IN WHICH THE WOMAN

ABOUT THE WAY IN WHICH THE WOMAN WHO WAS SHOT AND KILLED IS BEING

WHO WAS SHOT AND KILLED IS BEING LABELED AS A DOMESTIC TERRORIST.

LABELED AS A DOMESTIC TERRORIST. TO BE CLEAR, IS ANYONE WHO

TO BE CLEAR, IS ANYONE WHO PROTESTS I.C.E. A DOMESTIC

PROTESTS I.C.E. A DOMESTIC TERRORIST IN THE EYES OF THE

TERRORIST IN THE EYES OF THE ADMINISTRATION.

ADMINISTRATION. . >> IT'S A CASE BY CASE BASIS.

>> IT'S A CASE BY CASE BASIS. IF YOUOU LOOK UP TERRORISM.

IF YOU LOOK UP TERRORISM. IS THERE VIOLENCE BASED ON

IS THERE VIOLENCE BASED ON IDEOLOGY THAT WANTS TO CHANGE

IDEOLOGY THAT WANTS TO CHANGE THE WAY --

THE WAY -- >> WAS SECRETARY NOEM RIGHT TO

>> WAS SECRETARY NOEM RIGHT TO LABEL HER AS A DOMESTIC

LABEL HER AS A DOMESTIC TERRORIST.

TERRORIST.T. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT SECRETARY

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT S SECRETAR NOEM KNOWS.

NOEM KNOWS. IF YOU LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF

IF YOU LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF TERRORISM, IT CAN FALL UNDER

TERRORISM, IT CAN FALL UNDER THAT DEFINITION.

THAT DEFINITION. >> YOU DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE THAT

>> YOU DON'T HAVE EVIDENCE THAT SHE'S A DOMESTIC TERRORIST.

SHE'S A DOMESTIC TERRORIST. >> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE

>> I DON'T KNOW WHAT THE SECRCRETARY HAS THAT I DON'T.

SECRETARY HAS THAT I DON'T'T. I'M NOT GOING TO JUDGE WHAT THE

I'M NOT GOING TO JUDGE WHAT THE SECRETARY SAYS, BUT IF YOU LOOK

SECRETARY SAYS, BUT IF YOU LOOK UP THE DEFINITION OF TERRORISM

UP THE DEFINITION OF TERRORISM IT COULD CERTAINLY FALL WITHIN

IT COULD CERTAINLY FALL WITHIN THAT, BUT WE'VE ALL GOT TO AGREE

THAT, BUT WE'VE ALL GOT TO AGREE THERE'S NO REASON FOR THIS

THERE'S NO REASON FOR THIS REASON TO DO WHAT SHE DID.

REASON TO DO WHAT SHE DID. THERE'S NO REASON TO B BE THERE.

THERE'S NO REASON TO BE THTHERE. IF YOU WANT TO PROTEST PROTEST,

IF YOU WANT TO PROTEST PROTEST, BUT DON'T ACTIVELY IMPEDE AND

BUT DON'T ACTIVELY IMPEDE AND INTERFERE AND CERTAINLY DON'T

INTERFERE AND CERTAINLY DON'T DRIVE A 4,000-POUND VEHICLE

DRIVE A 4,000-POUND VEHICLE TOWARD AN OFFICER.

TOWARD AN OFFICER. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT T THE

>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT THE BROADER INVESTIGATION BECAUSE

BROADER INVESTIGATION BECAUSE THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE

THAT'S PART OF WHAT THE INVESTIGATION IS TRYING TO

INVESTIGATION IS TRYING TO UNPACK IN THE MOMENTS LEADING UP

UNPACK IN THE MOMENTS LEADING UP TO THE INCIDENT AND AFTER WARD.

TO THE INCIDENT AND AFTER WARD. STATE OFFICIALS ARE BEING

STATE OFFICIALS ARE BEING EXCLUDED FROM THE INVESTIGATION.

EXCLUDED FROM THE INVESTIGATION. I WANT YOUR REACTION ON THE

I WANT YOUR REACTION ON THE OTHER SIDE.

OTHER SIDE. . >> I CANNOT OVERSTATE THE

>> I CANNOT OVERSTATE THE IMPORTANCE OF ANAN INVESTIGATION

IMPORTANCE OF AN INVESTIGATION OR AT LEAST ACCESSSS TO THE

OR AT LEAST ACCESS TO THE FEDERAL INVESTIGATATION BY THE

FEDERAL INVESTIGATION BY THE BCA.

BCA.A. WITHOUT IT, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE

WITHOUT IT, WE WILL NOT HAVE THE ABILITY TO BE TRANSPARENT T WITH

ABILITY TO BE TRANSPARENT WITH OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE RESULTS

OUR COMMUNITY ABOUT THE RESULTS OF THE EXPECTATION OR AS I SAID,

OF THE EXPECTATION OR AS I SAID, ANY DECISION THAT MIGHT COME OF

ANY DECISION THAT MIGHT COME OF THE REVIEW.

THE REVIEW. >> MR. HOMAN, I'VE BEEN TATALKIG

>> MR. HOMAN, I'VE BEEN TALKING TO LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERTS WHO

TO LAW ENFORCEMENT EXPERTS WHO SAY THEY HAVE E NEVER HEARD OF

SAY THEY HAVE NEVER HEARD OF STATE AND LOLOCAL OFFICIALS BEIG

STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS BEING CUT OUT OF A FEDERAL

CUT OUT OF A FEDERAL INVESTIGATION.

INVESTIGATION.N. HOW CAN THE PUBLIC TRUST THE

HOW CAN THE PUBLIC TRUST THE RESULTS OF THIS INVEVESTIGATIONF

RESULTS OF THIS INVESTIGATION IF IT DOESN'T INCLUDE STATE AND

IT DOESN'T INCLUDE STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS, THE PEOPLE WHO

LOCAL OFFICIALS, THE PEOPLE WHO ARE THERE ON THE GROUND?

ARE THERE ON THE GROUND? >> F FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A

>> FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS A FEDERAL CRIME.

FEDERAL CRIME. >> IT HAPPENED IN MINNEAPOLIS.

>> IT HAPPENED IN MINNEAPOLIS. >> IT'S A FEDERAL CRIME E AND TE

>> IT'S A FEDERAL CRIME AND THE JURISDICTION --

JURISDICTION -- >> I'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE

>> I'VE BEEN DOING THIS SINCE 1984.

198484. WHEN A FEDERAL OFFICER IS IN A

WHEN A FEDERAL OFFICER IS IN A SHOOTING, IT FALLS UNDER THE

SHOOTING, IT FALLS UNDER THE FBI.

FBI. IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOREVEVER.

IT'S BEEN THAT WAY FOREVER.. IT SHOCKS ME THEY HAVE THESE

IT SHOCKS ME THEY HAVE THESE OPINIONS NOW WHEN THEY STOOD

OPINIONS NOW WHEN THEY STOOD ASIDE AND LET CHILD RAPISTS BE

ASIDE AND LET CHILD RAPISTS BE RELEASED INTO THE COMMUNITY.

RELEASED INTO THE COMMUNITY. THEY'RE COMPLICIT OF WHY WE'RE

THEY'RE COMPLICIT OF WHY WE'RE IN A POSITION WE ARE TODAY.

IN A POSITION WE ARE TODAY. THEY'RE COMPLICIT WITH OPEN

THEY'RE COMPLICIT WITH OPEN BORDERS, WHEN MANY WITH PUBLIC

BORDERS, WHEN MANY WITH PUBLIC SAFETY THREATS.

SAFETY THREATS. THEIR ASSIGNMENT WAS TRAFFICKING

THEIR ASSIGNMENT WAS TRAFFICKING AND LOST TRACK OF 3300 OF THEM.

AND LOST TRACK OF 3300 OF THEM. >> IT'S ONE THING FOR THE FBI TO

>> IT'S ONE THING FOR THE FBI TO TAKE THE LEAD IN AN

TAKE THE LEAD IN AN INVESTIGATION, CERTAINLY, THAT

INVESTIGATION, CERTAINLY, THAT IS SOMOMETHING THAT WE ARE USEDO

IS SOMETHING THAT WE ARE USED TO SEEING, BUT FOR STATATE AND LOCL

SEEING, BUT FOR STATE AND LOCAL OFFICIALS TO BE CUT OUT

OFFICIALS TO BE CUT OUT ALTOGETHER, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE

ALTOGETHER, ARE YOU COMFORTABLE WITH NAH?

WITH NAHAH? WITH THAT?

WITH THAT? DOESESN'T THAT UNDERCUT THE

DOESN'T THAT UNDERCUT THE TRANSPARENCY AND THE FAITH IN

TRANSPARENCY AND THE FAITH IN THE EYES O OF THE PUBLIC?

THE EYES OF THE PUBLIC? >> THAT'S A QUESTION F FOR THE

>> THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE FBI.

FBFBI. I'VE NEVER WORKED FOR DOJ, BUT

I'VE NEVER WORKED FOR DOJ, BUT LISTEN, I TRUST THAT THE FBI

LISTEN, I TRUST THAT THE FBI WOULD DO A THOROUGH

WOULD DO A THOROUGH INVESTIGATION.

INVESTIGATION. THTHEY'RE PROFESSIONALS SO LET

THEY'RE PROFESSIONALS SO LET THEM DO THE INVESTIGATION.

THEM DO THTHE INVESTIGATION. >> SHOULD THE AUTOPSY BE MADE

>> SHOULD THE AUTOPSY BE MADE PUBLIC?

PUBLIC?? >> THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE

>> THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE FBI, BUT I CERERTAINLY WILL TELL

FBI, BUT I CERTAINLY WILL TELL YOU THAT THE FBI WILL BE PART OF

YOU THAT THE FBI WILL BE PART OF THE INVESTIGATION.

THE INVESTIGATION. AS I SAID EARLIEIER, LOOK INTO

AS I SAID EARLIER, LOOK INTO BALLISTICS, LOOK INTO FORENSICS

BALLISTICS, LOOK INTO FORENSICS AND WHERE DID THE FATAL SHOT

AND WHERE DID THE FATAL SHOT COME FROM.

COME FROM. ALL OF THAT WILL BE A PART OF

ALL OF THAT WILL BE A PART OF THE INVESTIGATATION.

THE INVESTIGATION. THE VICE PRESIDENT DEFENENDED

THE VICE PRESIDENT DEFENDED OFFICER ROROSS ON THURSDAY, I WT

OFFICER ROSS ON THURSDAY, I WANT TO PLAY A LITTLE OF F WHAT HE SD

TO PLAY A LITTLE OF WHAT HE SAID FOR YOU.

FOR YOU. TAKE A LOOOOK AT WHAT HE SAID.

TAKE A LOOK AT WHAT HE SAID. >> WHAT THE HEADLINE L LEAVES OT

>> WHAT THE HEADLINE LEAVES OUT IS THE VERY I.C.E. OFFICER

IS THE VERY I.C.E. OFFICER NEARLY HAD HIS LIFE ENDED,

NEARLY HAD HIS LIFE ENDED, DRAGGED BY A CAR SIX MONTHS AGO,

DRAGGED BY A CAR SIX MONTHS AGO, 33 STITCHES IN HIS LEG.

33 STITCHES IN HIS LEG. SO YOU THINK MAYBE HE'S A LITTLE

SO YOU THINK MAYBE HE'S A LITTLE BIT SENSITIVE ABOUT SOMEONE

BIT SENSITIVE ABOUT SOMEONE RAMMING HIM WITH AN AUTOMOBILE?

RAMMING HIM WITH AN AUTOMOBILE? >> DO YOU THINK THAT EXPERIENCE

>> DO YOU THINK THAT EXPERIENCE SIX MONTHSHS AGO THAT THE VICE

SIX MONTHS AGO THAT THE VICE PRESIDENENT DETAILED MAY HAVE

PRESIDENT DETAILED MAY HAVE IMPACTED OFFICER ROSS' JUDGMENT?

IMPACTED OFFICER ROSS' JUDGMENT? >> IT MAY HAVE.

>> IT MAY HAVE. HE WAS UNDER ATTACK ONCE WITH A

HE WAS UNDER ATTACK ONCE WITH A VEHICLE, SO CERTAINLY, LIKE I

VEHICLE, SO CERTAINLY, LIKE I SAID EARLIER.

SAID EARLIER. JUST IN THE PRIOR INCIDENT, BUT

JUST IN THE PRIOR INCIDENT, BUT THE ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW WITH

THE ENVIRONMENT RIGHT NOW WITH THE THREATS AGAINST I.C.E.

THE THREATS AGAINST I.C.E. OFFICERS HAVE BEEN SHOT AT.

OFFICERS HAVE BEEN SHOT AT. THEY'VE HAD MOLOTOV COCKTAILS

THEY'VE HAD MOLOTOV COCKTAILS THROWN AT HIM AND THEY'VE BEEN

THROWN AT HIM AND THEY'VE BEEN DOCKED.

DOCKEDED. ASSAULTS ARE UP 1300%.

ASSAULTS ARE UP 1300%. THREATS ALONE ARE UP 8,000% AND

THREATS ALONE ARE UP 8,000% AND YOU'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE THIS

YOU'RE IN A SITUATION WHERE THIS LADY THAT IS INTERFERING

LADY THAT IS INTERFERING ALREADY.

ALREADY.Y. HE'S IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION.

HE'S IN A DANGEROUS SITUATION. AGAGAIN, I WANT PEOPLE TO

AGAIN, I WANT PEOPLE TO UNDERSTATAND THIS.

UNDERSTAND THIS. PUT YOURSESELF IN HIS SHOES AND

PUT YOURSELF IN HIS SHOES AND PUT YOURSELFLF IN HIS SHOES WHEE

PUT YOURSELF IN HIS SHOES WHERE HE'S IN THTHAT ENVIRONMENT,

HE'S IN THAT ENVIRONMENT, ASSAULTS AGAINST THE OFFICERS

ASSAULTS AGAINST THE OFFICERS ARE AT N ALL-TIME HIGH, HE HAS

ARE AT N ALL-TIME HIGH, HE HAS A VEHICLE THAT ACCELERATES

A VEHICLE THAT ACCELERATES TOWARD HIM AND HE HAS A SECOND

TOWARD HIM AND HE HAS A SECOND TO MAKE THAT DECISION.

TO MAKE THAT DECISION. I TRULY BELIEVEVE, THIS WILL COE

I TRULY BELIEVE, THIS WILL COME OUT IN THE INVESTIGATION, THAT

OUT IN THE INVESTIGATION, THAT IN HIS MIND HE FEARERED FOR HIS

IN HIS MIND HE FEARED FOR HIS LIFE AND TOOK APPROPRIATE

LIFE AND TOOK APPROPRIATE ACTION.

ACTIONON. IN A FEDERAL LAW THAT'S A

IN A FEDERAL LAW THAT'S A LEGITIMATE RESPONSE.

LEGITIMATE RESPONSE. EVEN MINNESOTA LAW TALKS ABOUT A

EVEN MINNESOTA LAW TALKS ABOUT A VEHICLE COMING TOWARD YOU AND

VEHICLE COMING TOWARD YOU AND YOUR RIGHT TO DEFEND YOUOURSELF.

YOUR RIGHT TO DEFEND YOURSELF. THIS OFFICER, I THINK, IN HIS

THIS OFFICER, I THINK, IN HIS MIND DID THE RIGHT THING TO SAVE

MIND DID THE RIGHT THING TO SAVE HIS OWN LIFE AND THE LIFE OF

HIS OWN LIFE AND THE LIFE OF OTHERS.

OTHERS.. >> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE

>> YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT THE PERSPECTIVE OF I.C.E. . OFFICERS

PERSPECTIVE OF I.C.E. OFFICERS AND I WANT TO ZOOM IN ANAND TALK

AND I WANT TO ZOOM IN AND TALK ABOUT THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE

ABOUT THE PERSPECTIVE OF THE PEOPLE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY.

PEOPLE ACROSS THIS COUNTRY. THERE HAVE BEEN NINE

THERE HAVE BEEN NINE ICE-INVOLVED SHOOTINGS IN

ICE-INVOLVED SHOOTINGS IN SEPTEMBER.

SEPTEMBER.R. BY ONE COUNT, I.C.E. HAS

BY ONE COUNT, I.C.E. HAS DETAINED 170 U.S. CITIZENS.

DETAINED 170 U.S. CITIZENS. PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY ARE OUT

PEOPLE IN THE COUNTRY ARE OUT PROTESTING I.C.E.'S ACTIONS.

PROTESTING I.C.E.'S ACTIONS. HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY AN

HOW DO YOU JUSTIFY AN

♪ upset stomach, ENFORCEMENT STRATEGY THAT IS

ENFORCEMENT STRATEGY THAT IS MAKING PEOPLE FEEL SO UNEASY.

MAKING PEOPLE FEEL SO UNEASY. >> BECAUSE THEY WANT TO RELATE

>> BECAUSE THEY WANT TO RELATE I.C.E. TO TERRORISTS.

I.C.E. TO TERRORISTS. >> I'M ASKING YOU TO RESPOND TO

>> I'M ASKING YOU TO RESPOND TO THE PROTESTERS WHO SAY THEY FEEL

THE PROTESTERS WHO SAY THEY FEEL LESS SAFE ANAND CONCERNED FOR

LESS SAFE AND CONCERNED FOR THEIR NEIGIGHBORS.

THEIR NEIGHBHBORS. >> BECAUSE THEY'RE LOOKING AT

>> BECAUSE THEHEY'RE LOOKING AT MEDIA REPORTS THAT SAY I.C.E.

MEDIA REPORTS THAT SAY I.C.E. ARE TERRORISTS A AND THEY'RE

ARE TERRORISTS AND THEY'RE NAZIS.

NAZIS.S. THEY'RE USING THE TERM

THEY'RE USING THE TERM DISAPPEARING PEOPLE.

DISAPPEARING PEOPLE. I.C.E. HAS DONE THE SAME THIHING

I.C.E. HAS DONE THE SAME THING THEY'VE DONE IN FOUR YEARS.

THEY'VE DONE IN FOUR YEARS. IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I.C.E. IS

IF YOU DON'T LIKE WHAT I.C.E. IS DOING, GO PROTEST CONGRESS.

DOING, GO PROTEST CONGRESS. I.C.E. IS ENFORCING LAWS ENACTED

I.C.E. IS ENFORCING LAWS ENACTED BY CONGRESS.

BY CONGRESS. TO SAY ANYONE IN I.C.E. A

TO SAY ANYONE IN I.C.E. A RACIST, NAZI OR SECRET POLICE.

RACIST, NAZI OR SECRET POLICE. WHAT DOES THAT MAKE YOU?

WHAT DOES THAT MAKE YOU? YOU WROTE THE LAW.

YOU WROTE THE LAW. LET'S REMEMBER THE TRUE DATA,

LET'S REMEMBER THE TRUE DATA, 70%, APPROXIMATELY, IT GOES FROM

70%, APPROXIMATELY, IT GOES FROM 60 TO 70, PEOPLE THEY'RE

60 TO 70, PEOPLE THEY'RE ARRESTING ARE CRIMINALS BOTTOM

ARRESTING ARE CRIMINALS BOTTOM LINE, SOME IN THE MEDIA SAYS NO,

LINE, SOME IN THE MEDIA SAYS NO, THEY'RE NOT TRUE BECAUSE THEY

THEY'RE NOT TRUE BECAUSE THEY THINK DUI I ISN'T A CRIME.

THINK DUI ISN'T A CRIME. DID

DID D DUI KILLS 13,000 PEOPLE A YEAR.

DUI KILLS 13,000 PEOPLE A YEAR. IT'S A HUGE ISSUE.

IT'S A HUGE ISSUE. IT'S THE RHETORIC, THEY HEAR

IT'S THE RHETORIC, THEY HEAR I.C.E. IS RACIST AND THEY'RE

I.C.E. IS RACIST AND THEY'RE NAZIS AND DISAPPEARING PEOPLE

NAZIS AND DISAPPEARING PEOPLE AND THAT EMPOWERS THEM TO DO

AND THAT EMPOWERS THEM TO DO STUPID THINGS.

STUPID THINGS. >> LET ME ASK K YOU BECAUSE WE'E

>> LET ME ASK YOU BECAUSE WE'RE ALMOST OUT OF TIME.

ALMOST OUT OF TIME. I DO WANT TO GIVIVE YOU THE

I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU THE OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO

OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO LINGERING QUESTIONS ABOUT YOU,

LINGERING QUESTIONS ABOUT YOU, ASAS YOU KNOW IN AN UNDERCOVER

AS YOU KNOW IN AN UNDERCOVER OPERATION IN 2024, THE FBI

OPERATION IN 2024, THE FBI RECORDED YOU ACCEPTING A BAG

RECORDED YOU ACCEPTING A BAG WHICH WAS DETERMINED TO CONTAIN

WHICH WAS DETERMINED TO CONTAIN $50,000 FROM AGENTS POSING AS

$50,000 FROM AGENTS POSING AS BUSINESS EXECUTIVES WHO SAID YOU

BUSINESS EXECUTIVES WHO SAID YOU INDICATED YOU COULD HELP WIN

INDICATED YOU COULD HELP WIN GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS IN THE

GOVERNMENT CONTRACTS IN THE SECOND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION.

SECOND TRUMP ADMINISTRATION. I WANT TO STRESS THERE W WAS AN

I WANT TO STRESS THERE WAS AN INVESTIGATION THAT WAS CLOSED

INVESTIGATION THAT WAS CLOSED LAST YEAR.

LAST YEAR. THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAID D IT

THE JUSTICE DEPARTMENT SAID IT FOUND NO, QUOTOTE, CREDIBLE

FOUND NO, QUOTE, CREDIBLE EVIDENCE OF CRIMINAL WRONGDOING.

EVIDENCE OF CRIMINAL WRONGDOING. I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU AN

I DO WANT TO GIVE YOU AN OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THAT?

OPPORTUNITY TO RESPOND TO THAT? DID YOU KEEP 50,000 OR DID YOU

DID YOU KEEP 50,000 OR DID YOU RETURN IT?

RETURN IT? >> I'M N NOT GOING TO GIVE THIS

>> I'M NOT GOING TO GIVE THIS STORY ANY MORE AIR.

STORY ANY MORE AIR. BOTTOM LINE, I DID NOTHING

BOTTOM LINE, I DID NOTHING ILLEGAL, AND I DID NOTHING AND

ILLEGAL, AND I DID NOTHING AND THE FBI AND DOJ REVIEWED THIS.

THE FBI AND DOJ REVIEWED THIS. NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE THAT I DID

NO CREDIBLE EVIDENCE THAT I DID ANYTHING ILLEGAL BECAUSE I

ANYTHING ILLEGAL BECAUSE I DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL.

DIDN'T DO ANYTHING ILLEGAL. >> I'M NOT GIVING THE STORY ANY

>> I'M NOT GIVING THE STORY ANY MORE AIR.

MORE AIR. THIS IS AN ATTACK ON MY

THIS IS AN ATTACK ON MY INTEGRITY AND MY PROFESSIONALISM

INTEGRITY AND MY PROFESSIONALISM AND I'M NOT ADDRESSING IT AND

AND I'M NOT ADDRESSING IT AND THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE E FBI.

THAT'S A QUESTION FOR THE FBI. >> CAN YOU ADDRESSSS THAT IT'S

>> CAN YOU ADDRESS THAT IT'S BEEN RECORDED AND DID YOU KEEP

BEEN RECORDED AND DID YOU KEEP THE MONEY?

THE MONEY? >> $50,000 IS RIDICULOUS.

>> $50,000 IS RIDICULOUS. THE FBI'S CLEARED THIS.

THE FBI'S CLEARED THIS. THIS STORY KEEPS GOING ON AND ON

THIS STORY KEEPS GOING ON AND ON AND ON EVEN THOUGH I'VE BEEN

AND ON EVEN THOUGH I'VE BEEN FOUND THEY DID NOT --

FOUND THEY DID NOT -- - >> DID YOU RETURN THE MONEY?

>> DID YOUOU RETURN THE MONEY? >> I DIDN'T HAVE MONEY TO

RETURN. I DIDN'T TAKE THE $50,000 BOTTOM

I DIDN'T TAKE THE $50,000 BOTTOM LINE.

LINE. >> YOU SAID YOU DID D NOTHING

>> YOU SAID YOU DID NOTHING UNLAWFUL.

UNLAWFUL. WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THEHE FBI

WOULD YOU BE OKAY WITH THE FBI RELEASING THE REPORT?

RELEASING THE REPORT? >> T THAT'S A DECISION OF THE F.

>> THAT'S A DECISION OF THE FBI. >> IT MIGHT BEBE A DECISION OF E

>> IT MIGHT BE A DECISION OF THE FBI, BUT WOULDLD YOU BE

FBI, BUT WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE?

COMFORTABLE? >> I'M NOT GOING TO GET AHEAD OF

>> I'M NOT GOING TO GET AHEAD OF THE FBI IN THIS INVESTIGATION.

THE FBI IN THIS INVESTIGATION. >> ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, WOULD

>> ON A PERSONAL LEVEL, WOULD YOU BE COMFORTABLE RELEASING THE

YOU BE COMFORTABLE RELEASING THE RECORDINGS?

RECORDINGSGS? >> THAT'S THEIR DECISION.

>> THAT'S THEIR DECISION.. >> OKAY.

>> OKAY.Y. ALL RIGHT.

ALL RIGHT. MR. HOMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH

MR. HOMAN, THANK YOU VERY MUCH FOR BEING HERE.

FOR BEING HERE. >> THANK Y YOU.

>> T THANK YOU. >> WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT.

>> WE GREATLY APPRECIATE IT. >> WHEN WEWE COME BACK, DEMOCRAC

>> WHEN WE COME BACK, DEMOCRATIC SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY OF

SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY OF CONNECTICUT, JOINS ME NEXT.

>>> WELCOME BACK.

>>> WELCOME BACK. ANAND JOINING ME NOW IS DEMOCRAC

AND JOINING ME NOW IS DEMOCRATIC SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY OF

SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY OF CONNECTICUT.

CONNECTICUT.T. SENATOR MURPHY, WELCOME BACK TO

SENATOR MURPHY, WELCLCOME BACK "MEET THE PRESS".

>> THANKS FOR HAVING ME. >> THANK YOU FOR BEINGNG HERE IN

>> THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN PERSON.

PERSON.. YOU JUST HEARD MY CONVERSATION

YOU JUST HEARD MY CONVERSATION WITH BORDER CZAR TOM HOMAN.

WITH BORDER CZAR TOM HOMAN. HE LEANED INTO THEHE IDEA THAT E

HE LEANED INTO THE IDEA THAT HE BELIEVES THIS WAS AN ACT OF

BELIEVES THIS WAS AN ACT OF SELF-DEFENSE THEY HE DOES

SELF-DEFENSE THEY HE DOES BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE

BELIEVE IT'S IMPORTANT FOR THE INVEVESTIGATION TO PLAY OUT.

INVESTIGATION TO PLAY OUT. HAVING SEEEEN THE OFFICER'S CELL

HAVING SEEN THE OFOFFICER'S CEL PHONE VIDEO.

PHONE VIDEO.O. HOW DO YOU SEE THIS?

HOW DO YOU SEE THIS?S? DO YOU THINK HE WAS ACTING IN

DO YOU THINK HE WAS ACTING IN SELF-DEFENSE?

>> LET'S MAKE IT CLEAR. THERE'S NOT GOING TO B BE AN

THERE'S NOT GOING TO BE AN INVESTIGATION.

INVESTIGATION. THE VICE PRESIDENT HAS

THE VICE PRESIDEDENT HAS ESSENTIALLY ALREADY DECLARED

ESSENTIALLY ALREADY DECLARED THAT THIS OFFICER HAS ABSOLUTE

THAT THIS OFFICER HAS ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY AND IN FACT, , EVERY

IMMUNITY AND IN FACT, EVERY IMMIGRATION OFFICER HAS ABSOLUTE

IMMIGRATION OFFICER HAS ABSOLUTE IMMUNITY.

IMMUNITY. THTHIS IS THE MOST HIGH PROFILE

THIS IS THE MOST HIGH PROFILE AND MOST HEINOUS ACT OF VIOLENCE

AND MOST HEINOUS ACT OF VIOLENCE THAT HAS BEEN UNDERTAKEN, BUT

THAT HAS BEEN UNDERTAKEN, BUT THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN OVER A

THERE HAVE ALREADY BEEN OVER A DOZEN SHOOTINGS ALL ACROSS OUR

DOZEN SHOOTINGS ALL ACROSS OUR COUNTRY BY I.C.E. OFFICERS.

COUNTRY BY I.C.E. OFFICERS. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE WAY IN

THE BOTTOM LINE IS THE WAY IN WHICH DHS IS CONDUCTING ITSELF

WHICH DHS IS CONDUCTING ITSELF TODAY IS MAKING OUR COMMUNITIES

TODAY IS MAKING OUR COMMUNITIES LESS SAFE.

LESS SAFE. IT'S NOT ADDING TO PUBLIC

IT'S NOT ADDING TO PUBLIC SAFETY.

SAFETY.. I HEARD HIM SAY THAT THEY ARE

I HEARD HIM SAY THAT THEY ARE UNDERTAKING TARGETED ENFORCECEMT

UNDERTAKING TARGETED ENFORCEMENT ACTIONS AGAINST CRIMINALS, JUST

ACTIONS AGAINST CRIMINALS, JUST NOT TRUE.

NOT TRUE. THE VAST MAJAJORITY OF PEOPLE TY

THE VAST MAJORITY OF PEOPLE THEY ARE ROUNDING U UP ARE PEACEFUL

ARE ROUNDING UP ARE PEACEFUL IMMIGRANTS.

IMMIGRANTS. YOU'VE SEEN THE VIDEOS OF THEM

YOU'VE SEEN THE VIDEOS OF THEM WALKING THROROUGH PARKING LOTS

WALKING THROUGH PARKING LOTS ASKING PEOPLE WHETHER THEY'RE

ASKING PEOPLE WHETHER THEY'RE AMERICAN CITIZENS S OR NOT.

AMERICAN CITIZENS OR NOT. THEY ARE PUTTING CITITIZENS OF

THEY ARE PUTTING CITIZENS OF MINNEAPOLIS, CITIZENS OF THE

MINNEAPOLIS, CITIZENS OF THE COMMUNITIES THEY ARE I IN IN

COMMUNITIES THEY ARE IN IN HARM'S WAY.

HARM'S WAY. PERIOD.

STOP. THAT'S WHY THE MAYOROR OF

THAT'S WHY THE MAYOR OF MINNEAPOLIS SAYS I IF YOU WANT O

MINNEAPOLIS SAYS IF YOU WANT TO MAKE M MINNEAPOLIS SAFE GET OUTF

MAKE MINNEAPOLIS SAFE GET OUT OF MINNEAPOLIS AND THE SAME THING

MINNEAPOLIS AND THE SAME THING APPLIES TO COMMUNITIESES ACROSS

APPLIES TO COMMUNITIES ACROSOSS THE COUNTRY.

THE COUNTRY. >> LET ME ASK K YOU, BECAUSE

>> LET ME ASK YOU, BECAUSE YOU'RE P PROPOSING SWEEPING

YOU'RE PROPOSING SWEEPING REFORMS FOR DHS FROM REQUIRING

REFORMS FOR DHS FROM REQUIRING WARRANT, TO BANNING MASKS AND

WARRANT, TO BANNING MASKS AND LIMITING I.C.E.'S USE OF

LIMITING I.C.E.'S USE OF FIREARMS IN CIVIL OPERATIONS.

FIREARMS IN CIVIL OPERATIONS. DO ANY REPUBLICANS SUPPORT YOUR

DO ANY REPUBLICANS SUPPORT YOUR PLAN?

PLAN? IS I IT REALISTIC THAT THIS COUD

IS IT REALISTIC THAT THIS COULD ACTUALLY PASS, SENATATOR?

ACTUALLY PASS, SENATOR? >> REPUBLICANS NEED DEMOCRATIC

>> REPUBLICANS NEED DEMOCRATIC VOTES IN ORDER TO PASS A BUDGET

VOTES IN ORDER TO PASS A BUDGET FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND

FOR THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING

SECURITY AND WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT, I WOULD INITIALLY

ABOUT, I WOULD INITIALLY CATEGORIZE AS SWEEPING, RIGHT?

CATEGORIZE AS SWEEPING, RIGHT? WE'RE SIMPLY TALKING ABOUT

WE'RE SIMPLY TALKING ABOUT ESSENTIALLY GOING BACK TO THE

ESSENTIALLY GOING BACK TO THE WAY THAT I.C.E. WAS OPOPERATING

WAY THAT I.C.E. WAS OPERATING WHEN THEY CARED ABOUT LEGALITY,

WHEN THEY CARED ABOUT LEGALITY, RIGHT?

RIGHT?T? IDENTIFICATION OF OFFICERS.

EN

THAT'S SOMETHING THAT HAS BEEN STANDARD PRACTICE IN EVERY LAW

STANDARD PRACTICE IN EVERY LAW ENFORCEMENT AGENCY ACROSOSS THE

ENFORCEMENT AGENCY ACROSS THE COUNTRY.

COUNTRY.Y. CBP WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AT

CBP WHO ARE SUPPOSED TO BE AT THE BORDER PROTECTING US A AT TE

THE BORDER PROTECTING US AT THE BORDER OPERATING IN THE INTERIOR

BORDER OPERATING IN THE INTERIOR WITH NO TRAINING, HOW TO DEAL

WITH NO TRAINING, HOW TO DEAL WITH COMPLEX, URBAN

WITH COMPLEX, URBAN ENVIRONMENTS.

ENVIRONMENTS.. THAT'S BRAND NEW.

THAT'S BRAND NEW. WE HAVE TO GET A DEPARTMENT OF

WE HAVE TO GET A DEPEPARTMENT O HOMELAND SECURITY WHO IS

HOMELAND SECURITY WHO IS PRIORITIZING THE LAW A AND

PRIORITIZING THE LAW AND PRIORITIZING KEEPING PEOPLE

PRIORITIZING KEEPING PEOPLE SAFE.

SAFE.. YES.

S

IT'S REASONABLE FOR DEMOCRATS SPEAKING ON THE MAJORITY OF F TE

SPEAKING ON THE MAJORITY OF THE AMERICAN PUBLIC WHO DON'T

AMERICAN PUBLIC WHO DON'T APPROVE SAYING IF YOU WANT TO

APPROVE SAYING IF YOU WANT TO FUND THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND

FUND THE DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY OPERATING IN A SAFE AND

SECURITY OPERATING IN A SAFE AND LEGAL MANNER.

LEGAL MANNER. >> YOU TAKE ME TO MYMY NEXT

>> YOU TAKE ME TO MY NEXT QUESTION BECAUSE YOU POSTED

QUESTION BECAUSE YOU POSTED ONLINENE EARLIER THIS WEEK,

ONLINE EARLIER THIS WEEK, DEMOCRATS CANNOT VOTE FOR A DHS

DEMOCRATS CANNOT VOTE FOR A DHS BUDGET THAT DOESN'T RESTRAIN THE

BUDGET THAT DOESN'T RESTRAIN THE GROWING LAWLESSNESS OF THIS

GROWING LAWLESSNESS OF THIS AGENCY.

AGENCY. YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW GOVERNMENT

YOU OBVIOUSLY KNOW GOVERNMENT FUNDING RUNS OUT IN LESS THAN

FUNDING RUNS OUT IN LESS THAN THREE WEEKS.

THREE WEEKS. ARE YOU ACTUALLY WILLING TO SHUT

ARE YOU ACTUALLY WILLING TO SHUT DOWN THEHE GOVERNMENT OVER THESE

DOWN THE GOVERNMENT OVER THESE DHS PROPOSALS?

DHS PROPOSALS? >> THE QUESTION IS FOR

>> THE QUESTION IS FOR REPUBLICANS.

REPUBLICANS. ARE THEY WILLING TO SHUT DOWN

ARE THEY WILLING TO SHUT DOWN THTHE GOVERNMENT SIMPLY TO ENDOE

THE GOVERNMENT SIMPLY TO ENDORSE THE MOST LAWLESS DEPARTMENT OF

THE MOST LAWLESS DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY IN THE HISTORY

HOMELAND SECURITY IN THE HISTORY OF THE COUNTRY.

OF THE COUNTRY. BOTH COME TO THE DISCUSSSSION ON

BOTH COME TO THE DISCUSSION ON THE BUDGET WITH PRIORITITIES AND

THE BUDGET WITH PRIORITIES AND LET ME JUST GIVE YOU AN EXEXAMPE

LET ME JUST GIVE YOU AN EXAMPLE OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT.

OF WHAT WE'RE TALKING ABOUT. THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT IS

THE AMOUNT OF TRAINING THAT IS GIVEN TO AN I.C.E. OFFICER HAS

GIVEN TO AN I.C.E. OFFICER HAS BEEN CUT IN HALF BY THIS

BEEN CUT IN HALF BY THIS ADMINISTRATION, AND THE NUMBER

ADMINISTRATION, AND THE NUMBER OF DAYS S OF TRAINING THEY GET E

OF DAYS OF TRAINING THEY GET ARE 47.

47.. YOU KNOW WHY THEY GET 47 DAYS OF

YOU KNOW WHY THEY GET 47 DAYS OF TRAINING AS AN HOMAGE TO THE

TRAINING AS AN HOMAGE TO THE VANITY OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE

VANITY OF THE PRESIDENT OF THE UNITED STATES.

UNITED STATES.S. 47 DAYS OF TRAINING FOR THE 47th

47 DAYS OF TRAINING FOR THE 47th PRESIDENT.

PRESIDENT. WE HAVE OFFICERS ON THE STREETS

WE HAVE OFFICERS ON THE STREETS TODAY WHO ARE RECEIVING HALF AS

TODAY WHO ARE RECEIVING HALF AS MUCH TRAINING SO NO WONDER THE

MUCH TRAINING SO NO WONDER THE NUMBER OF VIOLENT INCIDENTS ARE

NUMBER OF VIOLENT INCIDENTS ARE GOING THROUGH THE ROOF.

GOING THROUGH THE ROOF. WE WANT A DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND

WE WANT A DEPARTMENT OF HOMELAND SECURITY FOR PEOPLE'S SAFETY.

SECURITY FOR PEOPLE'S SAFETY. >> YOU'RE WANT RULING OUT THE

>> YOU'RE WANT RULING OUT THE BATTLE FOR DHS REFORMS?

BATTLE FOR DHS REFORMS? >> THEY CONTROL THE HOUSE, THE

>> THEY CONTROL THE HOUSE, THE SENATE AND THE PRESIDENCY.

SENATE AND THE PRESIDENCY. IF THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK W WIH

IF THEY DON'T WANT TO WORK WITH

At least I checked Allstate DEMOCRATS AND SHUT DOWN THE

DEMOCRATS AND SHUT DOWN THE GOVERNMENT THAT'S ON THEM.

GOVERNMENT THAT'S ON THEM. THTHE LAST SHUTDOWN EVERYBODY KW

THE LAST SHUTDTDOWN EVERYBODY KW IT WAS THE REPUBLICANS THAT

CAUSED IT. >> SOME E DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN

>> SOME DEMOCRATS HAVE BEEN CALLING FOR YEARS S TO ABOLISH

CALLING FOR YEARS TO ABOLISH I.C.E. AND THOSE CALLS HAVE BEEN

I.C.E. AND THOSE CALLS HAVE BEEN RAISED AND AMPLIFIED QUITE

RAISED AND AMPLIFIED QUITE FRANKLY, AGAIN THIS WEEK.

FRANKLY, AGAIN THIS WEEK. WOULD YOU SUPPORT ABOLISHING

WOULD YOU SUPPORT ABOLISHING I.C.E.?

I.C.E.E.? >> OF COURSE YOU NEED A DOMESTIC

>> OF COURSE YOU NEED A DOMESTIC ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM FOR THE

ENFORCEMENT MECHANISM FOR THE IMMIGRATION LAWS IN THE COUNTRY,

IMMIGRATION LAWS IN THE COUNTRY, BUT THE WAY I.C.E. IS OPERATING

BUT THE WAY I.C.E. IS OPERATING TODAY IS INHUMANE AND ILLEGAL.

TODAY IS INHUMANE AND ILLEGAL. THEY ROUNDED UP A 16-YEAR-OLD

THEY ROUNDED UP A 16-YEAR-OLD KID IN CONNECTICUT WEEKS BEFORE

KID IN CONNECTICUT WEEKS BEFORE HE WAS ABOUT TO GRADUATE IN THE

HE WAS ABOUT TO GRADUATE IN THE COUNTRY LEGALLY AND PUT HIM INTO

COUNTRY LEGALLY AND PUT HIM INTO DETENTION SIX MONTHS AND HE GOT

DETENTION SIX MONTHS AND HE GOT LET OUT RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS

LET OUT RIGHT BEFORE CHRISTMAS BECAUSE THE ADMINISTSTRATION

BECAUSE THE ADMINISTRATION WOULDN'T SHOW UP IN COCOURT TO

WOULDN'T SHOW UP IN COURT TO DEFEND WHAT THEY H HAD DONE.

DEFEND WHAT THEY HAD DONE. THAT IS HAPPENING THOUSANDS OF

THAT IS HAPPENING THOUSANDS OF TIMES OVER IN THIS C COUNTRY.

TIMES OVER IN THIS COUNTRY. PEACEFUL, LEGAL IMMIGRANTS BEING

PEACEFUL, LEGAL IMMIGRANTS BEING PUT IN DETENTION.

PUT IN DETENTION. THAT'S NOT A SYSTEM THAT ANYBODY

THAT'S NOT A SYSTEM THAT ANYBODY IN THIS COUNTRY WANTS TO FUND.

IN THIS COUNTRY WANTS TO FUND. >> YOU HAVE WAGED A NUMBER OF

>> YOU HAVE WAGED A NUMBER OF CRITICISMS AGAINST THIS

CRITICISMS AGAINST THIS ADMINISTRATION.

ADMINISTRATION. NANCY POLICES WAS ASKED IN

NANCY POLICES WAS ASKED IN DECEMBER WHETHER DEMOCRATS

DECEMBER WHETHER DEMOCRATS SHOULD PUT IMPEACHMENT TALKS

SHOULD PUT IMPEACHMENT TALKS BACK ON THE TABLE FOR THE

BACK ON THE TABLE FOR THE PRESIDENT IF THEY, IN FACT, TAKE

PRESIDENT IF THEY, IN FACT, TAKE BACK THE HOUSE.

BACK THE HOUSE. SHE SUGGESTED THE E PRESIDENT HD

SHE SUGGESTED THE PRESIDENT HAD NOT YET CROSSED THE LINENE THAT

NOT YET CROSSED THE LINE THAT WOULD TRIGGER IMPEACHMENT.

WOULD TRIGGER IMPEACHMENT. DO YOU AGREE WITH HER?

DO YOU AGREE WITH HER? >> AS YOU KNOW, I WOULD D BE A

>> AS YOU KNOW, I WOULD BE A JUROR IN AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL SO

JUROR IN AN IMPEACHMENT TRIAL SO I DON'T GENERALLY GIVE ADVICE TO

I DON'T GENERALLY GIVE ADVICE TO THE HOUSE ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY

THE HOUSE ON WHETHER OR NOT THEY SHOULD IMPEACH, BUT LISTEN, I

SHOULD IMPEACH, BUT LISTEN, I HAVE COMMON SENSE.

HAVE COMMON SENSE. I KNOW THAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS

I KNOW THAT THIS PRESIDENT HAS COMMITTED TEN TIMES MORE

COMMITTED TEN TIMES MORE IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES IN HIS

IMPEACHABLE OFFENSES IN HIS SECOND TERM AS HE DID IN HIS

SECOND TERM AS HE DID IN HIS FIRST TERM.

FIRST TERM. HE IS STEALING F FROM THE AMERIN

HE IS STEALING FROM THE AMERICAN PEOPLE.

PEOPLE. THE AMOUNT OF CORRUPTION THAT HE

THE AMOUNT OF CORRUPTION T THATE IS INVOLVED IN, TAKING A LUXURY

IS INVOLVED IN, TAKING A LUXURY PRIVATE JET FROM QATAR, TRADING

PRIVATE JET FROM QATAR, TRADING NATIONAL SECURITY SECRETS TO A

NATIONAL SECURITY SECRETS TO A FOREIGN NATION IN EXCHANGE FOR A

FOREIGN NATION IN EXCHANGE FOR A $2 BILLION INVESTMENT IN HIS

$2 BILLION INVESTMENT IN HIS CRYPTOCURRENCY.

CRYPTOCURRENCY.. THAT IS WILDLY CORRUPT.

THAT IS WILDLY CORRUPT. THE HOUSE WILL MAKE THEIR OWN

THE HOUSE WILL MAKE THEIR OWN DETERMRMINATION, BUT I DON'T THK

DETERMINATION, BUT I DONON'T THK IT'S NO SECRET THAT THE LEVEL OF

IT'S NO SECRET THAT THE LEVEL OF CORRUPTION AND LEGEGALITY IS

CORRUPTION AND LEGALITY IS NUCLEAR GRADE IN HISIS SECOND TM

NUCLEAR GRADE IN HIS SECOND TERM COMPARED TO HIS FIRST TERM.

COMPARED TO HIS FIRST TERM. >> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOYOU DISAGREE

>> IT SOUNDS LIKE YOU DISAGREE WITH NANCY PELOSI.

WITH NANCY PELOSI. LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT VENEZUELA.

LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT VENEZUELA. YOU HAVE CALLED NICOLAS MADURO

YOU HAVE CALLED NICOLAS MADURO AN ILLEGITIMATE LEADER.

AN ILLEGITIMATE LEADER. YOU WROTE, GETTING RID OF MADURO

YOU WROTE, GETTING RID OF MADURO IS GOOD FOR THE UNITED STATES.

IS GOOD FOR THE UNITED STATES. IS VENEZUELA BETTER OFF WITHOUT

IS VENEZUELA BETTER OFF WITHOUT NICOLAS MADURO?

NICOLAS MADURO? DO YOU GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION

DO YOU GIVE THE ADMINISTRATION CREDIT FOR THAT.

CREDIT FOR THAT. >> MADURO IS AN ILLEGITIMATE

>> MADURO IS AN ILLEGITIMATE LEADER AND PUTIN IS AN

LEADER AND PUTIN IS AN ILLEGITIMATE LEADER.

ILLEGITIMATE LEADER. AMERICAN MILITARY HUBRIS

AMERICAN MILITARY HUBRIS THINKING WE CAN OVERTAKE A

THINKING WE CAN OVERTAKE A COUNTRY BY FORCE MAKES US LESS

COUNTRY BY FORCE MAKES US LESS SAFE.

SAFE. YES, I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT

YES, I THINK IT WAS IMPORTANT FOFOR AMERICA TO PURSUE A

FOR AMERICA TO PURSUE A DIPLOMATIC STRATEGY WITH OUR

DIPLOMATIC STRATEGY WITH OUR LATIN AMERICAN ALLIES TO FORCE

LATIN AMERICAN ALLIES TO FORCE ELECTIONS IN VENEZUELA.

ELECTIONS IN VENEZUELA. SO AS S TO ALLOW THE VENEZUELAN

SO AS TO ALLOW THE VENEZUELAN PEOPLE TO MOVE MADURO OUT OF

PEOPLE TO MOVE MADURO OUT OF POWER.

POWER.R. I HAVE NEVER SUPPORTED AN

I HAVE NEVER SUPPORTED AN INVAVASION OF VENEZUELA.

INVASION OF VENEZUELA. >> IS THE COUNTRY BETTER OFF?

>> IS THE COUNTRY BETTER OFF?? >> WELL, APPARENTLY, THIS NEW

>> WELL, APPARENTLY, THIS NEW PERSON IN CHARGE DELCY RODRIGUEZ

PERSON IN CHARGE DELCY RODRIGUEZ IS IMPOSING A BRUTAL CRACKDOWN

IS IMPOSING A BRUTAL CRACKDOWN ON THE VENEZUELAN PEOPLE THAT'S

ON THE VENEZUELAN PEOPLE THAT'S WORSE IN SOME WAYS THAT WHAT

WORSE IN SOME WAYS THAT WHAT MADURO DID.

MADURO DID. FOR THE VENEZUELAN PEOPLE

FOR THE VENEZUELAN PEOPLE NOTHING HAS CHANGED.

NOTHING HAS CHANGED. ALL THAT'S CHANGE SIDE AMERICAN

ALL THAT'S CHANGE SIDE AMERICAN OIL EXECUTIVES WILL GET ACACCESS

OIL EXECUTIVES WILL GET ACCESS TO GREATER AMOUNTS OF PROFITS

TO GREATER AMOUNTS OF PROFITS OUT OF VENEZUELA.

OUT OF VENEZUELA. VENEZUELA'S NOT ABOUT AMERICA'S

VENEZUELA'S NOT ABOUT AMERICA'S NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AND

NATIONAL SECURITY INTERESTS AND IT'S FOR TRUMP'S MAR-A-LAGO OIL

IT'S FOR TRUMP'S MAR-A-LAGO OIL INDUSTRY BUDDIES.

INDUSTRY BUDDIES. >> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ANOTHER

>> LET ME ASK YOU ABOUT ANOTHER FOCUS, GREENLAND.

FOCUS, GREENLAND. I HAD THE OPPORTUNUNITY TO SPEAK

I HAD THE OPPORTUNITY TO SPEAK WITHTH PRESIDENT TRUMP THIS WEE.

WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP THIS WEEK. HE SAID HE IS, QUOUOTE, VERY

HE SAID HE IS, QUOTE, VERY SERIOUS ABOUT ANNEXING

SERIOUS ABOUT ANNEXING GREENLAND.

GREENLAND. ININ A LATER INTERVIEW HE DIDN'T

IN A LATER INTERVIEW HE DIDN'T TAKE MILITARY OPTIONS OFOFF OF E

TAKE MILITARY OPTIONS OFF OF THE TABLE, AND OF COURSE, IT'S AN

TABLE, AND OF COURSE, IT'S AN AUTONOMOUS TERRITORY OF DENMARK

AUTONOMOUS TERRITORY OF DENMARK WHICH IS A NATO ALLY.

WHICH IS A NATO ALLY. DO YOU THINK ANNEXING GREENLAND

DO YOU THINK ANNEXING GREENLAND WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE THE END OF

WOULD EFFECTIVELY BE THE END OF NATO.

NATO.. IT WOULD BE THE END OF NATO.

IT WOULD BE THE END OF NATO. NATO WOULD HAVE AN BE OBLIGATION

NATO WOULD HAVE AN BE OBLIGATION DEFEND GREENLAND AND QUERY

DEFEND GREENLAND AND QUERY WHETHER WE WOULD BE AT WAR WITH

WHETHER WE WOULD BE AT WAR WITH EUROPE, WITH ENGLAND, WITH

EUROPE, WITH ENGLAND, WITH FRANCE, BUT LET'S ALSO TALK

FRANCE, BUT LET'S ALSO TALK ABOUT WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE.

ABOUT WHAT'S AT STAKE HERE. THE PRESIDENT IS SPENDING EVERY

THE PRESIDENT IS SPENDING EVERY SINGLE DAY THINKING ABOUT

SINGLE DAY THINKING ABOUT T INVADING GREENLAND, MANAGING THE

INVADING GREENLAND, MANAGING THE VENEZUELAN ECONOMY, BUILDING A

VENEZUELAN ECONOMY, BUILDING A BALLROOM.

BALLROOM. HE IS NOT THININKING ABOUT THE

HE IS NOT THINKING ABOUT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AT ALL.

AMERICAN PEOPLE AT ALL. THIS MONTHTH PREMIUMS, HEALTH

THIS MONTH PREMIUMS, HEALTH INSURANCE PREMIUMS ON 22 MILLION

INSURANCE PREMIUMS ON 22 MILLION AMERICANS ARE GOING UP, DOUBLING

AMERICANS ARE GOING UP, DOUBLING IN SOME CASES.

IN SOME CASES. KIDS AREN'T ABLE TO EAT THREE

KIDS AREN'T ABLE TO EAT THREE MEALS BECAUSE THE TRUMP

MEALS BECAUSE THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION HAS SLASHED FOOD

ADMINISTRATION HAS SLASHED FOOD ASSISTANCE.

ASSISTANCE.. EVERY SINGLE DAY THE PRESIDENT

EVERY SINGLE DAY THE PRESIDENT IS THINKING ABOUT GREENLAND, HIS

IS THINKING ABOUT GREENLAND, HIS BALLROOM, VENEZUELA, HE IS

BALLROOM, VENEZUELA, HE IS SPENDING NO TIME THINKING ABOUT

SPENDING NO TIME THINKING ABOUT THE ACTUAL CRISES BEINING VISITD

THE ACTUAL CRISES BEING VISITED ON AMERICAN FAMILIES.

ON AMERICAN FAMILIES. THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO IS

THIS IS A PRESIDENT WHO IS DISTRACTED BY THINGS THAT DON'T

DISTRACTED BY THINGS THAT DON'T MATTER TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AT

MATTER TO THE AMERICAN PEOPLE AT A MOMENT WHEN THE AMERICAN

A MOMENT WHEN THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE IN CRISIS.

PEOPLE ARE IN CRISIS. THAT IS THE UNDERLYING REALITY

THAT IS THE UNDERLYING REALITY OF A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS BECOME

OF A WHITE HOUSE THAT HAS BECOME OUT OF CONTROL.

OUT OF CONTROL. >> SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY, THANK

>> SENATOR CHRIS MURPHY, THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE.

YOU FOR BEING HERE. THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN

THANK YOU FOR BEING HERE IN PERSON.

PERSON. WE REALLY APPRECIATE IT.

>> THANK YOU. >> WHEN WE COME BACK,

>> WHEN WE COME BACK, NNEAPOLIS MI

>>> WELCOME BACK AND JOINING ME

>>> WELCOME BACK AND JOINING ME NOW IS DEMOCRATIC MAYOR R JACOB

NOW IS DEMOCRATIC MAYOR JACOB FREY OF MINNEAPOLIS.

FREY OF MINNEAPOLIS. MAYOR FREY, WELCOME TO "MEET THE

MAYOR FREY, WELCOME TO "MEET THE PRESS."

PRESS."" >> THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME.

>> THANKS SO MUCH FOR HAVING ME. >> THANK YOU SO MUMUCH FOR BEING

>> THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR BEING HERE IN THE WAKE OF SUCH A

HERE IN THE WAKE OF SUCH A MONUMENTAL WEEK FOR YOUR CITY.

MONUMENTAL WEEK FOR YOUR CITY. I WANT TO START WITH THE TRUMP

I WANT TO START WITH THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION ARGUING I.C.E.

ADMINISTRATION ARGUING I.C.E. OFFICER JONATHAN ROSS WAS ACTING

OFFICER JONATHAN ROSS WAS ACTING IN SELF-DEFENSE.

IN SELF-DEFENSE. YOU HAVE NOW SEEN THE E OFFICERS

YOU HAVE NOW SEEN THE OFFICER'S CELL PHONE VIDEO.

CELL PHONE VIDEO. WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE?

WHAT IS YOUR RESPONSE? DO YOU BELIEVE THE OFFICER WAS

DO YOU BELIEVE THE OFFICER WAS ACTING IN SELF-DEFENSE?

ACTING IN SELF-DEFENSE? >> IN THE IMMEDIACY FOLLOWING

>> IN THE IMMEDIACY FOLLOWING THE SHOOTING YOU HEARD PEOPLE

THE SHOOTING YOU HEARD PEOPLE FROM THE TRUMP ADMININISTRATION

FROM THE TRUMP ADMINISTRATION SAYING THE VICTIM M WAS A DOMESC

SAYING THE VICTIM WAS A DOMESTIC TERRORIST.

TERRORIST.T. YOU HEARD THAT THE I.C.E. AGENT

YOU HEARD THAT THE I.C.E. AGENT WAS ACTING ENTIRELY IN

WAS ACTING ENTIRELY IN SELF-DEFENSE, AND HERE'S THE

SELF-DEFENSE, AND HERE'S THE THING.

THING. YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE MY WORD

YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE MY WORD FOR IT.

FOR IT. YOU DON'T NEED TO TATAKE THEIR

YOU DON'T NEED TO TAKE THEIR WORD FOR IT.

WORD FOR IT. WATCH THE VIDEO.

WATCH THE VIDEO. THE I.C.E. AGENT WAS NOT RUN

THE I.C.E. AGENT WAS NOT RUN OVER AS TRUMP STATED.

OVER AS TRUMP STATED. YOU HAD A PERSON THAT WAS

YOU HAD A PERSON THAT WAS DEFINITIVELY TRYING TO JUST GET

DEFINITIVELY TRYING TO JUST GET OUT OF THERE.

OUT OF THERE. THEY WERE TRYING TO LEAVE THE

THEY WERE TRYING TO LEAVE THE SCENE.

SCENE. THAT IS NOT A PERSON THAT'S

THAT IS NOT A PERSON THAT'S TRYING TO RUN AN I.C.E. AGENT

TRYING TO RUN AN I.C.E. AGENT OVER.

OVER.. YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT IS TRYING

YOU HAVE A PERSON THAT IS TRYING TO P PROTECT OUR CITY, TO LOOK T

TO PROTECT OUR CITY, TO LOOK OUT FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND BY THE

FOR OUR NEIGHBORS AND BY THE WAY, THERE ARE 435,000 PEOPLE

WAY, THERE ARE 435,000 PEOPLE THROUGHOUT MINNEAPOLIS THAT ARE

THROUGHOUT MINNEAPOLIS THAT ARE LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR NEIGHBHBOS

LOOKING OUT FOR THEIR NEIGHBORS RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY

RIGHT NOW BECAUSE THEY UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS

UNDERSTAND THE MAGNITUDE OF THIS MOMENT, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT

MOMENT, AND THEY UNDERSTAND THAT THE ENDURANCE OF OUR REPUBLIC

THE ENDURANCE OF OUR REPUBLIC DEPENDS ON US LOOKING OUT FOR

DEPENDS ON US LOOKING OUT FOR EACH OTHER AND WE'RE STANDING

EACH OTHER AND WE'RE STANDING STRONG HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS.

STRONG HERE IN MINNEAPOLIS. >> I HEAR YOU ACCUSING TRUMP

>> I HEAR YOU ACCUSING TRUMP ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS OF A

ADMINISTRATION OFFICIALS OF A RUSH TO JUDGMENT.

RUSH TO JUDGMENT. IS IT IMPERATIVE FOR LEADERS

IS IT IMPERATIVE FOR LEADERS LIKE YOURSELF TO WAIT FOR THIS

LIKE YOURSELF TO WAIT FOR THIS INVESTIGATION TO PLAY OUT BEFORE

INVESTIGATION TO PLAY OUT BEFORE MAKING ANY TYPE OF DETERMINATION

MAKING ANY TYPE OF DETERMINATION ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED

ABOUT WHAT EXACTLY HAPPENED HERE, MAYOR?

HERE, MAYOR? >> I THIHINK THAT'S A FAIR POINT

>> I THINK THAT'S A FAIR POINT TO MAKE AND SO LET'S HAVE THE

TO MAKE AND SO LET'S HAVE THE INVESTIGATION IN THE HANDS OF

INVESTIGATION IN THE HANDS OF SOMEONE THAT ISN'T BIASSED.

SOMEONE THAT ISN'T BIASSED. LET'S NOT HAVE IT EXCLUSIVELY

LET'S NOT HAVE IT EXCLUSIVELY RUN THROUGH THE FBI AT THE

RUN THROUGH THE FBI AT THE FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR AT THE

FEDERAL GOVERNMENT OR AT THE DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE.

DEPARTMENT OF JUSTICE. LET'S HAVE IT WITH THE BUREAU OF

LET'S HAVE IT WITH THE BUREAU OF CRIMINAL APPREHENSION AT THE

CRIMINAL APPREHENSION AT THE STATE LEVEL.

STATE LEVEL. THIS IS AN ENTITY THAT HAS

THIS IS AN ENTITY THAT HAS EXPERTISE.

EXPERTISE. THEY HAVAVE A LONG HISTORY OF

THEY HAVE A LONG HISTORY OF INVESTIGATING CASES JUST LIKE

INVESTIGATING CASES JUST LIKE THIS, AND THEY HAVE HAD

THIS, AND THEY HAVE HAD INVESTIGATIONS COME, BY THE WAY,

INVESTIGATIONS COME, BY THE WAY, TO BOTH CONCLUSIONS WITH A

TO BOTH CONCLUSIONS WITH A CHARGE AND WITHOUT A CHARGE.

CHARGE AND WITHOUT A CHARGE. WE NEED TO BE DOING THIS RIGHT

WE NEED TO BE DOING THIS RIGHT NOW.

NOW. WE NEED TO BE DOING THIS

WE NEED TO BE DOING THIS TRANSPARENTLY, AND WHAT I WAS

TRANSPARENTLY, AND WHAT I WAS PUSHING BACK ON FROM THE VERY

PUSHING BACK ON FROM THE VERY BEGINNING WAS A NARRATIVE THAT

BEGINNING WAS A NARRATIVE THAT HAD JUMPED TO THAT CONCLUSION

HAD JUMPED TO THAT CONCLUSION RIGHT FROM THE GET GO, AND WHEN

RIGHT FROM THE GET GO, AND WHEN YOU'VE GOT A FEDERAL

YOU'VE GOT A FEDERAL ADMINISTRATION THAT IS SO QUICK

ADMINISTRATION THAT IS SO QUICK TO JUMP ON A NARRATIVEVE AS

TO JUMP ON A NARRATIVE AS OPPOSED TO THE TRUTH, I THINK WE

OPPOSED TO THE TRUTH, I THINK WE ALL NEED TO BE SPEAKING OUT.

ALL NEED TO BE SPEAKING OUT. >> WILL YOU ACCEPT THE RESULTS

>> WILL YOU ACCEPT THE RESULTS OF THE FBI INVESTIGATION, MAYOR?

OF THE FBI INVESTIGATION, MAYOR? YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS AN FBI

YOU KNOW, IF IT WAS AN FBI INVESTIGATION THAT WAS DONE

INVESTIGATION THAT WAS DONE JOINTLY WITH AN INVESTIGATION

JOINTLY WITH AN INVESTIGATION FROM THE BUREAU OF CRIMINANAL A

FROM THE BUREAU OF CRIMINAL A

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