Ron DeSantis Self Destructs | Donald Trump HUMILIATION.
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historical lens that we've put on
politics and business that's a weird
that's weird usually when you know
companies complain about governments
being anti-business it's things like you
know uh the pushback in New York City
that kept Amazon from building its
headquarters here I mean it's it's on
the other side of the spectrum so I
think the show is just like how toxic
this has become this is not about
economics uh Governor DeSantis is
willing to foist higher taxes onto his
own constituents to prove a point and
Disney is willing to pay higher taxes to
keep control of its business and keep it
out of the hands of a government yeah
but keep in mind Disney has just pulled
a fast one on Ron DeSantis and the
DeSantis camp that even though this is
this fight between Ronnie D and Disney
feels very politicized and political in
nature Ron DeSantis is now lashing out
because he's calling for an
investigation into quote last minute
changes made by the outgoing Disney
appointed board members basically what
happened is Ron DeSantis was busy being
political with his administration making
the argument that we're gonna fight woke
and we're gonna fight and punish Disney
and then while he's making those public
arguments Disney at a public board
meeting voted to extend many rights to
Disney's ability to basically
self-govern for the next 30 Years 30
more years Disney just gave itself in a
public board meeting
to protect itself from Ron DeSantis now
mainstream media Outlets like the
financial times and New York Times are
jumping on the bandwagon suggesting Ron
DeSantis is humiliated he is now on one
hand trying to show how tough he is but
he's so tough that he got publicly juked
and outplayed by Disney now look I'm a
big fan for some healthy competition for
Donald Trump but unfortunately Ronnie D
here taking an L with Disney while
trying to act tough will do the opposite
for his campaign and actually just
enhance Donald Trump's because people
have the impression that Donald Trump
isn't going to stop until he gets what
he wants and this might be a dead end
for Ron DeSantis so if I had any
personal advice for Ron DeSantis it
would be twofold number one you gotta
fix this Disney problem maybe come to a
negotiated solution or something now I'm
going to explain the problem in just a
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all of this led the CEO of Disney to
call Ron DeSantis anti-business let's
get some reaction after listening to
that clip from Ron DeSantis and let's
get some reaction from some Talking
Heads and then add our own commentary
and it thwartz those efforts simply to
retaliate for a position The company
took sounds not just anti-business but
it sounds anti-florida and I'll just
leave it at that columnist and CNBC
contributor Jim Stewart and Puck senior
political correspondent Tara palmeri
great to have you both on and staying up
late we appreciate it Jim your take on
this you literally wrote the book on
Disney where does this end well I'm not
I'm not surprised this thing has flared
up again but it is at least so far this
is mostly a war of words and symbolism
yes DeSantis move to strip control of
the local board but in the great scheme
of things I think that could actually
save Disney some money in in the long
run you know much bigger Stakes here are
the fact that Disney employs many many
thousands of people in the State of
Florida and just in 2021 announced that
it was moving another few thousand there
including the imagineers and Florida was
giving them about 570 million in tax
incentives now the status has not yet
done anything about that nor has Disney
said well we're not going to do it that
would be I guess kind of like you know
Putin dropping a tactical nuclear bomb
or something I mean at that point it
would become something with real
economic repercussions
you know Tara what this seems to be
honestly we're putting it as Disney
versus DeSantis I just have a feeling
that Disney's lawyers appear to be a lot
better than Florida's lawyers so yeah
I'd agree I mean to me Rhonda Santa
seems extremely flat-footed
um this reminds me of the migrants that
he shipped from um Texas the border to
Martha's Vineyard you know there was a
headline grabbing stunt a political
stunt but there was really no
follow-through the fact that they didn't
realize at the Reedy Creek board had
even changed the rules back in February
before he put his own board in just
showed that they weren't really doing
their due diligence I also think it's
really interesting to see that um iger's
language is much stronger than Bob
chaffix and you know he's calling the
Santa's anti-florida he's really you
know getting in it with him that's a
good I mean Tara that's a good I mean
whatever you think that's a good line I
mean whoever side you're on that's a
good line
yeah but I also wonder if it Flex the
fact that DeSantis is becoming weaker
politically the fact that he would
become so aggressive or if this is just
Igor Style versus chapex but it just
seems to me like he's ready to take this
antis on head on and the tone has
changed and it also just happens to
coincide with the fact that the statuses
poll numbers are slipping right now the
fact that he's had a lot of stumbles on
the national stage you know the fact
that he's wobbling on Trump's indictment
politically he's suffering and it's
interesting to see him being attacked
um not just politically but also by you
know corporate Disney
so we're gonna stop that one there worth
thinking about that though for a moment
really there's this setup that
potentially Ron DeSantis is weakening in
the at the same time as Donald Trump is
potentially strengthening here's that
New York Times piece just so you can see
it where a Disney basically responded to
losing control of its board by the month
before losing control basically voting
with the now lame duck board to restrict
the power of the new board and give
Disney several exclusive rights that
could last as long as 30 or even more
years in certain circumstances so Disney
really outplaying Ron DeSantis here and
this now leading to a lot of folks
wondering did Ron DeSantis just get
embarrassed on a national stage it is
Ron DeSantis somebody who was considered
a potential front-runner as Donald Trump
was kind of screaming in a corner in
this 2024 a political election cycle did
Rhonda sand has now become the kids
screaming in a quarter and banging his
head against the wall as Donald Trump's
uh you know indictment has made him
potentially 10 times more of a news
subject than he was beforehand and now
the only remaining sort of legacy of
DeSantis is this mistake of of trying to
appear tough against Disney yet actually
getting outplayed by Disney I kind of
think I think about it like the the
person who uh who's winning the uh I'm
sure you've seen these before you know
those marathon races where you get like
the uh the runner who's running and
they're getting right to the end and
they're like yeah I won and then they
they're so focused on how they're
winning that they don't even realize
their Challenger is running up right
behind them and ends up passing them
right at the last second at which point
it's too late for that person to respond
anymore that's kind of how I view this
this DeSantis Disney dispute although
he's been getting hit pretty hard hard
in various different areas not only the
Disney issue he got hit for at first
kind of nearly kicking Trump while he
was down by making fun of the hush money
potentially to uh Stormy Daniels
argument that he was making on top of
that and this was when he was at a press
conference and Ron DeSantis basically uh
said ah you know I wouldn't know
anything about paying hush money to a
porn star
I don't know what goes into paying hush
money to a porn star to to secure
silence over some type of alleged Affair
I just I can't speak to that and that
was seen as a low blow uh by many as
well as his response to Ukraine calling
it a territorial dispute while the
United States has many vital national
interests becoming further entangled in
a territorial dispute between Ukraine
and Russia is not one of them Ron
DeSantis as a member of the House in the
Obama Administration we in the Congress
have been urging the president I've been
to provide arms to Ukraine they want to
fight their good fight they're not
asking us to fight it for them and the
president has steadfastly refused and I
think that's a mistake so a flip-flop
instead Ron DeSantis has walked back
those comments but look at how different
those comments from Rhonda santosar to
Donald Trump and this isn't me taking
aside it's just trying to report some of
the differences between the two
candidates because they're pretty dang
Stark and for well unfortunately for Ron
DeSantis Donald Trump probably takes a
win on this one what do you think here
we go through weakness and incompetence
Joe Biden has brought us to the brink of
World War III we're at the brink of
World War III just in case anybody
doesn't know it as president I will
bring back peace through strength peace
through strength would have never
happened
If I Was President there would not have
been a war with Russia in Ukraine zero
chance that Lindsay would be happy I
will say this even now despite
tremendous loss of lives and destruction
of much of that country I would have a
peace deal negotiated within 24 hours
you could make a peace deal you could
make a deal obviously Donald Trump's
probably not going to be able to end
anything in 24 hours including lots of
lawsuits and other headaches and
problems but at least it shows the
motivation the hope the desire and the
urgency something that Ron DeSantis did
not do all these things really painting
Trump is very different from DeSantis
right on one hand you're painting Trump
as not able to be beaten down by uh by
the system whereas the Santa's just got
beat by Disney essentially you have
Trump who's taking this very tough on
Ukraine and Russia approach saying it's
so important that we need to prevent
World War III he'll do whatever he needs
to do to get a negotiated settlement as
soon as possible whereas Santos
initially called it a territorial
dispute before walking that back so
you're seeing some very clear
differences between the two candidates
uh you're also I mean even Ben Mala whom
I've interviewed on the channel the real
estate guy he's a he's a big fan of
believing that one of the big
differences between Trump and DeSantis
is that Trump inspires hope and really
motivates people to vote whereas maybe
DeSantis less so
uh White House obviously always
criticizes the Republicans at the moment
the White House apparently has now
condemned DeSantis for signing into a
law that would allow residents to carry
concealed carry guns without a permit
it's kind of like what California is
trying to do except in California
anybody can get a concealed carry
license is the way that they're labeling
it you just basically can't carry it
anywhere yeah I think the only like you
can't carry it at parks public events
schools libraries retail establishments
that don't explicitly have a sign saying
you're allowed to carry in their store
so yeah okay good job California anyway
DeSantis signing a right to carry law
basically and uh the White House calling
that shameful and the opposite of Common
Sense gun safety uh in under the new law
anyone who legally owns a gun in Florida
can carry it without a permit and
training and a background check are not
required to carry a gun in public in
Florida anymore
fascinating big differences there in
Florida from certainly States like New
York or California so this sends you an
update on DeSantis I'd have to say in
summary here
probably aren't going
fairly well for DeSantis now but I think
it's way too soon to count anybody out
in this election cycle especially since
you still got to get to actual debates
you got to get to election year which
election year is still a year away a lot
could change by then Donald Trump could
be totally free or it could be in jail
or what's more likely is we'll just
still be twiddling our thumbs watching
court cases and we'll see how DeSantis
handles next year we'll see
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