JP Morgan's Warnings for the Market [Just Released]
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hey everyone me kevin here this morning
jamie dimon the ceo of jpmorgan and
chase put out a 66 page a letter about
his opinions on what the heck is going
on in the world and these
presumably all are also the opinions of
jp morgan and chase not just jamie
diamond
but i want to start with our favorite
topic
inflation market issues the fed
so let's jump right into that section of
the letter and then i want to talk about
some specific
stocks that are really benefiting and
taking off today because of this letter
and hint it's not jpmorgan chase
so uh take a look at this so first of
all he touches on quantitative easing
here
and basically says look we really
haven't seen
the quantitative easing like what we've
had in the last
12 years ever before we haven't really
done this before and he complains a bit
about how there's a lot of regulation on
banks
that's potentially making more
quantitative easing necessary because
banks are now required to keep
a portion of their money of cash
deposits on hand rather than being able
to lend that out
and throughout the letter in multiple
different areas whether that's
individual banking or the discount
window at the fed
is essentially saying look because we
have to keep more money around
we can't lend when people need it stop
requiring banks to keep so much money
around he calls this
a three trillion dollar amount of
lost lending that helps us stagnate in
our economy he's very
very much slamming the regulations
imposed on banks
and when we here we this is a section
here where he says qe was never
effectively tried before prior to the
great recession but here's an
interesting argument he makes
so he says quantitative easing reduces
interest rates and
increases asset prices and creates
some spending so here he's essentially
saying look when the fed is printing
money
all you're really doing is creating the
effect of
lowering interest rates making asset
prices more expensive
because when interest rates are lower on
bonds more people invest in
stocks and then and people can borrow
more to invest in stocks or real estate
and you increase asset prices some of
that he says translates to people
spending more money because they're
richer they're wealthier
but he says most of what qe does
most of the money printing that happens
with quantitative easing this is like
bond rate
is selling and buying that has
mostly an inflationary effect on asset
prices
and so this is really important because
when we're worried about inflation we
really want to think about asset price
inflation
separately from consumer price inflation
so uh just a quick little detail there
on
on how that would work fed prints one
dollar or you know what let's say the
fed prints 120 billion dollars let's go
with that example
fed prints 120 billion dollars they use
that 120 billion dollars they created
out of thin air
to buy 120 billion dollars from let's
say jp morgan and chase they they don't
but let's just say it's from jp morgan
jp morgan now has 120 billion in cash
they have to keep
some of that as reserves because of
regulations
and then jp morgan has this choice do we
make more loans or just buy more bonds
and lately it kind of seems like a lot
of the money gets stuck
in the system where jp morgan just goes
and buys more bonds
so really it's taking printed money and
just
increasing the demand for bonds
increasing their price and lowering
rates
this is how rates stay low but little of
this money
actually finds its way into the economy
through quantitative easing
it just makes the rich richer basically
now he's going to contrast to stimulus
in just a moment but take a look at some
of the downsides he talks about
regarding quantitative easing
and i've never considered some of these
before some of these i have but some of
these other ones were very unique
take a listen to this on the other hand
quantitative easing easing may have some
deflationary effects this makes sense
lower interest rates
is deflationary and he says that's
because businesses have lower input
costs
but you also with lower yields lower
interest rates provide less
income to savers we've heard that before
but then he says
this could actually reduce consumption
so money printing and quantitative
easing which
we should separate that quantitative
easing is one type
quantitative easing could reduce
people's
spending because they're making less
money on their
savings you're not getting that two
percent yield anymore in your savings
account
like you used to be able to get
everywhere or that three or four percent
yield
that you got in previous days you know
that doesn't exist anymore
and this means people need to set aside
or save more money
to protect the required their retirement
income as he says here
and ultimately people potentially spend
less money even though rates go down and
we'd think
quantitative easing would lead people to
spend more money this is interesting
uh something i haven't considered before
is especially this retirement savings
going up and people not spending in a
low interest rate environment because
they're just not making as much money as
they used to
on their savings then uh when he talks
about
spending uh for specifically
like stimulus measures he mentions that
look
in recessionary environments with low
inflation you basically
should print money and spend it via
stimulus and he says that you can do
this
without causing overheating or excessive
inflation
in fact he says one of the downsides or
one of the reasons
we had slower growth over the last 10
years is because we didn't do
enough stimulus we just didn't do enough
in those first two years
of the obama era to do more stimulus
congress was too gridlocked
for too long and what he mentions as
well is look
when we spend money uh he talks this is
where he gets into inflation which is a
fascinating argument that he makes here
then he touches some more on
inflation and this is an interesting
note he says that
uh after or during world war ii
he mentions that this period of high
government debt
did not create lasting and that's the
key word here lasting inflation
as the circumstances were different then
were coming out of a deep depression and
money was spent financing a war
circumstances and starting points matter
he says
this is where he makes a difference
between what happened during the
recession and what's happening now
during the recession he says the entire
financial system was deemed
over leveraged and that consumers
individuals like you and me
were over leveraged as well for years
after the great recession there was a
massive deleveraging in the united
states by consumers
and financial institutions he says today
this is not the case
instead the consumer's leverage is lower
than it has been in 40
years on top of that before the stimulus
package of 1.9 trillion dollars
consumers had excess savings of two
trillion dollars he says
something that's different than the
prior recession right before the global
financial crisis
corporations also have an extraordinary
amount of cash he mentions
and so this is where he comes to a very
positive conclusion but it gets dark
right
after this so let's hit the positive
conclusion first he says
i have little doubt that with excess
savings new stimulus
savings huge deficit spending more qe a
potential
infrastructure bill a successful vaccine
and euphoria around the end of the
pandemic
the u.s economy will likely boom this
boom could easily run into 2023
because all the spending could extend
well into 2023.
something he mentions throughout this
report is he does talk about how
hey look all of this spending that we're
doing
on stimulus is not going to be immediate
we're going to keep benefiting from this
for years after we spend the money
and so that's an important takeaway from
this as well now we get to some of the
negative from jamie dimon so jamie
dimon starts off by saying while equity
valuation stocks are quite high by
almost
all measures historically a multi-year
booming economy could justify
the current price of stocks so he's
being pretty clear here yo
stocks aren't cheap right now but maybe
if we have a
multi-year bull run in the markets or
just the economy
then these prices are going to be
justified now he does also say
accept against interest rates this right
here is a very cathy wood argument
that look markets have not priced in
the fact that we are going to have lower
interest rates for the long term even
after temporary inflation
even after the fed increases the fed
funds rate
which is currently at zero percent even
if that goes back to one and a half two
percent
we are still pricing in interest rates
around
five to six to seven percent on the s p
500
when in reality we should be pricing in
interest rates closer to two to three
percent
which leaves a lot more room for growth
stocks going
forward it's a very cathy woody an
argument uh many people obviously do not
agree with kathy wood
now clearly jamie dimon goes on to say
clearly there is some froth
and speculation in parts of the market
he refers to a line from
casablanca i'm shocked shocked to find
that gambling is going on in here
which is obviously sarcasm at least in
this context then he goes on to say that
the price
of u.s bonds is actually very
high right now like the 10-year the
price of the 10-year bond
is still too high is what he's saying he
thinks it should fall
more and that's because he thinks look
we've got to be real
there's going to be a lot more debt
coming out so the price of bonds
should be lower which would mean yields
or rates
go up and then he says
there's also the not unreasonable
possibility that an increase in
inflation will
not just be temporary and so he's
basically saying here look
we're going to have a huge supply of
more bonds so prices for bonds
should go down driving yields up we need
to consider the fact that
inflation could happen that should push
push prices for bonds
down more today because people don't
want today's bonds
which should price up yields so these
are two very important things
that he mentions here all right so uh
then
we're going to run over here we're going
to see again he reiterates
that the fed may be forced to raise
rates
sooner than people expect and this is
also an interesting segment here which
he we've talked about briefly before
but he mentions here much of the
stimulus may very well hit
when the economy is doing quite well
this is a way of saying
look stimulus takes time to be spent so
what happens if all the stimulus we just
spent actually starts kicking into high
gear in like 2022 or 23
when the economy is actually doing
better because hopefully covets under
control and gone then
and then guess what happens inflation
because now you're now it's literally
like imagine this
it's like oh the market's down now let's
pump money into the market and stimulate
the economy right
but what if that takes two years to get
fully realized that means a portion
let's call it 25 doesn't hit until 2023
well let's now fast forward to 23.
no covid everything's booming here's
another 25
stimulus it's not a new package it's
just the delay in how long it took for
that money to actually go through the
system
and then all of a sudden hits and it's
like wait a minute this is a lot of
extra uh uh you know stimulus
kind of interesting so uh then we go on
let's see the government did the right
thing by moving extraordinarily quickly
to stop copyright blah blah blah okay
so let's get to some other conclusions
here so i highlighted the best parts
let's get over here
so uh how do we okay over here he spends
a lot of time
in his piece complaining about
regulation he says look
banks should be allowed to fail there
should be no such thing as too big to
fail
he also says the problem is there's too
much regulation
right now banks are capitalized markets
are good if there's a collapse of a bank
markets will be okay he says he's
actually very confident in the market
but he's very upset but by what he deems
as
unfair regulation he compares fintechs
to having lower capital requirements
less operational risk no liquidity
requirements no fdic
insurance less costly regulation no
social requirements higher debt
debit card income and so on so forth
whereas banks have basically
lower or more stringent issues on all
these fronts
and basically he spends a few pages in
here talking about how
non-banks neo banks and non-banks are
gaining shares
in consumer accounts that are creating
these effective
savings account kind of like or if
things that are like effectively like
savings account like robinhood savings
account
and he makes this analogy here or
actually gives us a stat here and says
look
you take a banking customer with twenty
thousand dollars or who spends twenty
thousand dollars on a debit card
annually
jp morgan might only make 120 off that
customer
whereas other banks like the non-banks
are making 240
because of the differences in regulation
uh and he really complains quite a bit
about regulation i mean look at this
onerous reporting requirements higher
litigation expenses for public companies
annual shareholder meetings that focus
on matters that most shareholders view
as frivolous
really jaded tone and he has a lot of
this jaded tone throughout a lot of this
and he talks about how well-positioned
fintech is with
social media or big tech is with data to
basically
white label banking relationships and
create huge competition for jp morgan
now jp morgan basically to this says
look the game's rigged
uh we're at the losing end of that but
we won't die yet so don't worry
uh yeah okay that might be a little bit
of a harsh conclusion but i think it's a
fair conclusion
uh talks a little bit more about how
look at this he says this system
is broken talks about how
heavy these requirements are for banks
to keep all this extra liquidity around
but wait a minute if there's so much
more like there's so much more cash
requirements on banks
what happens well the fed has to step in
more frequently
when there are issues or stresses in the
repo market or the treasury market
if you got rid of all of these extra
requirements banks would be able to
provide more lending
and essentially goes on this tangent
about complaining over regulations
uh which in fairness thanks to
dodd-frank and some other regulation
banks are way more regulated than like
the fintechs
any we see that time and time again like
i cannot get more than four mortgages at
jpmorgan
but i can get uh up to 10 in some cases
up to 19
at brokers or fintechs but jp morgan
can't because dodd-frank says the big
four banks
nope you can't do more than four
mortgages for kevin it's not jp morgan's
fault
sucks for them they're just too big
maybe they should create their own
fintech
uh you know a division of or maybe not a
division of just a totally separate
company led by jamie dimon i don't know
go compete you know can't beat him join
them kind of thing
anyway then he talks about how he
believes that china believes
that america is in decline and that
america is going to get
basically dominated by china and this is
something that biden is deathly afraid
of
and biden is really trying to fight this
jaime diamond here says that china sees
an america that is losing ground in
technology infrastructure and education
a nation torn and crippled by politics
as well as racial and income inequality
in a country
unable to coordinate government policies
in other words
our government is very slow also says uh
unfortunately recently there has been a
lot of truth to these arguments so he's
reiterating
uh what china's beliefs are about
america he also goes out of his way to
mention the horrific murder of george
floyd
this is taking a a position on that you
all know that i'm always 100 neutral on
this channel
but there are some people on one side
that say
george floyd wasn't murdered he you know
was following
department policies and then there are a
lot of folks on the other side who say
no way neon way too long uh
total murder abuse of power right again
everybody's got their own conclusions
here
i'm not even mentioning a side
uh that that i would remotely be on the
point is to say that jamie diamond is
the only thing i'm conveying here jamie
dimon
took his stand okay good so moving on
uh politics is increasingly divisive the
government is increasingly
dysfunctional these are harsh words the
enormous wealth our country is a clear
accruing to the very few
that k-shaped recovery he blames these
problems
on wealth inequality he suggests that
30 percent of americans earn less than
15 dollars an hour
says 85 percent of high schoolers in
inner cities do not graduate
says uh wait hold on hold on let's see
well i'm sorry i misread that while the
amer
average american high school graduates
approximately 85 percent of its students
many of our inner city schools don't
graduate half
that's the correct statistic half of
their students
our health care system is increasingly
costly now over 11
000 per person more than twice our
global competitors
now i'm not sure if he means per year
per person 11 000
i think that's what he means but the
bottom line there is really twice as
expensive of a healthcare system
than our global competitors uh he
complains
that uh 70 of today's youth are not
eligible
for military service due to a lack of
proper education or
health issues complains about
difficult litigation system and
regulatory system that is costly and
crippling to small business
with red tape and bureaucracy he does
not have a lot of good things to say
like jamie dimon
it just sounds like he is so frustrated
kept up by so many things at night
and feels almost powerless to change
some of these things
this is i think one of the reasons he
has this letter is to potentially try to
provide some solutions but he also goes
on to say that look
if we keep having this anemic growth
kind of like what we saw between 2018
and 2019
we could end up in secular stagnation
this is a way of what i've been talking
about on this channel
really throughout this entire pandemic
about possibly entering a frugal decade
where people are saving much more than
they previously have before
and that's bad because when people save
more you don't get some of the benefits
of faster growth
which here he says faster growth would
not only have spurred higher incomes
more jobs and increased opportunities
but would have also created far more
consumption and increased demand for
investment
eliminating any potential savings glut
or
secular stagnation but he says my view
is if you add it all up
this dysfunction of our government could
easily have been a one percent drag on
our growth rate
and this is something that he's
projecting not just from or looking at
from the past 10 years
but also going forward he complains
about society a bit too
and says look when we debate things we
often see things as binary it's either
you're with me or you're against me
and not looking into the nuance of
detail or
blaming scapegoats or unfairly assigning
jaded moment motives to people like oh
you know
that person's in it for this or whatever
uh and
he also complains that media hype and
people's willingness
to uh be weaponized derail thoughtful
strategy so in other words he's saying
media folks oftentimes come to quick
conclusions
because it makes for good click bait
look at this most media and individuals
barely have time to focus on the issues
and often default to overly simplistic
binary on or off and incorrect
conclusions
that neatly fit into false political
narratives
this is a massive slam on on america
i mean he even goes on here to say that
we're stemming by self-interest
selfishness and the buildup of
bureaucratic plaque and institutional
sclerosis geez man this is
harsh from jamie dimon i mean he is
going off on
many different parts of of our country
but he does provide some examples or of
ways to solve this
more acknowledgement by democrats that
spending money
you know is is potentially an issue you
can't just spend money like crazy
but republicans need to realize that
look it's okay to have a
proper safety net for the elderly are
sick and our poor and he points to
germany and switzerland
switzerland who have impr impressive
excuse me work apprentice programs
singapore with great healthcare programs
hong kong with great infrastructure
but just copy those and don't copy what
argentina
cuba and venezuela have done he does
also give
suggestions for having this multi-year
national marshall plan where
where you solve these things like having
better training better education systems
uh goes into talking about creating more
opportunities for jobs and improving
wages
and he does give a lot of suggestions to
his problems so he doesn't
only suggest uh issues he doesn't only
rag
on america uh and in fairness he has
very good
suggestions and he gives suggestions
into exactly how we can change things
uh but folks this shareholder letter the
loudest arguments that come through this
because we know jamie dimon's not about
to change
congress the loudest arguments that are
coming through this
are that we've got massive problems uh
not
only and these are the sort of the big
bottom lines i take away from this
not only do we have big societal
problems where we're way too
divisive of a country which is leading
to slowness in congress
he gives this example of how more
soldiers died because it took
years for congress to improve on
personnel carriers in iraq and
afghanistan that weren't armored enough
to withstand ieds
and now you've got many many more people
who are dead or injured or maimed
because of ieds and he really complains
about how
dysfunctional our government is and then
look
as a market sure maybe if things keep
booming over the next few years
we're good like fine maybe these higher
valuations in the stock market are fine
but we've got to be real here inflation
could come
we've got a lot of government debt we've
got an extremely dysfunctional
government
we have in some sense i'm going a little
further here uh what what he
appears to be from allowed to summarize
in this way say
calling our society almost dysfunctional
and maybe
if he thinks society is dysfunctional
maybe he just thinks that society
or congress is just a representation of
society he's really bagging on a lot of
different things here and certainly
complaining about
fintech i mean he gave fintech a big old
boost today
we've got square square as a stock is
one of the few that's up it's up 5.14
percent
at 248 today jp morgan is up one percent
uh in fairness but definitely gave a big
boost to uh
a square when this letter came out and i
imagine other fintechs as well
but pretty scathing letter here very
interesting perspective on inflation as
well
something uh something to definitely pay
attention to and consider
that uh hey you know what we've got to
consider the fact that inflation
could actually come uh we'll see
i i uh personally what's my takeaway
well look my bottom line takeaway on
this is
jamie dimon's not going to change
society he's not going to change
congress he's not going to change the
government
there could be a lot of bureaucrats that
read this or congressmen and women who
read this or even watch this video maybe
who knows
yeah and and say yeah jamie dimon's got
a point those are all problems
back to normal back to work like this
there's
little uh you know these these changes
take decades
the systems that have been established
take decades to create and they'll take
decades to dismantle and to improve on
so yeah there are lots of problems and
the biggest takeaway i had from here is
look
yeah we might see stagnation through
higher savings rates we might see
that frugal decade this year maybe we
won't see that crazy growth that we're
expecting and maybe inflation will go up
and i think it would be very prudent for
us that even if we think
the economy is going to boom over this
next decade to at least
limit our debt limit our leverage and in
the event that we get more of these rk
goes is these hedge funds blowing up and
potentially leading to failures
in excuse me the financial system that
uh
we're we're prepared to withstand that
volatility that our portfolios
you know we're not going to go bankrupt
in our portfolios and we're not gonna
hand and paper hand by
uh by selling out just because stocks
went down a bit
uh and so we might have to get used to
this
roller coaster much more than what we
got used to in 2020 which was basically
stunks only go up anyway hopefully you
found this summary helpful
from the ceo of jpmorgan chase
i certainly found it very insightful i
appreciate you watching and folks
we'll see you in the next video
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