Confronting Matt Wallace: Donald Trump & the Collapse of America.

the only thing that maybe could save the country is also one of the scariest

things for the country I believe Bill Clinton has an island I think he still

has it and I think it is still being used can you find me a single clip of

someone losing their life from that tactic I mean maybe it exists I haven't

seen it I I think he probably would make it better president than Donald Trump

only because he's not going to say that for no reason he's warning people right

there's a scary possibility of getting closer to Communism and getting closer

to less freedom I think it's way worse than we're even able to see right now

he's already using AI in a way to manipulate elections how's Twitter

income it's it's it actually so you'd be surprised putting pretty much all of my

money in one particular thing and that is welcome back to another episode of

the meet Kevin show today we're back with Mikey but also Matt Wallace Welcome

Matt Wallace uh over 1.4 million followers on Twitter you cover trend

tring topics trending news all the time it you are the master of engagement on

on Twitter and the first engaging question I have for you is who's going

to win the election we'll start easy well unless you run

obviously I think Donald Trump right now has by far the best chance to win the

election there was a time when it looked like maybe Ron Des sis had a chance to

sneak in there he's he's fizzled out I mean he's fizzled out at the end of the

day a lot of people who I know that were considering Ting him decided not not so

much anymore it seems like Donald Trump has a clear Runway now to go against Joe

Biden he's beating him by around three points in the polls right now yeah which

is actually surprising because at the same time last election cycle like

before the election started at the same amount of time before it we saw Biden up

by I think two points on Trump the PO and a lot of people don't know this but

Trump you may know this but Trump won in 2016 by like 100,000 votes in three

states he lost in 2020 by about 100,000 votes in three states despite losing the

popular vote because the Electoral College so it's actually way easier for

Trump to pick up those few votes he needs to win than people even imagine so

if he's up in the polls right now that does not look very good for the people

who are on the side of oh I hope Trump is the nominee because I think we can

beat him it just doesn't it doesn't look good and and a lot of people think based

on what I post that I'm just like super far right I'm really not I mean at the

end of the day I just want to see the country back on track with the economy I

just want to see us have a good future I mean it's frustrating to watch when

they're going trillions of dollars into debt trillions I mean with the te like

come on like what are they doing and to watch them sell special interest groups

all the time it's just frustrating and if someone can come in and fix that it

it just it would make life better for the rest of our future do you think

somebody like VI can fix that I I I'm starting to warm up to him I really am I

mean I was skeptical at first of course you know he's he's coming onto the scene

he's coming on hot I I do feel like he's starting to kind of make some inroads

though he's the only person and you could say maybe he's he's putting on act

but you can't you can only put on act for so long I mean at some point you

have to realize that's that's really what what he's doing like those are his

opinions he's the only person that's willing to say things that you're not

allowed to say quote unquote right and he doesn't recite all the talking points

that the other candidates recite based on what they have to because of who

their donors are so he's pretty blunt and you kind of have to appreciate that

you know that's was one of the things people really liked about Trump was that

he has this uh very simple way of speaking uh and very clear like people

thought well at least I know where he stands rather than getting a a runaround

political jargon answer I think maybe is that potentially what people felt out of

Dan santis a little bit maybe yeah it seems and he was the santis I feel like

has gotten worse as uh VR has gotten better it's interesting how how that

works viv's taking over but then there's Nikki as well taking it she yeah I mean

Nicki Haley's her popularity rating though online is absolutely in the

garbage I mean she because she's pushing so much of the proar stuff which is just

a real big turnoff to anyone who understands that they're only pushing

that so hard because they get paid through the back end through it whether

it's donors or special interest groups that are yeah all that stuff and I I I

think another interesting thing is about about Viva he when he first started he

didn't look like he knew what he was doing really no one knows what they're

doing for real for real when they first started you have to get a hang of it and

i' I've watched him to where he didn't really know what he was doing interviews

and not a lot of people maybe even noticed that you can tell if you're if

you've done them before like you can see the little things where he's like okay

he's really trying to get the hang of it now though I feel like he has that

handle on it like he's he's gotten a lot better at it which is it's interesting

to see the development of candidats rather than just like who they are after

they're already at that point that's a good point so a lot of practice that

he's getting now how much do you think the the spread flip between Biden and

Trump that you just referred to is because of the economy oh I mean huge

percentage of it when you're looking at gas that's now twice as expensive in

many cases when you're looking at grocery store prices and and to be fair

Trump did allow too much money to be spent when it comes to the national debt

approximately 7 trillion under under Donald Trump most of that in terms of

like the biggest spending was around three to four trillion in just really

the covid years and a lot of people say okay well look at what the president did

Obama around 8 trillion in his 8 years Joe Biden's already at like 6 something

trillion nearing above 7 trillion in only three years which is insane I mean

look at Congress though that's the most important thing if there's a congress

that's willing to spend a lot of money get back door deals and that type of

thing that's where you're going to see that happening the most regardless of

who's President wow last week you asked if uh people thought Elon Musk would

make a better president than Joe Biden My question is do you think Elon mus

make a better president than Trump oo interesting question um so right now I I

I I think he probably would make a better president than Donald Trump only

because he just simply Works an insane amount even more than Trump and Trump

works a lot I think Trump in his first term will be significantly worse for a

president than Trump in his second term so I I will put the caveat maybe in his

second term Donald Trump will be better than Elon Musk because he has so much

more experience he does have faults though Trump did not do everything

perfect he did make a lot of mistakes trusting people he shouldn't have

trusted hiring the wrong people Elon Musk I feel like would make better

decisions at for a first term maybe Trump would be better for a second term

we'll have to find out I guess wow do you think uh Trump will make it I mean

it looks like it's going to come down to the Supreme Court do you think he'll be

on the ballot if Trump's not on the ballot I mean what do we do at that

point if they can find a way to succeed in that it'll be pretty ridiculous and

another another thing I will add that people say oh you mus can't run cuz he's

not United States citizen yeah that's true but I mean just change the law let

let him should that change I I don't know probably not to be honest but uh

it's just it's fun to theorize about that just have fun I've kind of thought

about it because I was born in Germany uh and so I ran for governor California

and I'm like it is interesting not saying that anybody would actually vote

for me for president but it is interesting that you know you could be

born with a different color of skin or born in a different location uh but and

kind of like is there a potential equivalence between racism of the color

of your skin and while you're born in a different country therefore you can't do

something interesting I would hope not I mean it's I feel like you never really

meet people that will openly I've never met someone at least that will openly

say I'm judging someone based on oh yeah no of course like I feel like it's not

like a huge thing but at the end of the day it does make sense that you want

someone who has experienced culture here who grew up here that's a good point but

if you if you moved here I know you moved here when you're pretty young so

18th right so I mean it doesn't there maybe there should be a rule that

like if you moved here when you were a child you know and you you got to

experience it or even if you didn't as long as you like truly have if there's a

way you could put someone on a lictor test and know for sure if they really

have the best interest at heart right that would be better than most people

from the United States who are President anyway so I mean you know I guess it's

it's hard to say who would be the best person at any given election cycle and a

lot of is just media attention I mean really we would be better served to just

have like a super a super good business person be in charge of the economy and

that should have nothing to do with all the social issues why do we have the

same person deciding social issues that's deciding the economy those are

two completely different things you can't have the best of both it's it just

doesn't make any sense so you're almost thinking somebody should be responsible

for hey look here's our our welfare our housing assistance our social security

our Medicare and then somebody else should run the rest of the budget like a

business so to speak it would have to be structured in a way that would work

because that would be very difficult to do if it can be structured correctly I

do think that could actually work better especially in in the modern day and age

it used to not be so much that way back in the day you know like 100 150 years

ago there wasn't really so much of a problem with that because the best

people wanted to be in those positions there wasn't the internet to cause all

the drama and and people just typically voted because they wanted to have the

right issues be done better now people tend to vote for but in my opinion

issues that the federal government should have absolutely nothing to do

with because that's a distraction from their actual job which is to make sure

our are better what do you think will be a bigger weight in voting this election

the economy or those single issue voter uh priorities uh in terms of swinging

who wins interesting I mean I hate to say it it I hope it's the economy

because that's if if we don't fix the national

debt problem right now we're going to come to a point which anyone who is in

finance like like yourself you know we're going to default on the debt

eventually eventually it's you can't just keep racking up de forever people

aren't going to want to buy US Treasury bonds anymore at some point it will fail

if it's not fixed quickly and it may not be possible at this point to really have

a soft Landing we're going to be not only screwed we're going to be screwed

in such a way that Generations will feel that and all for what it's not like they

built up some massive safety structure I mean already the even look at the oil

reserves for example already that's mostly drained yeah from the Biden

Administration look at what if they built with that $33 trillion in debt

that's sustainable long term all of it has been on short-term spending stuff

most of which could have been done way more efficiently oh do we I mean for

example I'm supposed to in theory be for the military which is ridiculous that's

kind of like the way they they've structured that issue uh but uh I don't

I don't support anything I'm supposed to support I just look at it and say what's

the best thing regardless of what should I say what shouldn't I I don't care I'm

just going to say the truth which is that you shouldn't be spending a

trillion dollars on the military per year when every country has the ability

to wipe another country off the planet in a few seconds if it gets to the point

where you have to use your full force you're already at that point where

you're not going to need your full force because you're going to be on the next

level which is I'm not going to say the word because we're on YouTube demonetize

the video but uh you know what it is like if they drop the big ones yeah what

does it matter that you have a $50 million attack helicopter you know like

what what's that going to do is there an argument that I mean some people make

this argument that well if if we spend money in all the different areas that

we're in so whether it's in trying to stabilize the Red Sea which I guess that

didn't work out recently uh or Israel and Gaza the money I mean we're

basically financing their War uh the Israeli

incursion we're financing the Ukrainian defense on the Eastern block and uh I

mean the foreign aid that we send to every country from Egypt to European

countries is is uh I mean vast what what's your take is there a chance that

that without that sort of spending we get closer to that uh the big one uh

problem versus just keep spending the money and maintain the status quo so the

way I look at it is every single

country that would not get to the level where you have to go to the big ones

wish I wish I could just say the word come on YouTube like fix that come on

what are you doing I don't want to demonetize your

video maybe you don't care but whatever but uh the the point is if it gets to

that point there like maybe I don't know the exact number but there's a certain

number of countries that have that capability all of the rest of them the

United States could easily B with 10% of the power or less so it's like I I I do

think it's important to have enough strength to prevent that I don't think

it requires a trillion dollars a year while you're $33 trillion in debt

because if we get to the point where the US dollar is extremely unstable that's

way more dangerous in terms of getting to the big one than anything else by a

magnitude of of many times over so the highest priority is maintaining strength

in the dollar you prevent uh losing the leverage that you have in the first

place could uh dollar is supporting companies like Boeing which I guess

they're really good at keeping the doors on I don't know if you saw the

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make it easy for you what about cryptocurrencies like could could that

protect our uh uh you know help solve some of the issues that we face with our

economy and our spending problem absolutely I mean cryptocurrency is the

only way right now to tell the government F you economically it's the

only way where you can go around being so dependent on the decisions of

bureaucrats who often only have their best interest in mind so I think

cryptocurrency will definitely experience not only many more bull runs

it's it's probably going to be the type of thing where if you're holding it now

you will get extraordinarily wealthy from it if you're holding at least not

doesn't have to be a lot if you're holding just a decent amount like enough

you like I I don't want to put an exact number on it but if you have what's your

price Target what's what's the exact amount yeah yeah but but yeah I do think

people who are investing in cryptocurrency in a serious way now will

see significant returns and and that's because it's going to provide value to a

lot of people and already is but it's going to get better and and as the

governments get worse which they are doing more corrupt worse managing the

economy it's going to be more important effort that we do it ourselves and

crypto is the way to do that do you think there's a way the United States

could actually be in a very strong economy come around the election stock

market up real estate market maybe didn't crash uh uh and and people have

jobs and there's jobless low joblessness still is there a chance then that spread

between the low sentiment we have now for the economy flips to positive

sentiment which means do people vote for Biden in that swing interesting I mean

the question is how much longer can a stickman be propped up the US economy is

being held up by fake legs can it hold up for another year

maybe can it hold up for another 5 years maybe can it hold up for 10 years I

don't think that's possible POS I really don't you think there's implosion within

the next 10 years because of the debt of course there's no doubt about it there

will be an implosion probably within the next 10 years probably before then

there's a few big things that are happening like for example a lot of uh

companies are going to have to restructure the way their loans are at a

much higher rate now some of them will go out of business a lot of them maybe

how are they going to be able to survive with such a higher interest rate all of

a sudden I mean it's not a good thing at all when you when you go from 2% to 8 9

10% right in like what a year I mean it's it's it's not sustainable I I I

think even if the economy balances out a little bit temporarily people understand

that people have a feeling people understand where it's going it's already

gotten so much worse Biden has the ability to win

technically speaking but it would only be if uh his opponent which is most

likely going to be Donald Trump really really bombs and he seems to be running

a smart campaign strategy right now which is not being too out there right

even though it's annoying at times because it's interesting to see the

debates and stuff but I I feel like his campaign strategy is a little bit

smarter this this election cycle and that will bold well when it comes time

for uh you know the election to roll around that's Trump's uh strategy yeah I

think I think it's a little bit better this this election cycle he doesn't seem

to be but but then again the media obviously will play a role in that and

they're going to ramp things up as as everyone knows that they're seems like

his best advertising right now are all of the uh attacks against him so all of

the lawsuits and you know whether it's Maine or the Colorado ballot issues

every time or or even you know when he has his mug shot I mean that was a big

fundraising time uh which it it's interesting because it seems like no

matter how much he's attacked by the existing government or the mainstream

media uh it actually just helps him what do you think of that yeah I mean I think

it I to be honest I don't think it has too much of an impact on moving the

needle people just want to have a good economy right now people people don't

care as much about the social ISS that that they did in the past at this

point when when you can't afford to keep your family healthy and and E you know

it's people stop caring so much about top priorities inflation yeah I mean I

could see it shifting a little bit more you know if if there's enough

manipulation but one thing a lot of people don't realize that happened in

the last election cycle the way people vote was changed drastically almost

overnight and they right they took advantage of that um and uh what I think

a lot of people should look at is is the fact that there

is there's a cult in the United States right now there's a cult that seriously

has the intention to change the culture of the United States forever I call it

the WL cult the W cult is uh it's a good phrase It's a good phrase W cult they

are in a position right now and and there there are many Democrats who are

who are amazing people that just want to have a better like some of them are

confused maybe some of them aren't it just depends I mean there's Republicans

that are confused too I mean I I don't want I'm definitely not Republic I'm

definitely not Democrat I just want good people to win and that sounds cliche I

mean know oh it's a cool thing to say oh you're so cool no I mean anyone can say

that it's but to actually stick to it and vote based on that is a little

difficult at times because you can get swept up and everything but at the end

of the day the way they change that and because there's a cult here's something

that happened in a bunch of households Across America parents who are part of

that I I think we can call it a c I think it's fair to say that it's

basically their religion they they care about that more than anything else in

their life besides maybe their family they chose to get their kids to vote all

you have to do you get your kid a mailing ballot you can fill it out for

them sure and then technically that's legal and if you're part of a cult

you're going to care a lot more about doing that and and forcing a lot of

those kids over 18 wouldn't have voted unless their parents made them because

of the way the voting structure changed that's why there were so many more votes

than the election before that's why we saw Joe really winning I mean if that

didn't happen also Donald Trump did make the mistake of telling people not to do

that and not really taking advantage of it so he needs to he absolutely needs to

take for that um but at at the end of the day that right there unless there's

a strategy put in place to make it so that it's not just very one-sided when

it comes to the mail and ballots it's going to be difficult for Trump to win I

think he's going to do that though and I think it will it will succeed but we'll

have to see I mean it's definitely it's a scary time because of how many changes

have been appointed I mean they basically I said I I think that's as

close to stealing the election as you can possibly get is the mail inbalance

is the mail inbalance is changing the way votes are and using that in a way

where technically you're not breaking the rules but you just change them so

that you're not breaking them so it's like I mean I don't know it's it's it's

a very complicated uh you think Trump can leverage encouraging people to use

mail and ballots as well to maybe balance that out of course I mean if if

Trump is able to really capitalize on that I think it's going to be an easy

election for him to win Will he win the popular vote I don't know I think it

could that popular vote will be close but in terms of the Electoral College a

smart strategy where you pick and choose to run effective campaigns to get more

mail and balloting in those States will probably win I mean I think he'll

probably win in that situation based on the current polling data got to get

Republicans to do the early voting the early voting are you a fan of the elect

electoral college or is it something that you think is outdated I think

electoral college is one of the only things protecting the country right now

in a perfect country where you didn't have mass illegal immigration where a

huge percentage of the time those people come in not understanding the culture

not understanding what's best for the future and uh even if they can't vote

their kids can and that's you know that's part of the system right but when

you have millions of people who have a completely different culture coming into

a country and then they're raised in a different way with a different value

system which not is not necessarily bad right but at the end of the day that can

lead to more votes for one party than the other if if that didn't happen if

there was a perfect system then maybe we wouldn't need the electoral college but

because of what they're doing right now I feel like it's it's it's crucial it's

it's holding the country together because then you can't just have a bunch

of illegal immigrants go into one state and flip the entire entire country like

if California is experiencing that at big time right now if the Electoral

College didn't exist they would ramp up even more legal immigration into

California and then say look now it's easy for us to win because we have

that's already why the popular voice changed so much over over the last over

30 years that is interesting because California's already maxed out

essentially on its electoral college going to the Democratic candidate but

now if you had an extra two million voters let's say all of a sudden in

California you could swing the popular vote so that's an interesting comparison

that the Electoral College could minimize that the selection is going to

be interesting because we have assuming Trump wins the primary we're going to

have two candidates that have already been president so people have already

seen them in office for four years how many people who vote for Trump or Biden

do you think are voting because they support the candidate versus just

opposing the other candidate that's a good question I feel like this election

will be less so there will still be a lot of that obviously I feel like people

are familiar so much with the two candidates now that it's not going to be

as much of the I hate the other guy so I'm voting for it's more just like I

want these policies so I'm going to vote for this person I feel it'll be more

like that still though mostly yes it'll be I hate the other person I mean it

just it just depends I guess it it would be nice if uh someone even more I mean

Joe Biden's a terrible president I don't think anyone I've never met someone in

real life right who who says I love Joe Biden he's the best presid ever maybe

they exist somewhere I don't meet those people and I don't know who does but uh

I think if Joe Biden if someone even less popular like even worse even more

hated than him is put as the nominee which is a possibility then that could

lead to a really hate filled election where that is the primary motivating

factor Joe Biden though people are familiar with him is not as much going

to be there's a uh this rumor that's been circulating that uh which has

happened in Prior elections I can't remember exactly which one but basically

even in the primaries as as late as like June or July switch the candidate right

at the end and throw in like a Gavin Nome or something like that do you think

something like that could happen I heard you talking about that some on your show

but Gavin Nome at the end of the day is is perhaps one of the on a policy level

least effective politicians of all time I I I ran against yeah I know so good

job I can't disagree I was rooting for you I was rooting for you and I I think

you had a smart strategy too cuz you didn't you didn't try to play it super

like oh I'm on this side versus this side you just like hey you know Common

Sense which again like technically that's like the easy thing to do I feel

like now it's not cool anymore but it's still right whether it's cool or not

anymore and uh and at the end of the day if you had one California would have

been better oh thank you so I I hope I hope if if you run again I I really hope

you win pull apprciate it pull off auner there there we go California needs a

little love yes so but but I guess on the on the topic of of them flipping

maybe even somebody else like could is this going to be a do you think this is

a Biden Trump rematch or are we going to get juked here at the so this is what I

think people people who are President you get to have 400 or more servants

that are helping you 24/7 there's someone to do every single thing for you

get the best food you get the best places you get constant media attention

which can be fun sometimes right bully pulpit y yeah so so you get it's it's a

really fun job in some ways now there's a lot of hard things to it it's

stressful right but I believe Joe Biden very much wants to keep being in that

position because he gets all of the nice amenities from kind of cool yeah yeah I

I don't I don't think Joe Biden wants to be president as much as he wants all of

the things that come with it the benefits of it cuz he has a lot of

people in his administration that are doing a lot of the work for him anyway

so he just gets to have a nice easy vacation which is pathetic and

absolutely dreadful for the country because we don't have a strong leader

who's doing a good job and maybe it would be even worse if he was trying to

do things I don't know but but but the point is I I believe he

would try to win again because of that okay and so I I think if he's trying

he'll probably win just based on all historical data and the fact there's no

clear candidate that could take over in his place Biden would win out of the

Democrats yeah I think he'll wi out of the Democrats I think most likely what

happened with Ivanka and Kushner why why does it why do they seem so distanced

from Donald Trump now I think at the end of the day both of them don't really

have as much of America's best interest at heart as other people he could hire

would have oh wow as a familiar level that's why they they got in those

positions I really hope he learned that ianka Jared shouldn't have important

positions in the administration if he wins probably wins he wins hopefully

right and uh I do think there's a couple people that maybe could even be better

as president than Donald Trump but none of them have a chance to win of the

people who have a chance to win Donald Trump is is by far the best option

because he already has the experience of of multiple failures multiple successes

he won't do the failures hopefully next time and he will do successes hiring I

think one of the most important things I've always said the smartest thing a

president could do would be instead of hiring from the pool that's there

literally I that was an interesting way to pronounce that word literally but

literally maybe I watched Andro Tate beforehand I don't know but uh if you

just make applications come in if you applications hire from the public and

literally find the best people and hire them don't care about anyone who's like

a couple people you need that have had experience right to help guide the way

like a Rudy everybody so you're saying dra the swamp poy poy

yeah and Trump didn't do as much as he could really

truly let everyone apply be careful screen people do a good job make sure

people have experience make sure people are smart but don't hire just because

they've done something or been in a position or know someone really hire the

best and if that is done and you don't have the same group of people it's like

a gang a mafia in charge then our country country will get significantly

better and I have faith that at least to some degree Donald Trump will be capable

of putting together a cabinet that doesn't have those people next time it's

hard but it's possible including I ianka and Jared I really hope they are not

part of the administration in any serious way are you in support of having

like an age cap for presidency and if so what would that number be or

69ine yeah nice I mean I mean it's no further questions like if if if we do

see some someone who who is really good and who's older there are exceptions

right but at the end of the day I do think you'd be more likely to have good

candidates in the future Donald Trump being the obvious person in question

here because he is over that age so like if you made it that way right now he

couldn't win then you say who would win and I I I don't think it would be fair

to say okay we're going to change law to make it so Trump can't want run or can't

can't win and he is very vibrant he doesn't seem like he's old right now

like Biden does so you can't exclude Trump by changing law but if you change

it for the future and there's no one excluded automatically from that then I

do think that could be a good like at the beginning of a president's second

term you change a rule or something like that something like that um is um is

Epstein still alive I saw a tweet of yours within the last 24 hours I saw a

tweet that Epstein's alive as well as a tweet of proof that he was murder yeah

yeah yeah so I'm curious like what what do you think actually happened to him so

the Tweet about him still being live is Megan Kelly on her show said that she is

going to allow us to hear from Epstein himself so it seemed like okay she's

hinting he's still alive I personally don't believe he's still alive there's a

possibility of it I do I do believe he was murdered and uh I I believe very

powerful people did it which if you don't believe that I mean it's it's

possible not to believe it right but if you look at the camera evidence the

camera's going off if if you look at the fact that there's so many people who if

he stayed alive had a very strong possibility of going to prison for the

rest of their lives sure if you're going to go to the prison for the rest of your

life that's an extremely strong motivating factor to take someone's life

and I I am fully understanding the fact they're capable of doing that they had

the motivation to do it and all the circumstances surrounding are so weird

unusual MH most likely that is exactly what happened and uh if you're gilan

Maxell right now you shouldn't feel safe at all uh she doesn't know as much as

she seems to have been silenced to some degree more so than him I don't know

what tactic was used to make that happen but uh but yeah I mean I I do believe

there's technically a small possibility he's still alive i' say it's very very

very small and uh it it is fun it is fun though to speculate on that like I mean

like you'll see like if I make a tweet about it it's because it's interesting

not necessarily because uh there's a high probability of that happening is is

that the strategy on on X or or old Twitter like fun fun speculation like

how do you balance fun spec from news how does that work you know I mean it

can be I think at the end of the day the amount of community note posts that I

get compared to Elon Musk for example it's around the same okay comparison I

mean compared to probably less than mainstream media though yeah I get

significantly I have a significantly higher credibility rating than the

mainstream media obviously if you're posting breaking news right after

happens constantly you're not going to get everything right but the vast

majority I have a very very very high level of understanding that if I post

accurate information consistently that's going to be the best strategy long term

to making sure people are happy and and want to come to you for information you

have to make sure that is the case but at the same time I'm not going to be

afraid from saying I believe this crazy thing may be true we have to look into

it more because if you say I believe this crazy thing may be true 10 times

it's going to be true a few of those times so you have to you have to spec

and if you don't say any of those 10 times then you're not going to be

bringing attention to something important for those a different

perspective exactly uh now for the um Epstein situation you know the Clinton's

names came up a lot uh Hillary Clinton's been trending for like the last 48 hours

and today's interestingly j6 we're filming this on uh that's funny funny

time yeah yeah uh what do you think about uh Hillary apparently the the

comment that came up in the last documents was that uh Maxwell went to

Hillary's daughter's wedding as opposed to going to a deposit I and she

pretended that she pretended to be sick for implying this connection between the

two uh there was also this allegation from Virginia that uh Bill Clinton

stormed into Vanity Fair threatening them not to write stories on Jeffrey

Epstein what's going on here with the clintons so I I believe that that is

something he would do I mean if there are cameras at the same level there are

cameras now at the time that happened I feel like we'd have footage of it

because there's no footage you just have to take word of mouth I mean

the clintons have had a lot of people losing their life who are connected to

them they've had so many strange things happening to them at so if it's a couple

things here or there you can say it's coincidence when it's that overwhelming

you just have to face the truth which is that those two people are horrendous

individuals who have their self-interest in mind a lot of the times and also just

seem to be motivated by pure evil at other times and that's that's I mean

that's a strong statement right but Bill Clinton in the Oval Office was bringing

in essentially hookers I mean I mean I mean maybe you wouldn't call them

hookers but he was bringing in women we know about Monica Lewinsky there was

many more obviously like we're not stupid anyone who's bringing in women to

the Oval Office when you have a wife that's also living in that same house

and getting caught and then lying boldface about it obviously there's so

much more under the covers pun intended than

[Laughter] then then what we're being told I that's

like the photo of Bill sitting at the Oval Office picture theal office they're

two people in this photo it's funny right but but it's also

horrific I mean we're talking about with Epstein proven over and over and over

again through these documents and and through what what's been investigated

these are underage girls it's not people over the age of 18 I mean you can say oh

he's a bad person if it's over the age of 18 when it becomes under the age of

18 when you're talking about children that goes from bad person to truly evil

despicable person and if you don't think with all the fights he took on Epstein's

plane if you don't think with all the already sexual drama surrounding him

that he was not engaged at all in that if when he's trying to silence the media

I mean connect the dots right I mean it's it's it's I believe he was part of

it Hillary obviously was in on it knew everything along the way she was named

as a witness in the documents along with other people even being named as a

witness I mean that's that's right there scary stuff I mean that she saw things

happen that were bad and helped to cover them up whether it's threats violence

whatever it is that's scary stuff and thank God she wasn't the president of

the United States that would have been it would have been awful I mean would

she have been better than Biden on a policy level who knows he's so awful I

mean I feel like anyone would but but still I mean on on a social level the

things she would have done the damage she would have caused would have been

irreputable she would have destroyed the United States wow more than people

thought she would have been like a continuation of Barack Obama did did you

think that would be different then um huh I guess that also depends on if you

like OB I mean maybe on a policy level some of the things would have been

similar there would have been more War uh there would have been

more solely on the level of causing conflict on a global scale I think there

would it would have been worse I think we would have had less less stability

less safety Hillary Clinton is one of the most evil people that's ever walked

the face of the planet so I putting her in that position would would be it would

be a suicide it would be awful so it's it's scary stuff hey by the way if you

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Channel link down below so interesting that uh you know we didn't have a Russia

invasion during the previous uh uh election Cycles here or uh the is

counter attack to the Hamas attack as severe under a previous Republican

president that is something that's been coming up a lot do you think that is

just a coincidence or do you think that's potentially because of the nature

of the way uh Trump's Oval Office operated versus say Biden yeah I that's

a good question at the end of the day Putin is he's human right he's going to

make mistakes he's going to make decisions uh that often times go against

the best interest of of his country I don't think it was the the smart move to

do that I I think uh he shouldn't have done that right but at the end of the

day if Trump was in office it wouldn't have happened he he had the enough

respect and enough fear healthy fear that he wouldn't have done that he

didn't do it there's a reason why Trump is one of the least War presidents we've

ever had in the history of of the country and uh that is because of the

way he led and the way he talked to people and and I mean look at him on the

appr this like he he knows what he he he's he does a good job of talking to

people he does a good job afraid of yeah I mean you're fir you're

fired you're nuked who's next I I actually before I think was

like 2014 I don't remember exactly the year but it was a good bit before Trump

even announced he was going to run for office I watched The Apprentice and I

said that guy's going to be president oh wow that if that guy I feel like that I

could be a good president and uh he was actually he I feel like the Trump from

then would have been an even better president because he was even I don't

know I feel like he was even better back then they feel like different people I

will say they feel like very different weird like I I don't know he still did a

good job right but I feel like I feel like hopefully Trump will be his old

self again I think a lot of people who were influencing him in in the wrong way

threw him off his first term for so many things his second term I feel like he'll

be his old self hopefully again and if he is it's going to be tremendous for

the country so you think it wasn't so much a trump issue term one it was more

his staff oh I mean that was a huge part of it and and I'm not gonna let Trump

off the hook either sure I mean he he let them influence him he hired them

right he could have done better and uh and one of the reasons it's important to

say that is because he needs to make sure and I'm going to be pushing for

this I'm going to be trying to influence it to the degree I can he needs to make

sure that if he does win again when he wins again he'll do a better job wow uh

do you think he committed an Insurrection on

j6 that's that's no I I I I think uh not

even close I mean not he didn't commit an insruction anymore than uh Bernie

Sanders caused people to get shot at at the baseball game you can't control

first of all what other people do and it wasn't an Insurrection in fact it was

significantly less intense than what we saw with the BLM riots for way longer of

a period of time with way more people losing their lives compared to really

one and it was one of the people who was entering the capital there Ashley babbit

reference Ashley babbit yep they at first it like there were some people

there who were like acting kind of crazy right but after that point had broken

through once they were inside the capital building people said for example

that there was uh bodily fluids that were spread on the capital there wasn't

there's no proof of that no one's ever shown evidence of that people said that

they were calling officers racial slurs again with all the video all the cameras

all the people taking their own footage not a single bit of evidence that that

ever happened not even a credible witness saying it did so they obviously

they lied about it in in a huge way it is so bizarre because I I remember

covering the Insurrection live it was uh what one of my longest live streams like

10 hours long or something like that it was it was scary to watch it was very

scary to watch from the perspective that we they should exactly and and then

seeing over time some of the uh ceiling footage come out of people walking down

the hallway with some of the officers and the officers are opening doors for

them it I felt like I was watching two different worlds like what I saw on that

day was very different from what I see in the surveillance footage and it's

it's very conflicting it's like how do you reconcile that and the other point

is if Trump wanted to try to overthrow the government I don't think he could

succeed no matter what that's I mean that's a extremely difficult task that

no one for certifying the election and his argument is that uh as I know you

know but for viewers to remember is uh that that Pence could have stopped the

certification should Pence have stopped the

certification I mean at the end of the day I think the most important thing was

to have it in a position where they're not allowed to cheat where they're not

allowed to change the mailon ballots you should have done it beforehand you

shouldn't wait till after you you they they needed to stop the cheating from

happening before once you've already let them do it if you play a pickup

basketball game and someone's fing you the whole game and you say afterwards

well you found me the whole game you didn't win like you have to call it at

the beginning that's what I think should have happened um do you think there was

significant amount of election fraud in the last election define fraud I mean

yeah there's a lot of manipulation let's let's just put it that way there's a lot

of I I think they didn't necessarily Break The Rules right but they change

the rules so that they could do that without breaking

so I'm not going to rule it out I I I could certainly see there is a lot of

evidence that it may have happened um I'm not going to roll out at all but at

the end of the day if Trump really wanted to overthrow the government he's

not a a murder you have you would have to take people's lives to do that you

can't over no overthrowing of a government has ever happened without a

lot of people in positions of power losing their life in order for that to

happen or being thrown in prison losing their life has to be all of that Trump

doesn't have the capability to murder people or even order other people to do

so in that capacity he he he would never do that he if he really wanted to he

could have tried a significantly by magnitude of like a 100 times more

intense effort to do that he didn't actually try to overthrow the government

and I I mean could he handled some things better sure but at the end of the

day the way the media is portraying it even still at this point is ridiculous

and and it's it's and only because they want to use that to try to get votes in

the next election that's it that's their motivation you've commented about Bill

Gates using AI to try to interfere with elections around the world this year

that's going to happen he's going to do it could you elaborate on that and then

also mention if that's going to happen in the United States or just in foreign

countries oh oh it's going to happen in in multiple countries and and I mean I

hope the capabilities aren't aren't strong enough yet we don't know a lot of

what's really happening behind the scenes with AI it's probably scarier

than we even know according Elon Musk is warning about it but they can easily

propagandize millions of people using AI they can Target you based on specific

things that can emotionally trigger you and and that's already happened a lot

even without AI but with AI the capability to do that is scary and so

his ability to manipulate people even just like you don't it's not even a

conspiracy theory look at who he's funding he's giving millions and

millions and hundreds of millions of dollars to these media groups that are

already trying to propagandize people they're using AI more and more to Target

specific emotional traits in people so so even even without having like you I

think it's way worse than we're even able to see right now based on multiple

factors but even without that if you just look at what you can clearly see in

plain day he's already using AI in a way to manipulate elections and and so it's

that needs to be stopped I mean well it's almost like identifying the what is

AI is is one of the challenges uh and so I think there was even one tweet from uh

you it was um do you support her message it was this one with uh the basically a

girl in in a track outfit here it looks like and then uh the text not a dude

which is interesting it's funny got noted yeah it's apparently it's not it's

not apparently it was AI I didn't know I thought it was real and I actually

thought it was like okay like there are a lot of women who are actually

supporting this message right now because you know women don't believe

it's fair to have to fight it I think it was just the boxing League or one one of

the boxing uh uh groups that is is now allowing uh uh male born uh transgender

women to box biological females and so this is like the the counterrevolution

to that uh so but but I had no idea that was AI it's it's it's amazing it's it's

incredible so what like how do we solve that like how do we trust anything

anymore yeah I mean it's it's there are some technologies that allow you to do

that but that's the thing it's going to be hard to trust anything and and uh

another thing I'll say is that when it come I want to speak on this just

briefly we go back to AI but yeah right now I think parents need to step up

there's a lot of parents who are sitting on the sidelines and if their daughter

is forced to compete against people who have significant advantage of them

because they were born as a male right that's not fair I have a daughter I hope

she's going to like sports I like sports I I think I'm sure she'll enjoy them

Maybe not maybe she will we'll see but if she has to

compete in that capacity against someone who's born as as a male I will run on

that field I will I am not going to be okay with that I will not sit on the

sidelines and watch her be discriminated against like that and the way you know

these people really just want to hurt our culture and hurt women is because

they're not pushing for a separate league for people they want them to

compete with women why is that so odd to think that there should just be a

separate League like hey if you were born a male and now you're taking

hormone replacement or whatever and and you want to be a identify as a female or

be a female whatever uh have a separate league and well the thing is I think a

lot of a lot of the people who are doing this wouldn't get that same feeling like

they probably they probably get like a sick pleasure out of beating women I'm

sure a lot of them do and I don't think they would get that same feeling like

they're like haha like it's like it's disgusting that people are allowing that

to happen and if there's a separate League it probably I mean first of all

no one watch it like I mean it like why would anyone watch that it's it's not

going to be entertaining really I mean it's it's not going to be the best

athletes of of in any capacity just statistically speaking it's almost

impossible to happen like for example like the the swimmer Leo Thomas however

you say her name she or he what whatever you want to say

right sure they they were when it came to the men's meet they were really low

down right in the hundreds like really bad men's meat to be clear competi

competing against men no chance competing against women now you're

number one so like if there was a separate League it wouldn't be very

entertaining so I don't know I I I that's the only solution that would not

require uh I mean you can't have women having to compete against people born so

you have to do something else if they want to do that I don't care go do it

but you can't have that it is interesting I have uh you know I've now

uh two uh two twin girls they're two and a half months old it almost feels like

how things are now do I even encourage them to go into sports you know it's

kind of like uh who was it Gary vaynerchuk he says why would I get into

politics if I know I can't win the game because he wasn't born in America so he

said well I can't be president so why bother at all could that same thing be

happening to women now who are already of competing age across the country who

say you know what why bother if I can't win because I wasn't born a man who's

identifying as a woman I I don't know it then of course the counterargument is

well men who are transitioning are meeting certain biological thresholds

based on hormone levels or whatever and so should they therefore then be

qualified or eligible I don't know what do you think about all that yeah I mean

that's interesting point I would say no one should leave their daughter out of

sports fight fight fight they want to win and by whenn they want to destroy

our culture they want to replace it with a religion of wokeness that's their goal

and if we allow them to win without fighting then they're going to make it

even worse after that it's it's it's at the point now where it's really our last

chance to kind of save the United States in the capacity that that it's been in

the past where it's been an awesome country where you want to live if if we

don't save it now it won't happen so fight for it you know that's that's what

that's what I would say to anyone out there who has a daughter and is worried

about that got it and uh do you think immigration now clearly we've got a

border crisis is this amplifying the problem that we face in America oh I

mean it's it's massively amplifying it when you look right now there are more

this is an important stat you can't argue against this it's around six times

as many illegal immigrants coming in per month than under President Trump even

for some of his worst uh months in terms of illegal immigration there are more

people consistently coming in per month illegally than there are births of

citizens of the United States this is like the the encounters uh statistic IC

right births versus encounters I mean how they measure it also yeah they could

be underestimating it's so interesting how they they came up with the phrase

encounters during covid which was while Trump was still president and there was

a spike right after Biden came in we were looking at that we thought this is

so interesting uh I think uh Trump was actually campaigning on the idea that if

Biden wins there'll be a a surge of of migrants who attempt to come to the

borders million uh and uh we just had this summer I think it was either the

end of June or end of July uh over 400,000 Venezuelans who came here were

granted amnesty which is probably twice the actual number since more people are

probably applying suggesting they were here so it's probably an understated

number and the reality is actually higher do you think that all of those

individuals should just be sent back or how well how do you how do you handle it

I mean is there anything else do I want to do that no I mean is that the only

way to potentially solve it probably like what else can you do you can't if

you look at right now many countries in South America there's a lot of awesome

countries there like that that are cool maybe You' enjoy living there but

they're different than the United States lot poor a lot of them are poor there's

a lot more corruption often times there's a lot more crime there's a lot

of things about them that are very different a lot of those things are in

negative ways and if our country just becomes an extension of South America it

will be different and I don't think it will be a difference that most people

who like the United States as it is Will enjoy if because if they did they would

move there they would go to those countries and so it's it's it's scary

that we may be forced to completely have our our our country change forever and

not be able to do anything about it and the more it changes the easier it is to

keep changing it because if you do come over illegally you're going to be okay

with more people coming sometimes I me I hope that changes and there are some

people who came over illegally and like oh I don't want any more people coming

like we're we're good now but uh or people who came legally and say I don't

want people coming illegally because that's not fair I wait right so there's

there's those things but at some point you have to

say only have if you can have talented people coming you can have a fair amount

coming in each year but if there keeps being this many legal immigrants you're

going to have to shut down legal immigration too and try to shut down

legal immigration just to try to catch up with deporting a lot of the people

who are here is that is that nice to do no do I want to be in a situation where

you have to deport people no I mean those are people who are acting their

own best interest many of us if we were them probably would do the same thing

right smart to do that if you're them but that still doesn't make it okay I

think if you live in a country in South America make your country better you can

do that become an obis of power take away some of the corruption help to

stimulate the economy there are things you can do there don't give up on your

country and come to someone else's country CH like Javier

Malay just give everyone here we go we'll give every single person everyone

gets a chance send Oprah down there chance don't send her down there that's

actually kind of scary but uh do you think legal immigration is too

difficult should be made easier do you think it's too easy should be made more

difficult or do you think it's right where it needs to be that's that's a

good that's a good point I mean probably a little bit I mean

ideally in a perfect world you would have people from all different cultures

coming to the United States at a very small level that doesn't change the

culture of the United States but allows us to see you know new people and and

new ideas and and that can be very healthy I think it should be less than

it is now especially because of the amount of legal immigrants who have

already come in like you at some point you have to say right like we can't

sustain this even property values for example that's impacted pretty pretty

substantially I mean people should be able to afford a start a home they can't

right now very few people can what do you think about that is that going to

require sort of the great reset of where you get this dollar collapse and

everybody has a chance maybe to buy again because we have massive deflation

and joblessness or what does it take to actually get to that affordability again

do people just need to make more money yeah I mean and part of it too is the

look at houses I mean people have higher quality of life in

our homes now we have better appliances so I mean there's it has to be a little

bit more expensive right to have all this technology all the luxuries that we

have but it's gone up like 500% compared to where it should be if

you just followed the chart from from before like the 1950s so it has to crash

I mean you can't sustain that the only thing stopping you from crashing now in

my opinion and you may know more about this than me you're like real estate

expert right oh so but but uh in my opinion one of the only

things stopping it from crashing is uh right now it costs a lot to build so I

think if more people can build cheaper then we'll probably see the housing

market as a whole crashing a substantial amount if not fast then at least a slow

gradual decline which're midd now right okay that could I mean what do you think

do you think it's going to be a big crash or do you think it'll be a slow I

mean I I I agree with you is that the the core problem is there are just a

lack of homes where people have jobs jobs and then you look at a state like

California where I mean you're you're almost buying real estate in California

is almost protected from going down in Valley because they build so little this

one of the things when I ran for governor I thought we we need to build

more like streamline the permitting uh so so and they could be in even areas

outside of the large uh cities but streamlining building is is absolutely

key you you're seeing that in areas like Texas and Vegas and you're seeing uh uh

prices actually slowly come down a little bit because of that so uh you

might be exactly right yeah it's interesting I mean I I know I don't you

built one of the one of the most like awesome bu I mean awesome maybe you

could use that word to describe you built an awesome business like you I

don't know do you think you could have done that today like could you have

started from the ground and built what you built as successfully as fast as you

did it I mean now I think everything takes longer I think yeah it's uh a lot

more there'd be a lot more patience required now especially

everything is so much more expensive now uh and I I I don't think wages have

really kept up unless you now you get you almost need like an AI computer

engineering job to really you know it's like yeah make your own AI to to pay for

for some of the housing you see especially in noral gosh it's gotten

expensive oh it's ridiculous I mean and and also we're we're coming towards a

point where the only thing that maybe could save the country is also one of

the scariest things for the country which is AI and

robots really taking over most of the jobs in the United States that like how

does that not happen oh wow self driving cars aren't far away what about even

like jobs like cooking can a robot or already if you have enough money you can

make a robot that can cook at the level of a human it's already possible like

the technology is there now that's Tesla Optimus is going to take over I mean I I

think at that point there there's a scary possibility of getting closer to

Communism and getting closer to less freedom and getting closer to AI maybe

taking over I mean musk is very SC to that I trust him he's not going to say

that for no reason he's warning people right so I I I I I was less scared of it

until I listened to Elon Musk now I'm more scared of it right because of I

trust him oh you're more scared after having listened to El yes and I I I I I

hope he's wrong but I mean is he like he's he knows more than any of us by by

a significant margin so if he's that scared of it we really should listen to

him and maybe he's purposfully over amplifying it to try because he knows

people will take a corrective measure that's at a lower level but there will

be a point when you can name almost any job and Ai and robots will be able to do

it if you think of it as okay well then humans don't have to work as much and we

can have a lot of things that are done for us yeah that's kind of nice to think

about but then you start looking at the downsides of it if it's done right it

could be a good thing Ready Player one we have get in your capsu I mean like

but there's going to be a very rough transition even if it is capable of

being Done Right which I hope it is it's going to be a rough transition cuz

people are already losing jobs and like what do you do for the for the years it

takes between the point of losing your job and the point where there's enough

of that to sustain Humanity without having to work as much and how do you do

that without having communism the jobs are also fulfilling to people you like

going to work a lot of a lot of people if they were at home they would be bored

so how do you have happy Humanity combined with that it's it's scary

you're right that elon's been warning us about it he's also pushing more AI like

he's developing like they started doing grock few months ago last year he's

pushing the Optimus robot but is he doing that because it's the only way to

fight other AI that might be it going to be a war of like Optimus versus chat GPT

Bots or whatever um but I also think like you know the transition from humans

being hunter gatherers to an Agricultural Society you could kind of

make the same arguments like yeah but people are going to lose jobs it's like

yes they're going to lose jobs like picking berries and like fighting bors

and stuff but there's going to be new jobs that are created so I think as a

whole Accord to every stat I've seen most Americans are more worried about AI

than they are optimistic about it where would you fall in that Spectrum that's a

good question I think I would be on the more worried side than optimistic I I'm

a very optimistic person in every other area of my life I mean I I I love

thinking positively I love looking forward to the future I love being

optimistic it's hard to be optimistic with AI it's possible though like there

are times when I think oh wow what if we just like can have the food grown for us

by the robots you know like okay thanks for thanks for my free meal or like aend

like like if you can have extremely inexpensive food that's grown by

robots without it taking over if if you can have like if you can have your life

be easier you can spend your time working out you know you can still do

productive things work out be creative you know there's lots of ways we can

occupy our time besides a job so there's that hope that maybe life will be better

for humans on the other side of it but it's only a hope and the fear is is

still creeping up and it's the fear level is getting higher and higher the

more advanced this gets you know what gave me chills is every time you were

talking about I'm an optimistic person I kept hearing Optimus oh

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the the biggest concern there then is the transition you right so you go from

driverless or you go to driverless cars great all these people who are trained

in truck driving or whatever now jobless not saying that'll happen quickly but

when it happens how do you retrain somebody how do you train somebody who

who for say 25 years they're in their mid- 40s or whatever started at TW in

their early 20s driving trucks and they're a professional truck driver not

enough money to retire plenty of time still to be able to work now they have

to what go learn a new skill that's hard and our schools aren't necessarily the

best to where we're even training high schoolers enough to be capable at 18

we're not so what do you do with somebody who's now in their mid-40s who

just basically had their job replaced so that's that roughness that you're

talking about huh yeah I mean it's it'll it'll be a TR tough trans and I think

it's it's interesting to compare to like when we went from hunting Gathering to

more civilized civilization it's so much more drastic

than that because like you went from like having to spend almost all of your

time every day surviving to you know you only spend a little bit of time per day

surviving and it's going to go from that to what if you have to spend almost no

time per day surviving like how do you like what is that going to look like

also one thing that I think people should be especially scared of there are

a lot of evil people in the world there's a lot of evil countries there's

a lot of evil leaders there's a lot of Elites who don't have our best interest

to heart and they're going to have access to some of this crazy technology

miniature robots that are capable of taking people's lives that you can't see

you can't know when they're coming that is one thing I'm especially scared of oh

wow who controls the X Killers you could be lying in your right you could be

lying in your bed a robot can come into your house from anywhere in the world

from any group in the world and you can it can kill you yeah and and it can even

potentially do it in a way where you wouldn't know that technology is not far

away it may even already to be here now well that's almost like terrifying you

tweeted about uh Epstein's brother suggesting how scary it was that you

could be under the protection of the government and then be killed that that

thought is scary terrifying I mean and I I I firmly believe I don't his theory is

that the the government did it I I don't know a ton about his brother but I think

it would be even more accurate to say specific Elites did it many of them may

be in the government but once again the motivation the ability they're going to

do it if it maybe like is it possible they got lucky and he he took his own

life maybe there's always that chance it's possible but the chances of that

are are extremely improbable I mean someone like that doesn't typically do

something like that yeah it's it doesn't add up the lead detective it's possible

he died suddenly at 50 it's

weird just weird yeah is so okay what about like um you know a lot of this

when we were just talking about Optimist this idea of fulfillment from from work

it feels a little the opposite of almost or maybe it's similar I guess the way

you look at it Andrew Tate you know don't be a

slave uh to to to work or the man or whatever where's that balancing factor

is Andrew T saying do what fulfills you or is he just saying I don't know what I

guess what is what's your take on him Andrew Tate's an extremely clever

businessman that's he he thinks outside the box that's how he's able to to make

a lot of money for himself and I mean his idea and his philosophies can

be effective um but you have to have that right mindset already for it to be

effective like like he he made a he made like his course actually some pretty

smart things on there that he was showing people I would do most people

though aren't innately in that mindset to where you can figure that it's really

difficult to do any of anything that's outside of the box so most people should

get a normal job right and that's you know you can be happy with normal job

you don't need to do something crazy but some people have like a specific ability

and a specific mindset that not only drives him to do something that's

outside of the box but gives them the ability to and if you have that I think

his philosophies his ideas oftentimes can be effective I mean something I

disagree with him sometimes I agree with him sometimes what do you disagree with

him on so for example Andrew Tate uh I think purely on a level of just like how

you communicate what the best thing to do for the future is I think he could do

it more effectively and I'm that's a little bit vague but I I think at the

end of the day Andrew Tate also like some of the things he did earlier on in

his career he probably shouldn't have um R to women or otherwise I mean it it

just depends how you look at it like like for example he was uh

using like the websites and the cam models and stuff to to get men to pay

lots of money and get nothing in return now you can say that's the men's fault

like you can blame it on them I mean you really I feel like there's better ways

to make money than than doing it I don't think that's a good thing to do but I

don't think you can also judge someone entirely on their past I think Andrew

Tate right now a lot of his cultural musters are very positive and he is at

least he's a counterbalance to a lot of the bad stuff out there and uh his

brother Tristan I think actually I like Tristan personally even more than Andrew

I I think TR I think Tristan's really interesting to listen to and uh no

offense Andrew in case you're watching but but uh but I mean yeah I think

Tristan Tristan I think more people should should uh listen to him and and

at the end of the day they didn't do anything that requires him to be in

prisoned they didn't break any laws that's obvious to anyone who looks into

it they held them for months um on uh I think it's King core charges I mean

Kangaroo Core that's that's how I describe it but uh they still have all

his assets right is they're still under an investigation now so I guess there

could be charges but so far it's like what what's taking so long if there are

charges and and you have to assume I mean you already can assume anyway

looking at the evidence you if there's going to be charges you have to

manufacture them because they didn't actually they they didn't pull off an

Epstein Island they didn't have trafficked women much I mean underage

you know magnify the amount of vess by 100 times right but uh they didn't do

that and uh so you can't like if you say they're what they did was morally wrong

you're welcome to have that opinion right um but they didn't do anything

illegal and uh at the end of the day would you rather have someone like you

know like one of the MSNBC hosts who's culturally influencing the United States

or someone like andw Tate are we going to go to a a culture of extreme wokeness

and weirdness or a culture of self responsibility

of pushing for striving to be better working out you know like there's a

balance in between right but you want to be way closer to that side then you want

to be towards towards the bright and sellors of the world whoever there's no

proof that the Tates have done anything illegal there you know no proof that

they're guilty but you did tweet recently a video that said there was

proof that both Andrew and Tristan were innocent did you elaborate on that yeah

I mean so it's it's it's easy I mean I don't feel like I'm some investigative

journalist because I can discover that I mean just look at the videos use common

sense if you have any understanding of human behavior you can tell those women

don't feel like they're being trafficked this is like C CCTV footage essentially

of them walking into the gate and didn't I mean they're not like being dragged in

or yeah I mean if it feels silly analyzing that because I mean those are

human beings like we're not we're not just like analyzing a video game or a

movie like those are humans right so I mean they I think we should listen to

them more than anything else what's their opinion and none of them say they

were trafficked none of them say I mean I think there may have been two that

were like that had accusations that uh came out against him but those were

extremely non-credible if you look at the actual people who spent time with

him who were living with him and I I don't want to just be an Andre T

Defender like I mean it's his job to do that I'm my own person right but uh I

will say I think it's unfair and I think it's important to call that out because

it could happen to other people and uh it it won't happen to me you know I'm

happily happily married I they they really they could they couldn't do that

to me they could try but it would be no one would believe it it's interesting

because I mean really I like this comparison that you made between Epstein

and and Tate where it's like you have underaged accusers

accusing right yeah I mean that's interesting no prison time for the

people who were involved with that Andrew Tate Tristan Tate going to prison

and the people who are actually in the Epstein Client List not a single one of

them has even so much as SP outside of like Maxwell and Epstein right the other

folks the other folks yeah yeah I mean we know they were doing it we know they

had a trafficking ring that's why Maxwell's in prison right now that's why

Epstein was in prison and then was murdered that's what they did so like a

prince Andrew uh was it Andrew it was Prince Andrew yeah okay I just want to

make sure prince Andrew uh should he be

arrested oh yeah I mean he he needs to be arrested immediately it's there's

enough evidence uh to not only arrest him in my opinion but to to press

serious charges against him will it happen

oh probably not I mean I hope so right we'll have we have we have to hope I

mean You' have to see a change in leadership because these the people in

these positions of power they know if they go and arrest him they're going to

be next because a lot a lot of the people in these positions of power were

part of that ring and still many of them do participate in stuff like that do you

think more of that is continuing with another Epstein Island somewhere else

course yeah of course I I mean I personally believe Bill Clinton based on

I think if you if you look at patterns of Behavior if you look at his where he

travels I can't say conclusively that he definitely has an island I believe Bill

Clinton has an island I think he still has it and I think it is still being

used in bad ways and when you see the clintons disappear for a while where are

they what are they doing they're right now actually in Mexico why are they in

Mexico are they is that are they near the island that they own I mean like

what what what made them randomly decide at at the time to go to a bunch of

places in South America and meet the president I mean he doesn't have any

political power why is he there what what are they doing there interesting

yeah like you know you you have to I mean it's pretty Brazen as that stuff is

coming out to be doing that you would hope that people aren't capable of such

evil but at the end of the day they are and uh it needs to be looked into I I I

think Bill Clinton his Island that I believe he has

needs to be investigated fully and if you're not thinking there's more Islands

that's that's crazy I mean if there's one there's many we know that for a fact

and that's why you renaming the US Virgin Islands

to oh go people did not like my comment not like yeah I never thought about that

yeah ever since EP just's been called the US Islands uh so the the Epstein

documents yeah the Epstein documents don't look good for the clintons and

there's also a lot of photos of Bill and Epstein um Trump was mentioned a couple

times yeah that uh Trump was mentioned a couple times in the documents too but

not as having visited the island rather than like they visited his Casino things

like that but there are a lot of photos with Trump and Epstein do you think the

connection is a little bit more than what we know so far or do you think

Trump's completely innocent of you know going to the island and doing anything

nefarious I mean you can tell based on Trump's personality no one really

believes he would he would be involved with that no you can like talk to the

guy listen to the way he thinks no one actually believes even the people who

say it maybe maybe there's people who are brain I mean there are people are

brainwash genuinely believe in it but those who are actually in positions of

power to brainwash others they know what they're doing they know he wasn't

involved in that I I don't care what list there is or and obviously yes he's

mentioned in those documents as of not being involved with it he wasn't seen on

the island but there are people who are mentioning those documents as not being

involved with it that I do think need we need to be suspicious of because they

you can look at the way they act you can look at how they interact with other

people you can see their past pattern of behavior you can say that's suspicious

those people need to be looked into regardless Trump though on the other

hand if you look at his personality I don't think there's any chance he was

involved with it and I I I'm happy to see exonerating stuff from him but uh

even if we didn't I I I have confidence he would never do that so why his strong

connection to Epstein like why were they together so many times Epstein was

extremely effective at weaseling his way I think the pictures we saw were like a

cple like two parties or something he was extremely effective at weaseling his

way into these positions of power a lot of people took the bait someone like

Trump didn't many people didn't those people Des I was going to ask about that

next the photo of Elon with Maxwell in the background like do you think Elon is

guilty of anything or do you believe his statement that he was photobombed yeah I

mean I believe his stat he was photob bombed and even like like at worst okay

oh sure I'll take a picture of you I don't know I don't know who you are like

I mean yeah I mean and the distinction between that

and someone who has a picture with him that could also have the same excuse is

that you can look at people like Elon Musk look at his personality like if you

interact with him if you watch the way he acts you can tell he's not that type

of dude he doesn't he doesn't have that energy

and so I think that's just trusting that instinct of understanding people's

energy is important in in uh and whether or not you should be suspicious of them

really that's a really good point well you tweeted recently that uh actually

was a Tucker Carlson quote Derek Chauvin is serving a 21-year prison term for a

crime he didn't commit can you elaborate on why you quote tweeted that yeah so

that was one of the biggest uh motivations I mean if you look at the

rights many people die doesn't of people lost their life from that and those

people no one seems to care it's it's so that that's one thing but specifically

why I tweeted that out is because if you look at his his uh court case you can

see he had a lethal dose of fedl in his system now is do I think that dere

travin also also knew George Floyd they they had interactions before do I think

he handled it correctly no I don't do I think it was mostly his training that

was responsible for it looking worse and being worse than it could have been yes

but at the end of the day what he was convicted for was not misusing his power

as a police officer was not mishandling situation now if you convicted him of

that you can make a strong argument that he deserves that conviction but to say

he murdered him when he had a lethal dose of drugs in his system I don't

think that's fair because if he didn't have that lethal dose even if the same

exact thing had played out George Floyd would still be alive I'm very confident

right now and I'll put I'll say allegedly with all this you know we have

to include that anything legal right but but at the end of the day I firmly

believe George Floyd would still be here if he hadn't been doing drugs and I

don't think someone like that who literally held a gun to a pregnant

woman's belly who who's been a lifelong criminal and drug addict I don't think

someone like that should be praised or glorified in in the way he was and if he

had been killed by police like if if if he' actually been unfairly killed by

police which does happen sometimes yeah I can understand some outrage but they

still shouldn't put statues up of George Floyd they should they should call for

accountability you can fire a police officer in that situation this is not

that situation though and uh if if you I mean I I think obviously there's better

strategies you shouldn't put your knee on on the neck of anyone I don't think

that's I mean maybe there's some instances where it's necessary that was

like a trained tactic that was what but it was what they were trained to do

that's the thing so you can't you can't it's not like he just made up that idea

sure none of those officers believed they were killing him at the end of the

day I think they are are pure of heart when it comes to they did not have any

intention to kill him at all they they there's footage of him using that

technique before there's probably many times he used that technique where there

wasn't footage none of those other people lost their life if that was the

case that you do that and someone loses their life there would be thousands of

other cases we' have seen of this happening and then change the tactic get

rid of the tactic I mean can you find me a single other clip this is a popular

tactic it's been used for a long time it's not so much now right obviously but

can you find me a single clip of someone losing their life from that tactic I

mean maybe it exists I haven't seen it so it's probably I think a lot of the

counter push people had against chovin and even the the jury involved was this

uh the fact that he didn't check the amount of time that he was on chovin and

that the no checkin was was probably uh what would increase the the substantial

level of maybe what what word would you use brazenness or

aggressiveness what's your take on absolutely in my opinion he he could

have handled that way better I don't think it was an acceptable I think like

why wouldn't you on just a a pure human level even if it's a criminal or even if

it's a you know you check on them like it wouldn't have hurt to do that no he

handled it improperly now you can say when you're adrenaline's pumping like

that you're not going to make perfect decisions I mean it's hard there's

people yelling at you all around you you're probably like frustrated you know

you're human right in that situation it's super easy to not handle it the

right way which is what happened now if you want to make the case Derek travin

needs to go for to prison for for misuse of police force fair you know you can

make that case but there's three things that really frustrate me and make me

upset which is number one the other officers who are involved are facing

extremely lengthy senses had their entire life

suround and I don't think that's fair because they really truly were just

doing what they were training to do and it wasn't their job to check on him that

should have been what Derrick was doing in the position he was in so they really

got the short end of the stick because of the the outrage Nationwide which

wouldn't have happened by the way if the races were reversed it just wouldn't

have I mean it's the truth whether it's uncomfortable to say or not that's the

truth there would have been outrage wouldn't have been the brights there

would have been the protest and we know that for a fact because it has happened

before but but anyway the the point is he he could what he should have done and

what he did didn't match up and he deserves to have accountability held

against him for that but is he a murderer should he be in prison for the

rest of his life no the answer is just simply no and even if you say maybe he

wouldn't have died he chose to take a a lethal amount of unless GE unless the

knee was on the neck he chose to take the lethal amount you have to assume in

the police officers in best interest in this case you have to assume on their

side because they're in the tough position they're the ones that have to

have the adrenaline pumping they're the ones that are doing with this assume on

their side lean towards their side that's what I say what do you think

about uh I mean this quote came from Tucker Carlson what do you think about

his firing from Fox and now his uh a lot of interviews about aliens lately but in

general what do you think about his interviews and what do you think about

aliens that's that's a good one uh um so with Elon Musk and uh I guess if you

actually look into what's happened with um

the way so so with I'll start off with aliens I guess that's more

fun so there's a lot of of area out there there's a lot of space you have to

assume there's probably I mean if you look at it from a Biblical perspective

there's a decent chance that there isn't any human or life outside of uh of where

we are now but civilization has been around for a long time even if you just

say at some point humans had a more advanced civilization were capable of

leaving the planet and uh there's there's there's there's there's a decent

chance there's life somewhere out there God absolutely could have created more

planets with life we have no proof that he didn't um so so I think I think it

would be really interesting to to find alen one day we probably never will

that's my guess I don't think we'll ever see aliens in our lifetime and maybe

humans never will but uh I hope so that that certainly be cool and what was the

other thing you were asking about Tucker yeah less important less important than

aliens getting fired from Fox and and now posting on right so Tucker

Carlson rert Murdoch the owner of Fox his wife I think had a crush on Tucker

Carlson oh my gosh most people don't even know about this so so like uh his

his her favorite talk show host was Tucker Carson and that caused a rift in

the relationship of rert Murdoch and his wife and I think a huge reason Tucker

Carlson was fired yes sure silencing him yes sure Fox News is uh is just as fake

as as many their outlets and you should never watch mainstream media obviously

but I think that played a bigger role than people even know and why Tucker

Carlson was fired with so much money still left on his contract and at the

height of his his prominence when so many people were listening to him it's

interesting to see how on X he's able to say more and

do more and there's things he would have never done I don't even know if they

would have let him had Epstein's brother on like for example yeah exactly maybe

they would have I don't know but it seems his show is better now than it was

was before even though it's unfortunate that right now at least less people see

hopefully that changes I I think X should become the mainstream media of

the future where there's actually individual journalists and you can pick

and choose it's not scripted and it's not one person who's influencing all of

it and the big donors and everything that would be nice but you know for now

I mean it is what it is do you think x uh leans more to one side of the

political spectrum and is it hard to amplify things on the other side of the

spectrum it's it's shocking I was on Twitter before elos took over I saw a

ton of of of crazy stuff it seemed like it was a Cess pool for wokeness w and

now it seems like it's very based like more so than it is a woke and it's it's

astonishing to see that because it shows you how the hand of

manipulation had such an impact on the way using it was

perceived they made it so that it felt like the actual represent of people's

opinions was way off and I think a lot of people were influenced by that to

become completely different with their opinions than they would have otherwise

been it's it's fascinating to see the shift that I think was always capable of

happening it's not just CU new people are coming the same people are were

always capable of this way of thinking and just it's now been unlocked because

they're no longer being censored a last question I have is you

mentioned that in the next 10 years we could face a collapse due to the debt in

the United States how are you investing now that's a good question so I I'm

investing a lot like putting pretty much all of my money in one particular thing

and that is actually no I'm I'm not not I need to do more I'm I'm just kidding

uh I mean I'm I'm you know normal stuff you know investing some stocks

cryptocurrency you know that that type of thing I do think crypto is important

to invest in I don't have some master genius strategy to to absorb but I think

everyone's going to be in trouble uh I mean if you have an extraordinary amount

of wealth you know you can you can can be relatively protected that's why the

elites are are allowing this to happen um I mean the one thing you can do right

now don't hold too much of the dollar that's really the only advice I can give

someone don't hold too much of the dollar don't hold too much F currency as

long as you're doing that have some Protections in place I say go with a

cheaper home don't try to overreach make sure you can own your home outright if

you can do those things maybe you have to build right maybe you have to build

yourself figure it out watch YouTube videos find way Andre Tate right there

figure it out build your own home you're you're capable of more than we're we're

all capable of more than we even know so grind figure out a way to protect

yourself by living as as cheaply as possible to the degree you can still

feel comfortable enough now and uh put things in place in terms of a home in

terms of other things to where you don't have to worry about a big mortgage rate

or you don't have to worry about paying things long term if you can set yourself

up sustainably you will be sa way safer at least than the average individual in

the United States it's hard to do but it's possible you've uh advocated for

gold and silver in the past uh how would you compare that to cryptocurrency and

if you think like what percentage of your portfolio should be gold and silver

versus cryptocurrency so even with crypto there are ways to invest in gold

through crypto so like when I say crypto I I I'm including gold in that but also

so I I I actually I partnered with a company that sells gold and I really

like them a lot I'm investing in a good amount of gold myself and silver both of

them I think holding precious metals is significantly smarter than holding the

dollar and cryptocurrency may even be like in some ways it has advantages that

even gold doesn't have so I I don't think you should hold 100% of anything

diversify have some gold have some silver have some cryptocurrency even you

can throw the dollar a little bit of love you know you can have a little bit

of it right property if if the more Diversified you can be the better and uh

I mean I'm I'm preaching to the choir here right

I'm but uh but but I mean yeah that's that's my opinion on it that's what I

think is is the smartest thing to do how's Twitter income it's it's it

actually so you'd be surprised I'm I'm really not making that much I you would

think I have you know I have a big account I have one of the top accounts

in the world when it comes to views yeah the amount I'm making from Twitter is is

really it's small it's small um I I don't know if that will change in the

future I mean it would be cool you know it' be cool to have people be able to

make a living uh from from Twitter but I I mean there there are some months where

you can only make like a couple thousand's you know pretty good for for

posting tweets right I put a lot of time and effort into it though it's a

full-time job for me um so you know it's it's not I I don't think at this point

it's at the point where you can make it a full-time job I I really don't like

people probably think oh he makes so much money no it's it's not I mean I

really don't make that much doing the platform going to survive yeah I think

so I mean I I love doing it that's why I'm not doing it because you're not

going to get rich from posting on Twitter I love what I do and I love

informing people I love helping to shift the culture

in in what I believe is a significantly more positive way and even if that

sometimes takes pushing the boundaries you have to push the boundaries in order

to change the way people the way this way Society is functioning now and it's

functioning in many many bad ways right now they need to be changed and it needs

to be done quickly in my opinion anything else that was going to but that

was such a good way to end it that was fantastic that was really good uh how do

people follow you so you can follow me on X obviously which is Matt Wallis 888

M A TT w l l a c 888 if you just type in Matt Wallace it should come up so you

can you can follow me on X I have a YouTube channel as well which is just my

name you can type in Matt Wallace and you can subscribe to me on YouTube I try

to bring a lot of information and and and make it so that people find real

value not just entertainment when they come come and watch my channel so

definitely come come come join uh on those places and uh I actually I I

started my YouTube career in part because of of the man C AC cross Mir now

so so I I do I do want to say thank you for for posting videos as consistently

as you have thank you for you know inspiring people I'm sure tell you all

the time that you helped Inspire them to do stuff because you're you have a huge

channel right so I mean uh I I appreciate that I want to tell you that

on on camera thank you for for for for inspiring inspiring me to start this

because I would have never done a lot of this if it wasn't for watching YouTubers

and and seeing that and it's really cool how it works if you're out there right

now you want to do that the most important thing I can tell you

consistency consistency cons consistency the statistics of having a successful

YouTube channel if you post every day for a year are magnitudes higher than if

you don't if you go every that's the one goal to set every day for a year you

don't even have to make good videos you'll get better as you go along if you

do that your chances of success if you have a good strategy and you post every

day are close to 50% which is extraordinary and I that it could be

slightly lower than that but that's the only way to really have a decent chance

to succeed and so if you want to try that even though I'm a licensed

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