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such nonsense I really despise this debt
ceiling stuff we deal with this debt
ceiling crap I feel like every year and
it's just such nonsense because it's it
just politicians wanting to make sure
that they that that America knows
they're fighting uh to do the best for
you know what people believe they want
their politicians to do and uh
unfortunately uh that uh that means uh
you end up having this uh uh
brinksmanship and uh populism and that
finger pointing and name calling and
it's it I I I don't know to some extent
I feel conflicted because our founding
fathers wanted uh there to be gridlock
but then we've also walked ourselves
into situations where gridlock sucks
like when it comes to having a literal
debt ceiling where which is stupid
because it's like authorizing payments
twice uh it's it it's really really dumb
if you think about it it's like what's
the point of passing a bill uh agreeing
to spend money if you're just going to
end up holding it up in debt ceiling
negotiations in the future just it
really it it blows my mind uh but uh you
know that's uh that's what we have to
deal with so here we are now I mean I
really believe that nobody is dumb
enough to actually let the uh uh the
United States economy uh tank so badly
by letting a default occur but then
again you know I've seen some pretty
stupid things in politics so I suppose I
won't let myself be too terribly
surprised but um let's just say I'm I'm
uh I'll continue to be hopeful uh I
continue to think this is uh nonsense
the debt ceiling nonsense I I put the
odds at default at well under one
percent uh I I know that would be pretty
wild if we you know we ended up
defaulting but it just it seems so uh
widely
impossible that that I just I can't I
can't see a reason why it would happen
Beyond just again this nonsensical
breaks a political brinksmanship I think
there'd be plenty of uh ways the
treasury just ends up figuring out how
to you know stop making payments for for
a little bit on things that don't matter
like they did in 2011 then you get a big
media spectacle and poop show uh if you
don't remember 2011 basically in 2011
the uh uh the government stopped paying
like TSA agents and park Reps for a
while and everybody was freaking out
because this this idea was like wow man
like seriously government you can't even
pay TSA agents like this is ridiculous
this is a joke and it was so
embarrassing that we had Parks basically
fenced off you know National well like
uh you know federally guarded Parks uh
like the Washington monuments or or
whatever that uh uh that uh politicians
finally figured it out uh but uh you
know the good news is the stock market
is actually doing surprisingly well in
the face of all of this and in my
opinion that's well I mean I don't think
I need to say the the b word I think
I've already been pretty dang clearly
bullish for you know I think I was a
little early with the bullishness but I
think the Nike Swoosh has been something
I've been very consistent with uh and
and people have regularly been asking
you know since since really December and
and uh in January uh and otherwise as as
yields have been high people have been
asking well Kevin you know why bother
being in stocks I can make five percent
on you know my cash and it's true you
can you can make five percent you know
you go to various different platforms
I've actually resisted
talking about where to place your cash
to get yield uh you know whether that's
uh uh like I mean I've I've briefly
mentioned it in in sort of just lists
like oh you know you can go to Robinhood
so far or you go to uh you know what
whatever it doesn't doesn't really
matter but I've resisted wanting to
really make videos about this or or try
to encourage people investing in a way
that uh they're trying to get just cash
yield mostly because when cash yields
are high you have to consider that
you're not really earning five percent
right so you get a five percent yield at
say wealth front what are you actually
getting well you're getting a real
return maybe in the neighborhood of zero
percent right when we could when we
factor out inflation uh but beyond that
what are you actually looking at well
you're looking at let's let's assume
Nation doesn't matter to your cash right
so how could inflation not matter your
cash what do you mean Kevin we've been
talking about this for a year and a half
on the channel inflation doesn't matter
to your cash if you're applying assets
that are going down in value I don't I
personally if I have you know a
household food budget yeah inflation's
going to make that household food budget
go up but if food represents I don't
know one percent of our household budget
then and 99 of my budget isn't affected
by inflation because let's say it's
going into investing in assets like
stocks or real estate or whatever then
if those values go down then my cash
actually becomes more valuable in an
inflationary time not less but
ignore inflation for a moment completely
and let's think to ourselves
if inflation
is zero and we're getting a five percent
cash yield what is the other risk we
face with our cash and this is something
regularly people on the uh you know my
courses have been asking me people and
uh on the channel I've been asking Kevin
why why not just put all my money in on
five percent cash or treasuries
and the the real reality that I I think
is so quickly missed is this phrase I
know everyone here has heard before
everybody's heard it before it should
come as no surprise and so if you're
surprised by what I'm about to say in
terms of why you're able to get this
this yield uh that uh that everyone's
excited about
well it should come as no surprise uh
and that is opportunity cost what's your
opportunity cost well since January 1st
your opportunity cost of being in cash
as opposed to the S P 500 has been 10
percent
that means your Opera like you have
earned 10 on stocks since the beginning
of the year
and uh
the year is not even over which means
hey wait a minute if
we continued at this level your
opportunity costs for a year of the S P
500 could be 20 right now of course with
stocks there's always the risk of the
market going down right that's that's
that's the downside uh if you're on the
right of stocks of course there's a risk
of Market going down uh and then you
could actually have a negative return on
your money but you know look for example
at um two two responses to that first of
all I want to quickly bring up the
NASDAQ the NASDAQ 100
top 100 technology companies in America
is up
27.6 year-to-date that's insane
so you know if you're excited about
earning five percent
congratulations
in this time let's see we're five uh
yeah we're about a full five months into
the year right so we're about 41 of the
way in the year
41.6 into the year uh let's
multiply that by your five percent yield
so so far out of five percent annual
yield you've earned 2 percent
all the way through May 23rd so you've
earned two percent the S P's return 10
The nasdaqs Returned 27 percent
that's what opportunity cost looks like
now yes is it possible stocks can go
down of course it's possible especially
since they've already done so well
but something to remember is and this is
the beautiful thing about owning stocks
the problem with uh options for example
is you have faded a k you get slowly
bled out uh unless of course you're a
seller of options which is is generally
the way to make money with options you
sell options and you become uh someone
who profits off of that Theta Decay but
anyway
if
you're holding stock you don't have to
worry about data Decay you don't care at
all about okay you could just hold the
stock and you ride it up and down so
really to not be in stocks you have to
believe in some form of extreme level of
bearishness that says well you know
we're gonna go into an earnings
recession and everything's gonna be
worse going forward you know I was
trying to read a summary of bare pieces
and uh or or like reasons to be bearish
and I found one it was in a Goldman
actually in a bullish Goldman piece and
we'll talk about it in a little bit but
I I was curious I'm like okay well
what's their bear case and what they did
is they basically put one little
paragraph out for hey like look you
don't have to look far to understand the
bearish narrative so we're just not
going to talk about it uh see so what
they did is look at this they uh right
there for the bear case talk to the
person next to you geopolitics fed error
that would be over tightening or under
tightening uh debt ceiling financial
crisis two recession Rich session that's
the white collar recession credit
stagflation commercial real estate Urban
Divine civil unrest rate Cliffs job you
know jobs stocks first bonds blah blah
blah bad news is in The Ether and is
priced in and I thought that was really
interesting this this uh sorry this
wasn't a Goldman piece that was actually
a Bank of America piece but anyway uh
point of this is really it's like yeah
there's no shortage of like this poop
but the thing that I keep going back to
and it's really what defined
the Nike Swoosh uh before we you know
before the Nike Swoosh actually started
becoming a reality my thesis with the
market uh with with the Nike swooshes
that we would go through a volatile
period of ups and downs and uh that over
time would look like
2022 was it down uh and then you'd have
your up but that up would not be a
straight up it would be a volatile up
and my thesis supporting the Nike Swoosh
before you know just just broadly
zooming out from all of the data was
when does the market feel more fearful
or when did the market seem more fearful
and I mean now we obviously we have the
luxury of hindsight you know as they say
hindsight is 20 20. so it's it's you
know but then again you you know you
know we've talked about the Nike switch
for many months probably just tired of
hearing about now but the point is what
what was sentiment like uh think about
this like yourself for a moment how are
you feeling in uh September or August or
October of last year relative to how
you're feeling now now that's a really
important question and uh I I personally
I try to think about it I go well how
was I feeling and the reality was not
that great because there was no bottom
indication yet there was no bounce off
the bottom we were still free falling
and nobody knew how far things were
going to go you had the Jackson Hole
Summit before we had a little bit of
optimism but boy oh boy after that uh
not great you know I remember when I
launched uh uh my ETF on November 30th
December was actually a really difficult
month because everybody was selling it
was like tax laws harvesting uh and so
it was really remarkable to see just how
much bearishness there was and to some
extent it made sense because we're
looking and saying well we we don't know
where's the bottom inflation hasn't gone
away yet do we have any faith that that
we've actually hit uh Peak inflation and
it's only now that we have this luxury
of looking back that and this is going
to be remarkable to say it but it just
shows that when you're bearish how
quickly things can turn on you
do you realize that it's almost been one
year since we hit Peak inflation
think about let me let that sink in for
a moment it's almost been one year
since we hit Peak inflation
we hit Peak inflation 11 and a half
months ago in about two two and a half
weeks three weeks we will be one year
away from Peak inflation
that's crazy that's absolutely crazy to
think that we are already a year away
basically from Peak inflation especially
since uh inflation has been so Salient
in our lives and and it's create we've
had so much
dare I say fear uh about uh what's gonna
happen you know uh so
look I guess my thinking in all of this
is just that
when you're getting a five percent yield
and you're like look at all this money
I'm making on my cash there's usually a
reason uh and I think that's that's the
important lesson is when you're making
big big big big money so somewhere it
usually comes to an end or it comes with
some form of cost and that's that's not
a bad thing like keep in mind in certain
cases it absolutely makes sense to be
sitting in treasuries uh there there are
some companies that shouldn't be
investing in stocks they shouldn't be
gambling in stocks there's some people
who shouldn't be gambling stocks look if
I if if uh if you're a company that's
going to be buying real estate you
should be in cash right uh because I
know what's going to happen with real
estate I mean think about for a moment
we could talk about real estate a little
bit more in depth a little bit later but
think about it for a moment the 10-year
treasury went from the banking crisis of
3.3 percent all the way to where it is
now basically a 3.7 it's actually higher
my goodness those it's up again
3.746 percent so what's happening oh
interesting the stock market's going up
while yields are actually Rising weird
making real estate more expensive
putting more potential pressure on real
estate we're just now starting to get
those year over year negative numbers
but we'll talk about real estate
differently uh you know maybe somebody
else who shouldn't invest in stocks
would be you know somebody who's retired
who's like dude I I just want to lock in
the 10-year treasury at nearly four
percent and screw it like I just that's
great I don't need any volatility stocks
just give me the money and I'll sit here
and milk the yield that's fantastic
but if you're you know and this is my
opinion this isn't personalized
Financial advice that should be obvious
but you know you never know these days
everybody on the internet seems to get
get upset if you're not like super clear
but
you know if you're uh 18 19 20 30 40
years old 45 years old 50 years old and
you're still going to be working for at
least the next 10 years either by choice
or because you have to
who like if you're mostly just cash
farming you gotta look and go
damn screwed up for the first part of
the year now again that's okay like I
absolutely got back in the stock market
way too early right so yes in hindsight
we could probably all have done
something better now my belief was that
the stock market would pre-price in the
fed's U-turn remember when I sold I said
in January of 2022 that you want to get
back in the market when the Federal
Reserve u-turns because the Federal
Reserve u-turned in 87 uh February of
2009 uh December of 2018 March of 2020
uh you also had the uh March of 2003 I
skipped over that one but every time the
fed you turned and Mark at the bottom of
the market and this was sort of your
broad shift in strategy Mark the bottom
of the market and the market did a lot
better that's obviously led a lot of
people today to say okay but but you
know maybe maybe that hasn't happened
yet and that means the Bottom's still
ahead of us or we know that the problem
isn't actually fundamental finally a
broken economy it's just inflation and
since inflation is basically you know
basically peaked a year ago people like
well as long as the economy can just get
through for a little while longer and
and the FED pauses maybe we didn't
actually over type
so so long and short of it we we my
thesis was okay well if
if the market comes to expect that the
market rallies when the Federal Reserve
u-turns uh and and the entire Market
knows that this time around then what
will happen is you'll actually end up
seeing the stock market recover before
the U-turn under the assumption the
U-turn is coming
and so far that's what's happened that's
actually exactly what's happened so far
which is scary but it also goes to show
like you could not have perfectly
predicted that oh yeah in January the
market was just going to start rallying
again and it would have stuck there's no
way you could have predicted it uh now
of course there was this uh
understanding of like oh well all the
taxos Harvesters jumping back in sure
but nobody thought that would end up
being sustained so
um yeah it's really incredible it's
really interesting so the point of that
is can't be perfect but the other point
of that is you know if you're looking at
your portfolio it's like yeah you know I
know cash was great in 2020 too but boy
it sucked in 2023 that's also
potentially another lesson is usually
the assets that do really really well
one year don't do that great the next
year because fund managers are trying to
find Alpha have you ever heard of the
website Seeking Alpha yeah that's
because they're looking for Alpha
they're legitimately looking for ways to
outperform the market that's what Alpha
is your outperformance of the market
beta adjusted anyway long and short of
that uh it it makes sense to some extent
that's stuff that did really well one
year isn't isn't going to be the next
pitched thing the next year you've all
seen The Wolf of Wall Street right
everybody's seen The Wolf of Wall Street
and what's fascinating about the Wolf of
Wall Street is is um remember when uh oh
what's that guy uh math is it Matthew
McConaughey yeah I think it was
McConaughey he's uh he's like you know
you always have another idea you never
let him out of a trait this is something
like that right uh you always have
another idea that's how I feel like the
you know the real suits on Wall Street
are because but but because they have to
be you know that's not to just back on
suits it's just that's just the business
it's like all right cash did really well
last year
what do we think's gonna do really well
this year well you have to pick you know
okay great it was it was attacking Ai
and stuff that was massively oversold
last year could it continue to do well
maybe just maybe maybe we'll see with
Nvidia earnings which I think is propped
on a pedestal right now A shaky pedestal
uh but we'll we'll have a video on that
probably later today not not from this
live stream
but I expect to make it in video video
uh later today
so uh sort of just an earnings preview
video but anyway uh yeah it's a really
fascinating time and a really
fascinating market and I think it is a
it's always good to sort of self-reflect
you know the nice thing about you is you
know you don't have to be public with
your portfolio and your decisions and
your successes and mistakes it doesn't
matter uh you know celebrate your
successes forget about mistakes and just
move on and and try to do better go for
it it's difficult now because it's like
you know now and this is the conundrum
this is probably the hardest part and I
I feel bad for anyone in this situation
if you've got a bunch of cash you're
like all right Kevin you're right you're
right too much cash have too much cash
what do you buy stocks now you know and
now it's like
well you know anything can happen in the
next uh you know in the next few weeks
here I mean ignore ignore the debt
ceiling for a moment but I mean just
look at like retracement levels over
here it would be very easy for the
NASDAQ to at least go back to 3 30 on
QQQ right which is your your index for
uh or ETF for tracking the index of the
NASDAQ 100. one of them uh you know you
could easily go back to to you know 312
or uh you know can you go back to 290
Pro that's probably a little bit more of
a stretch but look you've you know
you've got some downside yeah we could
go up to 348 but so what's the upside
okay well 348 divided by 330 7.64 you're
at a three percent upside
337.64 divided by if we go to call it
312 okay new numbers 312 divided by
337.2 you know seven and a half percent
downside
like it would be horribly frustrating to
go from cash now to like the NASDAQ and
then it takes down but it'll also be
frustrating to miss it if it keeps going
like this so it's very frustrating and I
think that's another lesson that we want
to think about is when we're in cash the
hardest thing is figuring out well when
do you pull the trigger and deploy
uh you know when when looking at the
stock market
uh because you just just don't know
probably
Vanguard says that statistically the
best thing to do is love some invest but
uh psychologically most people find it's
better to take your cash divide it into
let's say 10 buckets and just DCA dollar
cost average those 10 buckets so you
know you put one ten percent bucket in
and then if the market goes down great
throw in another 10 Market goes down
more another 10 Market goes down more
another 10 Market goes up maybe wait or
go wait whatever right uh so
um
it's it's a really weird time but uh you
know I'm I'm happy I'm grateful that so
far things are going well with this
thesis but I've I you know I want to be
humble enough to say we we don't know
what the next leg down could bring
everybody's talking about a Q3 Q you for
recession if we get sticky inflation
that encourages the FED to hike more or
we have to basically price out the idea
of rate Cuts then maybe there's some
downside if uh if we really are going to
have this earnings recession which I
feel like many companies already had
sure maybe there's some downside but I
don't I'm not convinced that uh an
earnings recession isn't already built
into valuations that we've seen here the
earnings recession seem to be most
feared here and it's almost like markets
pre-priced in the bad earnings of 2023
here you know they got out before 2023
and that's really what we saw widely so
now it seems to be okay you know by the
dip on everything is what it feels like
which I understand to some extent feels
like ludicrous now gosh like how could
you keep by The Damp by the damage it
seems like oh oh oh why while time to do
that and certain last year was this was
I mean look at this okay go back for a
moment to 2009 so where's 2009 oh look
it's it's way way look I'm gonna I'm
gonna zoom out on the month wow okay
we're gonna zoom out on the month on on
uh weeps uh it's gonna take I should
have just left it on the week chart or
whatever it'll come up in a sec but
anyway
um your opportunity to to buy the dip
was fantastic between 2009 and quite
frankly 20 end of 2021 you just buy the
tip and the market just went right back
up within the next month consistently so
buy the dip worked for
what is that 11 12 12-ish years
and then you have one bad year and all
of a sudden everybody's like buy the dip
sucks buy the dip is stupid Nookie to
YouTubers and you buy the chip mentality
it's like ah buy the dip was bad
strategy in 2022. abso freaking lutely
but wait a second wait a sec but the dip
was already back to being great in 2023.
so now you look back and you go hmm is
it possible that one out of 12 years is
a bad buy the dip strategy well I mean
we'll see maybe it'll be two years if
this market ends up being a little poopy
doopy uh you know for longer it's
possible but again here's here's your
chart look at this you know I mean it
didn't matter what debt crisis you know
the debt crisis the last debt crisis was
over here can you even notice anything
on the month chart I don't know maybe
it's a little flatter than they need to
hope maybe you'd hope it was a little
bit more of a perky chart over here but
I mean like okay so there's 2018 when
the fed you turned over here all right
but but other than that on the month
chart you know other than 2022 by the
day it worked really well so it's it's
fascinating to me so this uh this Chase
I I guess it's sort of in summary on
this this part uh the important thing to
remember is there is a real cost to cash
yield and it's the cost of your
opportunity that's a problem see this
and and this is exact you know how many
times I've heard this you know like I'm
not blaming you I'm not blaming you I
know you're just the messenger your name
is literally the messenger I appreciate
you being a channel member over here but
this
this fear over election Cycles I've just
never actually seen it be the Catalyst
for the stock market doing anything in
particular it was never an election that
did it it was the housing crisis of 08
you know the the.com bubble of of
valuation implosion
uh but then look look outside of those
or or covet right but then you look
outside of those 2020 was a really
contested period nobody cared
the stock market had like two weeks of
heart palpitations oh my gosh what if
there's a you know uh uh a contestant
election oh no
body cared in terms of the stock market
2016. oh my gosh Donald Trump won you
know everybody's like Donald Trump wins
we're going Poopers nope 2008 oh you
know if uh the first black man wins the
presidency that's it we're going to the
toilet
you never had a black man before only
had a white man before
no
it didn't matter you know Obama took
office near the bottom of the market
bottom of the market was like February
or March it was February of 2009 he took
office Jan 21. I mean come on if
anything the elections help
uh so it's just you know I think the
news media has us convinced that there's
always a reason to be fearful always a
reason to be fearful now I want you to
know this when it comes to AI
time is what's going to make you money
and if you can prove that value to an
employer you'll always be able to be
employed so this is another way of
making sure that you don't get replaced
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