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Well, it's official. Nvidia is expected

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now to invest over a hundred billion

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dollars directly into OpenAI, and

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OpenAI's nonprofit will maintain

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control. This is leading a lot of people

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to question, wait a minute, is this all

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just the circular bubble, or is this

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Nvidia doing what they should be doing?

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Well, let's take a look at some of the

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Nvidia numbers here really quickly, just

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so you can understand how a hundred

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billion investment into OpenAI looks.

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Mind you, a hundred billion dollars into

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OpenAI

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in order for OpenAI to invest more into

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data centers and NVIDIA chips is pretty

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circular, right? Nvidia takes profits

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and then they could buy back stock,

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which they do. They regularly buy back

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stock. Their outstanding stock keeps

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going down, which is great for existing

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shareholders. So then they buy back

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stock, but then they use that money

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potentially to go make investments that

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are strategic by either making promises

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to companies like Coreweave or making

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investments into companies like OpenAI,

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which is then used to go buy more Nvidia

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chips. Remember last week we heard that

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Oracle plans to spend $70 billion over

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the last, you know, 6 months plus 18

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months, so that 2-year period. Uh so

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over two years they plan to spend $70

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billion. They expect that 59%

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of that $70 billion will go to Nvidia

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chips. Understand for a moment just

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those two companies, Oracle spending 59%

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of $70 billion, that's $41 billion. Plus

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OpenAI call it $und00 billion of

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circular money. That's $141 billion.

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Okay. Nvidia has revenue of about $46

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billion in three months. So we've got

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like almost a year of revenue that we

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are creating

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at Nvidia simply through OpenAI

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uh OpenAI 100 bill this is you know

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spread out over time obviously we'll

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talk details in just a moment uh and

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then the Oracle uh 70 * 59% $41 billion

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right this is almost one year of revenue

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just from those two it shows you the

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magnitude

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of of how large this open AAI deal is.

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And this is why Nvidia stock is

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rocketing right now. It's absolutely

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taking off because people were going,

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"My gosh, Jensen is literally taking

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profits

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and then getting Nvidia shareholders

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exposure to OpenAI,

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but whether or not that exposure

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matters, they're basically funding the

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very purchase of their own continued

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revenue. So yes, it is circular. At some

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point, it is very bubbly. But what you

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find is people are making these

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investments because of this belief that

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artificial intelligence will continue to

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be integrated into our lives in sort of

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a an irreplaceable manner that it just

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becomes so core to what we do. And when

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we look at companies in the United

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States, they're so much more primed to

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adopt AI than in other countries around

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the world. Why? And signal we have more

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money. I mean, understand this for a

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moment. China buys some AI chips, but

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they only buy 10% of the world's

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artificial intelligence chips. It's not

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because they don't want AI. In my

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opinion, it's because they don't have

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rich people and rich companies. Like,

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how many Chinese can blow 200 bucks a

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month on a CH GPT Pro subscription

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compared to how many Americans can do it

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and not even notice a difference in in

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their standard of living. The same is

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true for Chinese companies versus

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American companies. You have China that

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just went through a terrible real estate

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recession because of the bubble that the

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the Chinese government popped up and

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then they rugpulled uh their Chinese

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real estate investors by changing the

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very debt and leverage rules that they

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were encouraging their builders to

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undertake. This makes for a very hard

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environment to do business in China.

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This

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is selling rich products to rich people.

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the new iPhone uh you know with the

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promise of oh we'll finally have some

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more AI which is the same thing they

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promised last year people buy it hook

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line I do too I got it right here I got

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the new watch I got the new like I get

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it like we have we have cash and we're

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like look even if it's incremental we

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want a little bit more battery we want a

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little bit more comput power we want

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that artificial intelligence and I get

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it more so now than ever before why why

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do I understand that first of all it's a

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big deal that Oracle and open AI. Just

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those two things, this doesn't even

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include Meta. This doesn't even include

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Microsoft, mind you. They're spending

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tens of billions of dollars on

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artificial intelligence. Meta has a $20

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billion deal in talks right now with

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Oracle. And on top of that, OpenAI wants

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to spend another hundred billion on

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backup servers,

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you know, to sustain sort of their

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ability to provide uptime uptime.

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Microsoft just last week committing

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another $4 billion to another data

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center in Wisconsin plus another 3.3 in

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Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin uh coming

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online later this year. Right? These

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these are huge capital investments. Why

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uh does this how should I phrase it? Why

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is this all such a big deal for Nvidia's

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numbers here? Because remember Nvidia

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every quarter starts at zero. So you

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need this continued willingness of

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companies to keep throwing money at

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Nvidia

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and that's how you get Nvidia stock

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continuing to show EPS growth. If you

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look at Nvidia's EPS growth at just 20%

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over the next call it four years on

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average. They're only trading for a two

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peg right now. Realistically Nvidia is

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probably a $240 stock by year end. I

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really shouldn't give away these things

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from our alpha reports. Uh it's part of

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our me Kevin membership. Sometimes that

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just leaks out from me. But uh you know

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I've got a big price target for Nvidia

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by the end of the year and we've had it

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for for weeks now in the course member

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live stream. And look freaking rocket

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ship right now. So you're not part of

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the Meet Kevin membership yet. I guess

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there's a a pitch to go check it out.

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But uh understand that the American

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consumer is willing to blow money on

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just incremental increases in

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productivity. And I get it. And the

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reason I was going to say I get it is

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because what we're doing right now and

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this isn't supposed to be a pitch for

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house hack but I want you to see the

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relatability

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when we're running models previously on

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old generation Nvidia chips for house

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hack we're looking at like 8h hour to

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3day training time frames to get certain

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MLS like smaller MLS that we're running

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because we we have many different

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segments we have we have many different

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MLS that we run for our real estate AI

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which We plan to start beta testing in

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Q4 with course members uh and then we'll

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probably expand to some kind of public

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sale for real estate AI in Q1. We have

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many MLS that go into that. Our compute

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speed 5xed when we installed Blackwell

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chips. So, we're like, "Oh my gosh, if

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we're going to spend, you know, x,000 a

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month on labor for research and

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development on artificial intelligence,

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why not spend that same amount on labor,

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but get five times the output when the

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chips are operating faster?" So, yeah,

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how has has Blackwell chips and and we

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actually think we're we might be turning

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into more of an AI play than even real

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estate. We're real estate backed. It's

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obviously all real estate. Like we're

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still like our company stock sells uh

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you know the the fund raise we're doing

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right now is just assuming a real estate

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valuation. So assume this is not an AI

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sales pitch because I'm not selling you

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some AI valuation. I'm not selling you

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any is like don't don't go invest in

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house. I just think the shares are too

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cheap. Uh one day we'll raise the

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valuation maybe you know when we

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actually start proving our our AI in

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sales to people. But but you know then

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the valuation could could 100x or a

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thousandx if if it works out well. But

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my point is for bringing this up as a

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CEO not to make you know projections or

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bullishness about house hack. I'm very

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bullish about that. You know that. But

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it's to show you that just like you and

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I will buy the new watch to get that

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extra battery life for a little bit more

8:21

speed because we could get that email

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out faster. We could get, you know,

8:24

multiple tasks running at the same time

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without the phone black screening and

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pinwilling. I got that so much on the

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iPhone 16. It was driving me nuts. Just

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like we'll pay for that extra 15% A19

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processing on our iPhone, you know, 17,

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companies benefit massively from picking

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up that latest iteration of a chip. So,

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like if next year, for example, the

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Blackwell chips we have right now,

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we could get another 30% efficiency by

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buying the next generation chip next

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year, we'll probably do that because

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we're getting so much more productivity

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out of our labor in doing so. And so,

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that's what keeps this flywheel going

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right now is the actual results of

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what's coming out with with that with AI

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productivity is is good. At least, you

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know, for our purposes, what we're

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seeing, we know there are a lot of

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companies that are just like chat GPT

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rappers out there, and even they are

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getting great valuations. I mean, look

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at this. There's uh Meta spent $14

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billion buying a data labeling company

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that tells you if something's a highway

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or not. Like, big deal. $14 billion for

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that kind of data labeling company.

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We're labeling, you know, interiors and

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exteriors of of real estate in different

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rooms and components of real estate.

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Yeah. And it's like, wow, the valuation

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of somebody's life highways and they're

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worth $14 billion. I think it was scale

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AI. That's crazy. So, the valuations are

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crazy. And there are some things that I

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feel like, you know, some of these chat

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GPT rappers, like I think Nvidia just

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invested $900 billion poaching the CEO

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of some chat GPT rapper. Basically, it's

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$900 million. It's insane some of these

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valuations. And I agree that a lot of

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these companies, just like MIT said, are

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not profitable companies. And there is a

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lot of froth and it's a bubble. It's a

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cycle. We know that. We know there's

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going to be overinvestment. But for

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right now, these circular investments

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from Nvidia, they keep it going, but

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there's also there's so much hope in why

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it makes sense to keep spending on these

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chips. So like, as much as I want to

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look at it and go, it's a bubble, it it

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is to some extent. On the other hand, I

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also as a recipient of the AI chips look

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and go, "Oh my gosh, but the chips are

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better. They are good. It's like they

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make sense. The upgrade cycle makes

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sense." And the one thing that Nvidia

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probably doesn't have priced into it

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right now is people are the people who

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are not investing in video are worried

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that Nvidia always starts at zero.

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People are not pricing in an Nvidia

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upgrade cycle that happens at an annual

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cadence. This is what Jensen started

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trying to tell us about 6 months ago

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that don't think about this as starting

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at zero every time. Think about

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companies saying no no no we want that

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extra 20% step improvement just like you

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get that with that iPhone every year

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that extra 20% battery life and

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efficiency. The same thing with chips

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and you can still make use of the old

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ones. This is what's so valuable here in

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Nvidia. And Nvidia, mind you, with this

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OpenAI partnership,

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uh, is only committing to make the

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investment of hundred billion in

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portions as they invest in the

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deployment of gigawatt systems with

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OpenAI. So, let me rephrase that. The

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strategic partnership is deploying 10

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gawatt of Nvidia systems over the next

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period of time. Nvidia is only going to

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invest 10% when the first 10% or the

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first gigawatt is deployed. So they're

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basically doing for every gigawatt,

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you'll unlock 1% of an investment for

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us. So we'll basically give you $10

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billion to go build a $10 billion

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gigawatt facility and then we'll invest

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$10 billion into your company, right?

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And and then that is being used to go

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buy more Nvidia chips. Jensen is the

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most brilliant circular kind of

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salesperson here because he's doing

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exactly what you should be doing. You

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should be going to these companies doing

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whatever you can right now to keep the

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cycle going. And frankly as much like a

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Ponzi implies that there's no underlying

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benefit

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and I get that cuz it's circular

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but again at house hack I see that

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underlying benefit firsthand and I get

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it as a consumer with AI products. Plus

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we also have to conf consider remember

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how artificial intelligence products are

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getting more and more integrated into

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our daily lives. People forget that

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Nvidia is also an FSD play. You know,

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it's a robo taxi play with their Nvidia

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drive platform. I can't remember if

12:55

they're on Thor or Our right now, but

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VADA infrastructure for coding plus

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Nvidia infrastructure for basically

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creating a product that any vehicle

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company can license. Anyone can license

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whether it's Neo, whether it's Mercedes

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or whatever, any of these companies can

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license Nvidia's AI platform to create

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FSD and to start catching up to Tesla.

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You know, they all have a lot of

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catching up to do, but it's beyond that.

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We create more and more AI purposes on a

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daily basis with these products. I know

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people like they they make fun of the AI

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goss, oh, I don't want Mark Zuckerberg

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in my living room or or whatever. Uh,

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and I get it. But the more we have these

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AI potential enabled products, which the

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AI on this is absolute trash right now,

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okay, trust me, it's like totally trash.

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But it'll get there. And the more we get

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to where we're looking at, wow, okay,

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yeah, smart glasses or smart rings or

13:57

cars or laptops, PCs, whatever, all

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integrate inherently AI, the more demand

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there is for these AI chips. I mean, I

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think it's incredible that I could have

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that firsthand experience of of sitting

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and playing with my kids uh and not have

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to worry about holding a camera to film

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my kids, right? And I've got the

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opportunity to film them with these very

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glasses I'm wearing. So, I like before I

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go play with my kids, I put the glasses

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on on purpose and there's no

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distraction. Like they don't feel like

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like here I got a child on me, you know,

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playing with my watch. That's all she

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wants to do is play with my watch while

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at the same time there's chaos over

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here. Like these are the things that in

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the future AI just edits together for

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us. Like who actually goes through

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uh their you know old footage of of you

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know things that they filmed or captured

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with their iPhones or or their glasses

14:55

or you know whatever which the more we

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film with glasses the more there is to

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edit, right? Who goes through all that

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stuff? Nobody goes through all that

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stuff. Like most people aren't video

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editors who are going to go through all

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of this, right? Uh but what's crazy is

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over time, the editing will all be

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outsourced to automatic insights

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provided by artificial intelligence. And

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a lot of that is just going to be driven

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on these AI data centers, whether

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they're Nvidia or OpenAI or whatever.

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I'll give you an example. When I went to

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Japan, you've all heard I went to Japan.

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News. When I went to Japan, I uh I had a

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360 camera while I went on a ride with

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uh the kiddos. And I go on this ride and

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AI, you can follow me on Twitter if you

15:46

haven't seen it yet, real meet Kevin. It

15:48

was super hot, so I'm sorry. I'm like

15:49

barely wearing clothing here. But the

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point is this whole video that you see

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is AI. Well, like the footage is 360°

15:58

footage that I filmed by holding the

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little stick, right? But AI edited this

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entire 32 second clip. All of the

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angles, the color grading, the scenes,

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all of it. AI. Watch this. I'm going to

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play this for 32 seconds here. I like I

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go point at something and then it's it's

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videoing it. comes back to Max, Lauren,

16:19

Jack, myself.

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All this people waving at the character

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over here, the scene cuts, what to cut

16:27

out, what to keep this zoom in right

16:29

here. Dude, that was all AI. I didn't

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tell it to do that. Picking up this

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scene over here and this ride or this

16:36

ride. This all AI edited. I did nothing

16:43

other than film it. And so in the

16:45

future, you know, we're just gonna have

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the like as which is already here. We're

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filming it all on our on our phones or,

16:52

you know, whatever our glasses or

16:54

whatever, which I guess is the perfect

16:56

spot to put up my Meta uh, you know,

16:58

affiliate code. You get $30 off if you

17:01

get the Meta Glasses, you know, and all

17:05

it gets AI edited in the future. We're

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actually creating more demand. that

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might not be profitable right now for a

17:11

lot of these companies, but it's it's so

17:13

functional uh for as a consumer or as a

17:17

user. I couldn't be more excited about

17:20

this kind of stuff. I just flip it

17:22

through. Oh, by the way, shout out to uh

17:24

the Cybert truck. By the way, yesterday

17:26

I took this picture with my meta

17:27

glasses, by the way. Yesterday I um I

17:30

took the Cybertruck to Lowe's a few

17:32

times and I had to get this 12T 2 by6 on

17:35

my on uh in the car back home. Uh, and

17:37

so I ended up using uh the Cybert trucks

17:40

rack that I added on top and just bungee

17:43

corded it on it. I think it looks pretty

17:45

good. The black on black. Uh, I think it

17:48

looks awesome. So, I was really excited

17:50

about the functionality there of the

17:51

Cyber Truck. But, but anyway, the point

17:53

is this is what we're seeing with this

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AI boom right now. Now, let's listen for

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a moment to to what we're seeing the

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Coreweave CEO say. He had an interview

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on CNBC this morning with Sarah Eisen

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and uh you know quick note also on

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Nvidia because you know me and the

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balance sheet

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>> Kevin is much more interested than most

18:16

people by the way in the balance sheet.

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>> Uh I am a big big big big big big fan of

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the balance sheet. There's nothing to

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complain about at Nvidia. It is so damn

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good. They have so much money. So it

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doesn't even matter that they're

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investing 100 bill into OpenAI. The 100

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billion to open AAI is a rounding error

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basically for Nvidia because they're

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their profit margins are so high.

18:38

They're bringing more than 50% to the

18:39

bottom line. It's it's just it's insane.

18:42

It's it's incredible. Now, what matters

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heavily uh is that

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when we look at

18:53

cash flows from Nvidia, we have to ask

18:56

what is the money being spent on? If

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they're just issuing it all out as

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dividends, goes back to investors.

19:02

Great. That's fantastic.

19:05

But does it keep the cycle going? Maybe

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not.

19:10

On the flip side, if people want to sell

19:11

some of their stock, they can. But what

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are we getting out of Nvidia? Nvidia is

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saying, "Hey, hundred billion into

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OpenAI, not taking a controlling

19:19

interest. Open AAI worth $500 billion

19:21

right now. That's like one of the

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company. Nvidia is paying 38 times sales

19:26

for this. So they're not getting a

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discount on uh OpenAI as far as we're

19:32

aware and you know there are concerns

19:34

like SoftBank promises to invest $500

19:36

billion over four years yet they're

19:38

laying off people in their venture fund.

19:39

So that's sort of like all right you

19:41

know what's actually going on. I don't

19:42

know but I at the same time which has

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been killing it since we've been

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venturing it on the channel 23,000 AI

19:51

chips now and they say they have

19:52

capacity for 60,000

19:55

black wheel chips. The more I Ren stock

19:58

goes up, guess what? The more money they

20:01

have available to go buy more Nvidia

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chips. So

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circular in nature without a doubt. Does

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it make money? Yes. So here's Nvidia,

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you know, now at 183. But look at Iron

20:15

for example. Iron's up 7% today. So a

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lot of these companies, let's look at uh

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Coreweave. Core is up 5% right now.

20:22

Look, breaking above the 125 line. A

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critical line. This line has been so

20:27

critical. We've been we've been playing

20:28

this and setting up alpha report trades

20:30

on this on almost a daily basis. It

20:32

feels like it feels like maybe probably

20:34

like twice a week we talk about four

20:35

weeks and we're like that 125 line. Look

20:38

this morning we reject it again. We

20:40

bounce on it again. Now we're breaking

20:42

out over it probably because of this

20:43

Nvidia deal. But let's listen to the

20:46

core weave CEO and let's listen to see

20:48

what comments he has and we'll add our

20:50

own commentary.

20:52

>> Good to have you here. Fine. Well done.

20:55

So, so we were in these talks sort of on

20:57

the sidelines of the UN General Assembly

21:00

about how governments can work with

21:02

poor.

21:03

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>> right? And they're all sponsorship.

21:26

>> You also just fresh off of this trip

21:27

with President Trump to the UK

21:29

announcing all these deals.

21:31

>> All right, get to it. I want to hear the

21:32

comments. Here we go.

21:33

>> Thank you for having me. And I I do

21:35

think that uh both of these nibbings uh

21:38

really highlight um the realization that

21:41

when you're u building a planetary scale

21:45

infrastructure that's really required to

21:47

allow artificial intelligence to to to

21:49

to reach its potential that you are

21:52

going to have to plug into really all of

21:54

the resources uh that are available and

21:57

those are private sector resources uh

21:59

and those are public sector resources.

22:01

the the uh the meeting yesterday, the P3

22:03

meeting. Um it was a wonderful

22:05

opportunity for exchanging of ideas. Uh

22:08

the opportunity to be with the uh the

22:10

president and the prime minister in the

22:12

UK. Once again, uh just an incredible uh

22:16

opportunity to kind of uh bring together

22:18

different constituents uh that have

22:21

different tooling that allows for

22:25

the mobiliz Oh, Meta killed the $30 off

22:28

from Oh, Dude, that's lame. Are you

22:31

serious? Hold on. Let me see if there's

22:33

a new one. Why would they kill it? It

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was It was doing so well. So many people

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were getting it. Hold on. Let me see if

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I can get you a new one. I I'll I'll

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look right now if I can get a new one.

22:42

Uh while we listen to this, okay, I'll

22:44

try to get a new one. Uh give me, you

22:46

know, 30 seconds to sort of figure it

22:48

out.

22:50

Uh of the order of the magnitude of

22:52

capital that's required to allow this uh

22:55

uh buildout to occur.

22:56

>> What what is that? How big are we? So,

22:59

so I I think a big uh one of the things,

23:02

one of the narratives out there is that

23:04

keeping these incredibly large deals

23:06

being announced by uh uh um the the the

23:10

AI labs by by the hyperscalers uh by uh

23:14

the Neo clouds and you know incredible

23:18

uh indication of the scaling.

23:20

>> Uh no, there's a limit to how much you

23:22

can get on a referral so you have to ask

23:23

for somebody else. Damn, Beta you guys

23:26

are so dumb. I show you guys on a daily

23:28

basis and now you screw up the link

23:30

because like I don't have like a contact

23:32

at Meta, you know? I This was just from

23:34

the app and it's like, "Oh, you've maxed

23:36

out your referrals." It's kind of like

23:38

with Tesla, like my Tesla referral link,

23:40

it's maxed out. And I'm like, you guys

23:42

are so dumb

23:43

>> the demand. But what it does not do is

23:46

it doesn't really speak to all of the

23:48

things that need to happen and all the

23:51

investment that needs to occur in order

23:53

to uh provide an environment where these

23:56

investments in the data centers and the

23:58

supercomputers and and I'm talking about

24:00

this. So far he said nothing. This is so

24:03

damn s like say something already

24:05

person. It's everything from energy

24:07

exploration uh exploration

24:10

uh through um uh you know uh power

24:13

generation through

24:15

>> okay we know we know all this so

24:17

somebody here is complaining about the

24:18

coupon code the thing okay look really

24:21

quickly yes the coupon code expires but

24:25

the thing is the price goes up so that's

24:28

the whole point it's like we lock people

24:31

in at lower prices and then that way if

24:34

you got the knee Kevin heaven membership

24:35

for, you know, $400 effectively, you

24:39

know, in 2017, you know, uh, and now

24:42

it's $1,400 or whatever. Like in the

24:45

future it'll be even more. That That's

24:47

why. So, like when you hear, oh,

24:50

expiration or whatever, the price just

24:51

goes up

24:53

uh transmission uh all the way through

24:56

the data centers and ultimately up and

24:58

through the supercomputers to the to the

25:00

to the to the models and to the

25:02

application layers. And so, um,

25:04

>> okay, get to the point. It's it's

25:06

trillions of dollars and and you really

25:08

are rebuilding one of the fundamental uh

25:12

u um components of what the economy I'm

25:15

surprised this interview so far not a

25:19

lot of substance

25:21

like okay we've heard before yeah

25:24

trillion dollars redo everything I get

25:25

it like I'm about to turn this guy off

25:28

although they do have that MSA with

25:30

Nvidia you got to give them credit they

25:32

have the material service agreement with

25:33

Nvidia

25:34

and that material service agreement the

25:36

details of which we expect to get on

25:37

November 12th are going to be huge

25:40

because it's basically Nvidia's you know

25:43

conf like Nvidia's claim that they will

25:45

buy back excess data set or capacity and

25:49

that's big you know that basically

25:51

shifts the bag holding from coreweave to

25:53

Nvidia or generation is different than

25:55

what we saw in the docom the dotcom was

25:57

a bolt-on to the existing infrastructure

26:00

this requires really a a a new layer

26:03

because you're talking about a step

26:04

function and power consumption because

26:06

the computer powerful. Um the the uh um

26:10

you know it is a debate that goes on in

26:13

many circles like is this as as the

26:17

represents on the same order of

26:18

magnitude greater or lesser than uh you

26:22

know the advent of the internet and and

26:24

and

26:26

I believe that you know over the long

26:29

term you don't get to put these things

26:31

in in a pecking order. All you get to

26:32

say is this will be one of the seinal

26:35

technology buildouts and one of the

26:38

seinal technologies of our future.

26:41

That's why it was so interesting to

26:42

listen to the president address Jensen

26:45

in that room and say I hope you're right

26:46

because the commitment to get it made is

26:49

much different than it was in in the

26:51

'90s.

26:53

He so far has said nothing. This is a

26:56

waste of time.

26:59

Somebody says, "Yeah, getting Kevin's

27:01

course. One of the best decisions I

27:02

could have made a few years back. Very

27:03

proud to be in the group." Oh, thank you

27:04

for that. Yeah, it's interesting. You

27:06

know, the um what's it called? Uh

27:07

there's somebody else who g who donated

27:09

$20 or just going like, "Oh, you know,

27:11

basically, you know, been a course

27:12

member since 2021. Great decision. That

27:15

was really nice.

27:16

>> I I think um you know, there there's

27:19

there's a another narrative out there is

27:21

like, are we in a bubble?" And that's

27:23

that's that's come up again and again.

27:25

And then I'm sure if I you know kind of

27:26

sat here long enough you guys would ask

27:28

and and given the sums we're talking

27:30

about it's not an unrealistic question

27:32

to ask because is that capital going to

27:34

actually sign. So so one of the things

27:38

that's incredibly important to

27:39

understand here is that

27:44

the overwhelming majority of the compute

27:46

that's being built right now is being

27:47

built to serve inference.

27:50

Inference represents the monetization of

27:53

artificial intelligence. It is I don't

27:56

know. Okay. There's training and there's

27:59

inference. We get it. Inference, he

28:01

says, represents the monetization of AI.

28:03

Do I agree with that? I guess so.

28:05

Because like for example, with House

28:07

Act, we're doing all this training. Uh

28:10

we don't we can't monetize training. We

28:13

can only monetize inference. you know,

28:16

when somebody like what we want is we

28:18

want you to be able to open our software

28:21

and me tell you if a property you're

28:23

looking at is a good deal or not. And I

28:25

think that lets us charge money that

28:27

that creates value for people, right?

28:30

And when you create value for people,

28:31

you could charge money. So I guess he's

28:34

right. Inference is the monetization

28:37

component. Okay. All right. All right.

28:38

All right. because

28:41

the hyperscalers that are serving

28:43

clients are being paid to build this

28:46

infrastructure to serve their current

28:48

demand and their projection of demand.

28:51

And so just because a lot of money flows

28:53

into a particular portion of the economy

28:55

doesn't imply that it's a bubble. What

28:57

it is implying is that there is

28:59

tremendous broad-based demand across the

29:03

technology space as the society. I mean,

29:07

yes, I agree that right now there is

29:10

broad-based demand and and it just keeps

29:13

getting fueled. So, there's no sign of

29:16

it hopping, so to speak. This is true.

29:19

As the uh enterprise businesses begin to

29:23

integrate that into their uh uh

29:27

workflows and it's just, you know, I I I

29:30

think that everybody jumps to the

29:31

concept of is this a bubble? Um because

29:33

they they just see these vast sums and

29:35

they're like, "Oh, it must be a bubble."

29:36

And I just think you got back to why is

29:39

the money flowing there and is it being

29:41

supported by commercial activity,

29:43

>> right? Well, I don't know that we all do

29:44

that and in part I mean the companies

29:46

that are deploying this C. Okay. All

29:48

right. I I mean like you know not a lot

29:51

of substance in that CNBC interview have

29:53

to say I think CNBC did a bad job on

29:56

that but that's okay. It's CNBC so take

29:58

it for what it's worth. Uh but

30:02

I think his his point of view is right

30:06

on that inference is the monetization

30:09

cycle. Now the biggest argument that

30:12

people have especially like MIT is that

30:14

so much money is being invested in AI

30:16

but so so little is coming out of it.

30:19

Does it just take more time? Maybe you

30:22

know that so so we'll see. uh can can AI

30:26

be productive enough to uh to to

30:29

actually be monetizable uh you know more

30:32

so than than the investments that are

30:33

being made to where you're actually

30:34

getting a return on your investment

30:36

rather than even just some portion of a

30:38

return of your investment. We'll see.

30:40

But broadly, I think this is useful

30:42

because you have to remember that Nvidia

30:44

right now is only trading for I mean

30:48

barely a two peg, barely a two peg on

30:51

this stock. And

30:54

to me, uh, a company with these margins

30:58

and the size of the pricing power they

31:00

have, here's Weeble again, bow transfer

31:03

2%.

31:04

Meet Dear Weeble. uh they are

31:11

they're not fully valued on just a basic

31:14

PEG ratio basis.

31:18

So we'll see that's my take on what's

31:20

going on with Nvidia knows about this.

31:22

>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and

31:24

see how it goes. Congratulations, man.

31:26

You have done so much. People love you.

31:27

People look up to you.

31:28

>> Kevin Pra there, financial analyst and

31:30

YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great to

31:32

get your take.

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