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wow this was not of my bingo card
Bloomberg just moments ago released an
article bagging on artificial
intelligence's progress at all of them
almost open AI which obviously works
with Microsoft and Powers u a co-pilot
Google anthropic which Amazon keeps
throwing money into they talk about
Apple backing out of a deal they talk
about the uh artificial general
intelligence bubble bursting uh they
talk about failures of new models and
some of the cons strengths that are
slowing progress substantially this is
really interesting and in my opinion has
some really big implications and we
should talk about what some of these
challenges are so we kind of know okay
like what does this mean for us is this
really a big deal is this bad or is this
just some more clickbait let's take a
look at this together open AI Google and
anthropic struggle to build more
advanced AI three of the leading AI
companies are seeing de diminishing
returns from their costly efforts to
develop newer
models now this is interesting to me
because they specifically say with open
AI for example that they're working on
this model known as Orin uh orin's
apparently different from open AI 01
preview you can use now or 40 just keep
this in mind these are all slightly
different supposed to be improvements on
each other like 01 has sort of a
thinking model uh and when I say
thinking model basically if you give it
a generic prompt like here's just a
generic prompt I took a screenshot of
help me write a business plan for
eliminate stand blah blah blah right it
it thinks first basically what it's
really doing is breaking apart your
request making a better prompt and then
responding to its prompt which is good
because frankly it takes the whole
prompting phase away from you which is
great but is it really a huge leap
forward maybe not uh but Orin is
supposed to be that huge leap forward
but apparently according to two people
familiar with the matter who spoke on a
condition of anonymity it's always those
Anonymous leakers as of the late summer
Orin fell short when trying to answer
coding questions that it had not been
trained on which basically means it's
just trying to regurgitate stuff it's
already seen to you which is a little
problematic because the point of
artificial intelligence is to get us to
the point where it can respond to things
that it has not seen before you know
like I like this analogy of
if let's just say everybody tomorrow
wants to look up uh the history of John
F Kennedy's
life how often do you actually have to
run that compute through an Nvidia
h100 well the answer is once you process
it once and then you've basically
created or just stolen the Wikipedia
article and then you just from cash feed
that response to all of the people who
ask the same questions I mean how many
different questions could there possibly
be you know are you know is dietary fat
going to make me fat you know what are
bowling balls made of what's inside of a
bowling ball yeah tell me about JFK like
all these things could just be cashed
encyclopedic responses basically but
when it becomes a problem is when newer
models
fail to to help us solve problems that
they have not seen yet before because
that is kind of what we want them to do
that's what you need in order to get to
artificial general intelligence to be
humanlike and they're saying Orin so far
is not considered as big of a step up as
open ai's existing models were from
prior models so basically they're saying
hey look we had a big step up from 3.5
where it was like oh my gosh look this
is an explosion if this goes on forever
you know we're going to be on the moon
and really Orin is sort of like H maybe
it's you know tapering off a little and
so this is basically the definition of
diminishing turns I've actually
regularly on the channel talked about
how I think artificial intelligence is
going to follow this stair step pattern
where you'll have really big moments and
really big momentary breakthroughs for
example you know maybe uh uh 3 to all of
a sudden that 3.5 model maybe you could
even give 40 that stair step but what
happens is these bases become
substantially longer and longer and we
might not have another breakthrough a
huge breakthrough until 2030 which I
recognize sounds depressing I'm just
saying as an example it takes longer for
those next real breakthroughs to
actually come and what that actually
looks like uh is this
exponential uh cost increase compared to
uh the
logarithmic decay of progress now that
was like a really big word sentence
let's put it just basically I'm going to
redraw what Nvidia said so Nvidia said
which is true for Tesla and all these
other companies that your costs to train
and develop AI
Skyrocket uh more Talent more chips more
processing but at the same time as that
happens your progress actually looks a
whole lot more like this where you grow
a lot at the beginning and then you
taper out so you're spending a whole lot
more money to make a whole lot less
progress you know quick example if let's
just to be extreme let's say you know
your first $10 million of spend got you
to here you know which is 50% progress
and now all of a sudden you're spending
uh 10 oops now all of a sudden you're
spending 10
billion to make. 1% progress you know it
gets a little depressing in terms of how
fast you're actually getting anywhere
right but let's keep going with the
article because it's very interesting so
uh opening ey by the way just finished
their uh one of their initial training
rounds in September for Orin and they
fundraised for that round they actually
fundraised uh $6.6 billion this is
considered the largest Venture Capital
round ever led by Jared Kushner you know
Ivanka Trump's husband works with uh
Donald Trump they're all connected it
values open AI at $157 billion and for
an unknown reason we actually saw Apple
back out of the deal don't know if it
was because of valuation or apple
doesn't like the progress or what it is
uh but apparently now you're seeing some
stumbling blocks and these diminishing
returns which you're also seeing at
Google with Gemini not living up to
internal expectations according to three
people with knowledge of the matter
anthropic has not seen a timetable for
its 3.5 Opus release and they've
actually removed some references to
coming soon companies are also finding a
difficult to find untapped sources of
human-made training data and so you
don't actually have new data to train
with so this is problematic and now open
AI is putting Orin through a human
feedback process which in my opinion
brings me back to like the days Tesla
was talking about oh yeah we have all
these humans sitting in a room and they
they sit around and they label things
like stop signs and traffic lights and
and deal with Edge case scenarios which
I think a lot of AI companies don't want
you to realize iizz that there is a lot
of human intervention in AI training and
when AI hasn't seen a scenario before
it's kind of like
hm yeah I'm going to make a lot of
mistakes before I actually get the right
answer here which isn't great much of
the tech industry has B on the so-called
scaling laws that say more computing
power data and larger models will
inevitably pave the way for greater
leaps forward in the power of AI see
I've questioned that because that's
basically this sort of FO moment
mentality of oh things are just going to
go up forever and and then because
there's more scale with these data
centers you'll actually progress even
faster I don't think so I've been very
much the believer that you're seeing
stair steps of improvement the 3.5
moment you know maybe the 40 moment but
then what happens between those
different stairs is it actually takes
longer and longer and longer uh to
improve and you end up with this
logarithmic curve until you truly get
another leap forward which you know I
think is probably like a 2030 the age
bubble is bursting a little bit says a
chief ethic scientists at AI startup
hugging face oops uh it's become clear
she said that different training
approaches may need may be needed to
make AI models work it's basically way
saying like we can't just keep trying to
train with the same things we've been
doing it's just not getting us any
further which is
unfortunate Deep Mind from Google says
we're uh you know pleased with the
progress that we're making anthropic and
open AI declined to comment people call
them scaling laws it's a misnomer
they're not laws of the universe they're
empirical regularities I'm going to bet
in favor of them continuing but I'm not
certain of that it's also somebody in
the AI industry a lot of things that
could derail the process like we could
run out of data say some plateauing
performance is basically in line with my
uh stair stepper thesis not enough uh
data to create products uh uh now you
could spit out clever essays and poems
but are you going to get smarter than a
noble laurate training it off Wikipedia
posts and YouTube captions probably not
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in particular has ink deals with
Publishers to fill some of the need for
high quality data and also adapt to
Growing legal pressure from Publishers
and artists over data used to generate
or build these AI products some tech
companies are also hiring people with
graduate degrees that can label data
related to their own subject expertise
so now you're basically hiring humans
and phds to write encyclopedia articles
for you you're throwing money at people
I should spell that correctly but
whatever tech companies are also turning
into syn turning to synthetic data such
as computer generated images or text
meant to mimic content put together by
uh real people but there are limits to
that we can generate quality
synthetically yet we struggle to get
unique high quality data sets you know
in my opinion this is a little bit kind
of like the problem that Tesla runs into
with FSD is the you really need you
don't need more data of uh you know the
Tesla sitting in the left lane on the
highway or really anywhere on the
highway you need millions of more Edge
case scenario interactions and and that
the AI can see over and over and over
again uh so far it feels like you
regularly have this lately with the
latest FSD Updates this one step forward
one step back it's a little depressing
where it's kind of like oh okay like
oh that's fixed now oh but now that's
broken kind of sucks but anyway uh it's
still great like don't get me wrong like
those little setbacks suck but FSD in
general I love anyway still AI companies
cons continue to pursue a more is better
playbook in their quest to buil products
that level human intelligence increasing
the amount of computer spend spending
hundreds of millions of dollars to train
bleeding edge AI models as cost rise so
do the expectations for each model
people are get getting very excited uh
but anthropic has uh yet to uh you know
provide a date for when its Opus is
coming out uh you know they've removed
references that 3.5 Opus will be coming
later this year challenges to develop
3.5 Opus according to two other people
familiar with the matter uh Opus uh you
know some of the marketing in terms of
timetable was removed fine uh Google's
still struggling to restore the ability
to generate images after it gave us a
bunch of woke stuff more recently open
AI rolled out a a preview version of uh
01 that spends extra time Computing
that's the picture of uh you know what
what I uh what I showed you uh you know
incremental Improvement I would say they
have a limit in terms of how many times
you can actually use it and the downside
of that 01 is it doesn't actually give
you current results whereas like grock
does and 40 at GPT does also talking
about very good releases coming later
this year but that won't include J GPT
or GPT 5 yet uh and then now what you're
getting is like Google anthropic open AI
is now shifting attention from the size
of the models to newer use cases
including a crop of AI tools called
agents that can book flights or send
emails on a user's behalf we will have
better and better models but I think the
thing that will feel like the next big
breakthrough will be agents oo um I mean
AI is already making big leaps and
customer service I do actually think
that like you're going to have a massive
cycle of unemployment at some point in
the future because of how much
artificial intelligence uh is being used
I mean even if you just take 10% of all
customer service workers and replace
them with AI uh or you know make
existing people more productive with AI
it's kind of a GameChanger like you know
I was on a phone for like a stupid very
minor problem with QuickBooks
for 17 minutes and at the end of the 17
minutes the person told me yeah you're
just going to have to call back like
everything looks good but you're just
going to have to call back to actually
make the final change uh when the other
team is in they're not in right now and
you're just going to have to go through
everything that you explain now again
and then because they'll be there they
can help you and I'm like you know like
a good AI could have told me that in the
first 20 seconds like for this problem
instead of spending 17 minutes on the
phone now you should call back during
these
hours
bro it's just crazy so there's there are
definitely a lot of efficiency
improvements uh that can be made at all
walks of the world but uh yeah in terms
of these these moonshots and and then we
now we got to talk implications for a
moment it's worth considering there's
some limitations here
but then that also makes me concerned
because you know what is this going to
mean for a company like Nvidia you know
Wall Street is expecting Nvidia to
basically you know it's been doubling
its uh its revenues because you know
they've exploded oh my gosh sheap you
like graphic cards are really good for
for AI this is fantastic bye bye bye you
know so their revenue doubled basically
in 2024 it's expected to double again uh
by January 2025 so that's 23 double 24
double basically they have a weird
calendar year uh then it's expected to
grow by about 50% in 2026 down to 20% in
2017 and 28 uh and 16% in
2029 but what happens if all of a sudden
those growth rates go to zero uh you
know and you basically you just maintain
these high levels because think about it
you got to resell new chips this is why
Nvidia is trying to get on a one-year
refresh cycle yeah yeah yeah now buy
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2 buy Blackwell 3 okay let's let's skip
a number here like the iPhone's done you
know we're going to skip iPhone 2 we're
going to go to I don't know Blackwell
five even though we didn't have a four
you know whatever right uh it and it's
all designed to sort of Market more
sales because and if you if people stop
buying the new product because the
current product is so good then your
growth rate is going to plummet at
Nvidia and I mean don't get me wrong I
love Nvidia but it's about 100 $50 per
share company divided by $284 you're
trading for about 53 times earnings your
expected growth over the years going
forward here the next four years
is uh about 25% per year which puts you
at about a two Peg you know price to
earnings growth ratio which actually
isn't that bad for a designing company
it actually feels kind of cheap it
should be probably closer to about a 2.6
Peg but to me that's a sign that some
people are starting to scratch their
heads going crap what if Nvidia doesn't
grow at 25% and what if they just like
even if they just keep revenue where it
is and it doesn't go negative which it
could their cash flow is still going to
be really really good but your price to
earnings growth ratio is going to be
infinite you know let's go down a little
bit and say they just grow at 5% per
year okay well now you have a 10 Peg
which is way over on the valuation and
now the valuation has to go down by five
V which means you know all of a sudden
you have this G you know AI related
crash where Nvidia goes down to $30 a
share I'm not saying that's going to
happen I'm just saying like on a quick
valuation basis that's what can happen
when people expect these insane growth
figures in hopium again don't get me
wrong I love Nvidia I think it's a great
company but this is a big red flag right
here and we saw what happened when you
know what was it uh arm and AMD they
missed by like 60 and 80 basis points on
guidance and then their stock dropped
like 8 to 15% over the next trading days
not great I mean look at AMD year to dat
AMD is up
3.6% year-to date look at arm year to
dat a double not bad go out a year 170
fantastic had a lot of growth but where
is it from Summer's Peak actually down
about 23% already since Summer's Peak
and arm you know might be a little
different because it did IPO uh you know
more recently when when did they IPO
again they ipoed in September of 23
after Nvidia wanted to buy them and the
deal didn't go through because of uh you
know good old antitrust but you know the
question is okay what what ends up
happening if growth starts slowing down
on some of these and this article
somewhat feeds us a little bit of
concern that some of the valuations and
expect expectations here could start
being being a little bit Rich we could
start seeing some oopsy dupsies now one
of the other things that we've
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get lay offs but then because you have
ai because the AI bubbles person but
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even more or you hire back less which
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efforts from the fed or otherwise even
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