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wow this was not of my bingo card

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Bloomberg just moments ago released an

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article bagging on artificial

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intelligence's progress at all of them

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almost open AI which obviously works

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with Microsoft and Powers u a co-pilot

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Google anthropic which Amazon keeps

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throwing money into they talk about

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Apple backing out of a deal they talk

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about the uh artificial general

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intelligence bubble bursting uh they

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talk about failures of new models and

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some of the cons strengths that are

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slowing progress substantially this is

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really interesting and in my opinion has

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some really big implications and we

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should talk about what some of these

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challenges are so we kind of know okay

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like what does this mean for us is this

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really a big deal is this bad or is this

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just some more clickbait let's take a

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look at this together open AI Google and

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anthropic struggle to build more

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advanced AI three of the leading AI

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companies are seeing de diminishing

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returns from their costly efforts to

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develop newer

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models now this is interesting to me

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because they specifically say with open

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AI for example that they're working on

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this model known as Orin uh orin's

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apparently different from open AI 01

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preview you can use now or 40 just keep

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this in mind these are all slightly

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different supposed to be improvements on

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each other like 01 has sort of a

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thinking model uh and when I say

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thinking model basically if you give it

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a generic prompt like here's just a

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generic prompt I took a screenshot of

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help me write a business plan for

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eliminate stand blah blah blah right it

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it thinks first basically what it's

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really doing is breaking apart your

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request making a better prompt and then

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responding to its prompt which is good

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because frankly it takes the whole

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prompting phase away from you which is

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great but is it really a huge leap

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forward maybe not uh but Orin is

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supposed to be that huge leap forward

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but apparently according to two people

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familiar with the matter who spoke on a

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condition of anonymity it's always those

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Anonymous leakers as of the late summer

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Orin fell short when trying to answer

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coding questions that it had not been

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trained on which basically means it's

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just trying to regurgitate stuff it's

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already seen to you which is a little

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problematic because the point of

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artificial intelligence is to get us to

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the point where it can respond to things

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that it has not seen before you know

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like I like this analogy of

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if let's just say everybody tomorrow

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wants to look up uh the history of John

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F Kennedy's

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life how often do you actually have to

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run that compute through an Nvidia

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h100 well the answer is once you process

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it once and then you've basically

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created or just stolen the Wikipedia

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article and then you just from cash feed

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that response to all of the people who

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ask the same questions I mean how many

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different questions could there possibly

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be you know are you know is dietary fat

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going to make me fat you know what are

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bowling balls made of what's inside of a

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bowling ball yeah tell me about JFK like

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all these things could just be cashed

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encyclopedic responses basically but

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when it becomes a problem is when newer

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models

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fail to to help us solve problems that

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they have not seen yet before because

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that is kind of what we want them to do

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that's what you need in order to get to

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artificial general intelligence to be

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humanlike and they're saying Orin so far

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is not considered as big of a step up as

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open ai's existing models were from

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prior models so basically they're saying

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hey look we had a big step up from 3.5

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where it was like oh my gosh look this

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is an explosion if this goes on forever

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you know we're going to be on the moon

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and really Orin is sort of like H maybe

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it's you know tapering off a little and

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so this is basically the definition of

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diminishing turns I've actually

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regularly on the channel talked about

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how I think artificial intelligence is

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going to follow this stair step pattern

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where you'll have really big moments and

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really big momentary breakthroughs for

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example you know maybe uh uh 3 to all of

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a sudden that 3.5 model maybe you could

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even give 40 that stair step but what

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happens is these bases become

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substantially longer and longer and we

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might not have another breakthrough a

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huge breakthrough until 2030 which I

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recognize sounds depressing I'm just

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saying as an example it takes longer for

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those next real breakthroughs to

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actually come and what that actually

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looks like uh is this

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exponential uh cost increase compared to

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uh the

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logarithmic decay of progress now that

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was like a really big word sentence

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let's put it just basically I'm going to

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redraw what Nvidia said so Nvidia said

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which is true for Tesla and all these

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other companies that your costs to train

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and develop AI

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Skyrocket uh more Talent more chips more

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processing but at the same time as that

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happens your progress actually looks a

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whole lot more like this where you grow

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a lot at the beginning and then you

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taper out so you're spending a whole lot

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more money to make a whole lot less

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progress you know quick example if let's

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just to be extreme let's say you know

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your first $10 million of spend got you

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to here you know which is 50% progress

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and now all of a sudden you're spending

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uh 10 oops now all of a sudden you're

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spending 10

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billion to make. 1% progress you know it

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gets a little depressing in terms of how

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fast you're actually getting anywhere

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right but let's keep going with the

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article because it's very interesting so

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uh opening ey by the way just finished

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their uh one of their initial training

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rounds in September for Orin and they

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fundraised for that round they actually

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fundraised uh $6.6 billion this is

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considered the largest Venture Capital

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round ever led by Jared Kushner you know

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Ivanka Trump's husband works with uh

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Donald Trump they're all connected it

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values open AI at $157 billion and for

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an unknown reason we actually saw Apple

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back out of the deal don't know if it

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was because of valuation or apple

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doesn't like the progress or what it is

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uh but apparently now you're seeing some

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stumbling blocks and these diminishing

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returns which you're also seeing at

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Google with Gemini not living up to

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internal expectations according to three

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people with knowledge of the matter

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anthropic has not seen a timetable for

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its 3.5 Opus release and they've

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actually removed some references to

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coming soon companies are also finding a

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difficult to find untapped sources of

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human-made training data and so you

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don't actually have new data to train

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with so this is problematic and now open

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AI is putting Orin through a human

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feedback process which in my opinion

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brings me back to like the days Tesla

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was talking about oh yeah we have all

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these humans sitting in a room and they

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they sit around and they label things

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like stop signs and traffic lights and

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and deal with Edge case scenarios which

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I think a lot of AI companies don't want

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you to realize iizz that there is a lot

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of human intervention in AI training and

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when AI hasn't seen a scenario before

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it's kind of like

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hm yeah I'm going to make a lot of

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mistakes before I actually get the right

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answer here which isn't great much of

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the tech industry has B on the so-called

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scaling laws that say more computing

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power data and larger models will

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inevitably pave the way for greater

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leaps forward in the power of AI see

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I've questioned that because that's

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basically this sort of FO moment

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mentality of oh things are just going to

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go up forever and and then because

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there's more scale with these data

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centers you'll actually progress even

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faster I don't think so I've been very

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much the believer that you're seeing

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stair steps of improvement the 3.5

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moment you know maybe the 40 moment but

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then what happens between those

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different stairs is it actually takes

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longer and longer and longer uh to

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improve and you end up with this

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logarithmic curve until you truly get

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another leap forward which you know I

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think is probably like a 2030 the age

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bubble is bursting a little bit says a

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chief ethic scientists at AI startup

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hugging face oops uh it's become clear

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she said that different training

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approaches may need may be needed to

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make AI models work it's basically way

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saying like we can't just keep trying to

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train with the same things we've been

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doing it's just not getting us any

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further which is

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unfortunate Deep Mind from Google says

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we're uh you know pleased with the

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progress that we're making anthropic and

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open AI declined to comment people call

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them scaling laws it's a misnomer

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they're not laws of the universe they're

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empirical regularities I'm going to bet

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in favor of them continuing but I'm not

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certain of that it's also somebody in

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the AI industry a lot of things that

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could derail the process like we could

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run out of data say some plateauing

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performance is basically in line with my

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uh stair stepper thesis not enough uh

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data to create products uh uh now you

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could spit out clever essays and poems

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but are you going to get smarter than a

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noble laurate training it off Wikipedia

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posts and YouTube captions probably not

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companies are also hiring people with

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graduate degrees that can label data

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related to their own subject expertise

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so now you're basically hiring humans

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and phds to write encyclopedia articles

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for you you're throwing money at people

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I should spell that correctly but

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whatever tech companies are also turning

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into syn turning to synthetic data such

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as computer generated images or text

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meant to mimic content put together by

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uh real people but there are limits to

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that we can generate quality

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synthetically yet we struggle to get

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unique high quality data sets you know

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in my opinion this is a little bit kind

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of like the problem that Tesla runs into

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with FSD is the you really need you

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don't need more data of uh you know the

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Tesla sitting in the left lane on the

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highway or really anywhere on the

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highway you need millions of more Edge

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case scenario interactions and and that

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the AI can see over and over and over

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again uh so far it feels like you

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regularly have this lately with the

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latest FSD Updates this one step forward

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one step back it's a little depressing

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where it's kind of like oh okay like

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oh that's fixed now oh but now that's

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broken kind of sucks but anyway uh it's

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still great like don't get me wrong like

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those little setbacks suck but FSD in

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general I love anyway still AI companies

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cons continue to pursue a more is better

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playbook in their quest to buil products

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that level human intelligence increasing

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the amount of computer spend spending

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hundreds of millions of dollars to train

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bleeding edge AI models as cost rise so

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do the expectations for each model

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people are get getting very excited uh

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but anthropic has uh yet to uh you know

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provide a date for when its Opus is

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coming out uh you know they've removed

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references that 3.5 Opus will be coming

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later this year challenges to develop

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3.5 Opus according to two other people

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familiar with the matter uh Opus uh you

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know some of the marketing in terms of

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timetable was removed fine uh Google's

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still struggling to restore the ability

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to generate images after it gave us a

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bunch of woke stuff more recently open

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AI rolled out a a preview version of uh

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01 that spends extra time Computing

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that's the picture of uh you know what

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what I uh what I showed you uh you know

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incremental Improvement I would say they

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have a limit in terms of how many times

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you can actually use it and the downside

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of that 01 is it doesn't actually give

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you current results whereas like grock

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does and 40 at GPT does also talking

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about very good releases coming later

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this year but that won't include J GPT

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or GPT 5 yet uh and then now what you're

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getting is like Google anthropic open AI

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is now shifting attention from the size

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of the models to newer use cases

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including a crop of AI tools called

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agents that can book flights or send

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emails on a user's behalf we will have

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better and better models but I think the

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thing that will feel like the next big

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breakthrough will be agents oo um I mean

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AI is already making big leaps and

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customer service I do actually think

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that like you're going to have a massive

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cycle of unemployment at some point in

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the future because of how much

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artificial intelligence uh is being used

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I mean even if you just take 10% of all

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customer service workers and replace

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them with AI uh or you know make

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existing people more productive with AI

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it's kind of a GameChanger like you know

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I was on a phone for like a stupid very

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minor problem with QuickBooks

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for 17 minutes and at the end of the 17

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minutes the person told me yeah you're

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just going to have to call back like

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everything looks good but you're just

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going to have to call back to actually

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make the final change uh when the other

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team is in they're not in right now and

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you're just going to have to go through

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everything that you explain now again

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and then because they'll be there they

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can help you and I'm like you know like

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a good AI could have told me that in the

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first 20 seconds like for this problem

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instead of spending 17 minutes on the

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phone now you should call back during

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these

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hours

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bro it's just crazy so there's there are

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definitely a lot of efficiency

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improvements uh that can be made at all

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walks of the world but uh yeah in terms

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of these these moonshots and and then we

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now we got to talk implications for a

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moment it's worth considering there's

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some limitations here

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but then that also makes me concerned

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because you know what is this going to

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mean for a company like Nvidia you know

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Wall Street is expecting Nvidia to

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basically you know it's been doubling

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its uh its revenues because you know

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they've exploded oh my gosh sheap you

15:16

like graphic cards are really good for

15:18

for AI this is fantastic bye bye bye you

15:21

know so their revenue doubled basically

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in 2024 it's expected to double again uh

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by January 2025 so that's 23 double 24

15:28

double basically they have a weird

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calendar year uh then it's expected to

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grow by about 50% in 2026 down to 20% in

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2017 and 28 uh and 16% in

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2029 but what happens if all of a sudden

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those growth rates go to zero uh you

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know and you basically you just maintain

15:49

these high levels because think about it

15:51

you got to resell new chips this is why

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Nvidia is trying to get on a one-year

15:55

refresh cycle yeah yeah yeah now buy

15:57

Blackwell yeah now buy the buy Blackwell

15:59

2 buy Blackwell 3 okay let's let's skip

16:03

a number here like the iPhone's done you

16:05

know we're going to skip iPhone 2 we're

16:06

going to go to I don't know Blackwell

16:09

five even though we didn't have a four

16:11

you know whatever right uh it and it's

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all designed to sort of Market more

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sales because and if you if people stop

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buying the new product because the

16:20

current product is so good then your

16:22

growth rate is going to plummet at

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Nvidia and I mean don't get me wrong I

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love Nvidia but it's about 100 $50 per

16:29

share company divided by $284 you're

16:32

trading for about 53 times earnings your

16:35

expected growth over the years going

16:38

forward here the next four years

16:41

is uh about 25% per year which puts you

16:45

at about a two Peg you know price to

16:47

earnings growth ratio which actually

16:49

isn't that bad for a designing company

16:51

it actually feels kind of cheap it

16:54

should be probably closer to about a 2.6

16:56

Peg but to me that's a sign that some

16:58

people are starting to scratch their

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heads going crap what if Nvidia doesn't

17:02

grow at 25% and what if they just like

17:05

even if they just keep revenue where it

17:08

is and it doesn't go negative which it

17:10

could their cash flow is still going to

17:12

be really really good but your price to

17:14

earnings growth ratio is going to be

17:17

infinite you know let's go down a little

17:19

bit and say they just grow at 5% per

17:22

year okay well now you have a 10 Peg

17:24

which is way over on the valuation and

17:26

now the valuation has to go down by five

17:29

V which means you know all of a sudden

17:30

you have this G you know AI related

17:32

crash where Nvidia goes down to $30 a

17:35

share I'm not saying that's going to

17:36

happen I'm just saying like on a quick

17:38

valuation basis that's what can happen

17:40

when people expect these insane growth

17:43

figures in hopium again don't get me

17:45

wrong I love Nvidia I think it's a great

17:47

company but this is a big red flag right

17:49

here and we saw what happened when you

17:52

know what was it uh arm and AMD they

17:54

missed by like 60 and 80 basis points on

17:58

guidance and then their stock dropped

18:00

like 8 to 15% over the next trading days

18:05

not great I mean look at AMD year to dat

18:08

AMD is up

18:10

3.6% year-to date look at arm year to

18:14

dat a double not bad go out a year 170

18:20

fantastic had a lot of growth but where

18:22

is it from Summer's Peak actually down

18:24

about 23% already since Summer's Peak

18:27

and arm you know might be a little

18:29

different because it did IPO uh you know

18:32

more recently when when did they IPO

18:34

again they ipoed in September of 23

18:37

after Nvidia wanted to buy them and the

18:39

deal didn't go through because of uh you

18:41

know good old antitrust but you know the

18:45

question is okay what what ends up

18:47

happening if growth starts slowing down

18:48

on some of these and this article

18:51

somewhat feeds us a little bit of

18:53

concern that some of the valuations and

18:54

expect expectations here could start

18:58

being being a little bit Rich we could

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start seeing some oopsy dupsies now one

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of the other things that we've

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discovered is the labor market and

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recession very important is that when

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stocks go up you generally don't

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generate more jobs or

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hiring when stocks go down you tend to

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lay off more so what happens if you now

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have a dual Factor where stocks fall you

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get lay offs but then because you have

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ai because the AI bubbles person but

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because you have ai you actually lay off

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even more or you hire back less which

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makes you know potential stimulus

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efforts from the fed or otherwise even

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harder kind of crazy it I don't know

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where we're going in the world but I

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