China’s Inflation Disaster & Nio Stock.
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why does the story keep coming up that
that China is going to boost inflation
again they've got they've got the
opposite problem in China they're trying
to stimulate and then
to some extent their GDP is going to
miss even the downwardly revised
forecast that they had uh and uh the I
think the thinking is that hey if Europe
and America need to raise rates well
then China needs to raise rates as well
but China is really facing at least
according to this fantastic Wall Street
Journal piece that came out which I
agree with because mostly we've been
saying a lot of this uh for the past
many months here and that China is
actually facing a more likely risk of
quite frankly deflation price is charged
by Chinese factories tumbled in May at
their steepest annual Pace in seven
years and consumer prices barely moved
the Wall Street Journal suggests that
not only is this obviously bad for
China's a five percent uh growth Target
this year which is uh pounded by sort of
their Miss on exports just a few days
ago but ultimately if they end up
getting into the cycle of essentially
persistent deflation you could end up
having an economy that falls victim to
the downsides of deflation remember the
downsides of deflation the downsides of
deflation are more psychological than
they are practical because from a
practical point of view we should all
want deflation right we should want
prices to come down unfortunately what
happens when prices come down that is
prices for things that we need to buy is
as a society we just delay the purchase
of those things for example if we
suspect that the prices of a car are
going to keep coming down then we would
eventually expect that to the extent we
can we would just wait to buy the car
but the problem is the more companies
and businesses wait to invest in either
vehicles or assets or whatever
the less money circulates throughout the
economy and then you actually end up
with GDP shrinkage which is really bad
this is why central Bankers along with
obviously like monetizing the debt come
on let's be real but this is why
generally Central Bankers want to Target
around a two percent inflation rate they
want some inflation so that way there's
this incentive to continue to invest and
innovate and grow and so what we're
seeing in China with these falling
prices is uh Obviously good for Global
inflation it's an anchor to Global
inflation but it also is a sign that
China is quite different from the rest
of the world in terms of where it is
economically much of Europe and the
United States or Australia or Canada
have seen pain from higher interest
rates have seen an adjustment in their
real estate market the United States
recovered quite well already because of
and thanks to the 30-year mortgage
whereas Canada and Australia parts of
Europe haven't been so lucky in terms of
the real estate market but broadly many
asset markets aren't actually doing that
horribly given kind of what the markets
were pricing in last year which was The
Depression Paul volcker and a real
estate crash and it already serves
everything was being crowd priced in
last year whereas today we're not really
seeing that sort of pricing in
of such pain anymore hence our Nike
Swoosh recovery but this uh this this
Chinese deflation uh is is not only
something to pay attention to for weaker
growth on Headline GDP for China
something maybe that could end up being
a red flag for investments in China
uh but it contributes to anchoring a
global inflation uh and then ultimately
it probably puts less pressure on
commodity prices so that's something
else to consider so whether you're
investing in Chinese stocks or you're
investing in American stocks with
exposure to China
or you're betting on Commodities because
of China it's worth noting that the
present indicators whether it's uh
producer prices uh which uh which which
are not holding I mean consider these
for example okay consumer prices uh Rose
0.2 percent
uh which that report just came out uh
today and uh that was slightly higher
than the 0.1 percent we got in April but
the China's government isn't targeting
two percent they're actually targeting
three percent inflation and they got an
annual gain of 0.2 percent that's not a
month over month number an annual gain
of 0.2 percent
and the target's three percent so we
basically have no movement in consumer
prices for producer prices what you have
is a negative
4.6 reading year over year the year over
year numbers are well rip like
non-existent for inflation in China
there literally is no inflation in China
you're quite frankly facing deflation so
consider that uh when you're looking at
either a Chinese investment uh or or
United States Investments that are
associated with China yesterday for
example in the course member livestream
we were exploring Neo and so we did a
bit of a fundamental analysis on Neo Neo
was was an interesting one because you
know Neo's still in position of net
negative uh income which makes valuing
it certainly a lot more difficult but
beyond that
they're going to need to raise some
money soon we're convinced that there's
a there's a limit to how much money Neo
has and I would expect within the next
18 months you're going to see Neo
somehow raise money whether that's
through a bond offering or through a
stock offering however they're going to
have to raise some money so we'll see on
top of that it's worth noting or this
morning we realized that the average per
quarter gross profit for Neo is usually
186 million dollars and the average
operating expenses in 2022 are usually
around 753 million dollars well that
operating expense came in roughly in
line with the average per quarter
expense of 2022 here in q1
767 is broadly similar to what we saw in
2022 however we were looking for about
186 generally for gross profit on
average in 2022 that was only 23 million
dollars in q1 2023 which is like no
margin what happened now but that is
something to consider when it comes to
Neo and you know obviously Chinese
company uh and uh it looked to us like
based on our analysis which remember if
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what we found is Neo would probably have
to grow somewhere around 35
compounded annually uh or just 35
annually right and then that compounds
they would have to grow that for five
years at 35 just to break even but their
vehicle growth rate uh in in the number
of vehicles they're selling isn't
growing anywhere near 35
in may they delivered 6 155 vehicles uh
they delivered a 43 854 Vehicles year to
date in 2023 and that represented a 15.8
percent increase and the way I got to
this 35 annual compounded that they
would need is that they're operating
expenses are sitting at about three
billion dollars for the year uh maybe
you've got some one-time charges in
there so it's worth diving a little bit
deeper into that but if your Opex is
sitting somewhere around uh a 30 or
sorry three billion dollars which is
about double from
2021. uh much of that operating expense
increase
uh being made up of an increase in
actually both r d which more than
doubled and then SG a which probably
increased uh roughly looking at it here
about 60 so both of these numbers it's
not like it was just one of them both
these increased actions but anyway
so when we're looking at Neo we're like
wow okay well in order to get to um to
just cover three billion dollars in
operating expenses and in your last year
you had a gross profit of uh uh 745
million bucks these are dollars uh
you've got some some growth ahead of you
before you even get to a break even they
do have a gross profit margin worth
noting is just above 10 on gross profit
but that Opex really eats a lot of uh
what Neo's doing but again something to
consider when we're looking at Chinese
companies
where's the money going what kind of
transparency do we have of where the
money's going uh and in addition to that
now you've got a country that
potentially is facing deflation what is
that going to tell the consumer in China
which is not like it's uh you know carte
blanche great thing for uh every
investor because consider
less or more deflation in China could
potentially also indicate uh less buying
pressure for GPU chips or Tesla cars or
other cars like or or other AMD or uh
what should I say or other companies
with large exposure to China such as AMD
uh so do consider that there are a lot
of companies that have massive exposure
to China even apple is another one with
large exposure to China and what you can
do is you can go through any of the
companies that you're looking at or
considering investing in and look at
their annual reports see what percentage
of their revenues is coming from China
uh one stock that I've been interested
in but I had to pull the trigger and
we're on is uh is Starbucks partly
because during the pandemic what they
did is I feel like they did this sort of
stealthy growth approach to China while
everyone was worried about the Chinese
lockdown Starbucks is like let's double
how many stores we have in China and so
they literally doubled the amount of
sores that exist in China
and nobody seems to have noticed I
personally believe eventually people are
going to go oh man there's a lot of
growth coming from China but then it
makes you scratch your head will there
be if you're in potentially a deflating
environment and potentially one where
people are now Shell Shocked because of
what they went through with uh coveted
lockdowns and one where they're
potentially facing deflation maybe
that's not as a Surefire bet so these
are a lot of things to consider when it
comes to investing in China all of the
various different companies that are
associated with China uh and uh and
ultimately I I suppose I would just say
proceed with caution with China I will
say though just to give you a little bit
of a flip sided argument there are some
people who say all right Kevin
everything you said might be true
but now we're at a bottom Chinese stocks
are underperforming European stocks or
underperforming American stocks you know
what now is the time to buy the dip on
China
maybe maybe now is the time to buy the
dip on China I personally I can't get
away from just investing in America
because again I feel like I relate to
the American Consumer I can I I could I
feel like I could sit down
let's think about this all just like a
personal personal level for a moment I
feel as though I could sit down with any
American any anyone watching we could
sit down have a coffee uh you know what
whatever you want to make a drink
whatever it is hot uh who cares whatever
point is we could sit down and actually
have a reasonable discussion about
anything right really uh and uh it and
that could be an amical and productive
discussion I don't think I could do that
with every single person
in China mostly because I I don't
understand all of the various different
cultures I'm sure there are people in
China who I absolutely can sit down with
and have a reasonable productive
discussion but
I've I I don't even know I don't even
know what I don't know about China right
so I just stay away from markets that I
don't understand and I'm gonna stick
with the markets that I do understand
and that is my favorite the best in the
world the United States so and I really
believe that I I look I was born in
Germany but I don't even understand all
the
you know cultural things that go on in
Germany uh you know there's everyone's
different
so anyway uh long and short of that is
it's a lot harder in my opinion to to
really evaluate okay oh you know our our
Chinese consumers going to behave like
American consumers and if anything I
actually think they're more likely to
behave less like American consumers
where American consumers are more like
ah well you know if poop hits the fan
we'll get our stimi checks we'll get our
unemployment which the reality is I
think there's a very good chance
artificial intelligence will bring back
stimulus checks
eventually uh some form of like Ubi or
something to that effect
China doesn't work that way they they
offer corporate stimulus as opposed to
direct cash payments to individuals and
the savings rates of Chinese are
substantially higher than American
Saving rates in part because they have
to uh because the government isn't going
to bail them out uh now now we can
obviously argue about the merits of our
government and go down to political
rabbit hole but I'll save you from that
in this one so anyway that's my take on
China oh hopefully that's at least
somewhat useful but uh I I would I would
proceed with caution in China and if
you're still betting on these
inflationary arguments from China look
at some of the recent data because
probably missing something now I want
you to know this when it comes to AI
time is what's going to make you money
and if you can prove that value to an
employer you'll always be able to be
employed so this is another way of
making sure that you don't get replaced
but
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