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China’s Inflation Disaster & Nio Stock.

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why does the story keep coming up that

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that China is going to boost inflation

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again they've got they've got the

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opposite problem in China they're trying

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to stimulate and then

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to some extent their GDP is going to

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miss even the downwardly revised

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forecast that they had uh and uh the I

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think the thinking is that hey if Europe

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and America need to raise rates well

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then China needs to raise rates as well

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but China is really facing at least

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according to this fantastic Wall Street

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Journal piece that came out which I

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agree with because mostly we've been

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saying a lot of this uh for the past

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many months here and that China is

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actually facing a more likely risk of

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quite frankly deflation price is charged

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by Chinese factories tumbled in May at

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their steepest annual Pace in seven

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years and consumer prices barely moved

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the Wall Street Journal suggests that

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not only is this obviously bad for

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China's a five percent uh growth Target

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this year which is uh pounded by sort of

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their Miss on exports just a few days

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ago but ultimately if they end up

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getting into the cycle of essentially

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persistent deflation you could end up

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having an economy that falls victim to

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the downsides of deflation remember the

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downsides of deflation the downsides of

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deflation are more psychological than

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they are practical because from a

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practical point of view we should all

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want deflation right we should want

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prices to come down unfortunately what

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happens when prices come down that is

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prices for things that we need to buy is

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as a society we just delay the purchase

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of those things for example if we

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suspect that the prices of a car are

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going to keep coming down then we would

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eventually expect that to the extent we

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can we would just wait to buy the car

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but the problem is the more companies

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and businesses wait to invest in either

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vehicles or assets or whatever

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the less money circulates throughout the

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economy and then you actually end up

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with GDP shrinkage which is really bad

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this is why central Bankers along with

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obviously like monetizing the debt come

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on let's be real but this is why

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generally Central Bankers want to Target

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around a two percent inflation rate they

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want some inflation so that way there's

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this incentive to continue to invest and

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innovate and grow and so what we're

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seeing in China with these falling

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prices is uh Obviously good for Global

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inflation it's an anchor to Global

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inflation but it also is a sign that

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China is quite different from the rest

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of the world in terms of where it is

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economically much of Europe and the

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United States or Australia or Canada

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have seen pain from higher interest

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rates have seen an adjustment in their

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real estate market the United States

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recovered quite well already because of

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and thanks to the 30-year mortgage

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whereas Canada and Australia parts of

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Europe haven't been so lucky in terms of

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the real estate market but broadly many

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asset markets aren't actually doing that

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horribly given kind of what the markets

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were pricing in last year which was The

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Depression Paul volcker and a real

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estate crash and it already serves

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everything was being crowd priced in

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last year whereas today we're not really

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seeing that sort of pricing in

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of such pain anymore hence our Nike

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Swoosh recovery but this uh this this

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Chinese deflation uh is is not only

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something to pay attention to for weaker

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growth on Headline GDP for China

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something maybe that could end up being

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a red flag for investments in China

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uh but it contributes to anchoring a

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global inflation uh and then ultimately

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it probably puts less pressure on

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commodity prices so that's something

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else to consider so whether you're

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investing in Chinese stocks or you're

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investing in American stocks with

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exposure to China

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or you're betting on Commodities because

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of China it's worth noting that the

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present indicators whether it's uh

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producer prices uh which uh which which

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are not holding I mean consider these

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for example okay consumer prices uh Rose

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0.2 percent

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uh which that report just came out uh

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today and uh that was slightly higher

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than the 0.1 percent we got in April but

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the China's government isn't targeting

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two percent they're actually targeting

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three percent inflation and they got an

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annual gain of 0.2 percent that's not a

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month over month number an annual gain

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of 0.2 percent

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and the target's three percent so we

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basically have no movement in consumer

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prices for producer prices what you have

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is a negative

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4.6 reading year over year the year over

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year numbers are well rip like

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non-existent for inflation in China

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there literally is no inflation in China

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you're quite frankly facing deflation so

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consider that uh when you're looking at

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either a Chinese investment uh or or

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United States Investments that are

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associated with China yesterday for

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example in the course member livestream

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we were exploring Neo and so we did a

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bit of a fundamental analysis on Neo Neo

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was was an interesting one because you

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know Neo's still in position of net

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negative uh income which makes valuing

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it certainly a lot more difficult but

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beyond that

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they're going to need to raise some

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money soon we're convinced that there's

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a there's a limit to how much money Neo

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has and I would expect within the next

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18 months you're going to see Neo

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somehow raise money whether that's

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through a bond offering or through a

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stock offering however they're going to

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have to raise some money so we'll see on

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top of that it's worth noting or this

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morning we realized that the average per

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quarter gross profit for Neo is usually

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186 million dollars and the average

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operating expenses in 2022 are usually

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around 753 million dollars well that

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operating expense came in roughly in

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line with the average per quarter

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expense of 2022 here in q1

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767 is broadly similar to what we saw in

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2022 however we were looking for about

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186 generally for gross profit on

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average in 2022 that was only 23 million

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dollars in q1 2023 which is like no

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margin what happened now but that is

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something to consider when it comes to

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Neo and you know obviously Chinese

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company uh and uh it looked to us like

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based on our analysis which remember if

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what we found is Neo would probably have

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to grow somewhere around 35

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compounded annually uh or just 35

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annually right and then that compounds

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they would have to grow that for five

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years at 35 just to break even but their

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vehicle growth rate uh in in the number

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of vehicles they're selling isn't

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growing anywhere near 35

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in may they delivered 6 155 vehicles uh

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they delivered a 43 854 Vehicles year to

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date in 2023 and that represented a 15.8

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percent increase and the way I got to

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this 35 annual compounded that they

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would need is that they're operating

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expenses are sitting at about three

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billion dollars for the year uh maybe

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you've got some one-time charges in

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there so it's worth diving a little bit

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deeper into that but if your Opex is

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sitting somewhere around uh a 30 or

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sorry three billion dollars which is

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about double from

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2021. uh much of that operating expense

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increase

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uh being made up of an increase in

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actually both r d which more than

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doubled and then SG a which probably

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increased uh roughly looking at it here

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about 60 so both of these numbers it's

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not like it was just one of them both

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these increased actions but anyway

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so when we're looking at Neo we're like

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wow okay well in order to get to um to

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just cover three billion dollars in

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operating expenses and in your last year

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you had a gross profit of uh uh 745

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million bucks these are dollars uh

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you've got some some growth ahead of you

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before you even get to a break even they

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do have a gross profit margin worth

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noting is just above 10 on gross profit

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but that Opex really eats a lot of uh

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what Neo's doing but again something to

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consider when we're looking at Chinese

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companies

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where's the money going what kind of

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transparency do we have of where the

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money's going uh and in addition to that

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now you've got a country that

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potentially is facing deflation what is

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that going to tell the consumer in China

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which is not like it's uh you know carte

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blanche great thing for uh every

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investor because consider

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less or more deflation in China could

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potentially also indicate uh less buying

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pressure for GPU chips or Tesla cars or

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other cars like or or other AMD or uh

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what should I say or other companies

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with large exposure to China such as AMD

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uh so do consider that there are a lot

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of companies that have massive exposure

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to China even apple is another one with

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large exposure to China and what you can

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do is you can go through any of the

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companies that you're looking at or

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considering investing in and look at

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their annual reports see what percentage

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of their revenues is coming from China

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uh one stock that I've been interested

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in but I had to pull the trigger and

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we're on is uh is Starbucks partly

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because during the pandemic what they

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did is I feel like they did this sort of

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stealthy growth approach to China while

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everyone was worried about the Chinese

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lockdown Starbucks is like let's double

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how many stores we have in China and so

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they literally doubled the amount of

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sores that exist in China

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and nobody seems to have noticed I

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personally believe eventually people are

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going to go oh man there's a lot of

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growth coming from China but then it

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makes you scratch your head will there

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be if you're in potentially a deflating

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environment and potentially one where

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people are now Shell Shocked because of

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what they went through with uh coveted

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lockdowns and one where they're

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potentially facing deflation maybe

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that's not as a Surefire bet so these

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are a lot of things to consider when it

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comes to investing in China all of the

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various different companies that are

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associated with China uh and uh and

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ultimately I I suppose I would just say

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proceed with caution with China I will

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say though just to give you a little bit

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of a flip sided argument there are some

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people who say all right Kevin

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everything you said might be true

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but now we're at a bottom Chinese stocks

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are underperforming European stocks or

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underperforming American stocks you know

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what now is the time to buy the dip on

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China

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maybe maybe now is the time to buy the

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dip on China I personally I can't get

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away from just investing in America

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because again I feel like I relate to

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the American Consumer I can I I could I

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feel like I could sit down

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let's think about this all just like a

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personal personal level for a moment I

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feel as though I could sit down with any

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American any anyone watching we could

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sit down have a coffee uh you know what

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whatever you want to make a drink

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whatever it is hot uh who cares whatever

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point is we could sit down and actually

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have a reasonable discussion about

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anything right really uh and uh it and

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that could be an amical and productive

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discussion I don't think I could do that

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with every single person

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in China mostly because I I don't

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understand all of the various different

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cultures I'm sure there are people in

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China who I absolutely can sit down with

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and have a reasonable productive

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discussion but

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I've I I don't even know I don't even

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know what I don't know about China right

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so I just stay away from markets that I

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don't understand and I'm gonna stick

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with the markets that I do understand

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and that is my favorite the best in the

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world the United States so and I really

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believe that I I look I was born in

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Germany but I don't even understand all

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the

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you know cultural things that go on in

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Germany uh you know there's everyone's

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different

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so anyway uh long and short of that is

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it's a lot harder in my opinion to to

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really evaluate okay oh you know our our

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Chinese consumers going to behave like

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American consumers and if anything I

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actually think they're more likely to

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behave less like American consumers

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where American consumers are more like

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ah well you know if poop hits the fan

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we'll get our stimi checks we'll get our

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unemployment which the reality is I

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think there's a very good chance

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artificial intelligence will bring back

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stimulus checks

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eventually uh some form of like Ubi or

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something to that effect

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China doesn't work that way they they

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offer corporate stimulus as opposed to

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direct cash payments to individuals and

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the savings rates of Chinese are

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substantially higher than American

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Saving rates in part because they have

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to uh because the government isn't going

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to bail them out uh now now we can

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obviously argue about the merits of our

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government and go down to political

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rabbit hole but I'll save you from that

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in this one so anyway that's my take on

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China oh hopefully that's at least

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somewhat useful but uh I I would I would

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proceed with caution in China and if

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you're still betting on these

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inflationary arguments from China look

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at some of the recent data because

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probably missing something now I want

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you to know this when it comes to AI

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time is what's going to make you money

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and if you can prove that value to an

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employer you'll always be able to be

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employed so this is another way of

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making sure that you don't get replaced

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but

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