Tesla is Fighting its Own Death
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these findings suggest that there were
some certain scenarios where the car
might act in a way where the driver
couldn't take over fast enough to avoid
a crash or potentially break the law so
uh you know fixing this and the software
a lot easier than say having to bring it
into a car dealership like a Chevy would
do and have to change mechanical things
have to put in new equipment or
something like that so you know kind of
in short a little kind of a win for
Tesla because it doesn't have to turn
the system off it doesn't have to do any
mechanical changes but a black eye
because of the system's defaults
what what has Tesla said about the
defaults they agree with the
government's assessment of it
well they would disagree uh they pushed
back on the government that with the
government's findings but went forward
with the voluntary recall here it which
is often the case uh in these things
when the Nitsa is going to do this it's
either do a voluntary or it can become
much more messy down the road so you
know going back to Tesla traditionally
says that these systems are safer than
what the human can do uh is that's you
know maybe perhaps in debate sometimes
we don't understand where their data is
coming from but it gets to kind of the
core of these systems are they about
safety or are they about convenience the
criticism continues to be about Tesla
and other systems like it is that the
driver thinks the system can do more
than it is it is not fully self-driving
the robot is not in control the driver
needs to be in control needs to take
back that wheel needs to to be engaged
in the driving scenario and oftentimes
they get lulled into thinking the car is
doing more than it actually is yeah I
mean he's not he's not actually wrong
about that you have that same kind of
issue in aviation where you get lulled
into the idea that ah autonomy is taking
everything over or you don't have to
concentrate on anything the good news is
a lot of us using the autonomy
technology today realize in Tesla's uh
oh we're coming up on uh you know
potentially a dicey intersection or an
area where I want to pay attention a
little bit more and sort of activate
your your awareness and take over
earlier uh and and yeah look there's
absolutely this argument to be made that
if you rely too much on autonomy all of
a sudden your skills start waning and
you're not actually able to respond
appropriately in situations where it's
necessary to take over from autonomy but
what's wild and why Tesla's actually
getting all this crazy coverage right
now I mean they're still talking about
it right here on CNBC what's wild about
this is apparently there was this recall
that was issued and it's literally just
a software update but people are
freaking out over this there's so much
press going on over this and I think
it's remark workable in fact take a look
at this I got this text message
yesterday
it's Friday which means the flash sale
Ends Tonight check it out a link down
below it says hey you might have heard
this already but it's on channel 7 world
news that Tesla is recalling 360
000 Vehicles because of the self-driving
feature potentially leading to accidents
just a heads up and I wrote terrible
recall that requires a horribly
intensive automatic software update at
night
it's like it's true it's like look you
don't have to take the darn thing in
anymore when I had a Toyota Prius and I
had to take the sucker in for service
not a pain in the butt yeah take the car
in after you set an appointment because
now they want you to have an appointment
then you go drop it off and you have to
wait in line to talk to the person of
course when you go want to just drop off
the damn Keys you can't do that because
then they want to try to sell you
because that's how dealerships make
money they gotta sell you as much
freaking service that you don't need as
possible everything needs service every
time you go in there's something they
gotta sell you on there's always
something they have to sell you on and
and you're a loser is at least the
impression if you don't at least do some
of it because hey you know we've got
this whole list of things that are wrong
with your car but you know why don't we
just chip away at it and maybe do like a
quarter of it now and we'll save another
quarter for next time so that way you
don't feel like a loser you're still
spending probably a quarter or more than
you should have spent which should have
been zero right like the old school
dealership model is just trash it's so
annoying it's so inconvenient uh and
then you gotta pick the darn thing up
and then how are you gonna get back sure
you Uber but then it's a pain in the
butt because you gotta wait 20 minutes
for the Uber and you're wasting so much
time out of your day to bring a car to a
dealership and then go back and get it
or you're also wasting somebody else's
time if they're driving you to drop you
off which then it's even more ridiculous
because now you're wasting two people's
time
terrible terrible economic efficient on
inefficiency and so you have all of
these sort of like in my opinion I'm
just gonna call I'm gonna call it what
it probably is uh traditional Boomers
who don't know much about software or
have any care to learn uh about anything
Elon Musk touches and so the thesis is
oh man oh the headlines say recall there
we go we always knew the new stuff was
bad yeah just can't innovate can't can't
have good things no recalls that's right
yep Tesla getting screwed again it's
it's almost like people get happiness
out it's like I think it's like a a
schadenfoid a a psychology of of Tesla
it's like like the the old guards kind
of like
Elon losing again another recall for the
Teslas oh it's just like so stupid and
annoying uh it just drives me nuts but
ironically what's happening now is you
have this ironic Network effect where
the Tesla people are like you're the
idiot who has to take your car into
service whereas we just press update on
the car uh and in a weird way it
actually has this like in my opinion
positive marketing effect so even though
initially it's like it seems like all
this negative press I really think for
Tesla the argument of no press is bad
press is great I mean Tesla doesn't have
an advertising Department because they
don't need it as soon as there's a
software update everybody freaks out
calling it a recall and then what
happens
The Defenders of Tesla are like dude
it's a software update and then people
that
okay well I still hate Elon
it's like just so ridiculous uh but but
that's just what's out there meanwhile
the model Y is sold out for q1 it's the
first time these suckers have been sold
out uh you know into for about six
months which is fantastic now the model
y sold out they raised the price twice
over just the last uh six weeks here
after their initial price reductions and
now you also have Tesla having to
respond to allegations about them uh
firing people who uh uh you know wanted
to form a union in Buffalo New York now
let's be real and this is this is just
uh you know sort of the thesis here this
is like the quiet part that probably
shouldn't be spoken out loud let's be
real Tesla doesn't want unions okay most
most modern companies generally don't
want unions because ultimately you're
trying to automate away your labor
anyway okay like that's the long-term
goal right I mean think about it during
the pandemic did we really need 5 000
Math teachers teaching calculus on Zoom
or did we really need one math teacher
teaching calculus on zoom and then 499
sort of helpers to help grade papers or
whatever right like you put the best
teacher on Zoom they teach it and
everybody else you know sort of helps
and and tutors as necessary rather than
five thousand different people trying to
put together a zoom lecture plan right
so that is innovation that probably you
should be seeing in education but of
course that means a lot of people lose
their jobs and so that's bad because
people don't want to lose their jobs
because then they have to learn
something new and that's very difficult
to do especially when you're in a Groove
and you're in a habit and and I mean
it's hard to to change with the times
right and and I mean nobody wants to see
their job get replaced that's the
reality of it so unions help protect
labor from getting replaced I kind of
think about it like the Industrial
Revolution the luddites it's like oh
we've got uh we've got machines coming
in to sort our cotton hell no let's go
in and destroy the machines at night uh
and and so you've got luddites
destroying machines during the
Industrial Revolution because goodness
gracious what are we gonna do if we
don't have the manual necessity to to
actually separate the seeds from the
cotton why would why would we let
machines do that they're gonna bankrupt
us all and we'll be broke and we'll have
to learn to do something else of course
the goal is with Innovation you now have
the ability to get another job that
potentially pays you more money with
less time so for example if you're
making thirty thousand dollars a year
and then all of a sudden you turn around
and you realize wait a minute I could do
some quality assurance work in a tech
job and make twice as much money with
half as much time well now I got more
now I got more money and I got more time
to do something else right so innovation
in a necessary way kind of forces you
for a moment to go through a little bit
of hardship it but then you end up
better you end up working less and you
end up making more money but unions of
course and this isn't just straight a
bag on unions but let's be clear about
the incentive of a union the incentive
of a union is to survive and if the goal
of the Union is to survive then it
survives more when it has more union
members the last thing a union wants is
Less union members because then you have
less union dues and you have less power
but if union members are getting
replaced by robots at Tesla
then the Union's obviously going to be
pissed about the robots it's just like
the luddites during the Industrial
Revolution but then what happens when
the Tesla sort of sees that writing on
the wall or corporations see that
writing on the wall and they're like
well let's automate as quickly as
possible so that we can replace labor
before we can't replace labor anymore
because the unions have vesting and
mandatory employment and and non-fire
requirements uh you know pensions and
all these liabilities that essentially
make companies unable to innovate again
in the future I mean think about like
how do you how do you take a legacy
company with massive pension liabilities
like Ford or GM and turn them into an
efficient new Innovative company you
generally can't those companies have to
die out if they have unfunded pension
liabilities then the people end up
getting screwed anyway out of their
pensions I mean obviously their
insurance programs and things like that
in a place to sort of prevent the
defaulting on pensions because those
pension contracts are important but
ultimately it comes down to the the
company's guarantee because if the
company goes bankrupt you got big
problems but anyway long and short of it
is you have
a society where the the newest breed of
companies dare I say are relatively
anti-union and one of the reasons they
in my opinion are anti-union is because
they realize in order to stay Innovative
they have to be able to have Labor
flexibility in other words they have to
be able to kill the need for labor
because labor is uh I mean very
expensive let's just put it that way so
anyway these uh labelers in New York uh
were starting to work with a manager of
a Starbucks who helped organize the
Starbucks Union effort and that
Starbucks Union person essentially
motivated somewhere around 25 people
potentially more to put together a
letter and send it to Elon Musk
demanding that Tesla recognized their
right to form a union now employers have
a choice to recognize a union unless the
majority of you members of that company
uh more than 50 percent basically vote
for the union then the company is forced
to recognize the union so in the
meantime while a company is not forced
to recognize the Union what happens is
you end up getting this uh this this
place where a lot of companies don't
want to uh and so what ended up
happening is after roughly about 25
people happened to file a ladder saying
roses are red violets are blue unions
start with you which was also where in
the last time I pitched the fact that
today is February 17th with him there's
a coupon code expiring at 11 59 PM
actually it's a flash sale it's not a
coupon expiring tonight at 11 59 PM for
the programs on building your wealth or
the shadowing experience that's linked
down below but anyway uh after they sent
that within a day of sending that letter
on Valentine's Day 25 of them got fired
25 26 of them got fired now a day after
that which is last night Tesla responded
with in response to false allegations uh
and then so Tesla now is arguing there's
a false allegation that Tesla terminated
employees in response to new a new Union
campaign these are the facts behind the
event and let's just make it clear okay
Tesla is not going to come out and point
blank say yeah we don't want unions but
I think I've just made the case that
pretty much companies don't want Unions
that's that that's obvious that should
be very very obvious and so anyway Tesla
as sort of a cya because you kind of
have to do this what do they do you know
and of course I don't know all the
details so this is my opinion I could be
wrong but let's just be clear I mean
Tesla is talking about how they conduct
performance reviews and just
conveniently uh you know the the
conveniently four percent roughly four
percent wait four percent that's a
little bit more than I thought there
were about 650 labor oh no that is about
right yeah that's 26 employees okay
approximately four percent of the
employees on the autopilot labeling team
in Buffalo New York which by the way I
guess the minimum wage for that is like
19 bucks an hour and you're literally
just pushing a button like yes no yes no
like labeling what the aics is is not
you know it's not that difficult uh and
so I wish I made 19 an hour when I was
you know 18 years old or 16 years old
making smoothies of Jamba Juice or
folding clothes that Hollister that
people would just walk in and steal uh
at you know 16 and making seven dollars
an hour but whatever anyway so
approximately four percent of the
employees on the autopilot labeling team
in Buffalo were exited as a result of
this performance review cycle the
employees let go so as part of this
process received prior feedback on their
poor performance so it's kind of
interesting if that's true then it's
really convenient that basically the
people who are trying to unionize may
have also been the poor performers which
then it kind of makes you wonder are
poor performers people who want to
unionize or do people want to unionize
and Tesla's just saying they happen to
be performers it's kind of like a
chicken or egg problem and and I'm
curious to know what your opinion is so
leave me a comment on that but
uh Tesla makes the argument despite
feedback they did not demonstrate
sufficient Improvement and as a result
before we even knew about this Union uh
unionizing effort that was happening we
basically fired 26 people uh uh or or
warned them that hey their performance
wasn't up to par and then after the
union effort the timing just happened to
be very coincidental that we just
happened to fire everyone involved in
the effort right after the union effort
uh began so it really really convenient
for Tesla you know maybe maybe what a
company should do is just tell everyone
that their performance needs to step up
so that way if at any point they decide
to unionize you could just say well yeah
you're fired and we're not you're not
fired because you're forming you're
fired because we told you to get better
and you didn't get better yeah well you
tell everyone to get better I mean I
don't know right I'm just
look whatever it is I don't think I
think legal battles whatever legal
battles take years before you see a
union at Tesla it probably will be 2028
or or on uh and and by then you then
start scratching your head like okay are
we getting to a top of a growth cycle do
you potentially then spin off divisions
within Tesla to protect it from
unionization by spinning off like the
robot division from I you know I don't
know uh the the robo taxi division
whatever do you start spitting these
segments off to sort of insulate them
from unionization who knows there are
plenty of corporate tricks that happen
but uh yeah it's awfully convenient that
um that these folks happen to be exited
which is such a like a fascinating word
by the way like oh yeah we we don't fire
employees we exit them
uh anyway look
bottom line is generally uh yeah and
this is you know opinion here obviously
but there's plenty of research also
supporting this
but generally the impression is that
unionization hurts Innovation that
doesn't mean unions are bad obviously
it's important that employees are paid
appropriately for the value they're
providing I think where unionization
becomes problematic is when you end up
seeing uh disruptive unionization like
what you're seeing in the United Kingdom
where you have either teachers unions or
Pilot unions or whatever striking and
creating more Supply and chain
nightmares especially in Industries
where there's always already already
very nominal profit the airlines are
losing money hand over fast they're
highly indebted they're basically on the
brink of either mergers or collapse uh
because they they have a very hard time
actually surviving thanks to all of what
the labor costs in fact you have a lot
of Institutions today saying stay away
from high labor highly labor-intensive
businesses because well there's more
risk the more labor you have the more
risk there is and obviously then if you
can have Executives who can who can get
a lot done with minimal labor is is more
ideal uh but uh yeah it doesn't sound
like uh unionization and Innovation tend
to align very well and so I think for
the purposes of unions I think they
probably have to Rebrand their
reputation a little bit to make sure
that they can actually prove to
businesses hey look you know we actually
are pro-innovation like how do you
innovate and and transform unions from
not Innovative to Innovative right
that's probably something if I were you
know leading a union I'd be thinking
about it because I I don't think uh uh
the the common theme today is yeah
unions I I think that's kind of Gone by
the wayside mostly especially for people
sort of outside the system so uh quite
uh quite interesting
so uh
let's see Garrett Garrett hartel here
says unionization didn't hurt the
building of America a lot more of this
country used to be unionized yeah well I
I mean that that could be entirely
causation without correlation right just
because uh in the mid 19th century every
automaker that existed was unionized
doesn't necessarily mean that that
unionization was good for America
especially given that basically every
car company other than Ford every law
Legacy automaker other than Ford ended
up going bankrupt you know we could we
could just as easily make the argument
that unionization led to the bankruptcy
as as did not prevent the building of
America right so I I think uh I think
that's uh that's a difficult uh
difficult argument to make uh with
without uh you know clear clear
statistics I think this is interesting
Steve makes the argument a hundred
percent of poor performers want to
unionize uh to mooch the system poor
performers want to unionize says Alex
here uh I I mean there's there's always
the possibility of that at midnight King
email us at Kevin meet kevin.com we can
get you taken care of but anyway yeah I
mean look obviously there's there's no
uh there's no real way to I think make
the blanket argument and and be correct
that everyone who wants to be a union
sucks or everyone who wants to unionize
is great and Innovative right it's
obviously as with everything it's a mix
of both I think probably the the
argument that is often made is that look
if if you're an Innovative Technologies
and ultimately you're trying to replace
labor just by the nature of wanting to
innovate and minimize labor you already
stand in the face of what unions stand
for so unions stand for more labor and
businesses Stand For Less labor so no
matter which way you slice it Innovative
companies will always be looking for
ways to reduce labor and unions will
always be looking wait for ways to
increase labor so from a first
principles approach of the purposes is
of those two entities one is
diametrically opposed to the other they
will always stand in conflict with each
other because their mission is exactly
the opposite
that makes for a very challenging
environment and one that will
continuously be uh litigated forever so
I think really the that's probably the
only binary conclusion that you can make
where it's like yes absolutely unions
want more labor absolutely businesses
want less labor now the rest of that
well that's to be debated but either way
again the more Tesla sits in the news
the more Tesla ends up ironically
selling Vehicles so it's fascinating
just to see how Tesla has sort of
mastered the world of uh of advertising
without advertising so congratulations
Tesla sorry to
Charlie Monger
now there are also now some rumors going
around that uh Tesla is uh potentially
uh leaking the Cyber Truck Body in uh in
in this right here with Joey uh 2000
potentially showing this this Frame over
here of uh the side frame of a vehicle
I'm going to play that again right here
but these are some rumors circulating
so if we move to this next clip right
here this is what some people say would
be sort of wheel Bay one wheel Bay 2
cyber truck side body cyber truck frame
who knows we know that they've uh
started the process of manufacturing the
Cyber truck and we expect the Cyber
truck to actually be available uh for
its initial orders towards the end of
2023 and then more bulk orders in uh in
2024 there are a lot of rumors as well
as to what's to happen with Tesla
regarding the uh the March 1st investor
day a lot of folks believe that investor
day obviously is going to be about Elon
musk's Master Plan Three uh Master Plan
Three is highly rumored to potentially
include the announcement of a new
vehicle platform that could be Robo taxi
it could be steering wheel list maybe
it's an optional steering wheel uh you
know it could be some grandiose Vision
about what's to come in years down the
road
there are a lot of hopes for that I
don't think whatever we hear on investor
day is going to be something that
practically or meaningfully changes our
ability to buy anything from Tesla
anytime soon given that obviously we're
still substantially in the ramping phase
for the sexy Vehicles that's the S the
model 3 uh the X and the Y and then of
course we've got to get Cyber truck up
and going uh so it's probably still
going to be a while I'm personally a
little bit bearish on the end the event
mostly because I I don't like to get my
hopes up and that's not because of my
pessimist I think I'm a very optimistic
person but I suppose just in in history
uh you know whether it's battery day or
AI day
the information we end up learning tends
to be very nuanced and not very
applicable to a large investor base or
just sort of a large audience and tends
to be a little bit more uh Arcane
difficult to be understood by many right
and hopeful for the long-term future
which is fantastic and and those with
the interest in that are probably going
to love investor day but I think broadly
if if folks are betting on sort of some
sort of big run after investor day in
the stock because of what's announced on
yesterday it's not a bet I would make I
I wouldn't necessarily say that I would
go in short before because you just
never know but it's probably not a bet
that I would make just given the history
who knows maybe this time we'll be
surprised
[Laughter]
uh my boss thinks I'm stupid that I
invest in Tesla
and then uh real George here says mature
people just don't want things to change
well I I find that uh remember your your
average customer for Tesla is between 25
and 45 years old and it's statistically
more likely to be a dude I think that's
because they they really haven't come
out with sort of a mommy style vehicle
yet uh sure you could claim that the x
or y would work but
um but once yeah once you have two kids
and strollers you need a lot of space uh
but anyway uh yeah I do find that at
least anecdotally myself it seems that
uh any one of the older Generations
older than than the millennial
generation
so we're talking you know Gen X uh uh
you've got
um boomer generation and of course the
silent generation which they don't say
much but anyway the other two there you
generally seem to have a an aversion to
what Elon Musk is doing and I I believe
that a lot of that aversion to Elon Musk
is actually shaped by I hate to say it
because it sounds a little tinfoil
had-esque but by the mainstream media
because of the headlines that are so
negative towards Tesla that people and
and I I know this because I try to
bridge the gap a little bit
when I get my newspapers because I
actually physically get newspapers
Financial Times USA Today Wall Street
Journal New York Times the post is in
there you know whatever I get all these
it's very um
let's just say it's it's it's easy to
throw Elon Musk Tesla and negativity on
the front page and frequently makes the
front page and and I don't think there's
much critical thought that often goes on
beyond the media narrative which is not
an insult it's just sort of the way
things have been and it's unfortunate
definitely is unfortunate but uh so it
is
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