Binance CEO "CZ" Exposes Himself as a Fraud | Crypto Collapse.
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we want to be transparent we want to set
the golden standard for reliability
solidness in the space so would you be
able to handle it if somebody asked you
for 2.1 billion dollars back would that
be okay would you be able to still
withstand things
we're financially okay
including you have 2.1 billion dollars
to give away if somebody came to recla
to Claude that back you'd still be fine
we'll let the lawyers handle it I find
we are financially strong
CNBC just absolutely destroyed CZ from a
binance if you still had any trust left
for CZ it should be gone after this
interview it is so evasive and
disgusting and it follows a Bloomberg
article from November where we were told
that individuals who have tried to sue
binance.com have found that it's almost
impossible to sue them because the
binance platform is not owned by any
company or other legal entity it's owned
by a Litany of companies and it's
potentially just all owned by CZ but
nobody knows how to actually even sue
the right company or organization
because it's so arcanely orchestrated so
it's no surprise that his company has
operated out of the Cayman Islands and
that Bloomberg here suggests that maybe
he's avoiding even visiting the United
States because if he shows up to the
United States He fears he might be
arrested or a quote like this there are
other signs of cz's pivot to Convention
reality might not be entirely urgent the
day of the interview CZ said a reporter
could visit the new Dubai office they
had but after a flurry of emails calls
and texts during which assistants and PR
Consultants made an array of excuses a
binance representative said that oh in
fact the office was closed because of a
surge of covet cases which the reporters
found odd because CZ had made no
reference to the disease during the
interview nor had anyone else at the
company mentioned that covid was an
issue yet the previous day binance
arranged a separate interview with the
company's head of Middle Eastern
operations who showed up unmasked at a
crowded hotel lobby where he appeared to
be conducting in-person meetings in the
lobby rather than at any of their
offices but forget Bloomberg maybe
Bloomberg's wrong let's just hear
directly from the man himself this 2.1
billion dollars that Becky quick asks
for is a reference to 2.1 billion
dollars that they were received
potentially from FTX obviously now
bankrupt crypto exchange thanks to the
blatant fraud of Sam bankman freed
running out of liquidity at his trading
firm Alameda research and then deciding
to use customer assets instead so
obviously when CZ says yeah we got 2.1
billion dollars from FTX but we're not
exactly sure where that money is now or
we kind of forgot about it wasn't really
important to us even after ftt price
dropped over the last year we still had
500 million dollars worth of it uh 580
million dollars worth of it on the day
when we transferred from the address we
received it a year and a half ago we
never touched it we actually actually
kind of forgot about it it kind of makes
you wonder if FTX had terrible
accounting practices why doesn't CZ know
where the money is and do they actually
have that money after all they retweet
on Twitter that oh don't worry look we
have like 60 billion dollars in cold
wallets well why then or total debts
listed as n a and why are you defining
net worth as the same thing as an asset
net worth which is equity equals assets
minus debts but if you're refusing to
reveal the debts
then this is in this is a totally
blatant misdirection now you might be
thinking but Kevin maybe they don't have
any debts ah but that's not actually
what CZ says but thus far you haven't
disclosed your liabilities and I wonder
why that is and whether you will
yeah so we are working with other firms
to do the uh audit financials like
liabilities Etc okay so you have
liabilities you just don't want to tell
us what those liabilities are now what
could possibly help us reveal what kind
of assets and liabilities they actually
have
how about an audit what does CZ have to
say about an audit but artists don't
reveal every problem
about it or would reveal that CeCe if
you could get a big four auditor to say
that if you're saying that some of them
don't want to work with you that raises
questions too they don't want to work
with you because you don't have the
files and the data that would make them
feel comfortable signing off and and
giving that stamp of approval
actually many of them don't even know
how to audit crypto exchanges um they
don't they don't they don't really when
they so when they audit they are they're
very used to auditing a firm just take a
moment here to appreciate Becky Quick's
reaction and then we'll keep going any
of them don't even know how to audit
crypto exchanges um they don't they
don't they don't really when they so now
if only there were another crypto
exchange that was publicly listed on the
NASDAQ and regulated by the SEC
requiring audits which would mean there
was an auditing company that was
probably a big four auditing a company
you know like a Deloitte that that
existed if only there was such a company
that existed
coinbase says
coinbase has a big four
auditor
um I actually I I don't look at coinbase
we don't really look at it so though I
don't know they understand it well
enough is the auditor yeah coinbase
so they can figure they do have so much
experience so I want you to put together
the Web of Lies that we just saw now I
believe to be Web of Lies okay I I can't
know with certainty nobody really can
which is actually the scary part if you
have your money at binance right you
want certainty but let's try to put the
web together here so CZ says that if
they had a 2.1 billion dollar clawback
because of their investment from FTX
which means FTX had 2.1 bill because
they were a fraud there's a risk that
the money they sent to CZ could be
clawed back
his response is not yes we could handle
a 2.1 billion dollar clawback it's the
following would you be able to handle it
if somebody asked you for 2.1 billion
billion dollars back would that be okay
would you be able to still withstand
things
we're financially okay
including you have 2.1 billion dollars
to give away if somebody came to recla
to claw that back you'd still be fine
well we'll have a lawyer handling I find
we are financially strong
she's no surprise because he kind of
forgot about that money anyway we
actually actually kind of forgot about
it but wait a minute Kevin CZ says they
don't owe anybody money they don't owe
any person money we all run crypto
changes should hold user assets one to
one very simply binance does not owe
people money Venice does not have loans
from other companies from other funds
just we just don't have it you can ask
any Fund in this in the in the ecosystem
you can ask any VC we actually do also
do not have VC Investments so we don't
owe anybody any money and uh we also do
not have loans to other people that we
depend on for our next payroll so you
don't have loans to pay your next
payroll why are you even making that
example
anyway at least it sounds good right so
that sounds good you could have assets
backed one to one but remember you could
loophole that pretty easily because if
you have one Bitcoin in your account for
one Bitcoin you owe to a customer sure
that's one to one but if you've now
taken that and leveraged it then you
would have a large liability or maybe
you're using derivatives like options to
trade with that to try to make more
money in the background now CZ here says
they don't owe anyone money
but how does that reconcile with the
following that he says so we are working
with other firms to do the uh audit
financials like liabilities Etc so you
don't owe any body money but you have to
do liabilities catch up and you're
working with Auditors to do that
liabilities catch up but Auditors don't
know what they're doing even though a
big four like Deloitte has an auditor
that's able to audit their blockchains
and their Enterprise but for some reason
those companies don't want to work with
you it definitely led to the disclosure
that there had been money that was taken
but that disclosure raises lots of
questions about firms like yours have
you done the same has there ever been
co-mingled funds have you ever taken any
of the clients funds and done anything
with them and again why should we
believe you because Sam bankman freed
told everybody no that hasn't happened
and he tweeted a lot of the same stuff
that you've been tweeting in recent days
which I think gets back to this idea of
show me the money
yep so let's get back to show me the
money part so Calvin omitted the fact
that there's no records that's not a
problem to him totally dodged the
question about whether or not they use
customer money just starts talking about
someone else classic look I think
there's just a very simple way to sum
this all up and we'll use the words of
CZ himself to describe him I think he's
lying about about a bunch of stuff
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