The Great Fed Flippening JUST Happened
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there's potentially another flip-flop
happening at the Federal Reserve and it
has huge implications for you if you're
in the stock market now yesterday I
posted a video on a lake
and if you go back to that video and you
listen to what I said six minutes in
you'll find something very important I
suggest that within six minutes into the
video I suggest the Federal Reserve
might let us know that
they're going to be more impatient or
they're going to be more patient with
inflation because they don't want to
cause as much economic hardship to
employment in other words they don't
believe that they actually have to crush
employment to get inflation down well
when I woke up this morning and I read
this I just about uh freaked out because
here's an article in Bloomberg
that literally reiterates the maybe I
talked about yesterday and I'm
absolutely Blown Away listen to this
fed backs away from wage Focus
bolstering case for rate pause and I'm
like you've got to be kidding me the
very next day I'm not trying to Pat
myself on the back I'm just trying to
say like this this is obvious If the Fed
stops trying to crush employment
then the FED will not hike again this is
potentially highly incredible and and
almost certainly then if that is true
the end of the cycle so listen to this
Federal Reserve officials are rethinking
their view that wage gains are fueling
inflation a key intellectual shift of
flip-flop that bolsters the case for a
pause in their tightening campaign now
this is important they don't give this
context but there's something known as
the Phillips curve and it's basically to
say that when inflation is or sorry when
when unemployment the unemployment rate
is low so in other words a lot of people
are employed well inflation should be
high that's the idea of the Phillips
curve and the Phillips curve teaches you
that if inflation is high you must
increase unemployment to lower inflation
that's the point of the Phillips curve
this ability to sort of one up to
get the other one down that's the thesis
if you have too low of inflation then
you want to get to maximum employment
that is the the principle behind the
Federal Reserve uh in and their rate
hike thesis one of them at least
and so the Phillips curve has been
relatively broken for the last about 13
years because if you look at about 2013
uh well so maybe last 10 years 2013 to
to just past covet you've really found
an even until now you've really found
that unemployment could be very very low
without causing substantial inflation
and this has led to a lot of economists
wondering okay so is the Phillips curve
dead is it broken was was it never
actually accurate in the first place
and more recently uh you're finding well
it's probably going to be true again we
just needed an inflationary impetus to
prove that it was true but now
economists especially at the Federal
Reserve are scratching their head again
going but what if the Phillips curve was
never correct in the first place what if
we can actually have low unemployment
and then High inflation for a period and
then come back to low inflation this is
pretty incredible because listen to how
this continues until recently many
policy makers at the U.S Central Bank
maintained maintained that a the road to
lower inflation ran through the job
market the idea was that because labor
costs make up a substantial portion of
the cost of providing Services an area
where price pressures have especially
been persistent or been especially
persistent workers would need to feel
some pain and so this is another very
common argument especially when we talk
about core inflation and services
inflation so you're more Super core
inflation with your more Super core
inflation what you're actually saying is
hey look super core is really focused on
Services services and stripping out a
lot of the goods the volatile Parts like
some of the auto sales the housing
sector stripping out the uh the energy
inflation figures we take all that out
and what we're left with are the things
that we really spend money on that
require labor which are going to be
things like haircuts dentists CPAs
Medical Care Services doctor Services
Attorney Services funeral services right
these are all relatively labor intensive
and so what you find is if you have
super low unemployment there's this
thesis that okay well that's going to
drive inflation up right because people
feel like they can just switch jobs and
get higher pay and that has been true
for a very long period of time
especially since there have been so many
available jobs and the argument has been
that's clearly what's driving inflation
but now economists are somewhat
flip-flopping and they're suggesting no
maybe maybe that's actually not the case
in fact the article goes on to say new
research and commentary from officials
and economists especially at the FED
suggest a link between the link between
wages and prices may not be so direct
and it's arriving just as the FED is
nearing the end of its historic hiking
cycle if the link between wages and
inflation isn't as strong as policy
makers believe then you do run the risk
of solving the softening the labor
market without seeing much progress on
inflation now yesterday I suggested that
we might end up having a Federal Reserve
that says look we don't necessarily need
to end up causing unemployment and that
is what I think so incredible is this
idea that if the FED comes out you know
in two days and says we're okay keeping
people employed and not throwing people
out of their jobs and at the same time
we can be patient with getting inflation
down then we have a massive Game Changer
ahead because markets are not pricing in
the FED being unwilling to let
employment or unemployment rise in other
words markets were pricing in that the
FED is going to cause unemployment
That's What markets are pricing in and
that is the basis of the bear thesis
because the Bears believe once we start
causing unemployment we're going to have
an earnings recession but wait a minute
if the FED changes the script and says
wait no we don't actually need to cause
unemployment first of all the Bears are
going to lose their sh-19
because we're going to realize oh my
gosh
the whole narrative that we've been told
which is the fed's going to cause
unemployment will end up being false
that's remarkable and it's especially
remarkable because of the following so I
was debating this bear and then we'll
keep going with this piece here I was
debating this bear just the other day
and uh it was well I guess I shouldn't
oops that's the other thing I guess I
shouldn't necessarily call it a debate I
would call it more of uh me asking some
pointed questions we'll put it that way
uh the reason I ask these pointed
questions is because uh this person has
a bearish tilt I think they're very
educated I think they're very smart and
they have very good arguments but I do I
think they very clearly have a bearish
tilt uh and that's okay so so they make
this argument here lots of comments
about bears being dead lately I think
what people are forgetting is something
broke in the system the regional banking
system fed forced to inject liquidity
via the bank term funding facility uh
and uh and markets bottoms since then
and have been higher since you know the
end of last year now what's interesting
is markets are higher because of the
wealth effect or driving the wealth
effect higher rather which you'd think
would reignite another round of
inflation there have been slight cracks
in the job markets and a sign that the
economy is slowing but people's assets
are up so people have more money to
spend and overall the job market has
been relatively resilient so basically
buried into this argument is is this
idea that hey look you need to cause
unemployment because the jobs Market has
been resilient and people's wealth is
going too high and that's going to cause
inflation now my personal counter to
that which is sort of more of a tangent
to where I want to get to my argument to
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argument here is the the thought that if
we don't cause wage loss or sort of job
loss then people's wealth will be too
high and will cause inflation the
counter to this is well look at 2012
really to 2020. we didn't cause
inflation solely because people's wealth
went up right so there's not a direct
link between I would say the stock
market necessarily always driving people
spending up and causing inflation the
wealth effect has a larger effect on
consumer spending when it comes to real
estate prices but even then
can if our economy can absorb that
additional spending that is because
Supply is becoming more efficient or
becoming more productive as workers and
we don't necessarily cause that
inflation so now what I think is
interesting is actually I'm not trying
to Pat myself in the back here but I end
up I end up replying with hey so to
clarify you're basically saying the wage
effect is going to lead to higher uh
higher spending uh and therefore a
higher propensity of businesses to raise
prices right and so uh the response here
is without Demand Being crushed
inflation will remain sticky and
elevated the wealth effect is driving
assets higher and that keeps the
stickiness going and so the stakiness
argument is probably at this moment one
of the most powerful arguments the Bears
have which is that as long as inflation
remains sticky the fed's gonna have to
have to act harder and raise rates more
now I dispute that because I believe the
Federal Reserve does not actually have
to raise rates more I believe the FED
could actually say look we're happy with
rates where they are and what we'll do
is we'll just we'll just wait for that
stickiness to go away unfortunately only
for really the Bears if if the FED just
Waits For That stickiness to go away
well then what you end up with is a
situation where patience prevails and if
patience prevails that sticky inflation
will probably Trend away uh without
crushing markets or employment but my
favorite response here was actually
where's my chart I had a little chart
that I replied with oh maybe it wasn't
actually in this reply oh here it is
okay uh so I wrote and services
inflation is still sticky that was sort
of my I was summarizing his argument
pre-summarizing his argument and uh and
so then I asked him I go you know how
much fed patients do you think markets
are pricing in right now because take a
look at this chart this chart here shows
that U.S wage growth continues to soften
but what I really want you to pay
attention to when we look at this chart
when we blow this chart up that I posted
on Twitter follow me on Twitter by the
way at realme Kevin uh when you look at
this chart closely what you'll actually
find is that it peaked it right at the
beginning of where that 2022 number
starts so Jan January of 2022. well
inflation didn't Peak until six months
later which suggests that if there is a
link between wage growth and inflation
what will actually end up seeing is a
six-month delay and if you look at this
chart you can see we've had the largest
declines most recently in wages which
somewhat suggests that if the largest
declines in inflation have been res or
in wages have been recent then the
largest declines in inflation are yet to
come
so this really coincides potentially
with this flip from the Federal Reserve
on hey you know what we're going to be
more patient we're not going to force
a job loss because why would we cause
job loss if we don't have to if we could
just let the Dynamics of basically
inflation prove itself to end up being
transitory by being patient now don't
get me wrong when I say that there are a
lot of people say oh but Kevin they were
wrong the last time they were that is
correct but that doesn't mean they have
to be wrong twice in a row now there's a
chance of that of course where jaded
against the FED at this point remember
last time they were still printing money
in March of 2022 when inflation was six
percent that was stupid my
seven-year-old knows you don't still
print money when inflation is six
percent
but that's what happened anyway so uh so
looking forward when you overlay and
this is an interesting chart as well
when you overlay what's actually
happening with inflation
and you overlay that with what's
happening with wage growth you could see
this a little bit more clearly so I'm
going to throw this on screen here and
that would be uh well hopefully it
actually ends up appearing so I'm having
a little bit of an issue getting getting
it up at the moment hold on a sec it's
supposed to be there but it's not
okay I will plug that in again but
basically it just overlays inflation
coming down with uh wage growth coming
down and uh the argument is that okay
well if both are slowly trending down
then maybe we don't need to raise rates
more this article continues and also
suggests that the prospect of oh here it
is I finally got it to show up oh how
interesting it's um
it's presentation mode is a little funky
but you know what
um
that could end up being okay so we'll
just go with it I think we'll just go
with it yeah it's just showing the whole
presentation mode which is usually it's
cleaner and just shows the picture but
whatever so anyway so here you have that
U.S wage growth inflation slowly
moderating and we want this moderation
to continue here on the white line
You'll see U.S average hourly earnings
right here and we can see we've notched
the lowest level here at the lowest
advance of wage gains in the last 12
months so we could see we're really
seeing this moderation happening uh slow
slowest advance in nearly two years
actually look at that nearly two years
you have the slowest advance in wages
here and then the blue line is inflation
and you're actually what you've seen is
you've seen this decoupling right so you
see this inflation uh right here this
blue line and you see this wage growth
wage growth actually falling and
decoupling away from inflation uh that's
actually quite remarkable because again
it's reiterating this idea of wait a
minute maybe wages aren't what's
actually driving inflation maybe this
really is a supply or was a supply chain
issue uh anywho so that's a pretty big
charm but then there's this idea that
okay well you know uh what about you
know the banking crisis or how is this
going to affect jobs in general and this
article goes on to say that uh initially
while we thought really cooling the
labor market was important this article
points out that in just the last cycle
in the last of in the May meeting Jerome
Powell in his press conference said the
following quote I do not think that
wages are the principal driver of
inflation I think wages and prices tend
to move together and it's very hard to
say what's causing what Powell's remarks
alluded to a crucial question in the
emerging wages versus prices debate or
wages a large driver of inflation or is
it more likely to be the other way
around is inflation a driver of wages
and this is fascinating because it goes
back to the argument of the wage price
spiral the thesis used to be that if
wages go up people will be able to spend
more money because they can spend more
money businesses uh can end up demanding
more money and then wages go up again
because now because businesses demand
more money hence there's more inflation
you end up getting employees going well
too that I can't survive I need to I
need I need more pay maybe that argument
is actually entirely flawed maybe what's
more likely to be true is
hey uh a lot of people have more money
and they're buying our crap a lot more
and business is doing really well and we
actually have supply chain shortages
leading to price increases but that's
leading to profits rising at businesses
he uh how about letting the employees
share in some of those wage gains
employees get wage gains then the supply
chain shortages go away and profits stop
growing as wildly and what happens oh
wow maybe wage growth plummets so maybe
wages don't actually drive the prices
businesses are setting maybe it's really
just demand okay interesting so anyway a
new research from within the FED system
also supports this thesis a statistical
analysis suggests
faster wage growth has contributed quote
only minimally to faster inflation in
recent years according to a column by
the San Francisco fed
the columnist noted that businesses can
absorb those costs via lower profit
margin or using automation this is when
wages go up uh businesses can basically
absorb those with more productivity or
why that whatever rather rather than
solely uh continuing to raise wages
before the pandemic
often groups often referred to pay bumps
as basically the start of inflation but
we've really not seen that inflation uh
let's see here we also oh this was a
good chart as well then they go into
this chart on small businesses and uh
wage gains there we go I fixed the iPad
in the meantime take a look at this
fewer small businesses plan to boost pay
sheriffs companies actually raising
wages remains elevated so in other words
you have the blue line indicating net
percentage of small businesses raising
wages uh or sorry that's the white line
and then the blue line is net percentage
of business uh of businesses planning to
raise wages in the next three months so
you have this differential of basically
hey have you raised wages versus are you
going to raise wages now I'd really like
to see uh Bloomberg or somebody do is I
would like to see this chart
for companies like uh Pepsi and uh
Kimberly Clark and Procter and Gamble
and basically your Consumer Staples
where they keep bragging about having
raised prices but I actually think the
chart here is very much the same where
you have a lot of businesses who have
just raised prices or year over year
have raised prices but the number of
businesses planning to raise wages going
forward or companies planning to raise
raise prices going forward is much lower
than those who have so I'd actually
think this is quite a fascinating chart
because it really shows you that
difference additional additionally they
have some quotes in here about how
there's this mismatch between mapping
inflation and wages and I think that
really just goes to reiterate some of
the things that we've just talked about
but I want to talk about some of the
implications of of what this Federal
Reserve policy shift could mean and
specifically how we might identify it in
the fomc conference so first of all if
the Federal Reserve suggests that yes
indeed we are willing to let uh the
unemployment rate stay low because we
don't believe that the unemployment rate
causes inflation then what the FED is
really doing is they are telling you hey
everyone
we're not going to force a recession
in fact we think that inflation can
slowly go away without causing
joblessness
and your songs are going to go up
that I think is in the most clear
English what this fed flip-flop could
mean now I understand there are these
traditional arguments uh for example
somebody who takes this argument very
clearly is actually somebody I met on a
playground which sounds very odd uh but
but chamoth has this sort of
traditionalist argument of we need to
see the Federal Reserve absorb liquidity
we need to see the the Federal Reserve
continue with their quantitative
tightening and basically all of that
money that was injected into the the
system needs to be sucked out and that
sucking out is going to drive markets
lower you know trimath has been a very
big proponent of sort of not being in
the market not being exposed to a
quantitative tightening regime because
we don't know the outcome of
quantitative tightening uh and this is a
very fair argument because technically
he should be correct
but he might not be correct because when
we look at the first sort of real
drawdown of uh of refilling the treasury
general account for example last week we
look at this first real liquidity
drawdown what ended up happening well
what ended up happening was and again
I'm not trying to Pat myself on the back
it was just a very clear prediction what
ended up happening was what we talked
about
the reverse repo facility saw its
balance go down and we saw the treasury
general account go up in other words
some of this quantitative tightening
that everybody is afraid of is really
being buffered by the uh the repo
facility now so what is the repo
facility and like you know explain it to
me like I'm five basically when banks
have extra money bags sitting around
they can put those money bags at a
special place and we call that
the repo facility and the amount of
money bags sitting there is roughly in
the amount of uh two trillion dollars
which is pretty remarkable because it's
a lot of money and we just saw reverse
repos drop about uh
uh let's see here I'm trying to pull up
a chart of reverse repos if I can but we
we just saw the the reverse repo
facility drop about 106 billion dollars
as the TGA the treasury general account
was being filled up and it's not a
surprise because you can actually make
more money buying six month t-bills
right now that you can make in the
reverse repo facility uh and so what's
great about this is is really another
way of saying that the Federal Reserve
can uh
can allow this tightening to occur and
all we're really doing is removing some
of the buffer that banks have we're not
necessarily taking that away from people
this is phenomenal so really you're in
this I hate to say it but like
potentially giddy scary Goldilocks
environment where we don't cause massive
unemployment we therefore don't cause a
recession or if it is a recession it's
very nominal
quantitative tightening doesn't actually
hurt us because the reverse repo
facility buffers us once the reverse
repo facility draws down to zero which
will take a very long period of time and
we consider even if you're you're
tightening to the tune of a 100 which
you're not you're kite into the tune of
about 80 billion dollars a month but
let's consider along with treasury
borrowings it's 100 billion dollars a
month it would take you 20 months to
draw down the whole repo facility 20
months of drawdown is is basically just
over a year and a half a year and a half
from now will be in 2025. the economy
could be so beyond a recession that any
of the actual impacts of tightening
might not matter or at all at that point
at that point it's like sure go ahead
and tighten don't worry the party's
still going so again I'm not trying to
come across as like this this Perma Bowl
I really am trying to study the Bears as
much as possible and I'm trying to
understand what you know what what
everything is happening in the economy
and it's very difficult to put it all
together but when you start putting the
pieces of the puzzle together you go wow
If the Fed on Wednesday
reiterates their shift away from causing
unemployment first of all that'll be
very politically popular and you're
going to get a lot of uh people alleging
that Janet Yellen and Joe Biden gave the
uh you know Mr J Powell a little phone
call and they're going to put their tin
foil hats on and they're going to make
the argument that this is all
politically motivated to ensure that
Donald Trump can't be elected you know
that's that's the argument that's going
to be made Trump by the way goes to
court tomorrow in Miami at 3 P.M but
anyway aside from all that it's it's
interesting because it seems like the
the folks peddling the bear narrative or
grasping at straws and I'm not
suggesting there won't be a Black Swan
but let me just put it this way I don't
think right now other than the inverted
yield curve there's so much terribly
scary and this flip from the FED really
reiterates that potential and it's kind
of mind-blowing to me uh kind of
mind-blowing so I'm I'm I want to be as
I say the cautious Optimist but the more
studying we do and I think together the
more we we discuss this the more we
start realizing the FED is not trying to
destroy this economy and that is going
to be statistically very very good
for the stock market
which is also quite strange because
it doesn't feel like we should be
hitting you know all-time highs over the
last year I guess that's that's one year
high so it's on all-time Highs but soon
enough we will probably surpass November
of 2021
and uh I think people are going to lose
their mind if the stock market surpasses
November of 2021 and goes back to sort
of this euphoric area era uh without
some kind of recession first uh but uh
you know what
I'm here for it
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