Cathie Wood’s Update on the Market Crash | Details.
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hey everyone meet kevin here kathy wood
just provided some new insights into
what her opinion is of the market and i
thought hey you know what why not add a
little bit of insight on top of her
insight
because well it's always good to have
more insight right and if i say
insight one more time i think we're
gonna have to start a challenge where
you take a shot every time i say insight
okay let's get into the insight so we're
very excited
she says about the opportunities of the
last few weeks
and i have to say of all the
paper-handing sissies that exist out
there like mr
chamspock who decided to block me on
uh yes thank you kathy for breathing
some life
into the wonderful opportunities that we
have presented
to us there are so many wonderful
opportunities and to keep buying at
times like these
actually is the reason why you can
generate wonderful returns
by holding through these times and
investing
kathy woods says her goal is to return
15
compounded over the patented over the
next five years to essentially double
her money she might end up doubling her
money over the next
year because she is diamond handing and
buying
high quality high conviction stocks
during a time
when there was a lot of fear and as
kathy woods says this is a gift to
anyone
averaging in very well so what does
kathy wood
specifically recommend that we invest in
well of course transformative innovation
she believes this is where we will see
exponential growth for example in evs
she expects ev sales to compound at 82
annually over the next five years which
that is
almost a doubling every single year over
the next five years is what kathy wood's
expectation is
going forward she says look one of the
issues that we have
in the traditional investing model right
now
is that most analysts at maybe um by
side
institutions are too reliant on old
school models
too reliant on old school let's look at
the price to book ratio let's look to
at the price to earnings ratio and if it
doesn't line up with
our traditional measures of value we're
not interested and we'll just
go buy some att stock because we'll get
a nice seven percent dividend over there
kathy wood is right kathy wood realizes
that a vast majority of wall street has
no freaking clue how to value
a company like tesla or in her opinion a
company like a roku
or even a square how do you value the
fact
that jack dorsey is selling his first
tweet
from 2006 as an nft
and what if this is just the door opener
to jack dorsey over who runs obviously
not only twitter and
found twitter but also helped not only
not only run square but help found
square and cash app how do we value the
fact that this could
be the beginning of cash app offering
nfts
and or or twitter now selling tweet
nfts as a service what if you integrate
nft purchasing
into the freaking platform i mean the
endless
possibility of these innovative
companies is the reason why kathy wood
is investing in these
and is the reason why when times are bad
and times are
red and painful kathy wood has
essentially become groomed to say
no no these are the times to buy in fact
that is actually
how kathy became popular in the first
place kathy bought
all of the under valued under
appreciated high-growth names
like the teslas in 2016 17 and 18 when
it was hard
when it was unpopular when she was hated
for doing it
and of course now kathy wood comes
across as the hero
after markets are very very green for a
few years
but the real effort was made when nobody
wanted
to be on her side and nobody wanted to
buy during the red
because people would rather uh no i'm
gonna re-evaluate my options i'm just
gonna i'm just gonna sell
i'll just sell out a virgin galactic not
to mention any names i'll just sell out
a virgin galactic
i'll go re-evaluate my opportunities
because it's been a tough week
anyway kathy wood goes on to say that
she discloses her holdings every day as
an actively traded etf because there are
very few actively traded etfs
she's right about this and that's part
of the rules of the game
but she does something special and also
publishes her research
and by publishing her research she
actually believes look we put our
research out there for criticism and
commentary
and that is how we are able to sort
through the fud
the fear uncertainty and doubt by seeing
what
society thinks we can help adjust sort
of our research and our formulas and our
expectations for companies
and see okay is there sort of a black
hole in our research so in a crazy way
by kathy wood putting her research out
she's actually improving the performance
of her fund
just by being open to commentary now i
have to say it is weird though that
their youtube channel doesn't allow
comments but hey we can still get
insights from what it is that she says
and obviously twitter is still available
as an opportunity to interact uh with
archives
but anyway another issue that kathy what
talks about in her latest
talk is how analysts are really stuck
to comparing themselves to what the
index funds are doing what's the s p 500
doing as long as we can beat the s p 500
we're good
kathy wood doesn't care about the
indices kathy wood isn't fighting to try
to be right
for a year or 18 months or two years
her goal is 20 years from now to be able
to look back and go
wow look we did invest where technology
is right where technology
ended up happening and we saw that
coming and we invested at the early
phase
of the s curve and this is something
that i thought was actually really
powerful
in the last discussion that she had and
she says hey look here's the thing
when it comes to investing in
transformative industries and you're
investing in
an early part of the s curve realize
that once you see 10 15
20 growth that is when you are
investing at the early part of the s
curve
and well usually when we hear that
unless we're super familiar with it
it can be a little confusing so why
don't i just quickly pull up the ipad
here and let's just draw what she means
so what kathy wood is talking about is
when you invest
early on and you start getting that 20
percent growth that 10
growth and you're starting to see that
compounding growth
that could just be the beginning of what
it will eventually
be this exponential growth and then this
essing right
so this is something that i've actually
mentioned personally on this channel
about tesla before is that i personally
think
tesla is very early on this exponential
growth curve that that growth is still
ahead
and today short of saying that about
tesla
kathy essentially gave us this insight
that the industry she's investing in
right now especially the ev market
she still thinks is early in the
exponential curve
you know we look at tesla stock and
we're like come on it went from
you know 2 000 to essentially or 200 to
2000 that's 10x
then split uh a 5x or divided by 5
right in the stock split and then went
back to 900 like how could you not sell
and take profits on a tesla what's
because why would you sell
out of something that you were still so
early in on the s curve
we're just beginning the transformation
kathy woods says this is this whole
process
of building wealth with these
transformative companies gosh the
transformation is just beginning
with this kathy woods says golly how
could you not
invest in these transformative
industries why would you go invest
into companies that are dying into
companies who are not
transforming and adapting why would you
invest
and i'm filling these names and she
didn't mention these right but
essentially kathy was saying
why would you go invest into traditional
let's say
automakers like a ford why would you
invest into something uh
like a movie theater why would you
invest in retail and this is her words
okay look i'm all for
diamond handing on amc but these are her
opinions she's why would you invest in
these
potentially dying industries she says
look you think the retail
it can't get any worse for retail after
going through what happened with coven
she essentially laughs at that idea and
says you haven't even seen the start of
it yet
the fact that we've only transitioned to
about 20 percent of sales online sure we
4x the amount of growth
in online thanks to covit but the fact
that we're still only 20
of sales being online online has a whole
lot of disruption ahead of it
she didn't mention names here but
obviously we can fill in we know that
is good for the apple the etsy the
wayfarer
the amazon we know that's good for these
platforms she invests in square we know
that's also good for square
because what does square do it helps
move businesses online
with their omnichannel distribution
network or not just their distribution
network but their distribution platform
for getting channels to have the same
inventory management system
offline as they do online so it becomes
much easier to scale
online and get retail online finally
obviously shopify does a lot of this as
well some who already have stores prefer
square and the transition for uh going
from store to online or having both
with square but either way both great
companies
kathy wood makes it very clear that if
you're investing in
arc funds you're getting innovation
and transformation you're not getting
the stuff
that might be sexy for a brief period of
time
like oh yeah there's a rotation into
value you're getting something that will
go through periods of i don't want to
invest in tesla right now it seems too
overvalued
you're going to go through those periods
but you're investing something that in
10 years from now
you can look back and say hmm yeah got
in that s curve early
just like kathy said i have to agree
with everything she's outlined
now i don't necessarily agree with every
single stock pick that kathy wood makes
it's one of the reasons i personally
don't invest in
arc but i could never say anything bad
about what kathy's doing because what
she's doing is
exactly what i believe i think it's
great and i'm not saying i'm copying her
she's copying me
we can all have our own opinion about
this and pick different stocks and
different allocations
hey you want to copy what kathy wood
does with your own tweaks or what i do
with your own tweaks
gee go to like m1 finance go to
medkevin.com m1
sign up for m1 finance you can make your
own pie your own sort of
little mini etf if you will and and do
it yourself
it's there are so many options for you
to invest
in sort of a pie or or you know a
portfolio of stocks yourself in an
automated way but what else does kathy
tell us well
she tells us look there is a lot of
fear uncertainty and doubt regarding
evaluations right now
but when it comes to asking if we're in
a bubble kathy woods says
absolutely not she doesn't believe that
we're in a bubble
she thinks bubbles are actually
backwards looking
that all we're really doing is or what
some people are doing is they're saying
well tech and ev must be in a bubble
because the prices are so high
and look at the run-up we saw before the
dot-com era well that was a bubble so
why isn't this
a bubble she says this is the problem
with looking backwards
is when you look backwards all you see
is a chart going up
and assume that that means it must be a
bubble when kathy wood says look the dot
com era was early
25 years too soon but we are now in
prime
time the plants she says are now
flourishing
the plants that were planted then the
seeds then are now flourishing
and then now is the time where we take
technology into reality and
into prime time of making attendees
basically
we're at that that s curve phase of just
beginning and this is
really really good news for disruptive
innovation
when kathy talks about the fed she talks
about how look
we're going to see that cpi bump to
three to four percent that temporary
base effect
interest or you know inflation data that
we've been talking about on this channel
we're going to see that
but it's going to be temporary now
what's interesting is
kathy wood still maintains that she
thinks there's a good chance the federal
reserve could raise
interest rates sooner than the fed
believes
but kathy wood believes that in the long
term we're not going to see
hyperinflation
we're not going to see anything higher
than maybe a four percent interest rate
in the future even that personally i
think is pretty high i think the fed's
likely to stay around
uh you know fed discount rate of maybe
two and a half percent we can differ
there
but the reason she gives for inflation
being temporary is fascinating
and she's talked about this before but
it's worth reiterating it's worth noting
that
she believes there are two types of
deflation one
is deflation that comes from technology
hey the easier it becomes to manufacture
iphones the cheaper iphones can become
and better technology somebody can get
in their hands for the same
cost of dollars that they spend you know
five hundred dollars spent on an iphone
10 years ago
gets you way crappier technology than
five hundred dollars spent on an iphone
today that is a form of deflation but
there's also and that's a good form of
deflation because we get better stuff
for less
but she also reiterates that there's a
bad form of deflation and that's when
you get legacy companies like ford
having to cut prices in the future
because
they fail to innovate they failed to
keep up with the disruptive
curves that we are seeing today and she
thinks there's going to be a lot of
confusion
she thinks one of the reasons we see
such low earnings multiples
and some of the legacy companies whether
they're retail
or companies that just aren't innovating
is because there's confusion
she thinks a lot of people look at a
stock and say oh well tesla must be
overvalued
because the price to earnings ratio is
so high and oh
another company must be a good deal
because the price to earnings ratio is
so low
and she says this is going to lead to a
crisis essentially
we're going to see bankruptcies at some
of the
original the og companies potentially
the fords
the gm the movie theaters of the retail
and all of these high valuations that we
look at now it's like oh my gosh you
know 200 300 p e ratio
that in the future might have a 50 times
earnings multiple
but they'll actually be printing money
because they are on the right side of
change
now kathy does briefly talk about how in
her opinion stimulus passing is going to
lead to
higher taxes in either the form of
higher inflation or future taxes which
is something that joe biden is
potentially more likely to do she
says but ultimately she challenges
investors
are you on the right side of change are
you on the right side
of history now what i want to do is just
briefly pull up
m1 finance and just look at some of my
mo more
high conviction stocks and see are these
in my opinion
obviously i'm opining about my own
choices here on the right side of change
and so for example my top 10 are stocks
like
etsy tesla enface expi peloton pinterest
lemonade neo redfin
and cciv lucid personally to me
none of these are legacy companies none
of these
in my opinion are failing to innovate
some of them might be trading at rich
valuations and even i personally i bag
on peloton and lemonade for being too
expensive right now
i bag on etsy for being too expensive
when it's over 225
i get upset when neo is in the 60
price range it's obviously much cheaper
right now and this is where we have to
look at what kathy says and go
damn all of those have just had a
massive sell-off
that's an opportunity we like to say
christ attunity
is another option when i do go out to
for example my
top 60 stocks we get a little bit more
of
some of the legacy companies i do put in
you know my wayfarer my shopify etsy
pinterest lemonade shift technology
tattoo chef chipotle
these are some great ones i do have a
couple legacy companies for example if i
go to
safer tech and consumer you can see
these by the way go to medkevin.com
1337 for example under say for tech and
consumer i have some legacy companies
i've got
you know maybe five six uh percent in
total allocated to stocks like
target lows home depot walmart but
personally
i don't think those are the companies
she's so worried about
uh you know disappearing i think she's
more referring to
mostly the legacy automakers i don't
think she's very excited about those
uh but look kathy what does look at
these sorts of stocks even she even
looks at apple and says
apple might be a little bit more of a
cash play it's interesting maybe she's
taking a little bit of a blunt point of
view
but you have to say when it comes to
innovation she is
all in on the frontier of that i'm
skeptical of some of the choices
especially in bio and maybe that's just
me not being educated enough
so we'll do some more research there
we'll see how things develop
but look if you need any motivation to
say hey
let's double down let's be on the right
side of change and let's invest when
things are cheap
just listen to kathy she posted her
latest video which you can watch
i obviously gave you a little synthesis
or a summary here along with my
commentary if you found this helpful
consider sharing it and folks
we'll see in the next one
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