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Cathie Wood’s Update on the Market Crash | Details.

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hey everyone meet kevin here kathy wood

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just provided some new insights into

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what her opinion is of the market and i

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thought hey you know what why not add a

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little bit of insight on top of her

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insight

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because well it's always good to have

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more insight right and if i say

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insight one more time i think we're

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gonna have to start a challenge where

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you take a shot every time i say insight

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okay let's get into the insight so we're

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very excited

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she says about the opportunities of the

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last few weeks

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and i have to say of all the

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paper-handing sissies that exist out

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there like mr

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chamspock who decided to block me on

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twitter

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uh yes thank you kathy for breathing

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some life

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into the wonderful opportunities that we

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have presented

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to us there are so many wonderful

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opportunities and to keep buying at

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times like these

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actually is the reason why you can

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generate wonderful returns

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by holding through these times and

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investing

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kathy woods says her goal is to return

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15

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compounded over the patented over the

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next five years to essentially double

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her money she might end up doubling her

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money over the next

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year because she is diamond handing and

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buying

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high quality high conviction stocks

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during a time

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when there was a lot of fear and as

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kathy woods says this is a gift to

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anyone

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averaging in very well so what does

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kathy wood

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specifically recommend that we invest in

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well of course transformative innovation

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she believes this is where we will see

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exponential growth for example in evs

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she expects ev sales to compound at 82

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annually over the next five years which

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that is

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almost a doubling every single year over

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the next five years is what kathy wood's

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expectation is

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going forward she says look one of the

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issues that we have

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in the traditional investing model right

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now

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is that most analysts at maybe um by

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side

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institutions are too reliant on old

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school models

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too reliant on old school let's look at

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the price to book ratio let's look to

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at the price to earnings ratio and if it

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doesn't line up with

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our traditional measures of value we're

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not interested and we'll just

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go buy some att stock because we'll get

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a nice seven percent dividend over there

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kathy wood is right kathy wood realizes

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that a vast majority of wall street has

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no freaking clue how to value

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a company like tesla or in her opinion a

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company like a roku

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or even a square how do you value the

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fact

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that jack dorsey is selling his first

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tweet

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from 2006 as an nft

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and what if this is just the door opener

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to jack dorsey over who runs obviously

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not only twitter and

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found twitter but also helped not only

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not only run square but help found

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square and cash app how do we value the

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fact that this could

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be the beginning of cash app offering

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nfts

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and or or twitter now selling tweet

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nfts as a service what if you integrate

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nft purchasing

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into the freaking platform i mean the

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endless

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possibility of these innovative

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companies is the reason why kathy wood

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is investing in these

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and is the reason why when times are bad

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and times are

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red and painful kathy wood has

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essentially become groomed to say

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no no these are the times to buy in fact

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that is actually

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how kathy became popular in the first

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place kathy bought

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all of the under valued under

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appreciated high-growth names

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like the teslas in 2016 17 and 18 when

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it was hard

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when it was unpopular when she was hated

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for doing it

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and of course now kathy wood comes

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across as the hero

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after markets are very very green for a

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few years

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but the real effort was made when nobody

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wanted

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to be on her side and nobody wanted to

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buy during the red

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because people would rather uh no i'm

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gonna re-evaluate my options i'm just

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gonna i'm just gonna sell

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i'll just sell out a virgin galactic not

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to mention any names i'll just sell out

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a virgin galactic

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i'll go re-evaluate my opportunities

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because it's been a tough week

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anyway kathy wood goes on to say that

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she discloses her holdings every day as

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an actively traded etf because there are

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very few actively traded etfs

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she's right about this and that's part

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of the rules of the game

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but she does something special and also

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publishes her research

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and by publishing her research she

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actually believes look we put our

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research out there for criticism and

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commentary

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and that is how we are able to sort

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through the fud

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the fear uncertainty and doubt by seeing

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what

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society thinks we can help adjust sort

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of our research and our formulas and our

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expectations for companies

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and see okay is there sort of a black

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hole in our research so in a crazy way

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by kathy wood putting her research out

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she's actually improving the performance

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of her fund

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just by being open to commentary now i

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have to say it is weird though that

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their youtube channel doesn't allow

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comments but hey we can still get

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insights from what it is that she says

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and obviously twitter is still available

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as an opportunity to interact uh with

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archives

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but anyway another issue that kathy what

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talks about in her latest

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talk is how analysts are really stuck

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to comparing themselves to what the

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index funds are doing what's the s p 500

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doing as long as we can beat the s p 500

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we're good

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kathy wood doesn't care about the

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indices kathy wood isn't fighting to try

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to be right

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for a year or 18 months or two years

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her goal is 20 years from now to be able

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to look back and go

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wow look we did invest where technology

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is right where technology

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ended up happening and we saw that

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coming and we invested at the early

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phase

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of the s curve and this is something

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that i thought was actually really

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powerful

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in the last discussion that she had and

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she says hey look here's the thing

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when it comes to investing in

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transformative industries and you're

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investing in

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an early part of the s curve realize

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that once you see 10 15

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20 growth that is when you are

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investing at the early part of the s

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curve

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and well usually when we hear that

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unless we're super familiar with it

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it can be a little confusing so why

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don't i just quickly pull up the ipad

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here and let's just draw what she means

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so what kathy wood is talking about is

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when you invest

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early on and you start getting that 20

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percent growth that 10

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growth and you're starting to see that

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compounding growth

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that could just be the beginning of what

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it will eventually

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be this exponential growth and then this

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essing right

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so this is something that i've actually

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mentioned personally on this channel

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about tesla before is that i personally

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think

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tesla is very early on this exponential

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growth curve that that growth is still

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ahead

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and today short of saying that about

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tesla

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kathy essentially gave us this insight

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that the industry she's investing in

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right now especially the ev market

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she still thinks is early in the

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exponential curve

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you know we look at tesla stock and

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we're like come on it went from

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you know 2 000 to essentially or 200 to

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2000 that's 10x

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then split uh a 5x or divided by 5

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right in the stock split and then went

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back to 900 like how could you not sell

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and take profits on a tesla what's

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because why would you sell

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out of something that you were still so

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early in on the s curve

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we're just beginning the transformation

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kathy woods says this is this whole

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process

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of building wealth with these

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transformative companies gosh the

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transformation is just beginning

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with this kathy woods says golly how

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could you not

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invest in these transformative

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industries why would you go invest

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into companies that are dying into

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companies who are not

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transforming and adapting why would you

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invest

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and i'm filling these names and she

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didn't mention these right but

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essentially kathy was saying

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why would you go invest into traditional

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let's say

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automakers like a ford why would you

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invest into something uh

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like a movie theater why would you

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invest in retail and this is her words

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okay look i'm all for

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diamond handing on amc but these are her

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opinions she's why would you invest in

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these

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potentially dying industries she says

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look you think the retail

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it can't get any worse for retail after

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going through what happened with coven

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she essentially laughs at that idea and

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says you haven't even seen the start of

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it yet

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the fact that we've only transitioned to

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about 20 percent of sales online sure we

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4x the amount of growth

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in online thanks to covit but the fact

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that we're still only 20

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of sales being online online has a whole

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lot of disruption ahead of it

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she didn't mention names here but

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obviously we can fill in we know that

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is good for the apple the etsy the

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wayfarer

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the amazon we know that's good for these

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platforms she invests in square we know

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that's also good for square

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because what does square do it helps

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move businesses online

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with their omnichannel distribution

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network or not just their distribution

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network but their distribution platform

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for getting channels to have the same

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inventory management system

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offline as they do online so it becomes

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much easier to scale

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online and get retail online finally

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obviously shopify does a lot of this as

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well some who already have stores prefer

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square and the transition for uh going

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from store to online or having both

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with square but either way both great

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companies

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kathy wood makes it very clear that if

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you're investing in

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arc funds you're getting innovation

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and transformation you're not getting

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the stuff

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that might be sexy for a brief period of

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time

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like oh yeah there's a rotation into

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value you're getting something that will

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go through periods of i don't want to

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invest in tesla right now it seems too

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overvalued

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you're going to go through those periods

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but you're investing something that in

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10 years from now

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you can look back and say hmm yeah got

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in that s curve early

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just like kathy said i have to agree

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with everything she's outlined

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now i don't necessarily agree with every

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single stock pick that kathy wood makes

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it's one of the reasons i personally

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don't invest in

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arc but i could never say anything bad

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about what kathy's doing because what

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she's doing is

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exactly what i believe i think it's

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great and i'm not saying i'm copying her

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she's copying me

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we can all have our own opinion about

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this and pick different stocks and

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different allocations

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hey you want to copy what kathy wood

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does with your own tweaks or what i do

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with your own tweaks

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gee go to like m1 finance go to

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medkevin.com m1

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sign up for m1 finance you can make your

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own pie your own sort of

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little mini etf if you will and and do

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it yourself

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it's there are so many options for you

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to invest

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in sort of a pie or or you know a

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portfolio of stocks yourself in an

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automated way but what else does kathy

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tell us well

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she tells us look there is a lot of

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fear uncertainty and doubt regarding

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evaluations right now

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but when it comes to asking if we're in

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a bubble kathy woods says

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absolutely not she doesn't believe that

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we're in a bubble

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she thinks bubbles are actually

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backwards looking

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that all we're really doing is or what

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some people are doing is they're saying

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well tech and ev must be in a bubble

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because the prices are so high

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and look at the run-up we saw before the

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dot-com era well that was a bubble so

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why isn't this

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a bubble she says this is the problem

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with looking backwards

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is when you look backwards all you see

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is a chart going up

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and assume that that means it must be a

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bubble when kathy wood says look the dot

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com era was early

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25 years too soon but we are now in

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prime

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time the plants she says are now

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flourishing

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the plants that were planted then the

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seeds then are now flourishing

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and then now is the time where we take

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technology into reality and

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into prime time of making attendees

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basically

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we're at that that s curve phase of just

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beginning and this is

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really really good news for disruptive

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innovation

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when kathy talks about the fed she talks

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about how look

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we're going to see that cpi bump to

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three to four percent that temporary

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base effect

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interest or you know inflation data that

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we've been talking about on this channel

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we're going to see that

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but it's going to be temporary now

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what's interesting is

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kathy wood still maintains that she

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thinks there's a good chance the federal

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reserve could raise

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interest rates sooner than the fed

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believes

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but kathy wood believes that in the long

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term we're not going to see

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hyperinflation

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we're not going to see anything higher

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than maybe a four percent interest rate

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in the future even that personally i

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think is pretty high i think the fed's

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likely to stay around

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uh you know fed discount rate of maybe

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two and a half percent we can differ

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there

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but the reason she gives for inflation

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being temporary is fascinating

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and she's talked about this before but

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it's worth reiterating it's worth noting

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that

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she believes there are two types of

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deflation one

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is deflation that comes from technology

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hey the easier it becomes to manufacture

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iphones the cheaper iphones can become

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and better technology somebody can get

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in their hands for the same

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cost of dollars that they spend you know

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five hundred dollars spent on an iphone

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10 years ago

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gets you way crappier technology than

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five hundred dollars spent on an iphone

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today that is a form of deflation but

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there's also and that's a good form of

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deflation because we get better stuff

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for less

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but she also reiterates that there's a

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bad form of deflation and that's when

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you get legacy companies like ford

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having to cut prices in the future

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because

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they fail to innovate they failed to

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keep up with the disruptive

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curves that we are seeing today and she

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thinks there's going to be a lot of

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confusion

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she thinks one of the reasons we see

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such low earnings multiples

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and some of the legacy companies whether

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they're retail

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or companies that just aren't innovating

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is because there's confusion

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she thinks a lot of people look at a

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stock and say oh well tesla must be

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overvalued

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because the price to earnings ratio is

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so high and oh

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another company must be a good deal

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because the price to earnings ratio is

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so low

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and she says this is going to lead to a

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crisis essentially

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we're going to see bankruptcies at some

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of the

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original the og companies potentially

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the fords

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the gm the movie theaters of the retail

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and all of these high valuations that we

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look at now it's like oh my gosh you

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know 200 300 p e ratio

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that in the future might have a 50 times

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earnings multiple

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but they'll actually be printing money

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because they are on the right side of

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change

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now kathy does briefly talk about how in

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her opinion stimulus passing is going to

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lead to

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higher taxes in either the form of

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higher inflation or future taxes which

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is something that joe biden is

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potentially more likely to do she

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says but ultimately she challenges

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investors

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are you on the right side of change are

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you on the right side

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of history now what i want to do is just

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briefly pull up

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m1 finance and just look at some of my

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mo more

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high conviction stocks and see are these

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in my opinion

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obviously i'm opining about my own

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choices here on the right side of change

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and so for example my top 10 are stocks

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like

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etsy tesla enface expi peloton pinterest

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lemonade neo redfin

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and cciv lucid personally to me

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none of these are legacy companies none

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of these

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in my opinion are failing to innovate

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some of them might be trading at rich

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valuations and even i personally i bag

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on peloton and lemonade for being too

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expensive right now

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i bag on etsy for being too expensive

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when it's over 225

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i get upset when neo is in the 60

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price range it's obviously much cheaper

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right now and this is where we have to

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look at what kathy says and go

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damn all of those have just had a

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massive sell-off

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that's an opportunity we like to say

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christ attunity

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is another option when i do go out to

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for example my

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top 60 stocks we get a little bit more

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of

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some of the legacy companies i do put in

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you know my wayfarer my shopify etsy

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pinterest lemonade shift technology

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tattoo chef chipotle

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these are some great ones i do have a

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couple legacy companies for example if i

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go to

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safer tech and consumer you can see

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these by the way go to medkevin.com

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1337 for example under say for tech and

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consumer i have some legacy companies

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i've got

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you know maybe five six uh percent in

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total allocated to stocks like

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target lows home depot walmart but

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personally

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i don't think those are the companies

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she's so worried about

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uh you know disappearing i think she's

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more referring to

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mostly the legacy automakers i don't

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think she's very excited about those

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uh but look kathy what does look at

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these sorts of stocks even she even

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looks at apple and says

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apple might be a little bit more of a

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cash play it's interesting maybe she's

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taking a little bit of a blunt point of

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view

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but you have to say when it comes to

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innovation she is

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all in on the frontier of that i'm

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skeptical of some of the choices

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especially in bio and maybe that's just

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me not being educated enough

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so we'll do some more research there

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we'll see how things develop

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but look if you need any motivation to

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say hey

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let's double down let's be on the right

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side of change and let's invest when

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things are cheap

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just listen to kathy she posted her

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latest video which you can watch

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i obviously gave you a little synthesis

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or a summary here along with my

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commentary if you found this helpful

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consider sharing it and folks

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we'll see in the next one

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