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well the CEO of open AI famous for chat

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GPT is now doubling down on a nuclear

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fission spack

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he's been on the board of directors

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actually been chairman of this board

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since 2015 known the founders since

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roughly around 2013 why combinator

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involved in this and take a look at this

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we're actually going back to spacland

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now I've got some thoughts on this and

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we're going to go through it but first

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understand what's going on

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this SPAC is going to take oculopublic

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which is a company that's developing a

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small nuclear reactor and what you could

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do is you could go to their website and

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get some pictures of this these are all

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just 3D renderings these don't exist yet

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and this stuff makes me very very

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nervous I'm exhausted at looking at

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renderings and projections I thought we

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got past renderings and projections but

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no apparently they're coming back as the

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stock market's going up spacks are back

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baby

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so basically oclo is uh the the idea

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here is that how can we produce a

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nuclear power plant that could

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potentially just Supply One data center

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or one how massive housing tractor maybe

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about 15 000 units or one region in a

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city or a neighborhood or whatever how

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can we create a small footprint building

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with a small reactor in it

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and basically copy and paste these

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around the world and uh the idea is that

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maybe we can spend 60 million dollars on

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a reactor and end up creating a 15

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million dollar uh or 15 megawatt

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capacity a 15 megawatt capacity based on

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a roughly 24 kilowatt hour per day usage

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on average for an American household

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covers about 15 000 homes now we did

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this research ourselves kind of trying

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to play with some numbers the net the

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national average for kilowatt usage

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tends to be around 24 per house per day

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and uh what I thought was really

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interesting is when we did the math that

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actually converted to roughly whatever

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the megawattage is of the power plant is

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how many thousands of homes you could

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power so if you have a 50 megawatt plant

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50 000 homes 5 megawatt uh you know

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windmill 5 000 homes kind of incredible

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now it does appear that the technology

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is a little bit more expensive even at

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their 60 million dollar projection than

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say wind energy but wind energy is

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really good at a couple parts of the day

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and not always available which could be

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a downside obviously so you could get

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like a three uh probably somewhere

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around a three megawatt windmill for

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around four million dollars so if I

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wanted to get about five of these I

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would have about a 15 megawatt capacity

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for around 20 million dollars while oklo

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is expecting to build these nuclear

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power plants right here for about 60

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million dollars a piece and then have a

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15 megawatt generating facility now if

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you could sell this at 20 cents a

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kilowatt hour it might be less but let's

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say you could sell it at 20 cents it

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could be pretty desirable because uh you

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know that could generate potentially up

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to uh 20 plus million dollars in a year

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of of electricity uh you know gross

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electricity revenue of course you have

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costs that go into nuclear fission but

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there's there's definitely like the

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concept is definitely sexy and so this

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SPAC is looking to be valued at 850

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million dollars looking to raise 500

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million dollars in cash

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and this small nuclear design setup has

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not actually been tested yet uh they

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have some permits to really start

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getting into some of this but

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they have not been tested on a super

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small scale yet like this although

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fission technology is is pretty common

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you've got fission infusion uh fission

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is your your common one uh that uh that

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is available uh to nuclear reactors so

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the technology is definitely there just

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hasn't been brought down to this sort of

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smaller scale here the first reactors

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are expected to be delivered in Idaho

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and Ohio and there are expectations that

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perhaps there could be very large

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inflation reduction Act tax credits for

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these sort of reactors here's an example

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of what an oculo 2 Powerhouse would look

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like basically for those only just

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listening it's it it sort of looks like

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a a small maybe four or five thousand

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square foot building where you have uh

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it's just a metal frame and you have a

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Lobby and then you walk into this

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smaller room where you have a reactor

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sitting there that looks like it's about

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the size of a school bus

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and uh this is uh this is somewhat

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fascinating that in the future we're

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probably going to have a lot more

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commercial or a a commercial push

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towards nuclear which is actually my

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opinion great I think it's a phenomenal

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source of energy I personally am not

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sure about investing in a company like

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this because I ultimately what you're

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doing is you're selling a commodity

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right a unit of electricity is basically

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a commodity so you face competition not

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just from other nuclear power plants but

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also from solar batteries wind uh and

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and then let me just let me just almost

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hard stop here permitting like good luck

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uh I mean I do think though where you

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could prove this model out where you're

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probably going to start with this model

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is factories in the middle of nowhere

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because people don't want to live around

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a nuclear power plant but if you're like

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hey Intel's building a new Factory uh

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how about we just put a nuclear power

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plant next to that and help power it

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great fantastic you know with where this

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could actually be very useful they

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should try to sell this sucker in Taiwan

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Taiwan as we talked about yesterday

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Taiwan Imports 96 of their energy and if

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China blockaded Taiwan in some sort of

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you know takeover battle whatever they

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could basically not

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kill a single person and just cut

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electricity off to the island like no

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actual like combat Warfare like a Russia

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versus Ukraine just cut off taiwan's

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electricity Supply because they have to

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physically import 96 of the electricity

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uh via you know importing natural gas

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and then operating uh you know either

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coal-fired power plants or natural gas

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power plants

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uh and nuclear reactors them having

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their own would be a perfect way for

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energy sustainability the problem is

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again you've got a political environment

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that's super anti-nuclear in Taiwan

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oopsie Daisy so you probably really end

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up trying to uh build out a concept like

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this at factories again Ohio Idaho it

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doesn't really surprise me Idaho has

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already got quite a few uh you know

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energy facilities nuclear energy

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facilities and research uh it seems like

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it's a great place for it but anyway the

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fact that spacks are back where now

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you're looking at here's a company with

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an idea I mean this is really what you

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have what you have is a company with an

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idea

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and now they've been in or they've been

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around for about 10 years but it's a

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company with an idea

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that has some cool renderings of a power

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plant and an idea that's very salable

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like hey we've got an energy crisis

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we've got a problem let's make a pretty

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you know diagram here of how we can

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create small power plants and uh not yet

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a provable business model

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and then they're going to essentially be

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worth almost a billion dollars

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and blowing to me part of this I think

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is because you end up getting people

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involved like Sam Altman people put

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their name on this and then they're able

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to spack companies it's kind of like

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what chemov did with whether it was open

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door Virgin Galactic or weather-wise

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now what's interesting is uh Sam Oldman

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actually a little bit of history on him

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he invested 375 million dollars into

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helion and that was a nuclear fusion

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company back in 20 uh yeah in 2021

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helion is the first Fusion company to

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sign a contract to sell energy to

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Microsoft and that is expected to start

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producing energy by 2028 although that's

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much more experimental than a fission

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company

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uh it's kind of incredible though and

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there are real penalties if that Fusion

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company doesn't actually deliver energy

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uh especially since you know they

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haven't quite figured that out yet

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which I think is fascinating because it

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goes to show that in the smaller nuclear

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power plant space you're going to have

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competition between not just uh solar

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wind and otherwise but also Fusion

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that's going to be interesting uh anyway

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uh highly uh you know or helion is

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another uh hylion that's the destruction

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company helion that'll be quite

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interesting to see how they can ramp up

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uh larger megawatt facilities but uh

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sticking on Aqua here for a moment he

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um again the company is expected to

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spack we do have actually a ticker here

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I think it's alt c a l c c is uh is the

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spec let's see if that's uh I believe

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that's already actually trading

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uh yeah ALS alcc

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is the ticker and then you'll see the

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alt C acquisition Corp it's trading for

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10.44 cents right now I have to say I

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think though a lot of people are going

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to be once bitten twice shy on this

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remember back in the day where

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everybody's like oh just buy a spack at

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ten dollars you can't go wrong buying a

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spack at ten dollars and uh yeah no you

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can then what happens is they end up

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actually reverse merging you get this

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merger and then what you get lockup

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expirations and everybody on the inside

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dumps because the valuation for these

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these companies is not so

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uh it's kind of remarkable now by the

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way if you're on Twitter spaces and you

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want to request to chat feel free to

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request to chat since uh now we uh are

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able to remind you about an expiring

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coupon code coming up in two weeks for

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the programs I'm building your wealth

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not just on YouTube or twitch but also

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Twitter live video and Twitter spaces

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which I think is kind of cool I still

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haven't looked to see if it's possible

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that both of those could possibly be

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going at the same time I kind of like

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The Show Must Go On most so we're gonna

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go with the show no matter what but uh

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that does seem like it is kind of

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interesting uh yeah it actually does

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look like I'm live on video and live

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with spaces right now how cool okay so

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anyway this gives us a little bit of a

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look into oclo uh again keep in mind the

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biggest risks to a company like aklo in

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my opinion are going to be energy and

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well I mean number one hands down by far

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the biggest risk hard stop permitting by

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far are the biggest risk of course it's

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the biggest risk why because

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if nobody permits your project you're

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not going to get off the ground you're

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not going to be able to scale this your

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revenues are going to be nominal for a

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decade or more and it's going to be a

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very risky investment in my opinion and

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look even though my license financial

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advisor and I run an ETF can't give you

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personalized advice here on social media

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but boy I uh I'm definitely a little uh

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a little concerned about uh about the

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revenue potential here strictly from a

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permitting point of view so that's

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permitting but then you've got a big gap

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and your next risk is just competition

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from other energy sources now I do think

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that there is a real potential that

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solar and wind over this next decade

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have I mean this could end up becoming

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the decade of solar and wind right now I

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believe markets are very anti-energy

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very very bearish energy which I think

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is a perfect time to actually start

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creating positions in companies like and

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phase let me give you a little hint hint

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you what you should do is go look at how

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many micro inverters and phase expects

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to manufacture by the end of 2024 this

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is something we've been talking about

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with course members for a while now you

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should look at how many micro inverters

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they're expected to manufacture by the

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end of 2024 and then you should look at

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how much money uh per kilowatt these

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inverters are expected to receive from

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the inflation reduction act and then

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when you do a little bit of quick math

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you can start seeing that the net income

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numbers of end phase could change

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dramatically more than Wall Street

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expects over the next four to five years

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so uh pretty remarkable so we'll see

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what happens

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uh but yeah uh

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you know Caleb here says why not just

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IPO if you've had a good business for a

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decade right so here's the way that

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works

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a good business takes a lot of startup

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money usually uh now there are uh

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experimental good businesses and then

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there are inherently good businesses an

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inherently good business does not

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actually require that much startup

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Capital because you start making money

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very quickly now I'm not trying to Pat

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myself on the back here but I just don't

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think it's it's challenging what we're

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going to do but with my real estate

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startup you know knock on wood over here

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with my real estate startup I expect we

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can take a small amount of money

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relative to you know the world of

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venture capital and actually start

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making money

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right away or very quickly and then for

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you know about 10 years or seven to ten

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years make a lot of money and then IPO

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so it'd be a very traditional path start

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with small seed grow that make money

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prove profitability and IPO that's your

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traditional model the problem is if you

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just have like some crazy idea that is

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either going to go to the moon or just

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completely collapse like we're gonna

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make solid state batteries or we're

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gonna put nuclear power plants

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everywhere in people's neighborhoods you

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know these these ideas take hundreds to

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billions of dollars without

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any expectation of return

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until all of a sudden the pieces fall

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together and then the returns are insane

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and so what people do or why they spack

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is they basically uh try to I hate

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saying this phrase but they kind of

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cheat the money raising process

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because what they're doing is rather

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than going through a traditional

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fundraise which could take you like a

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year to put together

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you basically just go to a blank company

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that is a company that's ipoed with a

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ticker like alcc or whatever old see and

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that company had basically uh zero

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everything on their balance sheet it's

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easy to audit it's easy for the SEC to

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say okay yeah go ahead and IPO they IPO

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they don't even ring the bell or

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anything they just start trading on the

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stock exchange for 10 bucks some form of

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par value

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and then what happens is they say who

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can we merge with they come up with some

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crazy outlandish projections and story

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and narrative and then they merge with

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that company usually in the span of

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three to six months with very limited

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SEC review so really what you're doing

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is you're not you're skipping a lot of

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the SEC review you're skipping a lot of

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the uh underwriting that you would get

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from a traditional IPO and you're

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skipping that traditional Market testing

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that people like to see before a company

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actually goes public so you're

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shortcutting all of this to try to make

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a bag of cash up front and that's why

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I'm not the biggest fan of spax because

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I kind of think they're just cash grabs

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especially since the uh the people who

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put their name on it they end up taking

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these insane fees of like 50 to 100

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million dollars 10 to 20 percent of the

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money raised and that that's just nuts a

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hundred million dollar Payday for doing

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a spack I mean don't get me wrong it

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seems like a great business model but

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uh I don't know I guess I guess we'll

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see so you know good luck to our club

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but it's a that's my take I suppose now

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I want you to know this when it comes to

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AI

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time is what's going to make you money

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and if you can prove that value to an

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employer you'll always be able to be

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employed so this is another way of

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making sure that you don't get replaced

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but

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foreign

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