Tesla Stock Earnings SHOCK w/ Trump FLIP | Full Breakdown
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The stocks are rallying. Tesla earnings
just came out and yeah, they weren't
good, but the stock is still up 5%. Why?
We'll break that down in this video. And
I'll briefly touch on what the houble
hockey sticks just happened with NPA
earnings. Now, a few things to know. And
I just want to start with why the heck
are futures pumping? Why is the market
running? This actually has little to do
with earnings at all. Pretty much has
nothing to do with earnings. It has
everything to do with Donald Trump
negotiating against himself on Chinese
tariffs. That's not trying to take a
stab at Trump. It's just that we haven't
started conversations with China per
Bessant today. They have hopes of
starting negotiations with China. And
Trump is now saying the tariffs won't be
zero, but they won't be as high as 145%
on China. So in other words, Donald
Trump since they haven't started
negotiation with China and Donald Trump
is saying they're going to be lower than
where they are now, but they'll be
higher than zero and less than where
they are now. He's basically negotiating
against himself. But it wasn't just
that. Donald Trump also said that the
Fed should lower interest rates and we
would like the chairperson Jerome Powell
to be early or on
time but then said that even though
Jerome Powell might be late, you know,
Mr. Late as Donald Trump calls him,
Donald Trump has no intention of firing
the Fed chair. Okay, markets pumped
immediately after this discussion. So
when Donald Trump said these things,
markets jumped immediately. Futures went
up from basically flat to almost up 1.8%
on the cues. Everything went up on this
because you're undoing some of the
uncertainty of investing in America by
this idea that we're going to turn into
like a turkey or something where we just
fire our, you know, chairperson of the
Fed of the central bank when we don't
like what they're doing. And so that is
bringing some money back at least in,
you know, the futures markets and after
hours. So, in case you're wondering why
there's this huge pump, hopefully that
gives you some understanding of what's
going on in the broader market. Now, we
do have to talk about earnings. So,
Tesla told us some really important and
critical things today. And I'm going to
break this all down for you as simply as
possible. There's a lot. I mean, it it
was like we did a three and a half hour
live stream. So, let me just keep this
very simple for you. Okay. One of the
big big big fat takeaways was that the
company update was really just that Elon
Musk is going to keep fighting for Doge,
but he's going to walk back his efforts
at Doge to maybe just two days a week,
one to two days a week starting in May.
So Elon Musk says there's still work to
be done, but the groundwork has been set
and that he's going to spend more time
at Tesla starting in May. We didn't
really actually get a big company update
after that. everything else fell mostly
in line. However, we did get a little
bit more color on this idea about, hey,
what about new models? You know, we keep
getting this talk about new, more
affordable models. And if you look right
here, this is the snippet that you want
to pay attention to when we're talking
about these newer uh models of vehicles.
And so what we see here is this phrase,
plans for new vehicles, including more
affordable models, remain on track for
the start of production in the first
half of 2025. Now, what I wrote up here
in gibberish is, okay, wait a minute,
new vehicles could be cyber cab, and
then including more affordable models
could really just be stripped down
versions of existing models. And then
what I wrote is like, could somebody
just give us more freaking clarity?
Like, tell us what you mean. So they
don't do that in this document, but they
did in the earnings call. See in the
document they said, "Hey, our goal is to
just to get to basically full capacity
of our existing manufacturing lines."
Now, this is really important because
they're saying, "Look, you know, we
realize we are not fully using all of
our manufacturing lines. In other words,
we could produce more vehicles than we
are today." And so, we want to get to
100% functionality. And so, or or
productivity, I should say, would be a
better way to put it, right? Output 100%
productivity. So their phrase is quote,
"We are focused on
affordability. We're focused on people's
monthly payment because that leads to
more vehicles and therefore quote new
models will resemble in form and shape
the existing cars we make, but the cars
will be more affordable." Quote, "We are
limited on using existing manufacturing
lines with different form factors."
Okay. In English, yes. what we've been
concerned as a likely reality over the
last 18 months, which it's good and bad,
right? But we've been concerned that
this idea about a new car coming is
really just going to end up being a
paired down Model 3, paired down Model
Y, or cheaper Cybert trucks. And that
sounds like it's exactly what we're
getting. Now, that's not necessarily
bad. From an efficiency point of view,
this is totally logical. But from a
hopium point of view, some people were
going to be disappointed by this because
there was hope that if we have a new
car, there'll be some new sizzle or some
new stake that we could sell and we
could get to more vehicle production.
Instead, Tesla's basically saying, "Nah,
we're going to use the same platforms
that we have. We're just going to figure
out how to pair them down more so we
could sell them more cheaply." Now this
is slightly problematic because margin
is already getting compressed as they
said in their earnings call and in their
press release that tariffs will affect
their business more so the energy
business than the vehicle business but
also the vehicle business know that just
5% of lithium ion battery production
comes from the North America 84% comes
from China and so when it comes to the
trade war they see more of an impact on
their energy side which is also very
battery dependent which we'll talk about
Nphase a a little bit later in this
video, but it's worth noting when you
compare the production of of uh you know
batteries between Tesla and Nphase, it's
not even close. Like NPhase blow or
sorry um Tesla blows NPhase absolutely
out of the water uh in terms of battery
production. Tesla output over 10 gawatt
of battery production whereas uh and you
know that's Tesla right over 10
gigawatts. Just want to make sure I'm
saying that right. And Nphase only
produced about 44 megawws, which if you
divide those into each other and
convert, Tesla's doing 236 times the
battery production of Nphase. It's it's
a huge huge number of battery production
that Tesla is doing. And this is really
important because batteries have good
margins. Uh and unfortunately, the
tariffs are hitting those margins for
Tesla. So, not great. Now, that said,
margins for energy were great this
quarter at Tesla. We had uh energy
margins at 28.7%. That was above
expectations for the first quarter.
Although they kind of asterisk that by
saying that energy income's going to be
very volatile. There's also a point in
the uh slide deck where you get Elon
Musk suggest or presumably Elon Musk
suggesting but we don't know. Uh we have
this suggestion. I'll show it to you
right here. Uh here it is. The rate of
growth this year will depend on a
variety of factors including the rate uh
of the acceleration of our autonomy
efforts, the production ramp of the
macro environment, and we will revisit
our 2025 guidance for Q2 or in Q2. In
other words, you know, is this sort of
Elon saying like, hey, we'll have a
better idea of where tariffs land by
July because maybe a lot of the tariff
drama will be over by then. I don't
know. May maybe that's too optimistic to
look at it that way, but I do think it's
kind of interesting that they specified
the second quarter and Elon is an
insider in the White House. In addition
to this, we have automotive margin X
credits at just 12.5% that was a miss.
Uh and automotive margin with credits at
16.3% which was a slight beat over the
16.1 expected. Tesla's got plenty of
cash. This is the balance sheet. You
really when you're looking at Tesla, I
know a lot of people are going to poo
poo these numbers here, but they have a
lot of money. They're not going anywhere
anytime soon. And you kind of have to
look at the money that they have and
respect it and go, "All right, I mean,
this is still pretty damn good." They've
got $40.7 billion of available cash. In
fairness, they have a stack of bills on
their desk of 26.5 billion. They have
$16.2 billion of long-term debt, which
means if I just subtract the cash they
have from the bills they have, they have
14.2 2 billion of free cash just this
year available. On top of that, they
have another 11 billion of inventories.
So, as they start, you know, selling
vehicles, they increase their cash flow
and they can pay off their bills or
whatever, right? So, they've got plenty
of cash. And even though their cash flow
isn't as great as it used to be, their
cash flow coming in at just over $600
million. The expectation was for it to
be over a billion dollars. They're still
producing cash flow on top of this cash
pile that they have. So, they've got a
lot of cash. And yes, free cash flow was
low this quarter, but they themselves
say we have sufficient liquidity. And
this is actually good because people
were concerned that Tesla might want to
like issue shares to invest in XAI or
something. There were some crazy rumors
about this beforehand. A bigger problem
I would say is net income. You know,
Tesla's net income was not very good
this quarter and I'm very curious to see
how Wall Street analysts are going to
treat this net income. There's also some
rumor mill that and this could be true
that because we did last quarter we
recognized Bitcoin gains as part of our
net income. And I I I haven't had time
to get to the bottom of this yet, but
there's a possibility that Bitcoin
losses were not included this time. I'm
wondering if that's because now we're in
a quarterly report and the last report
was an annual report. I I don't know.
Either way, I don't really care because
I care about the core of the business.
And the core of the business h it had it
did have some problems. Okay, it we we
had some problems. First of all,
automotive revenues were down 31%. Okay,
that's that's a big hit. Now, yes, we
went from Q4 to Q1, but that's still a
pretty big hit. Yes, some of that is
because of the Model Y revamp Juniper,
but a lot of it is probably brand damage
and just selling cars for less. Although
the Model Y Juniper led to, you know, a
higher average selling price because of
Juniper, so that helps. But you're still
cutting prices across the board. You
know, even on the Cybertruck now out for
what, $69,000, you could get a long
range Cy Cybertruck. I have the
Cybertruck, the fast one. Honestly, I I
I never Trump on it, so I would probably
just get the regular one, and you
basically get the same vehicle. Uh, and
you save what, $30,000. That's probably
a good deal. Anyway, uh we can see that
their margin on energy was good, but
their gross profit overall here in this
red highlight collapsed
25%. Which isn't great. That's again
mostly because their automotive
revenues, their topline fell. This is
why you have to put your business hat on
when it comes to Tesla. This is why
Tesla is telling us, "Hey, um we're
going to focus on actually manufacturing
as many freaking cars as we can." And
honestly, I'm bullish about hearing
that. Like fine, no new model, fine, but
get more vehicles out. In fact, I've
been pounding my fists on the table
saying just make more cars. Like we
should be saturating the world with FSD
and more cars. Like even if you have to
lower the price of FSD, make more cars
because that increases the network
effects of Tesla. More people buying
Tes, you know, Tesla solar, more people
buying Tesla batteries, more people
talking up FSD, more people minimizing
the brand damage of Tesla and defending
Tesla. uh you know more people
supporting uh Optimus or buying the
stock or or believing in the company or
whatever because they're users of the
product. This is a good thing. This is
why you know when like you know I've
I've done just real estate analysis as
an example just as a comparison on on my
YouTube channel for years and I I I
don't think it's a surprise that when
you know I'm like hey we're starting a
real estate company that you can invest
in people are like oh yeah I like I I
know the work Kevin does. I want to be a
part of that. It's the same thing for
Tesla, right? The more people you have
inside the company, the more people are
willing to invest in the company and in
the stock. And so, I actually think this
is a good strategy of moving to full
production and getting back to vehicle
growth. Let's get to 3 million vehicles
produced. Let's stay away from this 1.9
million nonsense being stuck in the
schlog. Now, we're going to talk about
Optimus and some of this excitement in
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this sheet over
here, Tesla is, you know, there is
obviously a huge amount of hope priced
into Tesla right now. We know that this
idea that we only generated $399 million
of net income in the face of an estimate
of $1.13 billion is a big problem. It's
not good. You have a collapse of net
income. Last year, you had 34 cents of
earnings in this quarter. Now you're
down at 13. So, not good. Your net
margin, like this, this 3.99, if you
divide this by the revenues they had,
you're only at 2% margin. And if you add
research and development back, you're,
you know, somewhere at a 9.3% net
margin, which is a low margin business.
It's not good. So then the question is
if you produce more cars at, you know,
and you get more volume, but you're
doing it at a lower cost with these
newer models that are going to be the
same form factor, are you actually going
to increase this net income? We don't
know. Now hopefully we could do it with
Optimus, right? Because see the thing
about Optimus is Elon says, "Hey, maybe
we can produce a million Optimus robots
by 2030, maybe even 2029." Okay. Well,
so really quick math at $25,000 per
Optimus robot, a 30% margin because
hopefully it would include the FSD,
basically the AI brain, that generates
about $7.5 billion per year of income
before taxes, which would be roughly
double our 2025 estimated profits alone.
This would be great. But then when you
look at what Wall Street's already
estimating for for Tesla, Wall Street's
already pricing in an explosion in net
income by 2029. Net income for 2025 is
supposed to be $9 billion. Wall Street's
already assuming net income is going to
more than 3x to $29 billion by 2029. So
Wall Street's definitely pricing in some
level of either margin expansion, energy
sales expansion, certainly energy
expansions built into there, but not
that much, not $20 billion worth. uh and
then some sort of revenue for Optimus
and uh uh and and robo taxis which uh
Elon Musk does suggest we're still going
to see robo taxis uh launched in Austin
as a trial this June. Then he revises
that to say late June, early July. So
we're getting a little bit of a
potential delay here. And he says that
unsupervised uh uh FSD would come to
vehicles by the end of this year in
select cities when in the last earnings
call he said by summer for Texas and
California. So we're seeing some delay
uh about a six-month delay on
unsupervised FSD and about a one-mon
delay potentially on robo taxi. That's
that could be worse. Okay, not trying to
defend Elon with his bad timing, but I'm
just saying that could be worse. You
know, one month delay even on the robo
taxis isn't too terrible. So then in
fairness, if you do look at the
automotive credits, which Tesla's still
getting for manufacturing and customers
were still getting for EV tax credits
before Trump's tax plan, without the
automotive tax credits, Tesla would have
lost money. They had $595 million of
automotive credits. So keep that in
mind. That's a problem. Supercharger
growth only grew by 17% on the low side
for really expanding this EV network. Uh
and uh 10.4 gawatt hours of deployed Q1
energy battery packs, storage packs.
It's actually pretty good. That's
actually pretty bullish coming from Q4
because, you know, Q4 is usually where
people deploy this stuff. So, I thought
that was pretty actually good. Uh, now,
as far as this uh this talk about, uh,
you know, the the um tariffs, he says
that Elon Musk says he's, you know, pro-
free trade or no tariffs for greater
prosperity, but tariffs are a decision
that the president comes up with. It's
not up to him. So, they're going to work
to localize their supply chains. But
there's some challenges because a lot of
their supply chains localized in North
America rely on Canada and Mexico. 85%
of that roughly fortunately USMCA
compliant which is a good thing. Mostly
exempt from tariffs right now mostly. Uh
but then they do also rely on China for
things like critical minerals which is
uh you know certainly a sore spot right
now especially since China is asking
Tesla hey you know for these critical
minerals you need in your robots your
Optimus robots are any of these going to
be used in military purposes? It just
shows you how much power China actually
has. Obviously the answer is no, but it
shows the power China has even over
Tesla right now. Uh which is somewhat
challenging. Now uh what we also find is
uh this this idea of
uh how many autonomous vehicles might we
get by July or June, whatever. Elon says
about 10 to 20 and we're still planning
on releasing those this year. Uh but the
big focus right now is full utilization
of our factories this year. That's the
big goal. Uh Elon talks about being
ridiculously vertically integrated. Uh
we're going to be the most valuable
company in the world. The problem is
when you manufacture a new product like
Optimus, which is still a development
product. It's uh complex to manufacture
and it's going to take a while to scale
it. You know, talk to us next year
basically on that. So this gives us you
an overview of Tesla. I think most of
Tesla's bounce in the after hours was
really more Trump driven and trade hope
driven than it was actual numbers driven
because if you think about it the
company update we didn't get a new model
announced we actually got the opposite
we got no new car announced we missed on
basically every single metric with the
exception of one set of margin you know
EPS guy like all this stuff was a miss
it was bad uh we didn't get again a new
model we got this talk about Elon maybe
coming back next month uh but you know
then again like does how much does that
fundamentally change the business model
if he's still working at Doge one to two
days a week I don't know so most of the
runup we're seeing right now I'm going
to attribute to Trump not so much these
earnings however there is also the
possibility that people are just looking
at these Tesla earnings and they're like
all right the worst is now over now I
don't know that the worst is now over
but it could be that people are like all
right terrible quarter behind us now we
could buy the dip that's also possible
now I'm going to briefly do end phase
Nphase. Uh, okay. Look, minimal impact
for micro inverters. They do most of
their micro inverters in America because
of the tax credits they get from the
inflation reduction act. Big dollar.
Unfortunately, much like Tesla, they
source a lot of their batteries from
China and that's going to hurt their
margin by 6 to 8% on gross margin uh
between like well really until the third
quarter and then they're going to start
working on switching to other countries.
They didn't say which. I guessed South
Korea and then later in their earnings
call they suggested South Korea as a
potential. This is not a surprise. Just
think Samsung. Okay, this this is not a
you know big brain move here. This is
kind of obvious. Uh so they're looking
at lower tariff alternatives. But Nphase
missed across the board really as well.
Their estimate for revenue was 377 mil.
They came in at 360 4.5% miss on the
guide. Their margin came in at 455
versus 49.8 expected. their adjusted EPS
missed at 68 cents versus 73. Basically
missed across the board. Basically,
don't buy NPhase until the Federal
Reserve panics and cuts rates. That's my
take. Uh however, their balance sheet
still looks pretty good, which makes
them a cheap deal right now to maybe
start thinking about as we get into a
rate cut environment. 1.5 billion of
cash, $960 million of bills, plus about
600 million in long-term debt. They
could basically use 100% of their cash
to pay off 100% of their debt. They're p
cash flow positive slightly about 34 mil
a quarter. So I don't see a high
bankruptcy risk here. Obviously their
stock will probably just continue to go
down on the weight of tariffs and high
interest rates which hurt solar
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