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Tesla Stock Earnings SHOCK w/ Trump FLIP | Full Breakdown

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The stocks are rallying. Tesla earnings

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just came out and yeah, they weren't

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good, but the stock is still up 5%. Why?

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We'll break that down in this video. And

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I'll briefly touch on what the houble

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hockey sticks just happened with NPA

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earnings. Now, a few things to know. And

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I just want to start with why the heck

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are futures pumping? Why is the market

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running? This actually has little to do

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with earnings at all. Pretty much has

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nothing to do with earnings. It has

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everything to do with Donald Trump

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negotiating against himself on Chinese

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tariffs. That's not trying to take a

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stab at Trump. It's just that we haven't

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started conversations with China per

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Bessant today. They have hopes of

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starting negotiations with China. And

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Trump is now saying the tariffs won't be

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zero, but they won't be as high as 145%

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on China. So in other words, Donald

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Trump since they haven't started

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negotiation with China and Donald Trump

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is saying they're going to be lower than

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where they are now, but they'll be

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higher than zero and less than where

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they are now. He's basically negotiating

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against himself. But it wasn't just

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that. Donald Trump also said that the

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Fed should lower interest rates and we

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would like the chairperson Jerome Powell

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to be early or on

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time but then said that even though

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Jerome Powell might be late, you know,

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Mr. Late as Donald Trump calls him,

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Donald Trump has no intention of firing

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the Fed chair. Okay, markets pumped

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immediately after this discussion. So

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when Donald Trump said these things,

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markets jumped immediately. Futures went

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up from basically flat to almost up 1.8%

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on the cues. Everything went up on this

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because you're undoing some of the

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uncertainty of investing in America by

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this idea that we're going to turn into

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like a turkey or something where we just

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fire our, you know, chairperson of the

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Fed of the central bank when we don't

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like what they're doing. And so that is

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bringing some money back at least in,

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you know, the futures markets and after

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hours. So, in case you're wondering why

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there's this huge pump, hopefully that

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gives you some understanding of what's

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going on in the broader market. Now, we

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do have to talk about earnings. So,

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Tesla told us some really important and

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critical things today. And I'm going to

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break this all down for you as simply as

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possible. There's a lot. I mean, it it

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was like we did a three and a half hour

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live stream. So, let me just keep this

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very simple for you. Okay. One of the

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big big big fat takeaways was that the

2:10

company update was really just that Elon

2:13

Musk is going to keep fighting for Doge,

2:15

but he's going to walk back his efforts

2:17

at Doge to maybe just two days a week,

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one to two days a week starting in May.

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So Elon Musk says there's still work to

2:25

be done, but the groundwork has been set

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and that he's going to spend more time

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at Tesla starting in May. We didn't

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really actually get a big company update

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after that. everything else fell mostly

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in line. However, we did get a little

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bit more color on this idea about, hey,

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what about new models? You know, we keep

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getting this talk about new, more

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affordable models. And if you look right

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here, this is the snippet that you want

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to pay attention to when we're talking

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about these newer uh models of vehicles.

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And so what we see here is this phrase,

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plans for new vehicles, including more

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affordable models, remain on track for

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the start of production in the first

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half of 2025. Now, what I wrote up here

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in gibberish is, okay, wait a minute,

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new vehicles could be cyber cab, and

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then including more affordable models

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could really just be stripped down

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versions of existing models. And then

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what I wrote is like, could somebody

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just give us more freaking clarity?

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Like, tell us what you mean. So they

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don't do that in this document, but they

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did in the earnings call. See in the

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document they said, "Hey, our goal is to

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just to get to basically full capacity

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of our existing manufacturing lines."

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Now, this is really important because

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they're saying, "Look, you know, we

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realize we are not fully using all of

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our manufacturing lines. In other words,

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we could produce more vehicles than we

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are today." And so, we want to get to

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100% functionality. And so, or or

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productivity, I should say, would be a

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better way to put it, right? Output 100%

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productivity. So their phrase is quote,

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"We are focused on

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affordability. We're focused on people's

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monthly payment because that leads to

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more vehicles and therefore quote new

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models will resemble in form and shape

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the existing cars we make, but the cars

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will be more affordable." Quote, "We are

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limited on using existing manufacturing

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lines with different form factors."

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Okay. In English, yes. what we've been

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concerned as a likely reality over the

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last 18 months, which it's good and bad,

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right? But we've been concerned that

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this idea about a new car coming is

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really just going to end up being a

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paired down Model 3, paired down Model

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Y, or cheaper Cybert trucks. And that

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sounds like it's exactly what we're

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getting. Now, that's not necessarily

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bad. From an efficiency point of view,

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this is totally logical. But from a

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hopium point of view, some people were

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going to be disappointed by this because

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there was hope that if we have a new

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car, there'll be some new sizzle or some

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new stake that we could sell and we

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could get to more vehicle production.

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Instead, Tesla's basically saying, "Nah,

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we're going to use the same platforms

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that we have. We're just going to figure

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out how to pair them down more so we

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could sell them more cheaply." Now this

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is slightly problematic because margin

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is already getting compressed as they

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said in their earnings call and in their

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press release that tariffs will affect

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their business more so the energy

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business than the vehicle business but

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also the vehicle business know that just

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5% of lithium ion battery production

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comes from the North America 84% comes

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from China and so when it comes to the

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trade war they see more of an impact on

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their energy side which is also very

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battery dependent which we'll talk about

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Nphase a a little bit later in this

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video, but it's worth noting when you

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compare the production of of uh you know

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batteries between Tesla and Nphase, it's

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not even close. Like NPhase blow or

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sorry um Tesla blows NPhase absolutely

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out of the water uh in terms of battery

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production. Tesla output over 10 gawatt

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of battery production whereas uh and you

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know that's Tesla right over 10

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gigawatts. Just want to make sure I'm

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saying that right. And Nphase only

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produced about 44 megawws, which if you

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divide those into each other and

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convert, Tesla's doing 236 times the

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battery production of Nphase. It's it's

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a huge huge number of battery production

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that Tesla is doing. And this is really

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important because batteries have good

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margins. Uh and unfortunately, the

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tariffs are hitting those margins for

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Tesla. So, not great. Now, that said,

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margins for energy were great this

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quarter at Tesla. We had uh energy

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margins at 28.7%. That was above

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expectations for the first quarter.

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Although they kind of asterisk that by

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saying that energy income's going to be

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very volatile. There's also a point in

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the uh slide deck where you get Elon

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Musk suggest or presumably Elon Musk

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suggesting but we don't know. Uh we have

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this suggestion. I'll show it to you

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right here. Uh here it is. The rate of

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growth this year will depend on a

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variety of factors including the rate uh

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of the acceleration of our autonomy

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efforts, the production ramp of the

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macro environment, and we will revisit

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our 2025 guidance for Q2 or in Q2. In

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other words, you know, is this sort of

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Elon saying like, hey, we'll have a

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better idea of where tariffs land by

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July because maybe a lot of the tariff

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drama will be over by then. I don't

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know. May maybe that's too optimistic to

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look at it that way, but I do think it's

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kind of interesting that they specified

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the second quarter and Elon is an

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insider in the White House. In addition

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to this, we have automotive margin X

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credits at just 12.5% that was a miss.

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Uh and automotive margin with credits at

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16.3% which was a slight beat over the

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16.1 expected. Tesla's got plenty of

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cash. This is the balance sheet. You

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really when you're looking at Tesla, I

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know a lot of people are going to poo

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poo these numbers here, but they have a

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lot of money. They're not going anywhere

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anytime soon. And you kind of have to

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look at the money that they have and

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respect it and go, "All right, I mean,

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this is still pretty damn good." They've

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got $40.7 billion of available cash. In

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fairness, they have a stack of bills on

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their desk of 26.5 billion. They have

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$16.2 billion of long-term debt, which

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means if I just subtract the cash they

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have from the bills they have, they have

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14.2 2 billion of free cash just this

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year available. On top of that, they

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have another 11 billion of inventories.

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So, as they start, you know, selling

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vehicles, they increase their cash flow

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and they can pay off their bills or

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whatever, right? So, they've got plenty

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of cash. And even though their cash flow

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isn't as great as it used to be, their

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cash flow coming in at just over $600

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million. The expectation was for it to

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be over a billion dollars. They're still

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producing cash flow on top of this cash

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pile that they have. So, they've got a

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lot of cash. And yes, free cash flow was

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low this quarter, but they themselves

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say we have sufficient liquidity. And

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this is actually good because people

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were concerned that Tesla might want to

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like issue shares to invest in XAI or

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something. There were some crazy rumors

8:53

about this beforehand. A bigger problem

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I would say is net income. You know,

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Tesla's net income was not very good

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this quarter and I'm very curious to see

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how Wall Street analysts are going to

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treat this net income. There's also some

9:06

rumor mill that and this could be true

9:08

that because we did last quarter we

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recognized Bitcoin gains as part of our

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net income. And I I I haven't had time

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to get to the bottom of this yet, but

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there's a possibility that Bitcoin

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losses were not included this time. I'm

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wondering if that's because now we're in

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a quarterly report and the last report

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was an annual report. I I don't know.

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Either way, I don't really care because

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I care about the core of the business.

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And the core of the business h it had it

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did have some problems. Okay, it we we

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had some problems. First of all,

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automotive revenues were down 31%. Okay,

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that's that's a big hit. Now, yes, we

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went from Q4 to Q1, but that's still a

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pretty big hit. Yes, some of that is

9:47

because of the Model Y revamp Juniper,

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but a lot of it is probably brand damage

9:51

and just selling cars for less. Although

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the Model Y Juniper led to, you know, a

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higher average selling price because of

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Juniper, so that helps. But you're still

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cutting prices across the board. You

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know, even on the Cybertruck now out for

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what, $69,000, you could get a long

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range Cy Cybertruck. I have the

10:08

Cybertruck, the fast one. Honestly, I I

10:10

I never Trump on it, so I would probably

10:13

just get the regular one, and you

10:14

basically get the same vehicle. Uh, and

10:16

you save what, $30,000. That's probably

10:19

a good deal. Anyway, uh we can see that

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their margin on energy was good, but

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their gross profit overall here in this

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red highlight collapsed

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25%. Which isn't great. That's again

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mostly because their automotive

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revenues, their topline fell. This is

10:35

why you have to put your business hat on

10:36

when it comes to Tesla. This is why

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Tesla is telling us, "Hey, um we're

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going to focus on actually manufacturing

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as many freaking cars as we can." And

10:45

honestly, I'm bullish about hearing

10:47

that. Like fine, no new model, fine, but

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get more vehicles out. In fact, I've

10:52

been pounding my fists on the table

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saying just make more cars. Like we

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should be saturating the world with FSD

10:59

and more cars. Like even if you have to

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lower the price of FSD, make more cars

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because that increases the network

11:05

effects of Tesla. More people buying

11:07

Tes, you know, Tesla solar, more people

11:09

buying Tesla batteries, more people

11:11

talking up FSD, more people minimizing

11:13

the brand damage of Tesla and defending

11:15

Tesla. uh you know more people

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supporting uh Optimus or buying the

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stock or or believing in the company or

11:21

whatever because they're users of the

11:22

product. This is a good thing. This is

11:25

why you know when like you know I've

11:27

I've done just real estate analysis as

11:29

an example just as a comparison on on my

11:31

YouTube channel for years and I I I

11:33

don't think it's a surprise that when

11:35

you know I'm like hey we're starting a

11:36

real estate company that you can invest

11:38

in people are like oh yeah I like I I

11:40

know the work Kevin does. I want to be a

11:42

part of that. It's the same thing for

11:43

Tesla, right? The more people you have

11:45

inside the company, the more people are

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willing to invest in the company and in

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the stock. And so, I actually think this

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is a good strategy of moving to full

11:53

production and getting back to vehicle

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growth. Let's get to 3 million vehicles

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produced. Let's stay away from this 1.9

11:59

million nonsense being stuck in the

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schlog. Now, we're going to talk about

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Optimus and some of this excitement in

12:05

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this sheet over

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here, Tesla is, you know, there is

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obviously a huge amount of hope priced

12:54

into Tesla right now. We know that this

12:56

idea that we only generated $399 million

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of net income in the face of an estimate

13:02

of $1.13 billion is a big problem. It's

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not good. You have a collapse of net

13:09

income. Last year, you had 34 cents of

13:11

earnings in this quarter. Now you're

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down at 13. So, not good. Your net

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margin, like this, this 3.99, if you

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divide this by the revenues they had,

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you're only at 2% margin. And if you add

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research and development back, you're,

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you know, somewhere at a 9.3% net

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margin, which is a low margin business.

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It's not good. So then the question is

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if you produce more cars at, you know,

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and you get more volume, but you're

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doing it at a lower cost with these

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newer models that are going to be the

13:38

same form factor, are you actually going

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to increase this net income? We don't

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know. Now hopefully we could do it with

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Optimus, right? Because see the thing

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about Optimus is Elon says, "Hey, maybe

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we can produce a million Optimus robots

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by 2030, maybe even 2029." Okay. Well,

13:53

so really quick math at $25,000 per

13:56

Optimus robot, a 30% margin because

13:59

hopefully it would include the FSD,

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basically the AI brain, that generates

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about $7.5 billion per year of income

14:05

before taxes, which would be roughly

14:07

double our 2025 estimated profits alone.

14:10

This would be great. But then when you

14:12

look at what Wall Street's already

14:14

estimating for for Tesla, Wall Street's

14:16

already pricing in an explosion in net

14:19

income by 2029. Net income for 2025 is

14:22

supposed to be $9 billion. Wall Street's

14:24

already assuming net income is going to

14:27

more than 3x to $29 billion by 2029. So

14:31

Wall Street's definitely pricing in some

14:34

level of either margin expansion, energy

14:38

sales expansion, certainly energy

14:39

expansions built into there, but not

14:41

that much, not $20 billion worth. uh and

14:43

then some sort of revenue for Optimus

14:45

and uh uh and and robo taxis which uh

14:49

Elon Musk does suggest we're still going

14:50

to see robo taxis uh launched in Austin

14:54

as a trial this June. Then he revises

14:56

that to say late June, early July. So

14:59

we're getting a little bit of a

15:00

potential delay here. And he says that

15:03

unsupervised uh uh FSD would come to

15:06

vehicles by the end of this year in

15:08

select cities when in the last earnings

15:10

call he said by summer for Texas and

15:12

California. So we're seeing some delay

15:15

uh about a six-month delay on

15:16

unsupervised FSD and about a one-mon

15:18

delay potentially on robo taxi. That's

15:21

that could be worse. Okay, not trying to

15:23

defend Elon with his bad timing, but I'm

15:25

just saying that could be worse. You

15:27

know, one month delay even on the robo

15:29

taxis isn't too terrible. So then in

15:31

fairness, if you do look at the

15:32

automotive credits, which Tesla's still

15:34

getting for manufacturing and customers

15:36

were still getting for EV tax credits

15:38

before Trump's tax plan, without the

15:40

automotive tax credits, Tesla would have

15:42

lost money. They had $595 million of

15:45

automotive credits. So keep that in

15:46

mind. That's a problem. Supercharger

15:48

growth only grew by 17% on the low side

15:51

for really expanding this EV network. Uh

15:54

and uh 10.4 gawatt hours of deployed Q1

15:57

energy battery packs, storage packs.

15:59

It's actually pretty good. That's

16:01

actually pretty bullish coming from Q4

16:03

because, you know, Q4 is usually where

16:04

people deploy this stuff. So, I thought

16:06

that was pretty actually good. Uh, now,

16:09

as far as this uh this talk about, uh,

16:12

you know, the the um tariffs, he says

16:16

that Elon Musk says he's, you know, pro-

16:18

free trade or no tariffs for greater

16:20

prosperity, but tariffs are a decision

16:22

that the president comes up with. It's

16:24

not up to him. So, they're going to work

16:25

to localize their supply chains. But

16:27

there's some challenges because a lot of

16:29

their supply chains localized in North

16:31

America rely on Canada and Mexico. 85%

16:34

of that roughly fortunately USMCA

16:36

compliant which is a good thing. Mostly

16:38

exempt from tariffs right now mostly. Uh

16:41

but then they do also rely on China for

16:42

things like critical minerals which is

16:44

uh you know certainly a sore spot right

16:46

now especially since China is asking

16:48

Tesla hey you know for these critical

16:50

minerals you need in your robots your

16:51

Optimus robots are any of these going to

16:53

be used in military purposes? It just

16:55

shows you how much power China actually

16:57

has. Obviously the answer is no, but it

16:59

shows the power China has even over

17:01

Tesla right now. Uh which is somewhat

17:03

challenging. Now uh what we also find is

17:07

uh this this idea of

17:11

uh how many autonomous vehicles might we

17:14

get by July or June, whatever. Elon says

17:17

about 10 to 20 and we're still planning

17:18

on releasing those this year. Uh but the

17:21

big focus right now is full utilization

17:23

of our factories this year. That's the

17:25

big goal. Uh Elon talks about being

17:27

ridiculously vertically integrated. Uh

17:29

we're going to be the most valuable

17:30

company in the world. The problem is

17:32

when you manufacture a new product like

17:33

Optimus, which is still a development

17:35

product. It's uh complex to manufacture

17:38

and it's going to take a while to scale

17:39

it. You know, talk to us next year

17:41

basically on that. So this gives us you

17:43

an overview of Tesla. I think most of

17:45

Tesla's bounce in the after hours was

17:47

really more Trump driven and trade hope

17:50

driven than it was actual numbers driven

17:52

because if you think about it the

17:54

company update we didn't get a new model

17:56

announced we actually got the opposite

17:57

we got no new car announced we missed on

18:00

basically every single metric with the

18:02

exception of one set of margin you know

18:03

EPS guy like all this stuff was a miss

18:06

it was bad uh we didn't get again a new

18:09

model we got this talk about Elon maybe

18:11

coming back next month uh but you know

18:14

then again like does how much does that

18:16

fundamentally change the business model

18:17

if he's still working at Doge one to two

18:19

days a week I don't know so most of the

18:22

runup we're seeing right now I'm going

18:24

to attribute to Trump not so much these

18:26

earnings however there is also the

18:28

possibility that people are just looking

18:29

at these Tesla earnings and they're like

18:31

all right the worst is now over now I

18:33

don't know that the worst is now over

18:35

but it could be that people are like all

18:37

right terrible quarter behind us now we

18:40

could buy the dip that's also possible

18:42

now I'm going to briefly do end phase

18:44

Nphase. Uh, okay. Look, minimal impact

18:47

for micro inverters. They do most of

18:48

their micro inverters in America because

18:50

of the tax credits they get from the

18:52

inflation reduction act. Big dollar.

18:54

Unfortunately, much like Tesla, they

18:56

source a lot of their batteries from

18:57

China and that's going to hurt their

18:59

margin by 6 to 8% on gross margin uh

19:02

between like well really until the third

19:04

quarter and then they're going to start

19:05

working on switching to other countries.

19:07

They didn't say which. I guessed South

19:09

Korea and then later in their earnings

19:11

call they suggested South Korea as a

19:13

potential. This is not a surprise. Just

19:16

think Samsung. Okay, this this is not a

19:17

you know big brain move here. This is

19:19

kind of obvious. Uh so they're looking

19:21

at lower tariff alternatives. But Nphase

19:24

missed across the board really as well.

19:26

Their estimate for revenue was 377 mil.

19:28

They came in at 360 4.5% miss on the

19:31

guide. Their margin came in at 455

19:33

versus 49.8 expected. their adjusted EPS

19:36

missed at 68 cents versus 73. Basically

19:39

missed across the board. Basically,

19:40

don't buy NPhase until the Federal

19:42

Reserve panics and cuts rates. That's my

19:44

take. Uh however, their balance sheet

19:46

still looks pretty good, which makes

19:47

them a cheap deal right now to maybe

19:49

start thinking about as we get into a

19:51

rate cut environment. 1.5 billion of

19:53

cash, $960 million of bills, plus about

19:56

600 million in long-term debt. They

19:58

could basically use 100% of their cash

20:00

to pay off 100% of their debt. They're p

20:02

cash flow positive slightly about 34 mil

20:04

a quarter. So I don't see a high

20:06

bankruptcy risk here. Obviously their

20:09

stock will probably just continue to go

20:10

down on the weight of tariffs and high

20:13

interest rates which hurt solar

20:14

adoption. So this gives you a full

20:16

breakdown of everything. If you found

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20:45

to call it, uh was coreweave. We thought

20:47

it would go to $40 and it's at $40 now

20:50

from 35 is a really big move. So, uh

20:53

this would have been an easy one to make

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21:10

good luck. Why not advertise these

21:11

things that you told us here? I feel

21:13

like nobody else knows about this. We'll

21:14

we'll try a little advertising and see

21:16

how it goes. Congratulations, man. You

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have done so much. People love you.

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People look up to you. Kevin Praath

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