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Coming Hyperinflation & the Debt Ceiling Disaster.

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hey everyone meet kevin here earlier i

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made a video where i talked about how

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historically after 700 years of studying

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pandemics

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we tend to see that natural interest

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rates and inflation come down

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and this is the exact opposite response

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of what happens after wars

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in fact in both cases wages go up

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but rates in inflation tends to trend

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lower

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much lower in fact after pandemics

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but not immediately after pandemics more

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like 5 to

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20 years after pandemics and continue to

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remain low

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for up to 40 years after pandemics a lot

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of the calm well i shouldn't say a lot

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there were some comments with multiple

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upvotes in the comments section though

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wondering

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but kevin is this time different because

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we've printed

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more money than we have in the past and

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the study itself actually gives us an

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answer

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will more money printing at least the

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money printing that we have done now

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lead to an additional collapse or what

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kind of

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risks would we expect to our economy

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after the amount of money printing that

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we have done

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to bail ourselves out of this pandemic

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and what's worse

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printing money after a pandemic or

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printing money after a war

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first it's worth noting that fiat has

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been around

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for hundreds of years and every fiat

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that has ever existed before has

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essentially collapsed and gotten

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destroyed at some point so

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the dollar's days are probably numbered

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but those days

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might be many years out and by many

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years

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i mean potentially more than our

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lifetimes now

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i don't know i don't personally foresee

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a massive dollar collapse within the

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near future

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but hey that's me taking a stand and i

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don't know but i tell you

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i'll be the first to tell you if i see

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the cracks unfolding and i'm always

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looking for cracks

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and there are some things that are

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slightly concerning in our market right

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now

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specifically with how much debt has been

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pre how much money has been printed

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most measures of why we have too much

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debt

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or most or i should say the most

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commonly referenced measure

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when it comes to why we have too much

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debt is the percentage of debt that we

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have to gdp

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and if you want to look this up tape

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this into google st louis

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fred like the name fred and then type in

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debt

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to gdp usa and i'll show you exactly

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what you're going to get and we're

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looking to look at it here together

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all right we're going to go ahead and

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scroll over here federal debt total

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public debt as a percentage of gross

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domestic product

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so the sum of all goods and services

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transacted

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in our country and as you can see our

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total debt is at a current percentage of

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about

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127 percent of gdp

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this is extremely high in fact this

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chart does not go back as far as

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well ideally it would but the last time

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we had debt this high was right after

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world war

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ii and this is actually a really

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interesting reference

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because after or during a war you would

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expect that a lot of money would be

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printed so that we can sustain

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a war fight we print money we use that

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to fund a war now the mechanics of that

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aside

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we end up with a lot of debt to gdp

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over time that can what we like to say

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inflate away that is that old debt

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becomes much less

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valuable over time as long as the

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economy is growing

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faster than the than the rate of growth

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of our debt

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and that's exactly what happened after

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world war two in fact after world war ii

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we never paid off our wartime debt today

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we still technically have some leftover

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wartime debt

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but it just became increasingly

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irrelevant because you could see even

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the amount of debt that we had

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in the 1970s this drop in the bucket

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compared to the amount of debt that we

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have

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now and numerically this number has

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exploded as well

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because well right now our economy

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is way larger than what it used to be

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back in the 70s or the 50s or the 60s

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and so obviously having a debt to gdp of

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about 127

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is really really high and so the federal

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reserve tells us hey well what we should

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focus on now because yes our debt to gdp

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is so high

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what we should focus on instead is our

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total

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debt payments as a percentage

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of gdp instead and this gives a little

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bit more of a perspective of

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oh okay so how much are we actually

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spending

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on all this debt that we have because

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interest rates are lower

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and so what this means is in 1960 for

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example

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we spent 1.28 of our gdp

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on debt so for example if i type in

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0.00128

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times 550 billion dollars

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that means we spent about 7.04

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billion dollars on servicing our debt

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in 1960 that's just a quick way

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to do the math on this and as you can

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see even though

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our total debt has ballooned like crazy

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we're actually at a relative low in

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terms of how much of our gdp

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we're spending on servicing our debt in

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fact we had

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much larger debt loads in the 1980s

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through about 95. we had a much larger

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debt service payment because interest

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rates were higher back then

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and our debt therefore was more of a

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burden to us

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relative to our gdp so maybe the federal

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reserve is right

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maybe our debt is not so horribly

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unsustainable because

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our interest rate payments aren't that

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terrible right now now

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some like to say this is just the

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federal reserve redefining how things

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actually work

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and we shouldn't be playing the game

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like this at all we should just be

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focusing on

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this chart right here which is a lot

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more scary uh and so i suppose it

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depends on which side of the aisle

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you're on

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in terms of what you want to argue i i

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personally look at both of these factors

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and i go okay yeah look

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this is unsustainable right but we did

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go into a pandemic

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and keynesian economics would call for

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lots of money printing during a pandemic

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so this is pretty typical

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and the fact that interest rates are low

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is good but the issue is then what

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happens when interest rates start going

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up but consider this even if our debt

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payments doubled the amount of debt that

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we have paid doubled

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we'd still only be at roughly 1992

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levels

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so we've been there before in terms of

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uh paying that much debt as a percentage

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of our gdp

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so these are two important graphs to pay

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attention and the good news is this is

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slowly ticking down again and hopefully

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it doesn't keep skyrocketing to the moon

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obviously we'll see what ends up

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happening with the amount of stimulus

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that ends up getting

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injected via the next stimulus packages

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that could obviously lead to another

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spike over here which will lead to some

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heart palpitations

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but what is that same study that we

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referred to earlier say about this

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because they actually talked about this

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as well take a look at this

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debt sustainability well the short

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run fallout from pandemics looks similar

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to other economic disasters

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large and sudden declines in economic

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activity the medium to long-run economic

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consequences after a pandemic are

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staggeringly

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difficult as sorry different as we have

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shown that is pandemics remember

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that natural rate of interest goes down

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substantially and these differences

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matter for policy makers

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in any abrupt shutdown or downturn the

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textbook response is to either

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borrow to smooth the shock or to pursue

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aggressive stimulative fiscal policy

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to counter the shock we had both of

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these borrowing

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and stimulus right both will likely lead

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to a rapid buildup of public

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debt correct we did see that however the

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sustainability of such debt

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depends crucially on the type of

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economic disaster confronted

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and this chart is actually really useful

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because what this chart right here tells

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us

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is it tells us the natural rate line

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of of what the natural interest rate is

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in the economy

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minus the growth rate so if we have lots

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of growth

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after a pandemic the blue line we and

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the growth is greater than what our

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interest rates are

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then we'll have less of a debt burden

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because we're growing more than our

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debts are growing right

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and this particular research indicates

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that generally after

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pandemics you might start with a little

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bit more burden of debt

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but that actually lowers as your economy

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begins to grow again

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which is quite the opposite of what you

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see after wars

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so this is why comparing to world war ii

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is actually quite different than when

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you compare to other pandemics

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now i'll go back over here to look at

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the way they worded the conclusion

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because it's a little bit different

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all right so they say here if this

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difference becomes more negative

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it is easier to sustain higher levels of

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debt in other words

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the more down that line was which the

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blue line was down for pandemics

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the easier the debt is to sustain so in

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other words ward debt

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is worse pandemic debt better as they

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say

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once again we see that pandemics and

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wars have different consequences in

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respect to this as well

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uh figure 3d which we just showed shows

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that in the aftermath of pandemics

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r minus g becomes slightly negative by

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about 50 basis points around the 20-year

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mark

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where before returning back to

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equilibrium which would be as if the

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pandemic never happened

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anyway so this to me is really

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interesting because

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now if you haven't watched the first

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video i encourage you to watch that

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because that was a really good one too

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and i know this is more detailed which i

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like going into the details

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those of you in my courses you know that

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you know it's like oh man

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now we're get we're gonna actually learn

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some crap here that's that's why i like

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doing my courses and that's why i love

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them so much

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but anyway uh yeah this is actually

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really interesting because it tells us

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look

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first of all our debt as a percentage of

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gdp

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in terms of our payments uh is not that

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high it's not as high as it has been in

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the past

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debt as a percentage of gdp in total is

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is very very high it's a scary graph

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right

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but when we frame it properly with what

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interest rates are and we frame it with

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regard to

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how pandemics usually respond to debt

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sustainability

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i actually don't believe that the amount

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of money printing we've done

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is horribly bad

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i think it's potentially excessive

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i think if we kept printing it would

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quickly become

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excessive like we're not on a

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sustainable path in my opinion

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i think if we printed what we did and

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we're done you know maybe we even you

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know

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stopped now like no more that that's

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okay

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you know do i think we can squeeze

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another four trillion dollar stimulus

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package in

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you know that that's when things start

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getting a little bit more blurry

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so we'll see not trying to get political

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i'm just saying like

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we see how the market's responding we

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see how uh the economy is functioning at

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the moment with the amount of debt that

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we've already acquired

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and we have some history to help guide

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us i don't know about

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loading on too much more though at this

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point but anyway

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uh hopefully this provides you a little

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bit of insight on uh deaths

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and uh hopefully a suashin whatever

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some fears they might have anyway i'ma

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go now thank you so much for watching

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and we'll see you next time bye

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