Binance HUMILIATED | Massive Crypto Arrest.
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well folks we just had another big
crypto arrest uh do Quan was interested
in the month
on his way to you guessed it Dubai and
CNBC just released a massive hit piece
on finance yikes let's talk about both
of those so first of all duquan is the
founder of Terra Luna which is a
complete disaster that many say started
the crypto collapse that we are now well
enjoying dare I say some actually like
that word enjoy because you see it as a
by the dip opportunity on ethereum and
BTC but Tara Luna's collapse led to the
collapse of three arrows Capital which
led to the cops of Voyager digital which
led to the collapse of Celsius which led
to the collapse of block five which led
to the collapse of FTX it's all a
connected disaster it was a Domino's a
Domino's disaster
not pizza disaster dominoes falling
disaster so do Quan uh has been fleeing
from South Korean prosecutors who have
put out have basically been on a on a
hunt for this guy and they finally found
him because for some reason he actually
thought it would be a good idea to try
to get on a plane somehow he made it all
the way to Montenegro which is in
Southeastern Europe it's over there by
like Croatia but instead of staying by
land he decided to go into
an airport
and then he tried to use fake Costa
Rican travel documents now there are
allegations that he has siphoned
billions of dollars from Terra Luna and
is and should have plenty of money to
actually get a high quality fake but
apparently he couldn't get a good
quality Costa Rican passport because he
got caught
immediately after he got caught the U.S
justice department filed charges against
him for fraud immediately as soon as he
was caught more charges were filed
against him now he was on his way to
Dubai why do people go to Dubai when it
comes to crypto which should be obvious
Dubai in the United Arab Emirates does
not have an extradition treaty he will
go to Dubai for two reasons one
low to no taxes
number two
no extradition treaties so if you're a
wanted criminal in America because you
made a lot of money by a fraud or
otherwise where do you go you go to
Dubai
where is our Cayman island-based Finance
located with CZ at the helm oh that's
right
Dubai yes also massive and many U.S
security uh charges against uh uh CZ of
Finance now every time I talk about CZ
people uh get very defensive of CZ I
have to give CZ credit they survived so
far they had a massive run at the end of
last year and so far they have survived
we just to catch you up to speed have
regularly found that a CZ likely
commingles uh the funding and
backstopping for multiple coins on the
finance platform that is when they tell
you hey all of our coins are backed one
to one what they're really saying is hey
if we have a pot of a billion dollars
and then we have three different coins
that all have a billion dollars of
assets underneath them
at any time if you take a snapshot
they're backed one to one because the
pot is backed one to one to this coin
and then one to one to this one and then
one to one to this one but they're never
all backed in it in their entirety at
the same time this is pretty obvious at
this point so if you hear from finance
that coins are back one to one probably
not in fact probably the same assets
that are sitting in quote seifu probably
the same assets that are basically
people's deposits that are backstopping
multiple other points so if everything
was facing some form of liquidation at
the same time
probably be running into some issues but
I have to say they were able to survive
what happened in December which is very
very impressive now though what is CNBC
telling us well CNBC has done
pretty interesting deep dive into
finance and this deep dive was actually
associated with the binance angels now
binance angels are apparently trained
volunteers they are potentially paid for
by binance but indirectly probably
through a blockchain based wallets that
make it very difficult to track how
people are actually getting paid but
Angels technically identify as Finance
employees but binance calls them
volunteers sort of like the community
monitor moderators and what these Angels
were caught doing by CNBC was basically
in a Discord server of about 220
000 users they were basically teaching
people how to get around the know your
customer rules in China and after all uh
well not just the know your customer
rules I should say in America but also
the fact that remember crypto has been
banned in China since 27 17 the
platforms have been banned since 2017
pretty much everything's been banned
since 2021 in China uh and uh CNBC did
an investigation looking into wait a
second here what do we have here we have
binance and these Finance Angels
teaching people how to circumvent the
Chinese rules for actually accessing uh
binance they go as far as suggesting
that Finance created an app that makes
it easy for you to circumvent the rules
so you could sign up for binance in
China not only do they recommend using
vpns based in the United States
Singapore Hong Kong or even Taiwan to
basically restrict or circumvent uh
these Chinese fans but they also
encourage you use overseas email
addresses when you sign up such as
Outlook Gmail or protonmail and if you
end up choosing China as a place of
residence just choose Taiwan while you
sign up so you can sign up and then
change it back to China afterwards so
you look like you're in compliance and
you never lied but you could sign up to
get through the gate via these ways
really what CNBC is alleging is that
basically uh Finance set up this uh this
this system of purposefully leaving
holes in their system so they could tell
China look we banned people see you
can't sign up if you click you're from
China but then leaving back doors open
that they can then teach their Finance
Angels how to teach people about and
then after they teach their binance
Angels about it they can tell the world
about it so people could actually sign
up for finance take a look at this this
was the CNBC piece it was actually a
phenomenal piece they mentioned here in
multiple different places uh well they
do multiple different interviews here
with different people talking about look
if I had an 8 out of 10 concern uh when
it comes to finance for a regulatory
perspective from a national security
perspective I have a 10 out of 10
concern a lot of people just call this
uh a fun right of course but but this
this is real uh so so what what's
happening Finance employees are
explicitly prohibited from supporting
users and circumventing their local laws
that's okay because you call angels
volunteers they're not employees they're
just volunteers so you have to kind of
read through the the uh read between the
lines so to speak to see how they're
talking basically out of both sides of
their mouths but anyway Finance has
stopped letting Chinese register with
their mobile phone so you can't use a
Chinese mobile phone uh and they're
trying to ban people from being able to
use vpns yet at the same time you have
these angels in a Chinese Discord server
saying basically use overseas emails use
vpns so that way you could sign up for
finance here in December 2022 a person
with the handle Stella was identified as
a finance Community manager explained
how people can use a specialized VPN
free domain name and download an app
which appears to be specifically
tailored for customers in mainland China
to use binance Services CNBC was
provided a link to this app from an
email address with a finance.com domain
a reporter was able download the app
from a location within China without a
VPN and register using a Chinese phone
number so even though binance is telling
you oh we don't take Chinese phone
numbers apparently you're able to sign
up with a Chinese phone numbers
apparently all the back doors are
basically wide open it's like
doors closed in the front wide open in
the back we'll show the Chinese
government the front we'll let you in
the back this is the kind of stuff that
happens over at finance a reporter uh
okay yeah let's see here uh the app is
hosted on tencent which offers a cloud
complete Computing software popular in
China and offers the ability to purchase
crypto uh using popular Chinese web apps
like a Wii app or sorry WeChat and
alipay uh now binance says we don't
offer uh any kind of Chinese specific
app there's only one official app sure
there is only maybe one official app but
you happen to offer another app that
lets people backdoor the rules and then
of course the Angels come to the defense
as well saying we don't speak on behalf
of Finance uh you know we're we're just
volunteers you know so they've really
been trained potentially in a process
that takes as long as a year to train
these angels uh and there's even a
hiring page according to binance this
page has since been deleted CNBC
actually talks about that in a moment
but apparently these angels go through a
separate training process that takes up
to a year and they're vetted trained and
deployed across binance's Telegram and
Discord groups operating under the
supervision of Finance employees and
they basically teach people how to
circumvent rules so you could sign up in
China uh saying things like oh don't
worry your proof of residence is not
required or if you're going to like
submit Chinese identification documents
don't worry just go ahead and claim to
be from Taiwan use your Chinese
identification and finance basically
just will turn a blind eye we just won't
look so that way we can bypass all this
stuff Finance reiterated that angels are
not employees it's just an ambassador
program don't worry and angels are
forbidden from sharing recommendations
that are against our policies or law of
course you're going to say that of
course of course CZ calls this very
Innovative yes it's very Innovative how
to skirt the law uh and basically you
have even been able in uh in Europe to
use a Visa a debit card created by
binance to let people turn their crypto
into Fiat for use anywhere Visa declined
to comment on the story uh anyway
basically the story goes on and on and
on CNBC asked binance to share
commentary on this and as soon as CNBC
asked Finance about these these this
evidence CNBC had guess what happened
hours after binance reported to CNBC
messages appeared on Twitter suggesting
that some customers Finance debit cards
had been frozen why was my binance card
Frozen and multiple of the websites that
showed hiring pages and Discord servers
were basically deleted so in other words
CNBC just caught Finance red-handed
again trying to skirt the law or dare I
say not trying to script the law but
actually skirting the law it's not a
surprise that's what binance does that's
what they've been doing that's why their
owner is in Dubai so we can't be held
subject to all the drama of Regulation
and in some sense can you blame them I
mean look at look at what coinbase is
going through coinbase is going through
our absolute freaking hell now let me
give you this okay I I know some people
are like oh Kevin you know just crypto
fighting or whatever I actually think to
some extent
CZ is doing this because they realize if
you try to do it the right way you're f
it ain't gonna happen anyway look at
what coinbase is going through coinbase
is going through absolute hell and back
to try to get just out of the sec's
crosshairs they want a way to get
registered with the SEC they want a way
to legitimately work with the SEC and
register their offerings but now the sac
sends a Wells notice to coinbase and
coinbase is like what the hell now we
have to go through even more lawsuits
and more problems now look I'm I'm not
an apologist for coinbase maybe they're
doing stuff wrong we don't know we'll
find out when the actual investigation
comes out right
and I'm also not a straight apologist
for the SEC although I do think that the
SEC is as we all know
the government is a bureaucratic
organization their hands are probably
Tied by Congress
ultimately and then it's a bureaucracy
not just within the SEC but also amongst
all the other agencies commodity and
future trading Association they don't
have a consistent message between them
and the SEC there's no coordination why
well probably it's because Congress
hasn't passed any kind of
authorization for them to do anything
now again I'm not trying to apologize
for the SEC just saying like Congress
needs to do something because until then
coinbase is going to keep complaining
about stuff like this look at this
coinbase has this massive blog post from
their legal counsel about how they got
this Wells notice and how they've been
trying that they're disappointed because
the SEC has been working with them
forever and coinbase says multiple times
been Pro and spending millions of
dollars trying to provide proposals to
the SEC about registration all of which
the SEC ultimately refuse to respond to
honestly I don't think the sac wants to
refuse to respond I think they look at
all the proposals and they're like
probably not a bad idea but guess what
we can't do anything anyway because we
don't have the Congressional authority
to do it so so people at the SEC who
probably pulling hair out of their heads
going like we have to follow our our
government mandated Mission uh which is
what Congress tells us to do and an
abiding Administration tell us to uh
which is you know protect the banking
system and and minimize fraud uh and so
what's everyone cracking down on well
crypto why because guess who was really
exposed to crypto Signature Bank in New
York and silvergate and guess what
started the freaking banking crisis
silvergate bank and signature so it's
it's all correlating when you have banks
that fail because of crypto
and those bank failures lead to more
bank failures like Silicon Valley bank
and then Credit Suisse and now
potentially Deutsche Bank well what do
you have you have the government and
people like you know Elizabeth Warren
pounding their piss on the table going
we need to protect the banking system
well all you're doing is amplifying
pressure on the SEC to put pressure on
crypto
and the more pressure goes on crypto the
more the the crypto companies and the
sec's crosshairs have to deal with this
stuff
that's why in my opinion coinbase has to
deal with this because of the banking
crisis CZ is registered or has binance
registered in in confusing entities in
the Cayman Islands and he lives in Dubai
because it's quite frankly now he
doesn't have to deal with all the
regulation no that doesn't mean he's not
a fraud he very well could be I don't
think all of his assets are backed one
to one I think their audits are bogus I
would not have a diamond binance would I
maybe use I mean I don't want to come
across as endorsing I'm certainly not
endorsing but if I was in a foreign
country and I'm like look I'm just going
to use binance to like fly coins and
then take them off wall like off
exchange rather and put them on a cold
storage wallet
maybe maybe that's my only choice to get
involved in crypto right especially if
I'm in a country where my currency is
being devalued like if I'm in Turkey I'm
like dude I'd rather get my paycheck and
throw it all into crypto I'll use
binance to throw all my money into
crypto and I'll be a lot safer from the
60 inflation we're experiencing in
Turkey so like if if you think about
this
can you really blame people
can you really blame people for putting
their money in crypto with all the
inflation that's happening in the world
especially in developing countries of
course not can you really blame people
for therefore using brokerages that
enable them to do that of course not can
you really blame the SEC when they're
getting all this pressure from Congress
because of the banking failure oh of
course not who can you blame well you
blame the people who were actually the
frauds and who had terrible risk
management procedures who led to these
collapses like three arrows capital and
FTX that's who you blame but guess what
everybody else now has to deal with the
consequences what you're basically doing
is you're socializing the pain that's
what's happening in crypto the pain is
being socialized so everybody who's left
in crypto who wasn't a scumbag has to
deal with the leftover paying and the
reality is that's probably coinbase
because they're publicly registered with
the SEC now being publicly registered
doesn't mean the SEC approves of
everything they're doing now they do say
that in here that hey you let us list
why did you let us list then well that
means nothing
that means nothing just because you you
sent your documents for review with the
SEC and the SEC is allowed to add
commentary so you add more disclosures
doesn't mean they approve of crypto
fortunately that's also confusing though
because like we said yesterday it's like
how could you potentially punish us for
something we don't even know is illegal
or that you don't even know is illegal
challenge but it's all because of the
spanking crisis and this bureaucratic
crisis that we're going through like I
don't really think with the exception of
people like sambang than freed and
potentially seizing I I don't know I
can't say that for sure about CZ
but you can say that for sure about
somebody like Sam Beckman freed
I don't know that individually
you know if you're involved in crypto or
you have a crypto company or or whatever
that that anyone is necessarily a fraud
we can't say that right I think
everybody's trying to do their best with
the information they have available and
we're just in a very frustrating time
for the cryptos ecosystem
and the stuff like the CNBC
investigation doesn't help but then
again like
you know people in China obviously
demand that just like there's a demand
in a Black Market there's a reason why
because people are trying to potentially
get their money out of China China
doesn't want to fly to Capital out of
China because all the money's going over
to like Hong Kong or Singapore because
people like get me out of the CCP
I don't know again I'm not trying to
apologize for everybody here I'm just
trying to provide perspective from every
point of view the point of view of a
citizen in China who's just trying to
you know have control of their own money
or the citizen of turkey who's trying
not to get inflated to death or the
bureaucrat working at the SEC who's
legit trying to do their best but they
can't because of all the red tape
or the people in Congress who are like
we should pass crypto regulation but
dude Congress ain't gonna do jack
over the next two years they ain't gonna
do anything over the next two years you
know I was in an interview yesterday uh
news interview yesterday with a TV
station
and they're asking me what do you think
is going to come out of this this Tick
Tock Banning thing I'm like nothing
congress is not going to do anything
over the next two years there's too many
politics involved
now would I invest in coinbase right now
hell no
uh and that's not well I mean I went
through their financials yesterday their
financials are terrible their financials
are absolutely horrible uh but beyond
that the regulatory disaster that you
would be walking into investing in
coinbase right now it doesn't make sense
it's not for me and look yes I am a
licensed financial advisor I run an
actively managed ETF I have courses on
building a rough you can learn about all
of those you can even click to what my
ETF is by going to meet kevin.com uh all
of these things just go to me kevin.com
you can see it it's not a secret it's
all there but this information is not
personalized Financial advice to you let
me just put it this way though when I
look at the coinbase fundamentals like
we did yesterday I get a little nervous
why do I get a little nervous well
because their revenues collapsed the
revenues nearly halved uh last year and
their operating expenses nearly doubled
last year why would I invest into that
it's very very risky especially in this
sort of regulatory regime now is that
necessarily Fair uh uh that coinbase has
to deal with sort of my criticism
because of Regulation
yes yes it is it's absolutely Fair
because the reality is you as an
investor have to be aware of the
headaches that they have to go through
now look I'll give them a positive note
okay yes they have about four billion
dollars at least of free cash that's
fantastic then uh uh they are losing
money right and their free cash flow is
is not that great uh and uh insiders are
selling coinbase uh but beyond that do
you have to look at the actual
fundamental business model they're just
not that good these people have about a
two-year Runway rate at about that 1.58
billion dollars in negative free cash
flow they have uh but beyond that if you
look over here you can see it their
revenues went down 4.2 billion dollars
while their expenses went up 1.7 billion
dollars and you've got the regular
service I can't touch them can't touch
them with a 10-foot Pole right now so
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quick follow-up on this apparently
binance is also now taking the move to
dump essentially one billion dollars of
B USD they're swapping it uh it for BTC
eth and BNB uh some say this is uh
because of one billion dollars of buying
pressure uh which kind of or will create
about one billion dollars of buying
pressure which which some say might have
led to a little bit of a temporary bump
uh in in the prices of uh BTC and eth a
lot of people have been seeing BTC pump
and they're like why is this happening
well potentially it was binance moving a
billion dollars of busd into BTC Ethan
BNB
now uh why did he potentially
pre-announce this that is why did CZ
pre-announce this well some people think
that uh binance pre-announcing this was
potentially a post announcement designed
to pump up their own uh stake so to
speak after they made their purchases so
think about this from a from sort of
just a cynical point of view you look at
this tweet you go given the changes in
stable coins and Banks binance we'll
convert the remaining of the one billion
dollar Industry Recovery initiative
funds from busd to Native crypto
including BTC BNB and eth some fun
movements will occur on chain today
transparency
okay right right some fun movements will
occur today okay interesting uh either
way the point is
you literally have the potential for uh
CZ to move markets with with his own
chatting on Twitter
uh and which makes sense because they
have a lot of capital but what they've
basically done is they've taken their
cash backing
and turned it into a now a market float
coin which which is pretty pretty
shocking they're going to convert a
stable coin which is supposed to be one
to one peg to the dollar so they say and
turning it into BTC B and B and E it's
the perfect sales pitch for the binance
token it's the perfect sales pitch for
eth and BTC it's the perfect amount of
buying pressure to potentially get a
rally moving whether whether they made
the transaction right after the Tweet or
at the tweet I mean we could look at the
chain history it doesn't so much matter
what matters is
it's essentially diluting The Recovery
Fund and creating more risk while
creating an ad for binance
kind of scary well at the same time uh
you know some are saying maybe busd
might come to an end since some of the
uh since the issuing bank for busd is
paxos and paxos is now getting sued by
the SEC another sec lawsuit the supply
of busd uh is is now uh basically only
able to go down redemptions are open but
you can't mint anymore busd coinbase
disabled trading for bib USD so
basically it's just like withdrawal only
uh you have this this uh this idea that
potentially
uh Banks and institutions are trying to
eliminate access uh to to these stable
coins at all uh binance being one of the
targets for them that's why paxos is
probably getting sued remember that
silvergate was the operator of the send
Network The silvergate Exchange Network
which ran 24 7 allowing those on and off
ramps from crypto to dollars but crypto
is basically getting debanked right now
likely for political reasons but this
debanking is also creating a d
stable coinization I totally just made
that up obviously but anyway it's
interesting because the more you
de-stable coin and the more you go to
these free float currencies like Bitcoin
and eth the more you actually
potentially are vulnerable to a shock
taking the whole system down
no it's unlikely that you know Bitcoin
and ethereum will actually go down
entirely but you could lead to
substantially more rapid panic in in the
pricing of of these coins and assets so
uh I don't know not not not great in my
opinion not not great
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