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*The BIGGEST* Bear at Morgan Stanley JUST Flip Flopped

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Morgan Stanley is a flip-flopping I

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would have not expected this not at all

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but Morgan Stanley's Mike Wilson the

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mega bear okay remember he's the guy who

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says stocks are going to hell the

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recession's gonna stop suck it's going

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to be way worse than you expect and

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basically anybody who's a bull right now

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is essentially sucking air on Mount

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Everest which is so oxygen depleted that

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clearly you're getting delusional

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because you're not able to think clearly

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because obviously the stock market's

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going down that's been Mike Wilson's

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argument and I remember I made a video

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about that amount Everest a piece that

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he put out and I thought it was so

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ludicrous I thought to myself holy

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smokes now the Bears are getting

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delusional in other words the Bears are

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starting to run out of crap to say about

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this economy because the reality is is

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the consumers and businesses have a lot

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more money than anybody previously

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thought and it's lasting a whole lot

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longer than anybody ever thought it

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would so yes while things are trending

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bad we seem to have more fuel in the gas

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to keep this plane flying for a lot

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longer than we thought a lot more fuel

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in the gas tank

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uh which would essentially coincide with

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this idea of well maybe the plane

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doesn't have to land yet and maybe we

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can be patient in getting inflation down

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before markets actually go into that

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sort of Mike Wilson recession but anyway

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my opinion aside Mike Wilson actually

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just changed his tune a little bit and

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I'd like to read you a quote take a

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listen to this

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Equity markets survived a crucial test

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of support last week that suggests this

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bear Market rally is not ready to end

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yet he specifically pointed out the Spy

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basically bouncing off of the SMA 200

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line which you could see that

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specifically here we've talked about it

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many a time before but here's your SMA

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uh 200 line your simple daily moving

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average and that 200 daily moving

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average showed you support at about 390

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we ended up getting to a low of about

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392 before bouncing off and closing at

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about 401 a pretty uh pretty pretty

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traumatic uh moves we've seen over here

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uh anyway I mean boy that is actually

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pretty dramatic I mean if you had a low

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of 392 and you ended up closing at 401

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what is that uh 401 divided by 392. okay

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yeah it's about a 2.2 percent swing from

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from previous low to to next state close

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that's not even next day high which was

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404 that's more like a three three and a

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half percent that's remarkable but

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anyway Mike Wilson is now calling this a

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short-term pivot he does however still

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reiterate that once the fundamentals

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deteriorate then the real pain will come

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he says this doesn't change the quote

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very poor risk reward ratio currently

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offered by many stocks

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given valuations and earnings forecasts

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that remain way too high in other words

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Mike Wilson is saying look people are

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just going to run out of money people

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are going to have money for for to

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sustain earnings anymore and then

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earnings are going to disappoint margins

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are going to disappoint and you're going

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to have a pretty nasty crash and that

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the real pain is still ahead of us

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that's the Mike Wilson point now he says

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the gap between reported earnings and

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cash flow a cash flow is the widest that

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it's been in 25 years driven by excess

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inventory and capitalized costs that

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have yet to be reflected in earnings per

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share so in other words

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when you spend a bunch of money but you

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capitalize it you basically spread the

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expenses over time and so when those

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spread expenses hit in the future when

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people finally stop spending as much

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money we're going to the hell is

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basically what Mike Wilson's trying to

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say and now he's trying to hedge his

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argument that everything's going to Hell

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by basically saying okay well fine maybe

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maybe the rally will last a little bit

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longer but don't worry the bear Market's

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coming I promise I think that's really

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interesting because yeah they've they've

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been you know Mike Wilson has been sort

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of a bear for quite a while now he was

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right about uh you know the bearishness

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that we saw last year but then again

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every bear was right last year at one

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point I spent two months as a pair I

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posted pictures of me skiing uh uh last

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January and it was basically just a

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picture of a bear with skis on the ski

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lift all alone a very sad lonely bear

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uh but what I always like to do is I try

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to look at some of the other information

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that we're getting from other analysts

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specifically even within Mike within

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Morgan Stanley I personally wonder if

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all these people at Morgan Stanley are

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in the same office and they've like put

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Mike Wilson in a corner and then you've

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got like the level-headed people on the

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main floor that are kind of like there's

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Mike again ah poor Mike like I I don't

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know I don't know and who knows maybe

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he'll end up being ripe but here's yet

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another piece from Morgan Stanley which

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is basically the opposite uh and what I

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thought was interesting about this one

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and I I try to read everything right I

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try to read the bear case and I tried to

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read the bull case and when I hear the

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Bears arguing that don't worry the pain

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will come and you must be on Mount

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Everest because the oxygen is getting

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thin it makes me think like dude you're

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running out of facts and when you're

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running out of facts to support the bear

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case the bear case is going to go away

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like so far people and businesses still

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have lots of money and and I think

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that's the big thing that everyone is

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missing is just I want to just grab them

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by the shoulders

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now on one hand that could be really bad

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because we could actually confirm a

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meaningful re-acceleration of inflation

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right if in January if the January

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numbers uh re-accelerate in or continue

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to prove and re-acceleration here in in

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February with the data we're getting in

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March we're screwed

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Mark Mike Wilson's gonna be right then

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okay and in fact look you already know

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this right you already know that coming

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up we have a jobs report on the 10th we

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got CPI on the 14th and then we get the

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FED on the 22nd you already know this

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but something that we haven't talked

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about before is that you should not pay

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attention specifically to those reports

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you know what you want to pay attention

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to you want to pay attention to the

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following

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the revisions I want you to look at the

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January revisions when this data comes

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out pay attention to the January

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revisions because here's the best case

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scenario in my opinion best case

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best case we get the Feb data the Feb

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data comes in slightly soft okay I mean

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the softer it is obviously the better

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but you want the FED data to come in

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soft but then you want the Jan data to

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be revised down because the Jan data was

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so ridiculous with seasonal adjustments

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I'm really hoping for revision down

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I just want to be really clear here

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before I keep going through this Morgan

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Stanley piece if the data for January

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gets revised down

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and you get soft February data I think

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we break through the next levels of

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support on the retracement levels for

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everything Bitcoin spy Tech Tesla I

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don't care what you're investing in AMC

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oh you know it's not my fault if you

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want to invest in bankrupt code I mean

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in AMC uh you know like it's all going

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up that would be great so

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revisions pay attention to those really

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really important but what's Morgan

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Stanley saying over here so Morgan

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Stanley suggests that hey in the coming

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weeks we'll get more data duh we know

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that but Morgan Stanley believes right

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now that the FED will only require two

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more

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price hikes or or interest rate hikes

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now that's interesting because we've

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really been talking about this idea of

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maybe a pause after March until that

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January data came out after that January

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data came out everybody's like oh crap

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yep we're going to end up seeing rates

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go up higher for longer and so now we're

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pricing in that uh that hike in um in

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may as well in fact if we look at

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Futures pricing we're about a 71 chance

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of getting a 25 BP hike oh wow that's

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actually bullish uh in a uh a 28 chance

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of a 50 BP hike now I think that's

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ludicrous I think there's almost no

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chance we get a 50 BP hike unless of

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course the data comes in like terribly

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bad the data would have to be so so bad

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for jobs and CPI to get a 50. because it

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would just shoot The fed's credibility

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and foot for what they have left and

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then when we look at May

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we're looking at probably a somewhere

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between a yeah it's about a 90 95 chance

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that we're gonna be up at five and a

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quarter to five and a half so yeah it's

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actually closer to like 97 but anyway

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pretty pretty much a foregone conclusion

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that by May we're gonna be at five and a

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quarter on the low end and uh 5.5 on the

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higher end that's that's essentially a

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foregone conclusion right uh so but

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anyway what do we have here so they talk

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about after these two more Cuts they

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think the FED will pause so they're

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setting this up to say that okay June

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pause and then March of of next year

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that's when they actually think you get

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your first cut and you're gonna start

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seeing 25 BP hikes or Cuts rather now

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this is pretty far out so what we've

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noticed is that everything has taken a

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lot longer than expected unfortunately

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uh and patience is really really

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important in this sort of Market but if

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this ends up playing out uh the way it's

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expected here as long as people continue

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to have money to spend between now and

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then

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yeah

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we could be okay in in a crazy way we

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could be okay to sustain this economy

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out of a recession it would be I'll tell

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you it like fate loves irony as Elon

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Musk always says it would be the most

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ironic thing to see that the most

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predicted recession

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and the steepest hiking cycle in in 40

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years

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does not end up turning into a recession

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yeah I that Jerome Powell will go down

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as an absolute hero now I've also been

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reading some fed papers and it's

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important to to remember because some

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people keep talking to me about like oh

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the fed's definitely going to rug pull

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us I'm like I don't know man the FED is

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pretty acutely aware

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of of the pain that their activity

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causes in fact let me get to the

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conclusion on this paper I was just

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reading this this morning here look at

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this my favorite line was actually right

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here where they said such policies uh in

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in other words if you okay so they talk

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about keeping rates for too low for too

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long blah blah but anyway if if you

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create the risks of financial crises

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uh then you want to avoid creating the

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risks of financial crises because of the

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social political and economic costs that

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come with them and I thought that was

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fascinating because it really shows sort

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of the fed's awareness this is a Fed

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paper by the way it shows the fed's uh

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awareness of of look you know if you

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tighten too hard people lose their jobs

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people go bankrupt you ruin businesses

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that potentially could have otherwise

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thrived so you really impact humans uh

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you you create misery and depression and

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increase suicides right like it's

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terrible to put people through a a nasty

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recession right this is the Fed

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themselves does not want to have to pull

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vulceros because the costs are too high

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it also hurts our standing of the US

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dollar and and then of course it hurts

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the long-term economic uh prosperity of

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America as well anywho continuing on

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here fed has made less progress towards

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disinflation than previously thought for

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any additional insight into the main

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meeting we would need to see the

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evidence that the re-acceleration is

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real this is basically saying look for

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us to even remotely think we're going to

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end up getting uh 50 BP we're going to

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have to somehow prove that oh yeah

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everything's re-accelerating and even if

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you look at Costco's earnings call from

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the second you're not look you're

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obviously seeing that prices have gone

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up uh but uh they're not meaningfully

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continuing in fact most companies even

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Costco aren't talking about more future

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uh you know hikes for wages instead what

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are they talking about they're talking

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about autonomy and efficiency I'll just

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read it to you because I'm not gonna I'm

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not making this up look at this

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notwithstanding the two to three

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off-season wage increases we had over

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the last 15 months

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uh we are our which has impacted some

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slight D leverage D leverage basically

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this gets a little complicated D

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leverage means basically their Opex and

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their cost of goods sold went up a

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little bit higher than the rate that

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Revenue increased so notwithstanding

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this information given that we've only

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slightly deleveraged is actually pretty

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impressive given that labor is our

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biggest expense so then what do they

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talk about they don't talk about more

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wage increases instead they talk about

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it's our productivity we're getting

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better at productivity and then over

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here you have an analyst that's saying

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so if compensation is rising six percent

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and inflation like nominal prices are

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going up six percent for goods but

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traffic is only up three percent then

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that means you should be seeing revenues

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down three percent right he's basically

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saying six and six

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with offset by three shouldn't be a

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negative three right and they're

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responding well people are spending more

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money on more expensive things so not

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necessarily uh in other words not simply

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price inflation it's mix now mix is a

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really important phrase to remember when

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you're talking about Finance because

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it's basically saying people are buying

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higher margin items at Costco rather

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than somewhere else so that's good

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that's a benefit to a car score that

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actually shows some level of pricing

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power that can increase average selling

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prices they're not actually just talking

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about increasing prices in fact when

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they're asked about the elasticity of

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price they say well we don't really

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analyze price elasticity we basically

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just focus on this if we lower prices we

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do more sales

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so I think it's really interesting

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because if you go through the earnings

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call and I'm just going to sum it up

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because it's a little Arcane but if I

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make it simple the simplest way to put

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it is Costco is telling you in my

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opinion basically the same thing that

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almost every other company is they're

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telling you look yeah we had to raise

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prices but you know what we're doing now

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we're focusing on the fact that if we

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want more Revenue we could lower prices

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if we want more margin we focus on

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productivity and automating that's

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really what you're seeing at almost

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every single company that I've been

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analyzing I'm trying to find where that

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automate here it is oh found it look at

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this uh so inflation has gone up we know

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that it's gone up in the past we know

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that and I think the focus now this is

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important now what are they focus on is

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trying to figure out how to do things

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more efficiently one of the things we do

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religiously every four weeks at the

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budget meeting is the operators are

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talking about certain Focus items

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whether it's improving overtime hours in

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other words cutting those or things

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we've done to automate something

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physically improving the flow of goods

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in the warehouse so what is pretty much

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everyone talking about everyone's

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talking about

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efficiency automating becoming more

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productive that's what everyone's

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talking about nobody's talking about hey

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we still got a lot more uh you know wage

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inflation to pass on we still got a lot

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more price increases ahead of us and if

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anything they're like yeah like if you

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want to increase Revenue we could just

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cut prices

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in my opinion that's actually very

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bullish and and that's it's very bullish

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because it shows even though we're going

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to go through some volatile hell over

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the next bit here it's very bullish

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because the last thing you want is

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evidence that companies are starting to

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make you think Paul volcker is coming

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right this is stuff we look at almost on

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a daily basis in our course member live

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but anyway to me this is fantastic this

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is very good it's also fantastic that uh

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Goldman Sachs for the first time ever

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has just turned bullish on Apple saying

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it has a 32 upside from here 199 dollar

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price Target they talk about apples

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widening and increasing install base

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basically leading to this moat of people

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not leaving Apple uh and uh really the

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more people the Venus fly trap in the

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better that was pretty interesting

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so uh we'll see we'll see uh but uh

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pretty excited about that uh you know I

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know I know some people here uh say

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things like Paul volcker can't save us

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either I I mean what I always respond to

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stuff like this is hey uh what evidence

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do you have like where where where is

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the bad because I'm I'm looking for it

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and people send it to me and then I make

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a video on it explaining how what they

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think is bad is actually not that bad

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you know that's all that's all like

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usually the bear argument is but but the

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prices are still up like 10 I'm like

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yeah no [ __ ]

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that's how inflation Works stuff gets

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more expensive

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done

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you know like uh it's it what's what

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matters is the stickiness of that right

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so

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um

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someone here writes Costco croissants

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are so good wow yeah you mean like in

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those the white clam shells that were

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the clear clam shells where you kind of

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get like that giant box right sup

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investment Joy what's up man

18:06

investment I love this guy uh I gotta

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come back to Chillicothe and visit you

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super curious what happens if rates hold

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with 32 trillion debt you can't tax your

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way out of a one trillion dollar Debt

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Service yeah here's here's the and it's

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it's totally understandable because

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central banks are losing money like hand

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over fist right now because the yields

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they're getting on their Investments are

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substantially lower than what they're

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having to pay out in the overnight repo

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facility and really what happens is

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that's where politicians sort of just

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basically write a blank check to to

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print more money and offset those losses

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now that sounds ironic because it's sort

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of like hey but if you print more money

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doesn't that create more inflation not

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necessarily if that money isn't being

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then circulated through the economy if

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it's just going to sort of potentially

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pay off this deficit that the FED has

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created uh and and the idea there is

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well well then won't people lose trust

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in the institution of America well yeah

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eventually I mean at some point in the

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long term every currency generally tends

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to go to zero because its government

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loses power power and Trust

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but in the near term I don't think it's

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likely that that's actually something

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that's going to you know sort of destroy

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our economy I think people have people

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are so much better off today in in

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aggregate not everyone obviously uh than

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they were before the pandemic that uh

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that that really uh once we get back to

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a normalized economy I don't think that

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uh markets will terribly care about the

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rejiggering that happens at the FED

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don't get me wrong there'll be some fun

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things that are going on over there but

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another thing to keep in mind too is

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that not uh every set of interest uh or

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or debt essentially the bond or the the

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our government has is uh attached to the

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interest rates that are being paid today

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right so you got two institutions you've

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got our government and you've got the

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fed the vet is paying money hand over

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Fists in the repo facility like they're

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losing money right the government has a

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lot of their debt uh that needs to roll

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into higher yielding debt and so it

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basically means the average interest

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paid is actually still very low for the

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for the U.S government in fact if you

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look at here we can look this up St

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Louis Fred

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uh debt payments as a percentage of GDP

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it's still lower than where we were in

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the 90s interest as a percentage of GDP

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all right so look at this this chart

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goes all the way back to the 1940s right

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so going back to the 1940s what do you

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have over here you actually have in the

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1990s our interest rate or or the

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interest we were paying as a percentage

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of GDP was basically around three

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percent so in other words we're paying

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three percent uh of our GDP towards

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interest right now we're only paying

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about 1.86 or roughly half

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of our GDP and interest now that is

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expected to go up but even if it goes

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back up to the 90s did we really have an

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economic Calamity in the 90s

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not really in fact many say to 1994 was

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really aligned with a soft Landing yeah

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you had a technical recession in 91 but

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it's not one ever ever taught anyone

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ever talks about because it's really not

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that big of a deal so uh I think that's

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pretty fascinating yeah so we'll see hey

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