My Favorite $50 Stock Today
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let's talk about digital advertising and
specifically some stocks that you might
be interested in as a potential
investment hashtag not personalized
Financial advice of course but as a
potential investment a lot of folks come
to me and say Kevin what do you think
about Disney what do you think about
Netflix and one of the concerns that I
have is both Netflix and Disney have an
extremely expensive cap X structure for
creating new content they spend a lot of
money on building Studios and producing
content and their goal is that they can
subsidize some of that content with
advertising however according to
Netflix's own earnings call they're not
seeing the kind of adoption for ad
supported Netflix streaming as they had
hoped and this in my opinion makes me
much more interested and rather than
potentially investing in the
quote-unquote gold of Digital streaming
it makes me much more interested in
actually investing in
advertising companies that might be
benefiting regardless of whether we're
heading into a recession or we're
heading into this sort of Uncertain
future for how we're going to monetize
Digital streaming after all we know a
lot of companies have told us we are
running into a lot of potential risk
when it comes to advertising American
Express and their earnings call told us
that businesses are spending less money
on Advertising Google told us that
advertising demand is flat to negative
for YouTube it's straight up and
negative for the last two years when you
look at meta you have warnings on
Advertising when you look at Amazon you
have warnings on Advertising advertising
across the board seems to be a risky
Venture right now and it makes sense I
mean we could look at some reports to
see just that add budgets here's a
report that suggests ad budgets are set
to slow even more in 2023 I believe this
was a Forbes report here
lower ad budgets in 2022 affected nearly
every ad stock including companies like
alphabet and meta and what's happening
here in this next year going forward
well look at some of the ad spending
First China according to Insider
intelligence will weigh heavily on the
2023 numbers as the second biggest
digital ad Market is expected to quote
post its lowest digital ad growth on
record due to tougher regulations and
economic headwinds U.S the U.S
advertising Market is expected to grow
by about 5.9 percent in aggregate in
2023 and that's lower than the nine
percent we saw in 2022 however look at
this
on a brighter note the article says the
connected TV Market is expected to grow
14.4 in 2023 and will grow faster than
the overall advertising Market linear TV
in exchange is expected to fall by 6.3
percent and 2023 according to uh this
individual from Pro well okay well I
mean this person it might be a little
biased he's a director of programming
CTV Supply at Xander 2023 marks the new
age of CTV yeah whatever okay that's way
too biased for me to really even have
read that but anyway the point is we
know that the ad sector is slowing
growth substantially we know that
expenses at Disney and Netflix are
through the roof for investments into
advertising so potentially where does it
make sense to invest well Arc invest is
a big fan of investing in Roku I
personally have some qualms about
investing in Roku and I'll show you
specifically why so first of all this
this is the last earning statement from
Roku and what you could see is that
first of all they're massively negative
on their device's revenue we know that
they don't actually make money from
their devices that's fine but what we do
notice is that you actually have seen
margins that Roku compress 500 basis
points year over year for the fourth
quarter and so now it's sort of like oh
dang like where you invest in the
advertising sector right it's tough
you've actually grown platform
advertising Revenue by four percent at
Roku now that's great fantastic Revenue
has grown by four percent at Roku but
for a company that's losing money that's
potentially not the greatest thing that
we want to be hearing that revenue is
only growing at four percent at Roku
it's trading like a growth stock yet
it's not really growing that much it's
growing by about four percent
not only is it growing by about four
percent uh year over year here but
you're seeing that margin compression
and an explosion in sales and marketing
if you look at the sales and marketing
line You'll see
297 million dollars spent on sales and
marketing 297 is an explosion of 82
percent they spend 82 percent more money
on sales and marketing to grow revenues
by four percent that's insane according
to Bloomberg revenues for Roku are
expected to remain negative through
2026. so you have an infinite p e ratio
for this company not only that if we
look at their current assets you're
sitting it you're decent you're sitting
decently at cash and cash equivalents of
about two billion dollars they've got
about 1.1 in current liabilities so
you've got maybe about 800 million
dollars of rough free cash but the price
problem is for the year ended 2022 this
company had negative free cash flow Roku
had negative free cash flow of 172
million dollars so yeah you've got a
little bit of a run rate right you've
got maybe three four years at this burn
rate of negative uh free cash flow
you've got the extra cash there at Roku
but you're paying a pretty high
evaluation for a company that's not
growing well at all four percent
increase in top line revenue while
spending 82 percent more on sales and
marketing kind of wild in my opinion now
that's just looking straight at the
shareholder letter you could also look
uh at some other sources uh and and see
basically the same thing being said but
a little bit differently here for
example and I know some people don't
like it but this is why I like going to
the sources myself but here for example
is Motley Fool and their opinion and
they usually are bullish it seem games
on a lot of things but not on Roku look
at what they had to say roku's audience
is still expanding but its margins are
crumbling its gross margins gross
margins that's different from the
margins that I talked about because I
specifically talked about streaming
margins where you get a 500 basis point
fall year over year this is their gross
margins combined falling about 190 to
over 40 to 42 in the fourth quarter
we're looking at again a slightly
different margins here uh the gross
margin of its platform business which
generates most of its revenues from the
integrated ads on Roku fell fell from
60.6 to 55.8 percent thanks to macro and
then of course their set-top boxes
margins also fell and so this sort of
begs the question where is Kevin liking
the advertising business well many of
you already know this and maybe you've
already said it out loud to me it's
obvious it's trade desk I've personally
been a big fan of investing in trade
desk this is their Q3 report let me grab
their Q4 report which is right here year
and take a look at why I like trade desk
so trade desk grew its sales and
marketing expenses by 28 so trade desk
grew sales and marketing by 28 year over
year and their year-over-year growth was
24 so rather than growing Revenue four
percent rev at Roku and spending 80
something percent more on marketing they
grew revenues 24 year over year while
only spending 28 percent more on sales
marketing
they also had that drop off on a stock
based comp for their GNA so you had a
larger net income this quarter but you
actually have growth now that growth is
slowing don't get me wrong it is a
slowing sector right you had growth that
slowed from 31.8 year over year to in
the last quarter just 24 growth so
growth is slowing it is that
recessionary pain that you are seeing
but you actually have a cash flowing
business not only is it cash flowing but
the company is performing substantial
BuyBacks because they've got plenty of
money to cover their payables and any of
the extra cash that they have along with
their free cash flow of 475 million
dollars for last year they are
performing stock BuyBacks which is great
so here's a company in my opinion that
if you're looking for something in the
advertising space that is basically
connected TV advertising trade desk is
the one that has all the pricing power
now think a little bit more about about
10 connect to TV for a moment connected
TV is nice because you're not facing the
Anti-Trust competition that maybe Google
or Facebook are experiencing connected
TV is actually driven by a new form of
cookie and this new form of cookie is
called uid2 now what's brilliant about
uid2 is it was actually created by trade
disk and I want to be clear okay maybe
I'm slightly biased I'm an investor in
trade desk okay but I want to explain
why people always ask me why and why
aren't you investing in Netflix or
Disney or Roku here's why uid 2 was
created by trade desk but they
purposefully made it open source in my
opinion because they're playing 4D Chess
With The Regulators they don't want the
Google problems where people you know
we've got these Anti-Trust concerns for
Google leading to a disaster with uh
with with potential Google advertising
in their basic uh advertising Monopoly
right uh and then that's because they
have like 90 percent sales side control
of the cell the the inventory for
advertising but uid too is is basically
different from third-party cookies but
it's somewhat similar in that basically
users provide consent to a publisher by
sharing their email address and then a
unique ID is created with that email
address Google has one that uses its uh
that's sort of a new cookie that uses
your phone number or your login ID when
you're logged in with Google to kind of
track you around but with uid2 it's sort
of the competitor to Google's versions
uid2 you're using email addresses to
create unique and encrypted IDs to make
sure that your data remains private but
as long as trade desk or some of these
connected TV platforms can capture about
10 to 15 percent of users they can
anonymously model data much better than
the old cookie system and the starting
to use AI to help model the data and
make sure that people are placing their
ads with the highest Roi and that's
where you're seeing declines in linear
TV advertising there's no doubt that
linear TV is going over to connect to TV
then it's just a matter of who's winning
and tradesk so far is one of the big
Winners they have something called the
KOA AI you could learn more about that
but basically it's really good at using
AI to find your best customers via
look-alike modeling and trying to take
the data that they do capture they use
uid2 to do this they learn a lot more
with uid2 the estimates are that the
trade desk framework it could basically
increase Roi or cpms by about 116
percent compared to some of the older
forms of cookies and really the fact
that ouid 2 is open source and it's
essentially a self-regulated platform
limits you from Anti-Trust complaints
you know a lot of other people like
Kevin why aren't you investing in Google
it's like well you're investing in
Google for advertising but advertising
is plummeting at Google you could try to
go for the hype of oh well it's sold off
maybe by the dip on Google because they
do have ai but you know other companies
have ai too and are actually making
money and and and are growing and this
to me is is hands down trade desk so
look yeah am I biased because I'm an
investor in it of course but I'm also
defending my position as to why why I
invest in trade desks now I'll give you
a quick uh valuation on trade desk uh
just really we'll do a quick little PEG
ratio here and then I've got to go to
the course member live stream I'm trying
to get that course member livestream
started a little bit earlier
uh regularly here but but I I keep
talking too much on this stream uh so we
are looking for at the end of 2023 to be
looking at about a one dollar EPS which
does mean that it's about a buck five
which does mean that right now at 55
bucks trade desk is trading a little
Rich at 52.3 times they are expected to
grow at about 30 to 35 percent let's go
conservative and take 52 divided by 30.
it puts you about up 1.73 times PEG
ratio for trade desk but that's my
thesis on trade desk a lot of people
have been asking about it and uh I
figured I'd uh I'd add some of my
opinion on that so uh but yeah otherwise
otherwise I'm not a big fan of the uh of
the um uh the the advertising space this
is really the only player I find
interesting and uh there you have it
thank you so much for watching
appreciate you coming to another meet
Kevin report hopping straight over to
the course member live stream now thank
you so much goodbye
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