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let's talk about digital advertising and

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specifically some stocks that you might

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be interested in as a potential

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investment hashtag not personalized

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Financial advice of course but as a

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potential investment a lot of folks come

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to me and say Kevin what do you think

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about Disney what do you think about

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Netflix and one of the concerns that I

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have is both Netflix and Disney have an

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extremely expensive cap X structure for

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creating new content they spend a lot of

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money on building Studios and producing

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content and their goal is that they can

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subsidize some of that content with

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advertising however according to

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Netflix's own earnings call they're not

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seeing the kind of adoption for ad

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supported Netflix streaming as they had

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hoped and this in my opinion makes me

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much more interested and rather than

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potentially investing in the

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quote-unquote gold of Digital streaming

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it makes me much more interested in

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actually investing in

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advertising companies that might be

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benefiting regardless of whether we're

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heading into a recession or we're

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heading into this sort of Uncertain

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future for how we're going to monetize

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Digital streaming after all we know a

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lot of companies have told us we are

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running into a lot of potential risk

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when it comes to advertising American

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Express and their earnings call told us

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that businesses are spending less money

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on Advertising Google told us that

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advertising demand is flat to negative

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for YouTube it's straight up and

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negative for the last two years when you

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look at meta you have warnings on

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Advertising when you look at Amazon you

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have warnings on Advertising advertising

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across the board seems to be a risky

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Venture right now and it makes sense I

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mean we could look at some reports to

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see just that add budgets here's a

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report that suggests ad budgets are set

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to slow even more in 2023 I believe this

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was a Forbes report here

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lower ad budgets in 2022 affected nearly

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every ad stock including companies like

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alphabet and meta and what's happening

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here in this next year going forward

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well look at some of the ad spending

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First China according to Insider

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intelligence will weigh heavily on the

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2023 numbers as the second biggest

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digital ad Market is expected to quote

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post its lowest digital ad growth on

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record due to tougher regulations and

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economic headwinds U.S the U.S

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advertising Market is expected to grow

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by about 5.9 percent in aggregate in

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2023 and that's lower than the nine

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percent we saw in 2022 however look at

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this

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on a brighter note the article says the

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connected TV Market is expected to grow

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14.4 in 2023 and will grow faster than

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the overall advertising Market linear TV

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in exchange is expected to fall by 6.3

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percent and 2023 according to uh this

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individual from Pro well okay well I

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mean this person it might be a little

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biased he's a director of programming

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CTV Supply at Xander 2023 marks the new

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age of CTV yeah whatever okay that's way

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too biased for me to really even have

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read that but anyway the point is we

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know that the ad sector is slowing

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growth substantially we know that

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expenses at Disney and Netflix are

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through the roof for investments into

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advertising so potentially where does it

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make sense to invest well Arc invest is

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a big fan of investing in Roku I

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personally have some qualms about

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investing in Roku and I'll show you

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specifically why so first of all this

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this is the last earning statement from

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Roku and what you could see is that

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first of all they're massively negative

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on their device's revenue we know that

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they don't actually make money from

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their devices that's fine but what we do

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notice is that you actually have seen

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margins that Roku compress 500 basis

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points year over year for the fourth

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quarter and so now it's sort of like oh

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dang like where you invest in the

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advertising sector right it's tough

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you've actually grown platform

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advertising Revenue by four percent at

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Roku now that's great fantastic Revenue

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has grown by four percent at Roku but

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for a company that's losing money that's

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potentially not the greatest thing that

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we want to be hearing that revenue is

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only growing at four percent at Roku

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it's trading like a growth stock yet

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it's not really growing that much it's

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growing by about four percent

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not only is it growing by about four

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percent uh year over year here but

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you're seeing that margin compression

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and an explosion in sales and marketing

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if you look at the sales and marketing

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line You'll see

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297 million dollars spent on sales and

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marketing 297 is an explosion of 82

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percent they spend 82 percent more money

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on sales and marketing to grow revenues

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by four percent that's insane according

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to Bloomberg revenues for Roku are

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expected to remain negative through

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2026. so you have an infinite p e ratio

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for this company not only that if we

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look at their current assets you're

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sitting it you're decent you're sitting

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decently at cash and cash equivalents of

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about two billion dollars they've got

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about 1.1 in current liabilities so

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you've got maybe about 800 million

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dollars of rough free cash but the price

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problem is for the year ended 2022 this

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company had negative free cash flow Roku

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had negative free cash flow of 172

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million dollars so yeah you've got a

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little bit of a run rate right you've

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got maybe three four years at this burn

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rate of negative uh free cash flow

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you've got the extra cash there at Roku

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but you're paying a pretty high

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evaluation for a company that's not

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growing well at all four percent

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increase in top line revenue while

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spending 82 percent more on sales and

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marketing kind of wild in my opinion now

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that's just looking straight at the

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shareholder letter you could also look

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uh at some other sources uh and and see

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basically the same thing being said but

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a little bit differently here for

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example and I know some people don't

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like it but this is why I like going to

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the sources myself but here for example

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is Motley Fool and their opinion and

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they usually are bullish it seem games

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on a lot of things but not on Roku look

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at what they had to say roku's audience

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is still expanding but its margins are

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crumbling its gross margins gross

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margins that's different from the

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margins that I talked about because I

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specifically talked about streaming

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margins where you get a 500 basis point

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fall year over year this is their gross

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margins combined falling about 190 to

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over 40 to 42 in the fourth quarter

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we're looking at again a slightly

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different margins here uh the gross

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margin of its platform business which

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generates most of its revenues from the

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integrated ads on Roku fell fell from

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60.6 to 55.8 percent thanks to macro and

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then of course their set-top boxes

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margins also fell and so this sort of

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begs the question where is Kevin liking

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the advertising business well many of

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you already know this and maybe you've

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already said it out loud to me it's

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obvious it's trade desk I've personally

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been a big fan of investing in trade

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desk this is their Q3 report let me grab

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their Q4 report which is right here year

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and take a look at why I like trade desk

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so trade desk grew its sales and

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marketing expenses by 28 so trade desk

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grew sales and marketing by 28 year over

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year and their year-over-year growth was

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24 so rather than growing Revenue four

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percent rev at Roku and spending 80

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something percent more on marketing they

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grew revenues 24 year over year while

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only spending 28 percent more on sales

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marketing

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they also had that drop off on a stock

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based comp for their GNA so you had a

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larger net income this quarter but you

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actually have growth now that growth is

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slowing don't get me wrong it is a

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slowing sector right you had growth that

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slowed from 31.8 year over year to in

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the last quarter just 24 growth so

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growth is slowing it is that

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recessionary pain that you are seeing

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but you actually have a cash flowing

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business not only is it cash flowing but

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the company is performing substantial

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BuyBacks because they've got plenty of

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money to cover their payables and any of

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the extra cash that they have along with

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their free cash flow of 475 million

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dollars for last year they are

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performing stock BuyBacks which is great

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so here's a company in my opinion that

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if you're looking for something in the

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advertising space that is basically

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connected TV advertising trade desk is

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the one that has all the pricing power

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now think a little bit more about about

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10 connect to TV for a moment connected

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TV is nice because you're not facing the

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Anti-Trust competition that maybe Google

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or Facebook are experiencing connected

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TV is actually driven by a new form of

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cookie and this new form of cookie is

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called uid2 now what's brilliant about

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uid2 is it was actually created by trade

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disk and I want to be clear okay maybe

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I'm slightly biased I'm an investor in

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trade desk okay but I want to explain

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why people always ask me why and why

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aren't you investing in Netflix or

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Disney or Roku here's why uid 2 was

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created by trade desk but they

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purposefully made it open source in my

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opinion because they're playing 4D Chess

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With The Regulators they don't want the

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Google problems where people you know

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we've got these Anti-Trust concerns for

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Google leading to a disaster with uh

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with with potential Google advertising

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in their basic uh advertising Monopoly

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right uh and then that's because they

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have like 90 percent sales side control

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of the cell the the inventory for

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advertising but uid too is is basically

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different from third-party cookies but

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it's somewhat similar in that basically

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users provide consent to a publisher by

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sharing their email address and then a

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unique ID is created with that email

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address Google has one that uses its uh

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that's sort of a new cookie that uses

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your phone number or your login ID when

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you're logged in with Google to kind of

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track you around but with uid2 it's sort

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of the competitor to Google's versions

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uid2 you're using email addresses to

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create unique and encrypted IDs to make

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sure that your data remains private but

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as long as trade desk or some of these

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connected TV platforms can capture about

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10 to 15 percent of users they can

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anonymously model data much better than

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the old cookie system and the starting

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to use AI to help model the data and

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make sure that people are placing their

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ads with the highest Roi and that's

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where you're seeing declines in linear

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TV advertising there's no doubt that

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linear TV is going over to connect to TV

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then it's just a matter of who's winning

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and tradesk so far is one of the big

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Winners they have something called the

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KOA AI you could learn more about that

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but basically it's really good at using

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AI to find your best customers via

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look-alike modeling and trying to take

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the data that they do capture they use

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uid2 to do this they learn a lot more

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with uid2 the estimates are that the

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trade desk framework it could basically

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increase Roi or cpms by about 116

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percent compared to some of the older

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forms of cookies and really the fact

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that ouid 2 is open source and it's

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essentially a self-regulated platform

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limits you from Anti-Trust complaints

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you know a lot of other people like

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Kevin why aren't you investing in Google

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it's like well you're investing in

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Google for advertising but advertising

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is plummeting at Google you could try to

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go for the hype of oh well it's sold off

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maybe by the dip on Google because they

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do have ai but you know other companies

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have ai too and are actually making

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money and and and are growing and this

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to me is is hands down trade desk so

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look yeah am I biased because I'm an

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investor in it of course but I'm also

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defending my position as to why why I

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invest in trade desks now I'll give you

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a quick uh valuation on trade desk uh

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just really we'll do a quick little PEG

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ratio here and then I've got to go to

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the course member live stream I'm trying

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to get that course member livestream

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started a little bit earlier

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uh regularly here but but I I keep

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talking too much on this stream uh so we

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are looking for at the end of 2023 to be

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looking at about a one dollar EPS which

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does mean that it's about a buck five

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which does mean that right now at 55

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bucks trade desk is trading a little

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Rich at 52.3 times they are expected to

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grow at about 30 to 35 percent let's go

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conservative and take 52 divided by 30.

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it puts you about up 1.73 times PEG

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ratio for trade desk but that's my

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thesis on trade desk a lot of people

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have been asking about it and uh I

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figured I'd uh I'd add some of my

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opinion on that so uh but yeah otherwise

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otherwise I'm not a big fan of the uh of

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the um uh the the advertising space this

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is really the only player I find

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interesting and uh there you have it

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thank you so much for watching

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appreciate you coming to another meet

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Kevin report hopping straight over to

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the course member live stream now thank

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you so much goodbye

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