Don Lemon's TRAINWRECK Elon Musk Interview
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hey everyone me Kevin here oh my gosh I
just watched the Don Lemon versus Elon
Musk interview and it was a versus I I
don't blame Elon for being pissed about
this interview we're going to go through
it in detail here I'm going to be as
unbiased and neutral as possible but oh
Don there were some issues with this
interview style I'm going to explain
those from a fact-based point of view
keep in mind there's been a lot of drama
going into this interview Elon Musk
apparently cancelled uh some form of
exclusivity contract for Don Lemon that
was being negotiated Don Lemon
apparently was demanding an $8 million
salary private jet trips to vegus
massages and drinks being paid for day
drinks being paid for who knows we we
don't know the full scope of this
negotiation Don Lemon did say that Elon
Musk was trying to woo him so we're not
sure was Da demanding those things did
he suggest things that Elon was open to
doing we have we really no idea but what
we do know is what we can see and that
is the dawn Lemon versus Elon Musk
interview and again in this video I'm
going to give you a summary of all of it
so let's just get into it first uh Giga
Texas was the fastest construction uh
construction rather since World War II
uh and X is a useful platform for
realtime news this is kind of how we get
started kind of really starting on some
basic observations here okay but then
things like literally three bullet
points in get awkward elon's like you
know the thing about X is we want people
from all points of view we've got people
like Tucker more on the right Fox News
on the right CNN on the left Dawn goes
why would you say that that CNN is on
the left and
Elon what like who doesn't think CNN
leads left and I think we can of course
say that is very much the mainstream
opinion that CNN is going to have a left
lean I I think we could say that with
almost certainty of course we can't say
with 100% certainty because I'm sure
there are some people at CNN that are
trying to be as unbiased as possible
Right but let's be clear they have their
tilts so this was a really weird way to
start an interview trying to essentially
debate something off the start that like
bro like a who cares and B why why are
we starting out arguing about this so
elon's like uh am I missing something
here anyway we get into record usage on
X that advertisers are coming back to X
the problem is before Elon says 99% of
donations by Twitter employees were to
the left and that ended up leading to
what he believes a censorship tilt that
10x outweighed the level of censorship
against those on the right and he thinks
that's unfair he doesn't stand for
censorship and instead says look we
should just treat the law the way it is
whatever the law says we should do we
should do Don lemon's interview style
starts out very 20 questions esque I
actually think he's hurt by having these
Q cards or flash cards because it makes
the interview feel less uh casual and
more like a confrontational
interrogation so I think advice to Don
Lemon get rid of the Q cards sometimes I
go into an interview with an iPad and
that's mostly because sometimes when
people are sharing their ideas they can
go off into many different tangents in
the span of one response and so I like
to kind of write down what people are
saying so I can build on what they're
saying but going in with prepped like I
might have topics written down but going
in with prepped Q cards okay we got to
get through all this stuff it creates
rapid fire it creates interrogation it
creates confrontation I don't think this
is a really good idea it wasn't a good
way for Don Lemon to show the world hey
come do an interview with me it's a
little intense let's just say and I'm
not saying Elon can't handle intensity
and not here to say oh he's a baby can't
handle it it's just it's just not very
productive it hurts the actual outcome
of the interview when somebody can't
share the free flow of ideas because
maybe there's a time pressure and you
got to get through all your Q cards
anyway Elon says cybertruck is a once a
decade uh product the Tesla Roadster
that uh will be announced in the future
which we've already heard of in the past
will be a quote collaboration between
SpaceX and Tesla Don says flying car
Elon kind of kind of goes maybe he's
sort of playing with this here and it
says look it'll have some rocket
technology it won't really have wings or
propellers but it will have wheels and a
Yol so uh that information has kind of
already been known that we're looking at
the next Road s to be 0 to 60 in less
than one second it's really the idea of
can you floor it and get rocket
propelled to where you get this sort of
instantaneous movement to speed and then
the vehicle takes over speed we've
already known that so this wasn't really
a groundbreaking drop Elon says he likes
to play video games specifically Diablo
he sees video games as player versus
environment and Twitter as player versus
player PVP now that's really interesting
because for me personally I actually
don't like PVE I'm a big fan of PVP in
video games whether it's roster World of
Warcraft RuneScape though I will say I
did also like PVE questing and my
dailies and wow love dailies anyway and
I don't play anymore well wow that is
anyway Elon says he's almost always
sober that he doesn't drink much he does
however take a ketamine prescription and
he believes that's very useful for
getting out of a negative state of mind
and that people should consider talking
to their doctor about ketamine which is
a regulated drug known for helping
resolve medical issues he does say that
it's rare for him to take a day off
maybe uh he'll use ketamine once every
few weeks but sometimes he'll go several
without and ultimately what matters for
Wall Street is execution and he's going
to focus on executing then we get into
the Electoral College there's sort of a
debate over here Elon says look the
Electoral College amplifies blue States
Don Lemon says no it amplifies small
states which could be red States Elon
says look all I'm saying is that illegal
immigrants are counted in the census
fact check this is true all people are
counted in the census in fact the state
of Connecticut has a piece out on their
website that says the census counts
every person living in the country
citizens non-citizens and those in
holding permanent resident cards
excluding The Immigrant population even
illegal uh from the uh desial Census
count only cheats them out of the
resources and representation they
deserve or entitled to okay obviously
this is going to create a lot of debate
a lot of people don't think that illegal
immigrants are entitled to AB here
because H illegal uh or are entitled to
resources so there's a debate here but
if the census counts illegal immigrants
then yes it can actually boost the
number of House Seats a state has that
caters potentially to illegal immigrants
for example right now we have about
761,00
residents per house seat in Congress I
believe Elon is trying to reference a
Fox News article for memory here I found
it I've linked it all including this
full summary over at ec.com
ec.com that's where I just myself and my
team we post our sort of free uh
research we try to be as unbiased as
possible I really never want somebody to
think of eack as oh there's a tilt in
fact I love it when people are debating
like he's right he's left he's right
he's left it's like ah I'm getting an
equal amount on both sides Yes again I'm
really just trying to provide facts
because I'm I'm sort of married to the
idea of fact finding I I love it I find
it so entertaining I I much like Elon
love the truth now that doesn't mean I
don't think that Elon can sometimes do
some things that are a little Shyer but
then again everybody does okay so uh now
as far as this argument over uh the
Electoral College Don Lemon I think
makes another interview mistake here and
there okay so Q carts was Interview
mistake number one with peppering
questions right interview mistake number
two passive aggressive they're debating
about the Electoral College and then
what does uh um Don Lemon do he does
this okay well I don't think you're
right next question and starts reading
the next question I'm like whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa you can't just like
you could let somebody speak and then
move on but to say to let somebody speak
and then go well I think you're wrong
let's move on
ah it's it's a very aggressive style I
would recommend that Don Lemon change
that as soon as possible no Q cards
chill man let people talk sometimes
people get mad at me for not like
countering people in interviews no no no
no no the time to do that is separately
and you could slightly you know move
people into the direction of deeper
curiosity but getting mad just makes
people want to cut the interview short
like Elon does twice we'll talk about
that in just a moment uh and uh
ultimately the viewer ends up with less
perspective from the person so you're
net losing that way anyway Elon says
Democrats have the incentive to let
immigrants in and uh then we get into
talking about sort of great replacement
Theory Elon says the media is a terrible
judge of character Dawn then tries to go
down this rabbit hole which he almost
does for the rest of the interview which
is why I didn't really like this
interview it's like well don't you have
a responsibility to moderate the truth
and what Don's really setting up isy hey
you're a big powerful person with a big
social media platform isn't it incumbent
upon you to moderate the truth and make
sure we don't have racism and hate
speech in the country and elon's like
look I care that's why we have Community
notes we care about the truth but we're
only going to take things down to are
illegal that's not going to change the
fact that the internet is full of hate
speech just play Rust and you'll see
hate speech all the time and a lot of
spite that game is the definition of
spite Elon then gets into look you agree
with censorship I don't agree with
censorship you can't shut down the
internet Don says no I want you to take
responsibility and then Elon says fine
then change the law Don says well there
should be guardrails Elon argues then
change the law it's a good point it's a
very clear stance from Elon and you have
to respect it look we follow the law if
you want more than the law change the
law it's not a bad argument it's a
really good argument for free speech by
Elon here I don't think you can poop on
Elon for this one however Don keeps
going next we get into diversity equity
and inclusion and there's this
discussion that basically if you take
people who have lower medical test
scores you might end up causing more
death and malpractice in the medical
field because you're trying to promote
diversity rather than higher test scores
this comes from a discussion that's been
circulating for a while there's actually
a Wall Street Journal piece on this it's
called the National Institute for health
sacrifices scientific rigor for
diversity equity and inclusion that is
an oped so it is an opinion piece but in
it they'd say that Cornell University
along with Berkeley and other
universities emphasize their applicants
quote contribution to diversity and that
people will receive significant or sorry
that their Dei statements quote will
receive significant weight in the
evaluation and that you uh penalize
applicants who espouse colorblind
equality and ultimately give lower test
or give ultimately lower applicant
scores to those who want to treat
everyone the same with equality
okay there's some really big problems
here that we really have to kind of
break apart first of all it's it's
unclear if we can say with certainty
that people are getting into uh medical
positions with lower scores we cannot
say that with
certainty but it is implied when it's
when when you say that you are going to
give significant weight to somebody's
Dei statement over somebody and you
actually penalize somebody so you give
somebody bonus for a good Dei statement
and penalize them for saying they want
equality what you're doing is you're
creating a wedge that could overstep
somebody else's slightly lower test
scores so let's say somebody gets a 90
and somebody else gets an 87 it is
possible that the person with the 87
gets accepted while it's still good it's
not the 90 it's not the a because they
had a better Dei score now that is
strongly implied it is strongly implied
that it's happening I want to be clear
it probably is happening
can I say with 100% certainty it's
happening no because of course there's
always a small percentage chance that
it's not happening I think it probably
is though when you have statements like
this now Don does hit on this he says
there's no evidence of lowering
standards yes Don can be right here but
Elon can also be right it can be correct
that if we do lower standards more
people could die yes that is true there
is no evidence of lowering standards
that is also possibly true both of these
could be true but that doesn't actually
make either of them da or Elon wrong and
this is a lot of what we have the entire
interview is whether it's DA's questions
or elon's responses they're kind of both
on their own soapbox talking to their
own audience it's like Elon Musk is
talking over here to his audience he
likes censorship and Don lemon's over
here going he's a racist and and
everybody's kind of cheering their own
leader as opposed to them having a
conversation it really felt like uh each
person had a megaphone just appealing to
their side Without Really Trying to
bridge though I will say I
think given that Elon was the one having
to answer the questions here he did
really well at getting through this
one-hour long interview he did really
well at that uh now and he did try to
push it along we'll talk about that in
just a moment now uh so uh then Don says
shouldn't you fact check something
before you post on Twitter something
that isn't true or on X Elon says well
other people fact check me that's a cop
out on Elon so I have to say that's bad
Elon you can't do that if you if if you
think something's wrong maybe go A Step
Beyond just to check it before you post
it or if you're not sure if something's
right maybe go a step further don't rely
on people to comment reply that would be
like saying I'll just make whatever
videos I want on YouTube and I'll spout
whatever BS I want because people will
just fact check me no no no no no no I
think that the first responsibility
should be up on the user and it could
then be further substantiated or fact
checked by others
uh Elon says diversity equity and
inclusion could become an issue if we do
lower standards I agree uh and I think
everybody agrees with this Don then goes
into talking about why are there fewer
black and fewer female Pilots uh and
Elon says look I'm not here to argue
that uh the why there are fewer uh black
or why there are fewer female Pilots or
doctors all Elon is saying we should
just treat everybody the same going
forward yes there's been racism in
history at some point every country was
probably racist and Elon goes as far as
saying at some point everybody was a
slave at some point or the descendant of
some form of slave I don't think Elon
here is trying to offend uh the black
community or any particular Community I
think elon's just like let's just focus
on going forward rather than having this
argument so don is arguing on his
soapbox systemic racism is bad elon's
like yes it's bad but let's focus on
going forward so again arguing two
different things Elon says just focus on
people's skills and talents that's it
don't try to blame everything on race
and gender in fact goes as far as saying
that is unfair make life about people
not about race and
gender i h hands off to Elon on that one
absolutely Don goes into well I've been
discriminated against and elon's like
well but you're successful okay none of
this matters none of this matters okay
just because Don may be is successful
and in some you know in the way some
people view him uh great and just
because Elon successful uh you know like
these are case studies that don't matter
what matters is broadly do people have
equal opportunity and look I think there
are fair arguments to say no people
don't have equal opportunity you could
say hey look in the 1950s uh a black
child that was raised by a poor family
is probably going to have a lower chance
at actually becoming a doctor or a pilot
because they don't have the money or
resources to train or get educated to
achieve at the levels that are required
so yes you can argue structural racism
okay so that doesn't change elon's
argument though that let's treat
everybody equally going forward that's
elon's argument Boeing comes up Boeing
comes up as uh basically this piece of
like hey why are they promoting Dei
almost every company is promoting Dei
this is true though if you do look at
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Boeing piece right here Boeing's
aspirations oh those are my notes sorry
that's the wrong button there we go
right here uh boeings aspirations this
is under their Dei section so it's only
about Dei but as you can see they have
very clear Dei aspirations increase
black representation achieve parity and
retention rates up across all groups you
know you don't see anything here about
having lower standards these are just
goals that they have I don't necessarily
think it's wrong for them to have these
goals as long as the standards aren't
changed for safety at Boeing especially
the disasters that Boeing has been going
through uh have been going through
Boeing has been going through the
disaster that well they have had a lot
of disasters what ever I'm lost on the
grammar there uh anyway Elon then says
look you're upsetting me with the way
you're phrasing questions if we're
bringing free speech and we make less
money so be it but choose your questions
carefully we have 5 minutes left you can
choose to adverti next to whatever you
want on Twitter or X you have the
opportunity to choose with the tools we
have at X this is a fair response from
Elon Don says where does your intensity
come from Elon says I was born that way
only a couple minutes left one or two
questions left on he goes look I'm I'm
not trying to upset you elon's like look
I got to go I got a room of people
waiting for me he's so over this he's so
over this and Elon ends with look my
goal is to extend Consciousness make
life multiplanetary I've made many
mistakes and if I had a time machine I'd
go back and fix them good job Elon I
think great job Elon big interview
Mistakes by Don Lemon Let's summarize it
get rid of the Q cards stop peppering
your people but when when you're
interviewing okay that's that's number
one number two you can't cut people off
with your opinion number three big
mistake we get it you believe there's
structural racism but trying to Goa Elon
into trying to you know imply or even
suggest that he's racist or or focusing
this whole interview about Dei and race
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