An Honest Conversation on AI and Humanity @wef | Yuval Noah Harari
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Please join me in warmly welcoming Yuval
Noah Harrari to deliver a conversation
about AI and humanity.
So hello everyone.
There is one question that every leader
today must answer about AI. But to
understand that question, we first need
to clarify a few points about what AI is
and what AI can do.
The most important thing to know about
AI is that it is not just another tool.
It is an agent. It can learn and change
by itself and make decisions by itself.
A knife is a tool. You can use a knife
to cut salad or to murder someone, but
it is your decision what to do with the
knife. AI is a knife that can decide by
itself whether to cut salad or to commit
murder.
The second thing to know about AI is
that it can be a very creative agent.
AI is a knife that can invent new kinds
of knives as well as new kinds of music,
medicine, and money.
The third thing to know about AI is that
it can lie and manipulate.
4 billion years of evolution have
demonstrated that anything that wants to
survive learns to lie and manipulate.
The last four years have demonstrated
that AI agents can acquire the will to
survive and that AIs have already
learned how to lie.
Now one big open question about AI
is whether it can think.
Modern philosophy began in the 17th
century when Rene proclaimed I think
therefore I am.
Even before the cult we humans defined
ourselves by our capacity to think. We
believe our we rule the world because we
can think better than anyone else on
this planet.
Will AI challenge our supremacy in the
field of thinking? Now that depends on
what thinking means.
Try to observe yourself thinking. What
is happening there?
Many people observe words popping in
their mind and forming sentences and the
sentences then forming arguments like
all humans are mortal. I am human
therefore I am mortal.
If thinking really means putting words
and other language tokens in order, then
AI can already think much better than
many many humans. AI can certainly come
up with a sentence like AI thinks,
therefore AI.
Some people argue that AI is just
glorified autocomplete. It barely
predicts the next word in a sentence in
a sentence.
But is that so different from what the
human mind is doing?
Try to observe to catch the next word
that pops up in your mind. Do you really
know why you thought that word where it
came from? Why do you did you think this
particular word and not some other word?
Do you know? As far as putting words in
order is concerned,
AI already thinks better than many of
us. Therefore, anything made of words
will be taken over by AI. If laws are
made of words, then AI will take over
the legal system. If books are just
combinations of words, then AI will take
over books. If religion is built from
words, then AI will take over religion.
This is particularly true of religions
based on books like Islam, Christianity
or Judaism. Judaism called itself the
religion of the book and it grants
ultimate authority not to humans but to
words in books.
Humans have authority in Judaism not
because of our experiences but only
because we learn words in books. Now, no
human can read and remember all the
words in all the Jewish books. But AI
can easily do that.
What happens to a religion of the book
when the greatest expert on the holy
book is an AI?
However, some some people may say, can
we really reduce human spirituality
to just words in books? Does thinking
mean only putting language tokens in
order?
If you observe yourself carefully when
you're thinking, you will notice that
something else is happening there
besides words popping in your mind and
forming sentences.
You also have some nonverbal feelings.
Maybe you feel pain. Maybe you feel
fear. Maybe love.
Some thoughts are painful. Some are
frightening, some are full of love.
While AIs become better than us with
words,
at least for now, we have zero evidence
that AIs can feel anything. Of course,
because AI is mastering language,
AI can pretend to feel pain or love. AI
can say, "I love you." And if you
challenge it to describe how love feels,
AI can provide the best verbal
description in the world.
AI can read countless love poems and
psychology books and can then describe
the feeling of love much better than any
human poet, psychologist or lover. But
these are just words.
The Bible says in the beginning was the
word and the word was made flesh.
Latin says the truth that can be
expressed in words is not the absolute
truth. Throughout history, people have
always struggled with the tension
between word and flesh, between the
truth that can be expressed in words and
the absolute truth which is beyond
words.
Previously this tension was internal to
humanity. It was between different human
groups. Some humans gave supreme
importance to words. They've been
willing, for example, to abandon or even
kill their gay son just because of a few
words in the Bible.
Other humans have said, "But these are
just words. The spirit of love should be
much more important than the letter of
the law."
This tension between spirit and letter
existed in every religion, every legal
system, even every person.
Now this tension will be externalized.
It will become the tension not between
different humans. It this will be the
tension
between humans and AIs, the new masters
of words.
Everything made of words will be taken
over by AI.
Previously all the words, all our verbal
thoughts, they originated in some human
mind. Either my mind I thought this or I
learned it from another human. Soon most
of the words in our minds will originate
in a machine. I just heard today about a
new word that AIS coined by themselves
to describe us humans.
They called us the watchers.
The watchers that we are watching them.
AIS will soon be the origin of maybe
most of the words in our minds.
AIS will mass prodduce thoughts by
assembling words, symbols, images, and
other language tokens into new
combinations.
Whether humans will still have a place
in that world depends on the place we
assign our nonverbal feelings and our
ability to embody wisdom that cannot be
expressed in words. If we continue to
define ourselves by our ability to think
in words, our identity will collapse.
All this means that no matter from which
country you come, your country will soon
face a severe identity crisis and also
an immigration crisis.
The immigrants this time will not be
human beings coming in fragile boats
without a visa or trying to cross a
border in the middle of the night. The
immigrants will be millions of AIs that
can ride love poles better than us that
can lie better than us and that can
travel at the speed of light without any
need of visas.
Like human immigrants, these AI
immigrants will bring various benefits
with them. We will have AI doctors to
help in our health care systems, AI
teachers to help in our education
systems, even AI border guards to stop
illegal human immigrants. But the AI
immigrants will also bring with them
problems.
Those who are concerned about human
immigrants usually argue that immigrants
might take jobs, might change the local
culture, might be politically disloyal.
I'm not sure that's true of all human
immigrants, but it will definitely be
true of the AI immigrants.
The AI immigrants will take many human
jobs. The AI immigrants will completely
change the culture of every country.
They will change out religion and even
romance. Some people don't like it if
their son or daughter is dating an
immigrant boyfriend. What would these
people think when their son or daughter
starts dating an AI boyfriend?
And of course, the AI immigrants will
have some dubious political loyalties.
They are likely to be loyal not to your
country but but to some corporation
government across the ocean. Most
probably in one of only two countries,
China or the USA.
The USA encourages countries to close
their borders to human immigrants but
open them very very wide to USA
immigrants.
And now we can finally come to the
question each one of you must soon
answer.
Will your country recognize the AI
immigrants as legal persons?
AIS are obviously not persons. They
don't have a body or a mind. But a legal
person is something quite different from
a person. A legal person is an entity
that the law recognizes as having
certain legal obligations and rights.
For example, the right to hold property,
to file a lawsuit, and to enjoy freedom
of speech.
In many countries, corporations are
considered legal persons. The Alphabet
Corporation can open a bank account, can
sue you in court, or can donate to your
next presidential campaign.
In New Zealand, rivers have been
recognized as legal persons. In India,
certain gods have been granted such
recognition. Of course, until today,
recognizing a corporation, a river, or a
god as a legal person was just legal
fiction.
In practice, if a corporation like
Alphabet decided to buy another
corporation or if a Hindu god,
if a Hindu god decided to sue you in
court, the decision wasn't really made
by the god. It was made by some human
executives, shareholders or trustees.
It is different with AIS. Unlike rivers
and gods, AIs can actually make
decisions by themselves.
They will soon be able to make the
decisions necessary to manage a bank
account, to file a lawsuit, and even to
operate a corporation without any need
of human executives, shareholders or
trustees.
AIS can therefore function as persons.
Do we want to allow that? Will your
country recognize AIS as legal persons?
What if other countries do it?
Suppose your country doesn't want to
recognize AIS as persons. But the USA in
the name of deregulating AI and
deregulating the markets grants legal
recognition, legal personhood to
millions of AIs which start running
millions of new corporations.
Will you block these US AI corporations
from operating in your country?
Suppose some USAI persons invent super
efficient and super complex financial
devices that humans cannot fully
understand and therefore don't know how
to regulate. Will you open your
financial markets to this new AI
financial wizardry
or will you try to block it thereby
decoupling from the American financial
system?
Suppose some AI persons create a new
religion which gains the faith of
millions of people. That should not
sound too far-fetched because after all
almost all previous religions in history
have claimed that they were created by a
nonhuman intelligence. Now, will your
country extend freedom of religion to
the new AI sect and to its AI priests
and missionaries?
Maybe we should start with something a
bit simpler. Will your country allow AI
persons to open social media accounts,
enjoy freedom of speech on Facebook, on
Tik Tok, and befriendly children?
Well, of course, that question should
have been asked 10 years ago. On social
media, AI bots have been operating as
functional persons for at least a
decade. If you think AIS should not be
treated as persons on social media, you
should have acted 10 years ago.
10 years from now, it will be too late
for you to decide whether AIs should
function as persons in the financial
markets, in the courts, in the churches.
Somebody else will already have decided
it for you.
If you want to influence where humanity
is going, you need to make a decision
now.
So what is your answer as a leader? Do
you think the AI immigrants should be
recognized as legal persons? If not, how
are you going to stop that?
Thank you for listening to this human.
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