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hey everyone meet kevin here wow we had
a wild day from like an insane low this
morning tesla it's 790 to tesla being up
2 on the day and everything going great
this is such a volatile market it is
insane and it creates some opportunities
but we're going to talk about why was
the market green today and what did the
federal reserve just say that actually
added some color and a little bit of
guidance and a little suggestion
regarding what could happen with
inflation rate hikes uh and the future
let's talk about that quick note this
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okay let's get into this so neil
kashgari uh this was interesting okay i
got like i was surprised when i saw some
of these headlines and these headlines
weren't in the terminal they were on on
smaller news agencies uh well i guess i
shouldn't necessarily say smaller it was
like yahoo and other market watch and
stuff like that i guess there's probably
smaller than bloomberg but whatever uh
and the headlines were things like
neil kashgari says maybe only two rate
increases this year uh neil kashgari
says fed might pause in spring and i'm
like oh my gosh those headlines are
actually really bullish because if you
think about it uh we've been told from
the federal reserve they're planning to
do three rate hikes last time the
federal reserve said they were gonna go
from three rate hikes to two rate hikes
it was the end of 2018
and the market started rallying again
after that it's like oh is that
potentially the reason do people have
memories of 2018 and is that actually
what he said right
some things to talk about uh and and
this pause in the spring i mean what so
like raise rates and then and then just
like chill back and do nothing so i saw
those headlines and i'm like
oh that sounds a little weird on the
tesla uh anyway
you know what is that i don't know
tesla
that's why it's down 31 this year
anyway so i'm like okay let me read the
transcript so once the market was closed
i'm like let me figure out exactly
what's going on uh i went through the
transcript and here's what we know
so first of all neil kashgari and this
is really important to know
when you line up the federal reserve
board members neil kashgari
on a rank of who's most dubbish to who's
most hawkish in case you don't know what
that means a dove like a little
a little birdie little birdie birdie uh
is like oh no don't don't raise rates so
you know it'll be okay things will get
better all their own that's a dove right
well just give me some crackers to chew
on and leave me alone uh that's enough
and then a hawk is like no i'm not
getting in there my little kill and
we'll kill inflation i'll take this down
okay that's that's awe on a scale of
who's most dovish to hawkish so hawk is
being at the bottom dovish being at the
top neil kashkari literally ranks at the
top he is the most
duffish there is he don't want to do
anything because he doesn't want to see
us go into the r word recession
okay so he gave us a little bit of
insight in terms of his thoughts and
then now we're going to get some insight
as well into like where did this click
bait come through from those headlines
uh so first on supply chains
he talks about because of the supply
chain issues having penciled in two rate
hikes for december but this is a little
bit misleading because most fed board
members are raising their estimates for
rate hikes after december powell said
that on wednesday so i hate to say it
but whoever ran that article whether it
was reuters yahoo market watch
i have to call this one clickbait neil
kashkari did say in the interview i
penciled in two rates for 2022
but again he said in the interview he's
probably moving this up because things
have actually gotten worse since
december now the only company so far to
indicate that things have gotten or
might be better in q1 of 2022 is apple
but they still say even though things
are going to be slightly better we're
still going to have quote significant
supply chain constraints there was a
little confusion this morning because i
mentioned that in a video but some
people like oh but apple said it was
better i think this again was a little
bit kind of clickbait headline today
where uh app the apple news was that oh
oh that's it supply chains are getting
better no not not quite so fast
apple literally in their earnings call
you see it on my twitter
said we're still experiencing
significant supply chain disruptions
that was their word i'm not adding the
word significant they said that uh it
was i think their chief financial
officer or whatever their earnings call
they said that uh and their primary chip
supplier one of their primary chip
suppliers says they don't actually
expect a supply chain shortages to get
better until 2023 and that's one of the
primary suppliers for apple so a little
bit of click bait on the apple news a
little bit of click bait uh so far on
this this two rate hike news now there
is good news in what neil says i don't
want to like take the good news away i
want to provide good context because i i
want the market to do well uh recessions
are bad everybody loses money
it's not good and it's also very hard to
open new businesses in a recession you
want to open new businesses
when things are booming it's a lot
easier to do that
uh and i have plans of doing that this
year multiple times but anyway uh
one of the other things he told us is
that
one of the the big things we've got to
watch is how fast workers come back he
said what was unique was looking back to
2017 and 2018 we would see labor
participation go up in the later part of
the economic expansion so what that
means is as you're getting towards like
all right this expansion's been going on
for 10 years since like 2008
more marginalized workers potentially
come into the workforce because
businesses are broadening their reach
for who to pick so people potentially
with lower skill sets different races
different sex whatever and that's a good
thing the fed wants that that's their
version of maximum employment is trying
to make sure that as many people as
possible can be in the labor force
but the problem is he's saying we've got
a watch in labor reports and this is a
big catalyst okay you want to write this
down you have not written this down on
your calendar i think you're making a
mistake february 4th march 4th feb 4
march 4. those are fridays
and those are at 5 30 in the morning
when we are going to get labor reports
and he says one of the big catalysts for
us basically slowing down or maybe
pausing we'll see he says conceivably
that we could pause
if things come in substantially better
right big big big if which again means
the headline was kind of clickbait about
the pause thing because he also had some
other ifs in the other direction which
we'll talk about in a moment but anyway
what he's looking for is labor
participation so seeing that number
which i think it's like 66.7 i think it
went up like one tenth of one percent uh
from the last month and what we want to
see is we want to see that number tick
up
so that's a big catalyst the feb4 number
and march 4 number the problem is
because of omicron it's entirely
possible that uh that participation
number could actually go down a little
bit before it goes up so there could
actually be more bad news before good
news uh which isn't great because what
we don't want is bad news at the
beginning of february and then
everybody's looking forward to march
16th going oh crap the fed's about to
raise rates half a percent and then we
get a february freakout freak freak
february that would be bad we want rally
fat right
uh and we want positive catalysts like
we want real catalysts we don't just
want uh you know momentum uh traders
pushing stocks up to the moon uh and and
then they collapse right back down
because then that's not real uh stock
growth we want real stock growth and we
get that when we get positive catalysts
in the market so mark your calendar
march 4th and feb 4 both of those we
want to see labor participation come up
he says it is critical to see that labor
participation come up
then he the next thing is obviously
inflation okay mark your calendar for
this one
feb 10 march 10 so 4 10 4 10 feb 10
march 10. uh the feb 10 march 10 that's
when cpi comes out he does say and he's
the most dovish he says look inflation's
lasted longer because of the covet
shutdowns uh he does think we could
start to normalize this year quote
if
if if if if
that labor force participation goes up
that was a big if for him he mentioned
this probably three or four times that
we got to see workers come back and
supply chain issues to work themselves
out he's as a dove remember the duff
doesn't really want to do anything uh
the dove wants supply chain issues and
companies to resolve their own problems
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okay then he says things should start to
normalize
his focus though and i thought this was
a really good piece of information says
his focus for when inflation is going to
come down is actually the 12-month
figure that maybe by mid-year will start
to see inflationary inflation numbers
roll down so that way those higher
prints start rolling off is is was his
quote now
i doubt that a little bit because last
summer the inflationary readings
actually came in lower you know we
weren't doing too bad with inflation we
kind of have like a flat period in the
summer which is not so good about
potentially numbers coming down in the
summer inflation really came in high in
like october or november december and
maybe that's when we start seeing year
over year smaller numbers because
obviously if you're measuring compared
to a higher number last year it should
be easier to come in with a lower
inflation print he does think that
inflation expectations are stable
because and this was a big one because
the fed has set the proper inflation
expectations so he believes because of
the fed's communication
inflation expectations are
stable now what's really interesting
about this is first of all you can
measure inflation expectations by
looking at the five or ten year break
even charts if you even look at like the
two year break even charts and you're
trying to find stability on the right
side of that curve to where it's not
skyrocketing when it's going up that
means people think inflation is going to
be worse in the future the bond market's
pricing that in necessary people uh
people would be like consumer
expectations right uh but anyway
uh he says
uh there there are two things that are
important first if inflation does come
down then we can do less which he wants
to because he's a dove right but
listen to this one he says quote but
we need to start by walking the walk we
need to walk the walk we need to walk
the walk he said that three times
so what does that mean what does that
mean when when a fed person is saying we
need to walk the walk well what he's
saying is we got to go into march and
actually do what we said we were going
to do we are communicating that we are
going to end the taper in march and that
we're going to raise rates and he's
saying it's time for us to walk the walk
otherwise investors are going to lose
faith in us
and they're not going to trust us
anymore and then they might think that
we're going to let inflation go out of
control so
he believes they're setting the stage
that we are going to deal with inflation
that's why jerome powell was so hawkish
in december that's why jerome powell was
so hawkish this wednesday we're going to
deal with inflation possibly because
biden's yelling at him
but also probably because inflation's
actually a problem right now
uh so they're communicating that but the
most duffish guy the most stovish guy
you got at the fed is saying we gotta
walk the walk
now what's also kind of interesting to
know about neil kashgari is he is not a
voting member of the fed so when you're
not a voting member for 2022 it means he
actually has no say in the interest rate
policy as to whether or not they hike in
2022. he does become a voting member in
2023 and since he's a dove that would
help maybe ease inflation or i'm sorry
uh interest rate hike pressures right
because again he's enough
okay good then this was an interesting
one and this was the c word okay this
was interesting he says
the yield curve matters this is uh you
know how everybody's talking starting to
talk again about the inverted yield
curve and everything right
yeah he says the yield curve matters in
his opinion not to predict recessions
but to try to let us know where the
neutral interest rate is the neutral
interest rate is the interest rate where
the federal reserve does no longer need
to raise rates determining where that
neutral rate is is key and he believes a
flattening yield curve tells us maybe
there's a limit to how much we could
raise rates that's bullish by the way
however what's not bullish remember i'm
always no matter what side i personally
am on my goal is always to give you the
the facts the way it is whether it's you
know beneficial or not to me it doesn't
matter the facts are what the facts are
this was an interesting one so that's
bullish that's bullish
uh is basically saying there might be a
ceiling on rates what's not bullish
though is this
he says
is it possible that we have to move to a
net
contractionary state where basically
they're tightening more because
inflation's not coming down or workers
are not coming back which hint hint
so far inflation's been getting worse
not better says powell and
we've been in more of a uh an
environment where workers are not coming
back because they have more savings
people are retiring people don't want to
go and get mommy uh especially older
generations or people retiring or older
right
uh or earlier well
existing folks who were working a
retiree earlier
and so he says yes it's possible i don't
want to do that mistakenly but it is
possible that we have to move to a net
contractionary course for now though we
need to walk the walk now folks i don't
and i'm really done yet but i don't know
about you but i want to ask you let me
know in the comments
just so far based on everything i told
you is it fair to have a headline that
says
fed sees two rate hikes
or fed may pause in spring
come on man that's
bullcrap
that's bull crap because all these extra
details do not say
uh those headlines at all
you know total clickbait uh which does
partly make me wonder if some of today's
rally
was
potentially a little bit misplaced
and so i just want to give a warning
that what's going to happen next week is
we're going to hear from some hawks
we're going to hear from some of the
other fed members as they go out on the
press circuit and go talk the talk uh
and uh and we'll see what they say i
imagine to be a little more hawkish than
this guy but anyway uh he does say if
supply chains sort themselves out
maybe we'll be good the expectations are
everything though uh and then listen to
this he says quote we mean it we're
going to walk the walk
i think if the most devish member is
coming out saying we're going to walk
the walk i think all of the other board
members especially the hawks will be
like we are raising rights and much
now powell indicated that we want to
raise rates steadily so which kind of
goes in contrast to this pause idea
and
yeah okay good that's uh that's all so
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i actually think this is
very very crystal clear from neil
kashgari here he's very clear he's the
most dovish guy the guy who's least
likely to want to raise rates is saying
we need to raise rates in march we need
to start walking the walk we need to
start doing what we're doing or say
we're going to do because we don't
exactly know how much interest rates are
going to affect the market and actually
help reduce inflation and if inflation
gets out of control we've got issues he
does expect inflation prints will go
lower this summer i think it might
take a little bit longer because the the
reads were a little flat in the summer
you could look at last year's uh summer
and it was kind of like oh is inflation
going down that's cool
but
things have things have changed boy have
things changed after delta but anyway
those are uh those are
the notes from neil kashgar i think
they're quite useful and we should take
those into a monday and see what news we
get monday tuesday wednesday thursday
friday thanks folks for watching and
we'll see you next one bye
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