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Drum Powell is talking on Monday, but
it's not what you think. And we've got
leaked audio with Witco and the
Russians, which is a little
embarrassing. Airbus might end up having
an oopsy dupes that could lead to a lot
of flights getting grounded. We've got
calls for a potential 35% chance of
recession at JP Morgan and only a 15%
chance of real growth in this economy. A
lot of things to break down. And so
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so why don't we go ahead and start with
these leaked transcripts before we get
into the recession and markets. I want
to talk a little bit about Putin and
what's going on with Ukraine. So
apparently Witkoff got on the phone with
Yuri, the uh foreign minister of
political affairs in uh in UK uh in
Russia. And the transcript is kind of
bizarre honestly. So uh this is the uh
the transcript right here and I
highlighted the most interesting
components of it. Uh this transcript is
from Bloomberg. It's likely a leaked
transcript that came from uh inside of
Congress because the recording of the
call did end up getting into the hands
of uh committees within Congress. So
that's likely where the transcript of
the call leaked from. And what I find
that's very fascinating here is you
could hear Steve Whit get on the phone
with Yuri here in this transcript. Steve
Whit says, "Well, listen. I'm going to
tell you something. I think if we can
get the Russia Ukraine thing solved,
everybody will be jumping for joy. Yuri,
you actually see a lot of doubt here.
This call, by the way, took place on
October 14th, about 6 weeks ago. But
it's really important because it sets
this groundwork for this quote unquote
28 point peace plan that supposedly is
being negotiated between Trump and the
Russians. Meanwhile, Putin comes out
just yesterday and he's like, I don't
know anything about this plan. This is
nowhere close to final plan. I can't do
a great Putin accent. But the point is,
you can actually see the eagerness of
the Americans here, Steve Whit
specifically, trying to make a deal. And
in my opinion, it comes across as
somewhat childish, how eager the United
States is to get a deal. Uh, of course,
Trump and the Trump administration are
defending it, saying that this is just
negotiating, but let's just stick to the
facts and let you be a decider of what
you think about this. So, take a look at
this. My friend, I just want your invi
advice. Do you think it will be useful
if our bosses talk on the phone? Steve
says, "Yes, I do." Okay. So, so keep in
mind, Yuri, his goal is to get Putin and
Trump on the phone because Putin's
really good at talking and Putin tends
to manipulate Trump to delay. That's
what's happened every single time
there's been a discussion. anytime
things get hard, Putin wants to get on
the phone with Trump and then all of a
sudden magically Putin gets a whole
bunch more time. You know, they start
with this joke of uh Yuri saying, "Yeah,
yeah, yeah. Happy to help you solve this
problem to make sure everybody gets
their joy and is jumping up and down.
You only need to solve one problem and
that's the Russia Ukrainian war." And of
course, Witco says, "How do we get that
solved?" Yuri goes, "Hey, maybe we could
get Putin on the and Trump on the
phone." You know, Trump's ready to do
it. Okay. Hey, Yuri's like, "Great,
awesome." And Yuri's kind of like
sounding like he wants to end the phone
call here. It's like, "Great. Yep. Let's
get Trump and Putin on the phone and be
done." But then Steve Whit, he talks
like 27 times as much as Yuri does. And
listen to his phrasiology.
I would make the call, this is Putin to
Trump, and just reiterate that you
congratulate the president on this
achievement, that you supported it. You
supported it, and that you respect he is
a man of peace and you're just you're
really glad to see it happen. And I
would just say that I think it's going
to be a really good call because let me
tell you what I told the president. I
told the president, you the Russian
Federation have always wanted peace. And
that's my belief. I told the president
that I believe that and I believe the
question is the issue is we have two
nations that are having a hard time
coming together with a compromise. I am
even thinking that maybe we set out like
a 20point peace proposal just like we
did in Gaza. Put a plan together and my
point is this. And then Yuri interrupts.
Okay. Okay. My friend I think the point
is very clear. Our leaders could
discuss. Hey Steve, I agree with you.
Okay. We will suck him. We will suck him
off. Oh, he didn't say it. We will
congratulate. We will say that Mr. Trump
is man of peace and so so and he will
say but Steve, but here's the thing that
I think would be amazing. Yuri, okay.
Okay. And you can kind of tell like
Yuri's just like, "Bro, just get him on
the phone. I don't want to play this
game. Like, I'm done with this call."
And Steve's like, "No, man. I got to
shamwow sell you, bro. I'm sh I'm
selling you on this deal. You got to you
got to suck up to Trump. You got to talk
about how brilliant Trump is." It's like
Steve's basically trying to lay out this
whole plan and then you're okay. Okay.
What if? What if? Hear me out. Okay. I
will discuss with my boss and I come
back to you. Okay. No, no, no, no. Hear
me out. Hear me out. And then he wants
to keep going. Right. And Steve Whit
goes because listen to what I'm saying.
I just want you to say maybe just to say
this to President Putin because I know
you know I have the deepest respect for
President Putin. That's interesting
coming from Steve Whit. But he gets this
to this. Maybe he says to President
Trump, you know, Steve and Yuri
discussed something very similar to the
20point peace plan. That could be
something that could move the needle a
little bit and we're open to some sort
of things. Maybe we could do a land swap
like Daesque and maybe a land swap
somewhere else. And instead of talking
like that, let's talk more hopefully so
we could get a piece done. Steve Witoff
is basically like, can you pump up Trump
and make it seem like he he has hope and
then we could like pitch that we have
some kind of 28 point peace plan and we
could get all this cheer and enthusiasm
that, you know, we're the stewards of
world peace. Okay. Okay. Sounds good.
And here's one more thing. Sinski is
coming to the White House, right?
[snorts]
I know that. I will go to that meeting
because they want me there. But I think
if possible, we will have the call with
Putin before the meeting. Before.
Before. Yeah. Correct. Okay. Okay. I got
your advice. I discussed that with my
boss and come back to you. Okay. Okay.
Yuri, speak to you soon. Great. Great.
Thank you so much. Thanks. You. Bye.
Bye. Bye. Anyway, so like this whole
call really comes across as Witoff like
getting on his knees going, "Please just
get Putin on the phone. Tell Trump how
great he is and how there's potential
for a 28 point peace plan or whatever."
And really the idea there in my opinion
is they're just trying to pop up prop up
that there's hope. Like this is how
Trump negotiates. Okay? If I can come
across as making it seem like the
Russians are on board with 28 point
peace plan, then I could go to Zalinsky
and go the Russians are on board with
the police the peace plan. You should
accept the peace plan. And if Zalinski
accepts it, then they could take that
acceptance and go back to Putin and go I
got him to accept it. I got him to
accept it. And then Putin go, "Okay, one
more change." Right? But the reality is
like Trump and Witkoff are scrambling to
get this 28 point peace plan. They're
going to the Russians and the Russians
like we don't want anything to do with
this. Senci's like, "Bro, this isn't
even close." And you don't really have
anything. So it's an interest like this
dialogue right here, this transcript, I
think, really says we ain't going
nowhere anytime soon with this Russia
Ukraine peace deal. Now, of course,
there's no denying that there's been
corruption in Ukraine, and I know the
probe of uh you know, uh the the de
facto VP who just resigned in Ukraine
doesn't look good, but it's also a sign
that they are chasing corruption uh in
Ukraine. And we also don't know if Andre
was corrupt. you know, he got raided,
but a lot of people are treating him as
guilty until, well, basically proven
otherwise, including David Saxs, who's
in the White House, as the cryptos are.
Saxs is basically cheering. I told you
all the Ukrainians were corrupt two
years ago, and I was right because a
probe is happening. It is kind of
interesting, but that's the sort of
cheering that's going on uh ahead of
actual conclusions coming out. And I
always like to be cautious of things
like that because I think sometimes you
could really put the cart before the
horse and uh cheer about having a deal
when you don't have a deal at all. So
that's a little bit on Ukraine. On top
of that, another piece that got a lot of
attention today was the Washington Post
piece that Hegsath ordered a uh strike
on uh the you know this this was one of
the first strikes on a um one of these
drug ships in the Caribbean. And uh the
ship apparently was targeted by SEAL
team six and they struck the uh ship uh
and nine people appeared to die
immediately. And Pete Hegth gave an
order and said that quote the order was
to kill everybody. And so after the
smoke cleared, this drug fing was then
struck a second time because they saw
two survivors that were holding on to
the shipwreck basically and then they
bombed the two survivors as well. Uh and
so this has been a big messaging play by
Donald Trump that hey, if you smuggle
drugs in the Caribbean, we are going to
blow you out of the water. Uh, and you
know, Donald Trump is cheering this
obviously as a large success that wow,
there all of a sudden very few boats in
the Caribbean. Makes sense because he's
trying to send this deterrent signal.
Uh, makes a lot of sense. So, uh, then,
uh, we've got, uh, Skyling says, "I just
got both programs." Yeah. If you have
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always like to segment that, but I see
you asking here and I want to help you
quickly. All right. So, uh Melania Trump
is also apparently now announcing that
she's going to get into the business of
making movies and she's announced the
formation of Muse Muse Films. Muse Films
is is now being created uh by Melania
Trump. Uh on top of that, I also briefly
watched part of this Cardone and Sailor
interview. I had to click around because
I was really having trouble like
listening to what I've heard Michael
Sailor say about 20,000 times before and
I even listened to Cardone and Eric
Trump just sort of go on about uh uh you
know Bitcoin and a lot of these
arguments we've heard before. But I
think one of the most interesting things
for me is that Cardone argues that now
at least his latest funds or what he's
arguing now is that he's one-third debt,
one-third Bitcoin, and one-third real
estate. And I think that's very
interesting because if you end up in a
volatile market or any kind of
recession, you've really destroyed all
of your downside protection because, you
know, in an extreme example where you
know, Bitcoin, which has happened, is
down 70%. and his real estate's down
like, you know, whatever 10 20% or
something like that, your debt ratios
are going to be so far out of whack that
you might end up being not only negative
cash flow on your real estate assets,
uh, but because you have now debt that's
actually based in part on Bitcoin as an
asset, which seems odd unless you're
talking about appreciated real estate,
uh, but then it's, you know, obviously
not clearly uh, leveraged to what it
could be, which is would be a good
thing, But, uh, like I guess what I'm
trying to say is if you have 1/3 debt,
1/3 Bitcoin, and 1/3 real estate, and
Bitcoin goes through a normal kind of
70% correction cycle, let's just math it
out really quickly to see what your debt
ratios would look like and what your
real estate positioning would look like
relative to that uh to that debt. And I
don't think it's good. So, uh, let's do
it together so you can kind of
transparently see what that would look
like. So, if I go into a quick
spreadsheet and just throw in let's do
uh let's do a you know $100 of we'll
call it crypto, we'll go loans and then
we'll go real estate and we'll go 100 on
each of these. Right? Those are net
assets obviously of 300. Now, if we had
a correction cycle and this was worth 30
for a moment and let's say this was
worth 80. Well, now you've got 110 of
assets. uh sorry you have 200 of of of
actual assets here right so 200 of
assets 100 of loan I should say let me
clear that up a little bit so in this
case you have a 50% uh debt ratio but in
the example over here where you know if
all of a sudden crypto goes through a
down cycle and your real estate goes
down a little bit because you've mostly
bought in sunb belt uh you know
southeast like Texas and Florida where
you're overbuilding and the real estate
market is much more sensitive to these
swings. Now all of a sudden you're at a
debt ratio of almost 1 one. You know you
have 110 million in assets versus $100
million of debt. I think what you've
really done is you've increased your
risk profile, not decreased your risk
profile. I think Cardone is trying to
suggest he's actually derisking by
exposing to Bitcoin. But what he's
actually done is he's introduced massive
volatility to a real estate play. uh
probably to try to attract investors
because I wouldn't be surprised if he's
slowing down on people investing in
Cardone Capital because people are
starting to wake up and realize
Cardone's trying to take a 35% waterfall
and a you know asset under management
fee every single year and an acquisition
fee for acquiring and holding Bitcoin
and real estate. Like it it seems odd to
me and obviously read his documents, get
his exact numbers. This is just roughly
what what I'm gathering from from
briefly watching this interview. And I
think it's wild because I think what
he's done is he's he's exposed himself
to being at a really nasty debt position
by having an asset that is really
aligned with the risk markets which are
at all-time highs. You know, the stock
market is very aligned with crypto and
real estate is usually on a different
cycle. Real estate goes through booms
and busts as well, but usually years
separated from a stock market boom or
bust. Very, very normal. So, usually
what you find, savvy investors will look
for a stock market that's at all-time
highs, and they invest in real estate,
and then when real estate's at all-time
highs, like the Airbnb bubbles or
whatever, they take money out of there,
and they get into the stock market,
which is often at lower levels. You
know, we had this huge Airbnb boom.
Everybody wanted to get into Airbnbs in
late 2021. It really fueled this boom
throughout 2022. Well, the stock market
was at lows in 22, but you still had a
booming real estate market because
people were still getting low interest
rates in the, you know, 3% range. That
that flipped obviously 24 25 where, you
know, the stock market is higher and
real estate market's much more stagnant.
So, I was somewhat surprised that
Bitcoin or Cardone is exposing himself
that that kind of stuff. But, uh, but I
guess he is. So, that covers uh Ukraine,
a little bit on Hegsth, a little bit on
uh Sailor and Bitcoin and Cardone. Uh
we've still got to talk what's going on
with Airbus and what's going on with
Drum Powell. So, let's get Airbus out of
the way. Oh, and then we got to talk
Tesla as well because that'll be quite
fun. So, if you haven't seen it yet, uh
there basically is this massive Airbus
software problem that needs to be fixed.
And it all goes back to an issue that
actually happened on a flight in October
where quote unquote 15 people were sent
to a hospital after a JetBlue flight
drops in altitude forcing emergency
landing. This is like a really scary
headline. But what you have to realize
is when you actually look at this, the
article says that two children and 12
adults were taken to the hospital with
quote minor injuries. So we had minor
injuries, which is often an indicator
that like people almost just went to the
hospital for liability sake or just in
case like people bump their heads or
whatever. I'll check them check you out
just to be sure that the airlines do
that because they want to encourage you
go to the hospital to sort of wipe that
liability. like we didn't discourage you
go from going to the hospital, right?
I'm not saying that these people didn't
belong in the hospital, but I have a
feeling these people didn't belong in
the hospital. Why do I say that? Because
here you could see that uh in the actual
data as Scott pointed out here in the
actual data the aircraft the A320 fell
100 ft
uh because of a flight control issue and
then the pilots pulled it out of that
dive that you know 100 ft mind mind you
dive at 1.4
G's. Okay. So, let's just understand
this for a moment. 1.4 GS,
it's not comfortable. You're going to
feel it as a passenger. It's an
adjustment, but it's probably the extent
of you like bonking your head on the on
the back like suddenly like, whoa, what
happened there? Right. Uh 1.4 GS
relatively minor. You get to 2Gs pretty
quickly doing some steep turns. Uh very
common in flight training. Uh, and the
descent of 100 ft is also by no means a
dive. A 100 ft difference in your
altitude at 30,000 the 35,000 ft. Most
of the time you don't even notice it. It
happens so modestly and so quickly, but
obviously the pilots notice this
deviation in flight control is likely
starting to tilt down and they took over
and presumably overcorrected. I I think
the pilots did the right thing to land
immediately, and this is nothing to say
the pilots did anything wrong, but an
autopilot descent versus a pilot, oh my
gosh, what's happening is going to the
reaction is going to be a little
jerkier. So, my opinion uh here is what
happened with that 100 foot drop, not a
big deal. What matters more is why it
happened. And that's actually the
scarier part. So apparently what
happened was you had a uh flight control
failure because of some form of software
bug in the A320 that may have been
caused by solar flares. And this is
because the A320s are a flyby wire
system. We had this in the Phenom 300.
Basically, what that means is if I push
the throttle forward, I'm not my
throttle lever isn't actually attached
to some kind of lever that attaches to
like the gas valve opening to these
turbine jet engines. Uh, instead, I'm
just sending a computer signal. That's
all the throttle is doing. Like, I may
as well just be turning a little knob or
like I could may as well type into my
computer, set throttle to 99%. it would
do exactly the same thing as pushing
this fancy lever forward.
Point of that is when you have a system
like that, it's a lot harder to fly if
you have software bugs. Because if you
have a software bug, like if I have a
mechanical plane that's not fly by wire,
like it's actually attached and I could
fly the plane like any kind of older
plane or I mean the Phenom 300 as an
example, the jet that that I flew has uh
you know I could steer and I have direct
steering. So you know when I move my
yoke the ailerons of this aircraft move,
right? When I step on the rudders it
moves. But that throttle control column
is all by wire. It's all computers. And
so what happens is if you get solar
flares that somehow create some kind of
bite flip or whatever and you get a
software bug, you got to now uncorrupt
this data to make sure these aircraft
can stay afloat. It's actually kind of
scary because, you know, we should be
grateful we saw that JetBlue flight only
drop 100 ft because the what if they
weren't able to regain control? Now,
obviously, there are many redundancies
and I'm grateful that they're announcing
uh that these aircraft are getting this
software update. It's a pain in the butt
because there are about 6,000 planes and
it takes time for somebody to go around.
You know, you probably have to budget
like an hour per plane or maybe even
more for somebody to go around and
update the software for all these
aircraft. So, the aircraft has to be
taken out of service. Somebody has to be
available to do the software upgrade.
These aren't like Tesla overthe-air
updates. The software updates,
especially on older aircraft, they're a
pain in the butt. They usually involve
manual memory exchanges into the systems
and multiple restarts and verifications.
They're a pain in the butt. If there's
one thing I hated about uh the Phenom
300 software updates most
pea ever, like mechanics charge you $750
just to do a software update. I kid you
not. $750 to do a software update. Like
a free software update. Like the
software doesn't cost you anything to
update. $750 to do it because it's such
pea. [laughter]
It's wild. So now imagine this on a you
know a global fleet of 6,000 of these
aircraft. Yeah. You could see quite a
lot of uh of of downtime over time. Now
a lot of airlines so far some airlines
have actually paused bookings on some of
these aircraft. Uh otherwise, a lot of
them are um uh uh you know, scheduling
to to get these issues fixed. But it's
it's good because the FAA has put out an
airworthiness directive on this uh an
emergency order essentially demanding
that this update uh go into place. And
it's good. That's exactly what they
should do. It's an emergency order that,
you know, basically don't fly the planes
until you upgrade uh the software to fix
this solar flare bug. It's a really big
deal, especially on these aircraft that
are so electronically sensitive. The
software can have bugs. So grateful to
see that they're working on solving
that. Uh now with that, uh I want to
touch on Tesla and then let's talk about
Jerome Powell and markets a bit. So
Tesla had a nice little sort of viral
thread this weekend. It wasn't very
long, but Gary uh Tan basically said,
"Hey, can we get FSD for RVs?" Uh, and
that's really because, you know,
somebody was showing a video of them
driving an RV and how cool it is or
whatever, but how nice it would be to
have full self-driving. And Ashook then
responds from Tesla and says on it with
a picture of the Robbo, which stands for
Robo Van. Now, the Robo Van, mind you, I
kind of think was a little bit of like I
don't I don't want to say it, but it was
a little bit of a scam mostly because
this is my opinion, okay? I think it was
just a remote controlled concept that
they wanted to show off on their robo
day. And that's fine. Like, I get it.
This thing reminds me of I iRoot so
much. I love it. Like, it's really cool.
I want this. Obviously, you don't have
windows in the front. It's really trying
to send this signal of, hey, we can have
a fully autonomous vehicle that can
actually house a lot of people, right?
Like you basically have a bus or an RV
or whatever that drives itself. And I
thought this was really cool. I'm 99%
convinced it was just tea operated,
which makes sense, but the vehicle would
be so cool. And and I love that they're
saying on it because as somebody who
owns the Cybertruck, the Model X, uh,
and the Model S, I would love nothing
and I've had the original Tesla
Roadster. I would love nothing more than
uh FSD, uh, 14.2 or greater on a
Mercedes Sprinter style van or a robo
van, whatever you want to call it. I
will buy it. I will be the first person
to order it and buy it. Like, just make
me a new car. just give me another
product I could buy Elon so I could buy
it, you know, like so juiced on on
autopilot, you know. I was at I was at
the doctor the other day. They're like,
"Oh, we saw you driving the Cybertruck.
How do you like it?" I'm like, "Love
it." Uh you FSD is great. I don't want
to drive a car without it. Sometimes I
have to like the Sprinter van, but it's
just a great great product. Uh I think
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wood. Uh but anyway, let's now talk
about uh markets and uh Jerome Powell.
So Jerome Powell is expected to speak on
Monday
and a lot of people are wondering if
this is going to be some kind of
rugpull. So Fed Chair Jerome Powell
delivers brief remarks and particip
participates in a panel discussion on
George Schultz and his economic policy
contribution. Event takes place during
Fed Blackout precluding remarks on
economic outlook or monetary policy at
Stanford University. Uh, and there will
be a moderator doing a Q&A.
Now, I think this is actually really
interesting because what this signals to
me is, uh, you know, nothing. [laughter]
Now, a lot of people are going to say,
"Wow, this is actually really weird. Why
is Jerome Powell going to an event
during the Fed blackout period?" And,
uh, it might come across as quite odd
because it is. Like usually you don't
see these events happen uh during the
Fed blackout periods, you know, just 9
days before a rate cut meeting. Uh but I
will imagine that the moderator will be
pretty guarded in terms of allowing any
kind of questions to get through the JPO
that could put him in an uncomfortable
position. I think JPAL will be pretty
good at dodging any kind of economic or
monetary policy questions. But really
what it is strange for them to do a Q&A
event like this during a blackout.
George Schultz was back in the 70s a
Treasury Secretary, Secretary of State,
Secretary of Labor. Uh he's got a big
legacy, uh big legacy of public service.
You know, Powell probably talk up his
integrity and his effort in opposing
Nixon price controls, which have a
little bit of a comparison to tariffs
today and a pushing for basically free
markets and free trade. Like there could
be some talk on that, but broadly, I
don't think we'll get any real clues
there on rate cuts. What's really more
likely to happen in my opinion is we're
going to get a hawkish cut and we'll get
our cut in December, but it will be
hawkish. And that's what brings up this
JP Morgan scenario that not only do we
have this potential 50 35% chance of a
recession where either the US falls by
itself with a 20% downturn chance or all
countries fall with a 15% chance. uh but
that they only actually give us a
Goldilocks chance of 15% for real growth
and that we might be stuck in sticky or
sluggish growth uh or a losing balance
scenario. 50% chance of sluggish or
losing balance with, you know, crappy
labor and then of course a combined 35%
chance of a recession only 15% chance of
real growth. And this comes in the same
piece where JP Morgan actually does have
a bullish price target of the S&P 500
hitting 8,000 by 2026. But it's very
interesting that in the same exact piece
where they say, "Yeah, S&P 500 could hit
8,000 and that's what's getting all the
headlines." In the same damn piece, they
say we really only have a 15% chance of
real growth and a 35% chance of
recession. Not great. Which sort of
delves into what we're seeing at Morgan
Stanley and uh some others. Like for
example, if I look at Morgan Stanley's
piece, uh they've got some interesting
notes here. So Morgan Stanley uh they're
looking at the consumer and what they
think is that the consumer is basically
going to be weak through about March and
April. You could see that in the charts
right here on the right. Goods versus
services spending. They actually think
we're going to be at a hole in the
fourth quarter and in Q1 mostly because
of tariff pull forward and taxes blah
blah blah whatever. Uh, and they think
that for now it's great that rich
households keep spending, but it's going
to take time for the lower part of that
K-shaped recovery to get a boost. And
that's going to come from lower rates on
credit cards and cars, as well as lower
inflation, but it's not going to come
until the second half of next year. So,
expect a consumer discretionary recovery
second half of next year. And in the
meantime, you got to get through the
labor market problems. So tax refunds
probably won't show up until March or
April. Uh I would guess that we could
stick a soft landing if we can make it
to May, like April, May with good
employment data. But keep in mind, you
know, somebody on my live stream was
like, "Oh, but Kevin Hasset's coming."
Bro, Kevin Hasset ain't coming for
another 7 and 1/2 months. Like, think
about that. Kevin Hasset won't actually
have a Fed meeting uh to attend until
June 17th because Powell's term ends May
15th. There's no Fed meeting in May. And
so June 17th would be the first meeting
that Kevin Hasset could attend to. That
is seven and a half months away. That's
not good. So you got quite a while to
wait to get to Kevin Hasset. You got a
lot of unemployment problems to get to
until then. And hopefully we've had good
Black Friday data. I mean, I know that,
you know, our Black Friday stuff has
been doing great, but but I also know
that people investing in, you know, the
Meet Kevin membership or in the uh the
Reinvest AI or even in in Reinvest the
company itself, these are investors, you
know, these are people investing in
their wealth. These are people wanting
uh to make money. These are, you know,
you you listening to this video, you're
not like that dime a dozen person who,
you know, wants to hear uh far-left crap
or far-right crap. Like, I feel like
you're a reasonable and rational person,
mostly in the middle. You know, you
might be 20 30% to one direction. That's
okay. It's okay to have, you know, a
side. Uh but I think that you're you're
looking for a true understanding of
what's going on in the economy and
what's happening. Uh, and based on that,
uh, really the consumer spending that
we're seeing outside of like these sort
of investment style products, uh,
Bloomberg is suggesting it's Gen Z kind
of stuff. Teenaged brands are winning
because they're pitching better deals
like Bed Bath and Beyond, Brandy
Melville, I don't even know what the
hell that is. Kendra Scott stuff, uh,
Etica,
whatever. like they're basically saying
it's it's these teeny bopper brands that
are doing well, but otherwise Black
Friday has been pretty crappy is so far
one of the initial assessments of what's
going on with consumer spending. Now
consumer sentiment has already told us
as much that consumer sentiment is total
trash right now. Not great. But really
what we should look at is the labor
market and the risk is that we normalize
on the beaver rich curve. We already
know about this. we normalize over here
because the more layoffs we have a
problem. Now there is an upshot and the
upshot uh would be that we actually end
up seeing a pickup in labor force
participation in 2026. So basically uh
or or sorry we see let me rephrase that.
They're saying we have seen an uptick in
youth labor force participation and if
we go back to a normalization next year,
participation doesn't expand as much,
which means the unemployment rate stays
more stable. Okay, so they actually
think the participation rate will
decline in 2026 and 27. The thing that
could really lead to a surge of
participation would be the stock market
falling and then a bunch of people rush
back into working and that'll shoot the
labor market, you know, way high in
unemployment and then you have your
recession. But here, uh, Morgan Stanley
is arguing they only see a 4.7%
unemployment rate going into 2026. And
this roughly aligns with what you're
seeing with some of these other
outlooks, which we're going to look at
in just a moment. Uh a more bearish
point of view is right here from US
macro strategy from MUFG
and they argue that deteriorate like
recoveries in markets happen very slowly
but deteriorations happen very rapidly
and they say that we see a risk of a
more rapid decline in the months ahead
as firms stop hoarding labor. And so
this really puts us through what I'm
kind of going to start calling like a
labor lull where you're probably going
through this decline right here and then
you might have even more of a labor
hole. And this is what we're going
through. And we're hoping that this
labor hole of Q4 is just temporary or
transitory and that we actually get back
to growth next year. That would be the
best case scenario. But the problem is
uh they see here that firms might stop
hoarding labor if Black Friday sales and
Q4 sales are bad or January sales are
bad. People are like that's it. We can't
hold you anymore. You're out of here.
And then you get this surge of layoffs
in February uh and January which then of
course drops spending and then what do
you have then? Well, I mean then you're
in a recession. Uh so we'll see.
Hopefully not obviously. Now, Morgan
Stanley also uh takes a peek at uh
investment themes. Obviously, artificial
intelligence being one of the most
desirable here. Something when it comes
to the market here is that so far it
looks like earnings remain resilient.
You're getting revisions written up on
earnings expectations, which is good.
They're bullish on things like Gap and
Macy's and Urban Outfitters. I think
they might be a little early on that
although we have seen some consumer
discretionaries come back like Dave and
Busters over the last four or five days.
Uh you know another one like Six Flags
has come back a little bit. Targets come
back a little bit over the last 5 days.
Uh but of course they think that AI
capex is really only going to be
constrained by debt which is exactly how
I feel. Debt is the only thing that's
going to hold back this artificial
intelligence spend that is otherwise
booming. They think agentic shoppers are
coming and that's going to be good for
Amazon, Walmart, and Wayfair, but maybe
bad for companies like Etsy or FGS. My
opinion pins on that. Uh, and then of
course they argue here that, you know,
sure, uh, there's a lot of fear about a
Gen AI investment bubble, but a lot of
folks are looking for, okay, well, can
we at least get real revenue? And this
is where I'm throwing us at least, you
know, I'm not trying to say we're like a
palente or meta or Google or Microsoft
at all. I'm just trying I put us up here
because we are seeing positive returns
already on our artificial intelligence.
So, you know, we've invested in
Blackwell chips. We've invested in AI
infrastructure. And what we're finding
is that just with the product we're
selling so far on AI, we already have a
positive ROI on every dime that we have
spent on artificial intelligence at
Houseack and ship investments and
developers and software development or
whatever. We have a positive ROI on that
already. Uh, and that's really
incredible. And I mean, like I I get it
because I also I look at the product
myself and as somebody who's done real
estate for, you know, 15 years, I look
at this, I'm like, "Oh my gosh, I could
put any zip code in the country in here
and I could prioritize what deals to
look at." Like, this is sick. I could
sort them by uh, you know, most recent
listings. I could sort them by potential
value, like what rating they're given.
This is great. And there are even more
features obviously coming out in 2026.
So, we're really excited about it and we
think people share that enthusiasm with
us. A and so if companies can do that,
you know, if a company like Palunteer
can prove to corporations, hey, if you
invest a,000 bucks in us, we'll get you
a $100,000 return, why would people not
throw more $1,000 at it, right? I think
that's what Palanteer seeing. I think
that's what Meta seeing and Google
seeing and Microsoft seeing. Now, of
course, is it going to turn at some
point? Sure. Like, at some point, there
just won't be any more debt to finance.
This is why we want to expand without
debt. Uh but uh and we are but this is
very interesting to me. This uh oh not
this one uh this this fin this cost of
debt right here. This AI capex might
also be relatively price insensitive.
Uh and so in other words companies are
like hey if we have to pay a higher
interest rate we will but we want to
attract that capital to uh to to invest
into into AI. So the boom kind of keeps
going which is interesting because it
kind of gives you this weird duality
like how on one hand is there a 35%
chance of recession but on the other
hand people are going to keep booming
money into artificial intelligence and I
think the only way to reconcile that is
with this A&Z research piece where you
basically say look AI is the economy
right now right we can't deny that AI
investments are a bright spot for the
economy no no way you can deny that we
expect a 25 basis point
But here's the thing. The weak labor
market could ruin everything. So like
the way I look at it is if we have this
pendulum, okay, this is like the the
pendulum over here and it's swinging.
Okay, and this right here is the
recession. I should really put that on
the left side. That'll be the left tail.
If that's recession and that's
Goldilocks and we're kind of just
swinging back and forth, what pushes us
to recession is only labor, right? And
you could actually have a labor-led
recession
and AI investment booms. It's just
you're not going to see that AI
investment boom in the stock prices
anymore. So, you'll still see the AI
investment boom go on for a while. So, I
think Bur's like years early on this
depreciation curve issue, but I find
this a somewhat interesting analysis,
especially since I mean, at least right
now, we're not seeing a risk of
recession yet as ANZ says, but as we
hear from other companies, hey, 35%
chance next year for a recession. And
when you look at what uh where is it? M
where are they? Where are they? I lost
them. Uh oh, I already closed them. What
uh what the Bears say, the uh the MUFG
group, when you look at their macro
outlook, it's kind of like well remember
deteriorations happen suddenly. And so
this is where I I'm of this middle
mindset where I say like it this is not
a question of to invest or not. like
definitely invest, but do you want to
invest in a place where if you get
rugpulled because some deterioration
happens all of a sudden and you weren't
prepared for it that you go bankrupt and
you start over or do you want to invest
in a way where if the market goes down
it doesn't matter you could actually buy
more. I like the latter. I think that's
great because you don't want to be
exposed to a poop oopsy dupes. So
that then leaves the December uh Fed
meeting. And the December Fed meeting,
unfortunately, is one that I think will
be a negative catalyst. It'll be
hawkish. And because I think they're
going to be hawkish, you're going to end
up having more sensitivity to data in
December. So, I get bearish after really
December 9th. So, we'll see. Uh now some
people are already hedging this like
what you're finding with Oracle's credit
protection. Credit default swaps at
Oracle are now at almost as high. Wait,
let's see here. The price of a 5-year
credit default swap is at risk of
toppling a record set in 2008
on uh borrowing, which is crazy uh
because that's scary, right? Like we
don't want to be in that kind of place.
uh Oracle CDS has hit a record 1.9
percentage points in 2008 and uh you
know right now we're sitting at about
130 120 130 so we're trending back to
what we saw in 2008. This could just be
hedging or it's an early warning sign.
That's also why people are looking at
gold and silver going okay oh people are
running to the precious metals and away
from risk assets because they're
nervous. might explain also why
Palanteer stock has had its worst month
in two years during the AI sell-off and
that was published today. So like even
today it couldn't really come back uh to
to that growth level. So you know we'll
see. At the same time you still have
venture capital funds that are quote
unquote snapping up zombies like brands
like Evernote and Meetup and Vimeo.
They're buying these companies, cutting
the staff, and then they're trying to
like milk them for what they're worth by
raising prices. Kind of wild. But, uh,
this puts together, I think, a very
consolidated view overall of of what's
going on out there. Now, I'll take just
a, uh, one last moment here just to
mention, uh, this Reinvest course is
part of the Meet Kevin membership. It's
going to have brand new lectures and
some really good quality stuff. You're
not going to want to miss. Uh this whole
course is going to drop along I mean all
the other ones are already out but the
new course will drop uh on um December
1st. So uh if you want to be in you know
get that new content it will come out on
December 1st which I'm very excited
about. Uh and then uh in addition to
that you are uh looking at reinvest.co
has its Black Friday sale as well. Uh so
take a look at that lifetime access to
the AI reinvest.co. If you get that you
could bundle up the meet Kevin
membership. Get uh lifetime access to
the meet Kevin membership over there
which comes with all the uh courses
lifetime access to those. That's why you
get the new courses as well. So existing
members will benefit from that as well.
Uh top 10 stocks to buy for the next 10
years. You know not personalized advice
obviously. And then if you want to
invest in house obviously make sure to
read the offering circular and uh read
the risk factors. So there you go.
Thanks so much for hanging out and uh
we'll see you in the next one. Goodbye.
And
>> why not advertise [music] these things
that you told us here? I feel like
nobody else knows about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, [music] man. You have
done so much. People love you. People
look up to you.
>> Kevin Praat there, financial analyst and
YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great to
get your [music] take.
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