Elon Musk to Sell more Tesla Stock [thanks also Twitter]
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Twitter's Us ad sales plunge 59 as woes
continue this is according to internal
forecasts and they're going to go
through some of the actual numbers here
but keep in mind what this potentially
means as a Tesla owner it's a potential
risk that hey is Elon boy to have to go
back and sell more Tesla now he's argued
that he's sold enough to sell for all of
2023 to float 2023 and maybe even into
2024 but if Twitter Revenue doesn't turn
around
he's going to end up having to well
probably continue to fund the business
somehow and that could be by selling
shares another company some people like
maybe he'll sell shares of starlink and
I think the answer to that is unlikely
that starlink will have enough liquidity
for this so uh Tesla will still be be
that door that he ends up having to
knock on now in order to try to support
the mission of course on my Twitter page
I now pay 1400 a month to tweet and have
this beautiful yellow check mark and a
check mark for myself and our and our
our team members just to support the
cause of of Twitter not going bankrupt
here all right anyway so Elon Musk
reportedly said Twitter's advertising
business was on the upswing almost all
advertisers have come back he asserted
and
and Elon does have an interesting way of
being able to kind of see the positive
and things just I I do too okay I see
the positive and things but anyone's got
a unique knack for talking about how
great something is when it's not great
at all so we've seen this with Tesla
well let's keep going
remember remember January demand is very
robust
there's no shortage of demand five price
Cuts later on the cars come on man come
on now Tesla did just get the full 7 500
tax credit for their model threes that I
have to say was impressive and almost
ingenious I was doing a little bit of
research on this and it looks like Tesla
might have actually been taking an
approach
to declare that the average number of
batteries they make is actually enough
to qualify their entire fleet for the 7
500 tax credit now the ah and ah and the
S the one who's gonna pay you this tax
credit has not updated their website yet
to indicate that this is true but the
Tesla website certainly does so clearly
they think they have enough of a uh a
legal argument to make the claim that 7
500 bucks is yours P.S I I think you
don't need more dudes on the front page
of Tesla showing how you could launch
the car you got to turn this into more
of the family car you got you gotta get
the ladies involved just my take test
like Tesla's demo is 25 to 45 year old
dudes they got that on lock
we we got we got to expand that just my
tank you know I I keep talking about
advertising with with Tesla and such and
here we go talking about Twitter
advertising and I'm just gonna keep
throwing out my opinions so that way in
the event that the gods are listening
maybe they could hear the criticisms
through through the fog of you know
Twitter in this case and uh and wake up
uh anyway okay so almost all advertisers
have come back as uh Elon Musk had
suggested but uh actually according to
the New York Times uh revenue from the
five weeks from April 1 to the first
week of May was 88 million dollars or
down 59 from a year earlier according to
an internal presentation of Pain by the
times so in other words revenue is
actually down 15 nine percent from the
time that Twitter was actually still
owned by Twitter that's quite a big
decline the company has regularly fallen
short of its U.S sales projection
sometimes by as much as 30 percent and
the performance is unlikely to improve
anytime soon I remember there was a
period where Disney was freaking out
because uh some like
a troll account ended up getting a
yellow check mark impersonated Disney
and then they were posting hate and all
this uh like some companies are a little
fussy about how the verification process
has gone and to some extent there's some
legitimacy in how the verification
process has gone a little awry but I I
do believe they're trying their best uh
what what I somewhat actually I would
say mostly disagree with is the
following here Twitter's ad staff is
concerned that advertisers may be
spooked by a rise in hate speech
pornography as well as ads featuring
gambling marijuana products and other
less desirable products to have your
well your product featured near I
personally haven't seen any of those
three or four things hate speech
pornography marijuana products gambling
products on Twitter that's not to say it
doesn't exist maybe anecdotal evidence
here isn't great so let's take a look at
what the New York Times is referencing
the New York Times I see this is an old
vid the New York or an old old piece the
New York Times is actually referencing
this Rising hate speech as uh December
2nd a December 2nd piece and this was
shortly about six weeks after Elon Musk
took over and there have been counter
studies to this New York Times piece
suggesting that may maybe the New York
Times might be miscounting or or the
research body I think it was a
university that ended up putting this
together might be miscounting uh how uh
they're actually
evaluating how many hate speech tweets
are rising because to some extent if you
have potentially I'm just going to make
an example here I'm not saying this is
potentially how the error was in in the
ways but on one hand you can have hate
speech that legitimately bashes a group
of individuals on Twitter and it
actually goes viral it gets a lot of
Engagement and then on the other hand
you could have potentially a bot farm
that posts you know a hundred thousand
tweets and they get zero engagement
because it's just a bot farm and then
all those 100
000 tweets are hate speech so now you've
got a hundred thousand tweets that are
hate speech but they get zero engagement
versus like a real hate speech that
actually goes viral that maybe gets a
million views right and it's just one
tweet so I do think there's potentially
a risk in measuring hate speech by uh by
by the the amount of uh time that hate
speech shows up on Twitter because if
you use a bot
like like a research tool or Search tool
and then you're counting no engagement
tweets then you're potentially really
skewing data so so I'd like to see the
controls of some of these uh you know
rise in hate speech arguments because I
I don't buy that rise in hate speech
argument however the New York Times this
branding of Twitter is experiencing a
rise in hate speech is unfortunately
probably
um well turning into what the New York
Times is good at and at reiterating
which is that oh sure their sales must
now be going down because obviously
there's a rise in hate speech I it's
kind of frustrating because it's like if
this was flawed and now everything
afterwards is being blamed on this you
almost kind of do make it seem like to
advertisers that oh no there's a rise in
hate speech on the platform it's a
little bit of a problem we've got this
former NBC Universal executive who's
starting work today uh obviously a lot
of people wishing her good luck
especially since another head of uh ad
safety just quit this weekend
uh at 90 percent of the company's
Revenue has previously come from ads
obviously Elon Musk has been trying to
prop that up by charging for uh the blue
service so you can get verified the
check mark or the yellow check mark if
you're an idiot you pay for that oops
but uh it'll be interesting to see how
this evolves when it comes to valuation
we knew that Twitter was substantially
an overvalued purchase back when Elon
bought it we knew that we talked about
it we said it we end realized it we went
through it so now the expectations are
that the company's worth about 20 Bill
versus 44. that's about a 55 decline
however internally I guess Fidelity is
marking them all the way down to 15 from
44. that's a decline of about 66 I'm
only disappointed that it's not a
decline of 69 percent
now uh here are some comments like
Twitter feels increasingly unpredictable
and chaotic and personally I just don't
see that I I don't see it that horrible
but okay some of the biggest advertisers
including Apple Amazon and Disney have
been spending Less on the platform than
last year but I also feel like
everybody's been spending Less on
Advertising large specialized banner ads
on Twitter's Trends page which can cost
about five hundred thousand dollars for
24 hours that's a lot of money or almost
always bought by large Brands to promote
events shows or movies but lately
they've been going unfilled ooh six Ad
Agency Executives who've worked with
Twitter said their clients continue to
limit spending on their platform but you
have to wonder how much of limited ad
spending is actually due to the economy
they cited confusion over musk's changes
of service inconsistent support from
Twitter and concerns about the
persistent presence of misleading and
toxic content on the platform I quite
frankly honestly believe that is a great
excuse in a bad economy
uh okay all right the rise of AI images
of an image that showed an explosion
near the Pentagon okay we already know
people are using deep fakes to do silly
things like that's gonna be true on
every platform I get what I guess all of
a sudden people are gonna stop
advertising on Reddit too because the
mems are doing too well I I know it's
memes but you know yeah tell me which
interview we heard the mems in anyway uh
actually it'll relate to Elon anyway so
uh some marketers are returning to the
platform great fantastic but anyway hey
this was him in uh China I'm pretty sure
uh so so the point is
yes there isn't necessarily the absolute
best growth at Twitter and that could
create some longer term potential red
flags for when and if Elon Musk is going
to need to sell again are we highly
concerned that this is a really big
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uh but yeah look at some point there is
a risk Elon might have to sell Tesla
shares again do I think that's coming in
2023 unlikely do I think that that's
really going to affect the stock at this
point not necessarily mostly because I
think Tesla stock is going to be one of
the recipients of the Nike Swoosh
recovery and uh what's crazy about Tesla
is not only does Tesla need to Nike
Swoosh along with the broader Market
here's the the Nike stock chart on a
weekly basis right now not only do we
actually need to make this a Nike Swoosh
which means you have a sharp down and
then a long up to actually turn this
into a swoosh but we'll probably have to
break these all-time highs of 414
because Tesla's going to have to start
pricing in where the Market's going to
have to start pricing in some of the
latest and greatest of Tesla which would
be hey it ended up Surviving this
recession or whatever the heck it is
we're going through period hey now
you've got project Highland which could
be a sub 30 000 model 3 which I've
regularly contended that the best 25 000
car would just be the model three some
kind of refresh for the model 3. so
we'll see what happens there then you've
got the Cyber truck obviously we'd like
to see some more ramping of the uh well
the Cyber truck in 2024 uh and the semi
and of course that doesn't price in
really the how good FSD is getting full
self driving uh or uh any any of the
other uh mega pack expansions that we've
recently been seeing as well as the
ramps of other factories it's not to say
Tesla's not going to experience a big
load of cash burn though remember at the
shareholder meeting when
that I patted myself in the back here I
convinced Elon to advertise
um haven't seen the implication of the
implications of uh advertising it but on
top of that remember that Elon suggested
the next 12 months could be quite
difficult for Tesla I believe one of the
risk factors for that is actually cash
burn I I really think it's going to be
quite incredibly expansive for Tesla to
manufacture uh well I shouldn't say
manufacturer because that implies ramped
for Tesla to create the manufacturing
facilities that they're building whether
that's Northeast Mexico
reinvestments into a Chinese expansion
or Shanghai expansion uh finishing the
ramp at Berlin and Austin the mega pack
Factory these are going to be extremely
expensive Endeavors and so the the
beautiful free cash flow that Tesla had
previously enjoyed I don't think will
exist anymore I'm I'm expecting negative
free cash flow and I expect Tesla's cash
to actually go from you know as as some
people have put it oh my gosh trying to
start so much cash I got over 20 you
know 19 20 billion dollars in cash I
expect that to actually go down pretty
quickly uh and and now keep in mind that
as we've reviewed the balance sheet of
Tesla previously in the last you know
say six months to nine months we've also
contended that most of their extra
balance sheet money their extra cash is
quite frankly just
payables or is offset by bills that they
need to pay again that's not bad
especially if you're a free cash flowing
company but unfortunately I I do think
there will be a risk that we're going to
go to negative cash flow but that's okay
because Tesla doesn't have any debt and
I do think that Tesla will be able to
raise enough cash either through
financing or even
I I know I know buckle up but yeah there
could be a stock offering in 2023
especially as the price goes up I would
guess that if Tesla stock ended up
knocking on the door of 300 bucks again
might see an offering an offering of I
would probably go for maybe a 10 Billy
offering at 300 bucks
that uh just to give you an idea of how
horrible that could be for the impact of
the stock I'm being facetious because
everybody seems to think that an
offering is so horrible remember folks
the point of the stock market okay the
point of the stock market uh is
to raise capital
okay so uh 300 bucks would put them
right about at a trilly again that would
be a one percent shift in in like in
other words with them raising 10 billion
dollars out of one trilly valuation is
literally selling just one extra percent
it's really not that big of a deal so
point being am I really worried about
Tesla stock in the near term
do I look worried
no I'm obviously not worried I I I think
the Twitter thing Elon should be Gucci
until the end of the year uh probably
early next year Tesla's money
yeah they'll probably be a raise if that
free cash flow sector goes negative
they'll probably be a raise I mean let's
look at it really quick so here was q1
what was q1 so net cash from operating
activities was two five we only had
about 400 Millies here free cash flow
I expect that's going to go negative
flat or negative flat would be okay
because if they could keep investing two
billies into the factories
and it doesn't go negative that's great
now you don't have to raise money but
let's say it goes negative to the tune
of 500 Millis a quarter
honestly even negative ability a quarter
that's four billies raising 10 billion
dollars gives you another two and a half
years of of basically investment money
for your plants and factories and
whatever else or if you spend twice as
much it gives you another say a year and
a half roughly a year and a quarter uh
it and then when you look at the balance
sheet here's their balance sheet you
know people seem very convinced that oh
but Kevin look Tesla had 22.4 billies in
cash it's so wonderful yeah I I agree
with you they've got lots of cash that's
fantastic but when we go over here and
we look at the bills that we gotta pay
right let's just take the top two over
here look at that that's payables and
accrued liabilities
15.9 Billy plus 7.3 already puts you at
23.2 billies of bills you got to pay uh
and we've got some long-term liabilities
in here and virtually nothing long-term
liabilities appear to be this line right
here here oh let's look at that it's
actually sneaking up look how it's been
rising actually oh interesting I didn't
even notice this this has been sneaking
up on me look at this other long-term
liabilities right here 3.8 3.9 4.3 5.3
almost six billies right here so we got
six billies of of longer term debt here
uh and then the uh deferred revenue that
current liabilities current portion of
debt current portion of debt is probably
what is that another 1.4 over there so
you add this all together
not considering deferred revenue or uh
uh the current portion of lease is
generally how I do my I do my own
balance sheet math in a unique way I
understand that but you do it as more of
a meet Kevin asset test so we got a 30.6
ish in bills and and debts here right
and uh offset that by about 22 foreign
cash you know that's great but you don't
really have a lot of cash left now sure
you do have inventory and receivables
but let's go ahead and drop that
inventory uh in value by about 10
percent so that's going to bring us to
about 13 billies 13 billies plus about
three in accounts receivable throw that
in what do we got you got another about
16 in potential here what does that
leave you with well if you offset all of
this you're left with about eight bill
that's good but now you're you're really
starting to run that eight billies down
you start running that eight Billy down
at the tune of say three billies a
quarter you're out of you're out of
money after two and a half quarters so
you had about two and a half quarters uh
at a break even on free cash flow
if uh if if you keep having to you know
spend lots of money uh on these
factories so so I do think that uh that
aligns with roughly somewhere like a
December January uh money raise
hopefully when Tesla's around you know
somewhere on maybe a trillion bucks
evaluation somewhere around 300 a share
do keep in mind though as we did with
the math them raising 10 Billy isn't the
end of the world it it is literally one
percent of the market cap because it
might have a larger impact to float
depending on how they raise it you know
it could move a little bit more than
that but but it's okay like Tesla's
going to get through this I'm not
worried about uh the sale of more stocks
I would be more worried about Elon
selling and then I would be about Tesla
raising money uh but then again you know
how much more is Elon gonna have to add
what another three billy or something
like that that'd be one-third of what
the company itself needs to raise
another third of a percent it shouldn't
be a big deal but the problem is it just
eats up the order book right and and
that's where it kind of hurts a little
bit uh and I think that's why we've seen
this crazy ride with Tesla so
long and short of it there's uh there's
kind of my wide breakdown of all of this
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