Only Stupid Homebuyers make this Mistake [Don't Do This!] - WSJ's Home Buying Bad Advice.
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ah the good old Wall Street Journal bad
advice for home buyers here and you
should know it in fact this is a mistake
if you're a home buyer hate to say it a
lot of people make all the time yet
almost nobody talks about this obvious
thing that you could do to save
potentially a lot of money over the long
term let's talk about this we'll also
balance it obviously with the risks and
we'll give the Wall Street Journal
credit where credits do but first let's
make this very clear the Wall Street
Journal runs an article on tips for how
to get a 6% mortgage and their argument
use points buyers can use Mortgage
points to lower their interest rate if
getting to 6% or under 6% is important
to them each point reflects 1% of the
loan amount and might be paid upfront to
your lender one point on a $300,000 loan
would cost
$33,000 each point lowers your interest
rate by about a quarter of a percentage
point for the life of your your loan so
initially that might sound like a good
advice wait a minute I can pay a little
bit of money now to have a lower
interest rate forever H that could be a
good investment right we could argue for
hey I'd rather pay a little bit more now
and then save money over 30 years right
because those are a lot of payments
that's usually the way lenders like to
sell the idea of points the idea of
selling points is very simple it makes
people feel like they got a better deal
even though they're paying for it the
reality is they're probably making a
massive mistake first let's understand
the game a little bit okay when you go
get a quote from A lender let's say the
quote is
7% usually you'll get or you can ask for
what's known as the zero point rate it's
basically what's the best interest rate
right now now if you want to pay points
you might be able to get a lower
interest rate for example if we want to
get down to 6% maybe we have to pay Four
Points just like the Wall Street Journal
suggests or maybe you want to pay two
points and you want to get to about 65%
or one point to get to
6.75 the point for the lender is it's
more desirable to sell a 7% loan so they
don't have to charge you anything
because they can go to the market and go
I got 7% who wants it if you want a
lower rate they'll give it to you
they'll just charge you for that debt so
they'll charge you a couple points and
rather than getting paid by the market
they're getting paid by you for a
portion of that loan so basically make
that payment up front and you're
compensating the lender for giving you a
lower rate that's great everybody always
talks about getting a lower rate this
way just like the Waller Journal but
they're making a fatal mistake they're
totally forgetting that you could
actually go in the opposite direction
and why might that be beneficial well
let's think that through for a moment
what if I could get -2 points for a 7
and 1 12% loan or what if I get -4
points for an 8% loan whoa whoa whoa why
would I want to go up an interest rate
oh because you're getting money negative
points would mean you are getting money
now there's a limit to how much money
you can get the limit is what your
closing costs are but let's say your
closing costs on a deal or
$116,000 and you're buying a
$400,000 property well Four Points times
$4,000 1% of a $400,000 loan would be 16
Grand you'd basically have no closing
costs so all the money you would have
taken out of your pocket to pay for
closing costs you're not paying now
that's interesting if somebody then
comes to you and says hey would you like
to pay a higher interest rate for a
little bit of time but have $16,000 more
dollars in your pocket well you might
say well how long that is the magic see
the magic you've got to consider is are
you going to refinance this loan most
people refinance their loan with normal
interest rates every seven
years but interest rates are expected to
plummet very soon as the Federal Reserve
starts cutting interest rates so
basically anybody who gets a home loan
now is probably going to want to
refinance within the next few years
assuming they can now that's a danger
anytime you assume you can refinance and
you don't consider the potential for job
loss or you're income going down or
whatever there is a risk that you get
stuck with that loan but if you're
comfortable with that risk I think most
of us would argue yeah I mean look if
rates right now are 7% or whatever Plus
or midus we'll probably refinance as
rates come down great if that's your
point of view you should not pay points
you should take negative points so let's
consider two options at a time here for
a moment let's say your lender goes to
you and says hey you could get a
$400,000 loan at 7% or 400 at 6% you
might say oh well of course I want the
6% but then they say hey but that's
going to cost you four points or
$116,000 well you better have that darn
loan for at least 5 years because it's
going to take you about 5 years to break
even on just having paid
$116,000 just to save
$263 per month the stupidest thing you
could do would be to pay all of these
points and then refinance after one two
three or four years because you've then
literally lost money bad investment
decision you'd be better off taking the
zero point
loan but you could be even more extreme
if you think you're going to refinance
you could jump over to the negative
Point side take the 8% rate assuming you
qualify which is going to cost you $274
more per month about
$3,288 per year but wait a minute the
difference between 6% and 8% is actually
16,000 that you're not paying plus
another 16 which means the difference
between the 6 and 8% is 32 ,000 in fees
you could literally pay
$32,000 in fees for roughly 10 years if
you look at that annual difference 10
years so you literally have 10 years to
refinance if you go for the negative
option versus the positive if you
compare it in that direction right
usually I don't like to compare it that
way I generally like to say if you're
going to take negative points it's
because you think you're going to
refinance within the next 5 years usual
rule of thumb you're going to refinance
you could even say if you want to
include opportunity cost call at 7 and a
half years because you have more cash in
your pocket today right cash today is
more valuable in the future so I usually
say rule of thumb 5 to 7 and a half
years if you're going to refinance
always go negative now this is not
personalized Financial advice for you
I'm a real estate broker I'm also a
licensed financial adviser is just a way
to wake people up to this now the other
items they in here look they do make an
argument here oops wrong side over here
they do say boost your credit score yes
boosting your credit score will help you
get your rate down usually the best
score is 740 above 740 it doesn't make
much of a difference anymore finding a
discount on a home yes great idea but
they don't actually talk about finding a
discount on a home they're talking about
shopping lenders to find a discount on
the actual loan fine yes you could do
that as well you just have to be careful
sometimes the cheapest lenders have the
poorest service in actually getting your
loan done now maybe that's not a big
deal because maybe you're an easy
borrower who's an easy borrower W2 you
get a paycheck every week or two weeks
and you got like no debt easy the
hardest borrowers self-employed run
businesses multiple tax returns crazy
writeoffs crazy debts whatever the more
in that direction you are the more you
probably want a really good lender handh
holding you through this because it's
kind of hard to get approved for a loan
these
days then of course yes you could get a
discount on a house now I do want to
give a fairness here to the Wall Street
Journal they do say think about whether
you will refinance in the next 5 years
if you're considering buying points they
say that but they literally don't say
why they don't say why and that's the
big mistake not only do they not tell
you why which I just explained they also
don't tell you that you could go
negative so I don't understand what it
is with people's problem but nobody ever
thinks about taking negative points and
that is a substantial mistake that
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out the zero millionaire real estate
investing course but yes boost credit
get a discount on the home shop the loan
but be careful it's not worth losing a
deal because your lender sucks cuz
you're using some you know random broker
that uh doesn't have a local reputation
to protect and then consider negative
points but just be careful if you can't
refinance in the future you get stuck
with that higher rate thanks so much for
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told us here I feel like nobody else
knows about this we'll we'll try a
little advertising and see how it goes
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