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The Psychology of Market Cycles.

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hey everyone meet kevin here i was

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hoping i would not see the day that i

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had to make this video for course

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members for at least

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10 years unfortunately the time may be

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now

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it is once again time to talk about the

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macro economic cycle the business cycle

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the real estate cycle and folks

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this is how we are going to connect the

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psychology of money the psychology of

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buying the dip the broken cell button to

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macro economic cycles so that way you

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graduate to the next level of

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understanding personal finance and

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building your wealth it is so critical

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to understand market cycles

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and this video is not designed to

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encourage you to

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change your strategies to buy the dip or

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to sell this video is designed to

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show you how to prepare

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for changing market cycles and

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to provide a reason for the confusion

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that can happen at different points in

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the cycle

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but first i want you to know

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that the very first thing

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that i did when i became a real estate

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agent during the last crash

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was i created a graphic

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for this

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right here

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this is my graphic

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the real estate cycle

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and while looking back there's so much

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more detail i could throw in this

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there's so much more i could do i want

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to pay homage to the fact that when i

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entered in the bottom of the market

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dealing with the disasters of short

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sales and foreclosures and seeing the

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pain of excess debt which is a problem

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that we have in our country right now i

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created this and i actually printed it

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out uh and i had a picture frame

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with the real estate cycle this on it on

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uh on a canvas so it looked like a piece

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of art and i would bring it with me when

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i was talking to buyers or sellers and i

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would explain to them where i believed

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we were in the market cycle and why i

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would use this as a tool for talking

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about the fears of the double dip

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recession uh which

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or the shadow inventory of foreclosures

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that were coming up the same thing that

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i do on youtube now or in the programs

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is the same thing that i used to do in

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the coffee shop with clients which is

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providing facts data and statistics to

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back up my points rather than just

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emotions which we have to talk about

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emotions emotions are very very

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important so let me give a quick

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explanation of this

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this is an oversimplified explanation of

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the real estate cycle essentially the

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real estate cycle

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back in 2010 2011 2009 uh was was

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clearly in in this area where we had

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experienced declining price rent and a

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new construction we clearly had had

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noticed this and what i would do on a

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daily basis is i would track inventory

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numbers and what was fascinating was

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housing inventory in the city that i

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live in went from about

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450 homes on the market which is a

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massive amount normal market by the way

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has about 200 homes on the market we

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went from about 450 homes on the market

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where somebody would come to me and say

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hey i'm looking for a three bedroom two

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bath and i'm this particular part of

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town and all of a sudden i'm like okay

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here's your list of 20 of them you know

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we should probably narrow the list down

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to the top five that look good based on

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the pictures we don't have to go to 20

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of them get overwhelmed right it was

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crazy it was really really crazy times

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because there was so much and people

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were always wondering like oh kevin i'm

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worried what if prices go down more it's

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like well look at where we are in the

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real estate cycle according to the real

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estate cycle we pretty much are at the

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bottom especially since what happened in

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2010 actually more towards 2011 what

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started happening we started seeing that

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housing inventory number towards the end

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of 2011 beginning in 2012 start rotating

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down

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fast we went from 450 homes to the

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market to 300 homes on the market boom

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like that

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we actually ended up at the beginning of

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2013 with just 80 homes on the market

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which was insane we had this crazy crazy

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uh shift in the market but we could

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watch this happen week after week after

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week for about a year and a half because

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real estate market moves a little slower

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and so we were clearly in the absorption

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of excess supply phase where it's like

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oh there's so much supply and all of a

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sudden that's dwindling

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and so when march and april of 2013 came

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around we actually ended up seeing

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prices jump 20 in the matter of two

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months

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but we saw that coming for a year and a

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half because of this absorption of

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excess supply right

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okay good so supply started getting

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absorbed we got into a tighter market uh

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it became a lot easier to rent

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properties out and then prices started

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skyrocketing uh they they have increased

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very well over the past uh probably well

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i would say from 2011 to about 2019

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prices uh increased quite normally and

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substantially but we've gone into this

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this more almost exponential phase

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let me use a little bit of a better

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graphic than using uh just a circle here

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we've kind of done

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a little bit of this with pricing where

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we hit our bottom here

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in 2011

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started rotating up this right here is

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where you saw housing inventory go from

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about that uh 450 number to uh you know

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200 well 300 200 right and then all the

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way down to 80. so we saw this it got so

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low we got to this point where folks

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were like oh my gosh how am i going to

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make money as a real estate agent

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there's nothing to sell

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and what happened prices jumped

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substantially about 20

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and then we continued on real estate

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market relatively did this but now since

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the pandemic we've really done

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this

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uh and going back to the real estate

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cycle usually when you get to this sort

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of euphoric stage this this excessive

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runaway stage

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you tend to increase new construction as

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much as possible to to produce more

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homes for people where they want to live

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because the prices are so high the

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margins are so good this is why lennar

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and kb homes are killing it and they're

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producing more properties or

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you know

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building and planning new properties

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like crazy to bring these to the market

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the issue then

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becomes twofold what happens towards the

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top of the real estate market well as

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the real estate market starts

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potentially peaking interest rates tend

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to go up

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to to quell

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excessive growth and when rates go up

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especially mortgage rates

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we know that real estate prices can come

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down uh about 10x the interest rate

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increase so for example if our market is

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expanding at let's say ten percent per

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year and interest rates go up point six

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percent like they just did then uh we

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would see a negative six percent

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headwind to real estate prices but a

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positive ten percent momentum movement

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right uh of prices going up and so now

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we're net four percent growth but that

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can also end negative if all of a sudden

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we're like oh prices aren't going up

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that much oh it's getting a little it's

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getting a little expensive to go

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shopping again oh the stock market's

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getting a little funky uh oh oh right

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and all of a sudden euphoria can very

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quickly turn into over supply and all it

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takes

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is a handful of investors who own a lot

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of properties to start flooding the

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market and it can happen very very

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quickly with properties to start quickly

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dampening demand for housing

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and all that has to do with fear

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psychology so we've got to talk about

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that see

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fear psychology applies to the stock

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market as well

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generally what we want to do is buy the

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dip but we have to overlay cycles if we

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look at the cycle the best times

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obviously to buy the dip and i told my

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clients this a lot although i would

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always draw a line here i'm like you

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know if you're gonna if you're gonna try

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to time the market you don't need to be

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perfect you don't need to be right down

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here in the middle but ideally try to

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buy the bottom half

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and usually the bottom half is is uh

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we we know when the bottom half is

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happening because we start seeing

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indicators decline at a less rapid pace

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where we start rotating i think when

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folks hear oh my gosh someone's trying

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to time the macro economy the thought is

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you're perfectly trying to get out at

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the tippy top and perfectly trying to

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get out of the bottom that's next

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impossible right that's not going to

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happen just like trying to predict what

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earnings are going to do next to

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impossible just like trying to predict

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whether bitcoin is going to be at 50 000

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next week or it's going to be a 20 000

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next week who freaking knows nobody

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knows on that short term you could use

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technical analysis to help guide you

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but we all know you could have breaks

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there's breakups or breakdowns right

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technicals could falter so we we don't

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no we don't have a crystal ball but we

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do know macroeconomic cycles and we know

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that things change but let's understand

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the psychology of what happens when

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things change and this is critical this

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is absolutely critical and we're also

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going to talk about

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whether whether you should actually do

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anything okay hold on uh we're going to

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google this thing

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it's called the cell excel

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image

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for for the stock market and this this

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is quite quite powerful this is a pretty

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popular cartoon

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and uh here it is

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so the psychology of markets

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is that when things are really doing

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well

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everybody's buying everybody's happy and

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when we get our first dips

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you know we have little corrections in

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the market like let me speak a little

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bit towards towards example here we have

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uh the pre-election dip we have the

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february and may dip of 2021 the

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election dip of 2020 right those dips

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these are things that we can buy the dip

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on and the reason we can buy the dip on

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this is because

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of the federal reserve

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blowing wind at our back and supporting

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us we have an accommodative congress we

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have an accommodative fed and there are

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no massive red flags that indicate we're

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at the top of a cycle now we'll talk

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more about being at potentially at the

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top of the cycle but let's quickly

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understand psychology and and why do we

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feel emotional when when things turn

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right where does that emotion come from

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so

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this this cartoon essentially starts out

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with hey i've got a stock here that

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could really excel and somebody hears

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excel oh i wonder what could excel you

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know the curiosity when somebody says

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something new it creates sometimes shock

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or curiosity like huh what they're doing

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what huh that's that's kind of this face

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here which in my opinion

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uh it would be an example of let's say

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somebody who is regularly a long term

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sort of buy and hodler and then somebody

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sells that that creates a little bit of

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what and so you get more folks paying

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attention excel what oh did i hear cell

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wait what uh what's going on over here

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it's hell uh and then this is where

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where first you get anger uh you get

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confusion and anger of of folks wait

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wait no this is this is the opposite and

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anytime you're in a cycle and a cycle

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changes the macroeconomic cycle

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switches or changes and shifts or in a

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different position in it emotions flare

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because it's different look it is easy

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i'll tell you it is easy easy easy in

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2011 to see why everybody didn't buy the

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dip you know why everybody didn't buy

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the dip in 2011 on real estate because

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everybody thought real estate sucked

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that's when you know you're getting

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closer to the bottom of a macro economic

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cycle when everybody is telling you oh

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you're in real estate that sucks man

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that's a tough market i would go to

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trader joe's the people at trader joe's

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like real estate match oh tough market

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man now i go to trader joe's you know

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what they tell me

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dude man bought a house couple years ago

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up 200 grand man i don't really have to

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work here anymore

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you see what i'm saying okay those are

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indicators of changes in where we are in

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the cycle

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i don't know that filming this here on

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january 28th my 30th birthday that we

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are with certainty at the top of an

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economic cycle

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but we have red flags that indicate we

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might be due

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for

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the turn in the cycle no guarantees we

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could always have manipulation in the

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market but if we are at the top of a

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macroeconomic cycle the pain could be

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outsized and last for a very long time

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we're going to talk about time in just a

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moment but first

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and we're going to talk about sort of

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risk benefit analysis as well but first

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let's go back to to psychology here

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so

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once

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when the first people start selling you

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know when people are selling when

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everybody's buying they're just an idiot

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bear right when when somebody who's

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usually a bull turns to a bear and you

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have an inflection point

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there's a lot of emotion not only

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that it comes from individuals watching

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that person or paying attention to

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somebody but there's also a lot of

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emotion that that can come within that

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person like for example if uh if if you

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change

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directions because you start seeing

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massive

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five-year two-year macroeconomic changes

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and you're concerned about a potential

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macroeconomic shift then

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that's that's a point where you're it's

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almost like you have to reprogram all of

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what you've been doing if you're during

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the expansion cycle let's let's go back

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to that real estate cycle during that

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real estate expansion cycle you're like

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your mentality is okay buy the dip on

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everything every fixer-upper that comes

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up i'm a buy no second thought and you

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program yourself to being on this side

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of the cycle when you're on this side of

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the cycle the programming is it's

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automatic it's by the dip don't worry

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long-term investing rules uh we we uh

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you know no matter what it's it's gonna

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end up correcting uh back to the upside

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it'll be fine selloffs are normal blah

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blah blah blah right you are programmed

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to buy when you are on this side

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uh especially hopefully when you're on

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the bottom half because you're in an

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expansionary

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cycle

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when you get to a peak or potential peak

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or you believe and this is the tough

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part you believe you're ready peak you

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have to reprogram all of that you go

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from hey let's get the private jet let's

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go spend the money in cabo let's buy

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everything by the dip man

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bed's always here first that changes

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to

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uh-oh we got to start paying attention

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to these red flags because they're

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indicative of a potential top no

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guarantees but they could be indicative

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of a potential

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macro top not a short term top not like

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ah things are selling off a little bit

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because of the election coming up or

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whatever right some data's bad but don't

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worry those red flags aren't that bad

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right

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whatever like we get through that over

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here it's not like real estate was

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straight up either i know i drew it kind

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of straight up but it had vacillations

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you know

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whatever

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wasn't a big deal

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the bigger issue is when you get

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confounding macro red flags we're going

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to talk about those again in just a

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second

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then why again do we have emotion here

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we have emotion at the peak because now

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when you're at a potential peak

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everything changes the first thing that

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changes is you have to start programming

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into your own mind okay look i'm a big

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fan of guns and butter i'm a big fan of

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saving money but now i gotta ramp it up

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now we're gonna save even more

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now we're going to cut from our

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discretionary spending even more

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now we're going to double down and work

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harder and build more cash and build

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more wealth as soon as we can

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just in case we do go into an extended

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bear market see folks

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miss this and and this is what's so so

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critical okay

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people like to say oh well i'm a long

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run investor i'm just investing for the

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long term look at the the s p 500 over

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the long term it's basically like this

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all the little gyrations are this that's

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fine that's totally true

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but a problem that we run into when we

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look at a line like this so we end up

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extending a massive you know 80-year

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line like this and forgetting that

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missing one year worst case in a worst

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case scenario if you missed one year and

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this was the normal line let's say you

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missed the year right here maybe your

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returns from having been the same path

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might be slightly under that right if

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you sat out for example a year or six

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months like how much is the nasdaq or

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the s p 500 really going to go to

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all-time new highs in 2022 who knows it

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could be a minus one percent year it

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could be a plus five percent year okay

16:53

is is that five percent worth the risk

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and this is something you'd have to

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evaluate yourself right but anyway what

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what folks

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generally miss is not only

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evaluating your risk tolerance in the

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event that we are at the top of a cycle

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uh but the the psychological pain of

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changing

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so again we are in when we're in this

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part of the cycle by the dip by the by

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the everything's good wind is at our

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back we're in this part of the cycle we

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everything we do changes we become again

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hoarders by the dippers cash orders okay

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now before we keep going we've we've got

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to address this right here take a look

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at this right if you invested in the s p

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500 right here in 1973

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i kid you not it would have taken 20

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years

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for you to break even

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if you would have invested right here

17:43

during the dot-com bubble and maybe you

17:45

even started buying the early dip it

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would take you about 14

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years to break even

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so yeah people like to draw these

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average charts where they just draw a

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line and they say oh long run investing

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long run investing great great great

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always good yes

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for

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the vast majority of folks that is the

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easiest thing to do

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but macroeconomic cycles do exist

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and

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you've got to ask yourself if you think

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you are at a potential top in an

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economic cycle is it worth just

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hodling maybe and not buying the dip

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because the first dip could just be the

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beginning of the dips right

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look look at the relative strength index

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hop on over to the s p 500 people use

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this technical indicator wrong all the

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time and it drives me nuts you go over

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to the s p 500 look at the march of 2020

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dip over here relative strength index

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right here uh any anything under this

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line means we're oversold anything above

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the yellow line here means we're

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overbought and so folks like to say oh

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yeah yeah buy when the uh when the rsi

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is below 30

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that's a sign that we're oversold and

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right now here january 28th we're in the

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oversold territory the s p 500 is down

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like what eight percent or whatever

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right well look at this folks the s p

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was down eight percent

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ish eight to ten percent right here and

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we were oversold according to the

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relative strength index the downside is

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it sold off another 30

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in the month thereafter

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and the only reason this is the scary

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part the only reason

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and this is also going to go back full

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circle to the red flags of our economic

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cycle

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the only reason the market bottomed out

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was here on march 23rd the federal

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reserve bailed us out the federal

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reserve said they will bail us out now

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i wanna i wanna draw this on a real

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estate cycle with you but first i gotta

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give you some examples here so you can

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believe this look at this

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stock market crashed in 1987 you might

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have heard of that famous monday stock

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market crashed in 2000 and i'm gonna

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write the bottoms here okay uh well no

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i'm not gonna write the problem so stock

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market crash in two thousand uh stock

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market crashed in 2008. stock market

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crashed briefly briefly in 2018 stock

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market crashed in 2020.

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these are your stock market crashes of

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the last what is that 35 years okay

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the stock market bottomed in 87

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because the federal reserve came out and

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said

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hey we'll bail you out don't worry

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this was the first time the fed did that

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the usually it was congress that would

20:29

sort of have to bail markets out this

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was really the first time

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in

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bubble

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massive euphoria you know that excel

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phase uh or or

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i should say rather that by by phase uh

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was was quite frantic uh in the cartoon

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here which i don't even think we

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got to that part of the cartoon yet

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right but uh see how excel becomes i

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can't take this madness anymore i'm

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leaving goodbye goodbye bye bye bye bye

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right this would be your confusion part

21:00

of the market again your bottom and then

21:03

bye-bye and then you get that euphoria

21:04

again right which turns into a cell but

21:06

anyway

21:08

uh jump in over here

21:10

you get the euphoria of the dot-com

21:12

bubble

21:13

geez this is ridiculous the market

21:15

bottoms

21:16

in q1 of 2003

21:20

why did it bottom out

21:22

because the fed

21:25

came in with massive interest rate

21:27

reductions so fed bailout

21:30

and discussions of continued support

21:33

whatever because there's pain

21:36

interest rates started going up again

21:37

after two three years because things

21:38

started getting excessive again in 2005

21:41

and six but anyway fed bailout 2008

21:45

market crashed one day at bottom it

21:46

bottomed in exactly february of 2009

21:50

why

21:50

because even though in 2008 congress

21:53

authorized 700 billion dollars of

21:55

spending it wasn't until february of

21:56

2009 that the federal reserve authorized

21:58

one

22:00

trillion dollars of bailout money and

22:03

that's when the market bottom

22:05

federal reserve

22:07

on december 19th of 2018 said hey you

22:10

know what we're not going to do three

22:12

rate hikes next year instead we're going

22:14

to do two

22:16

that was a u-turn in the federal

22:18

reserve's

22:19

tenancies and that led the market to go

22:22

up within within a week it started going

22:24

up it didn't go up quickly it

22:26

it slowly bottomed and slowly started

22:29

going back up

22:30

important to keep in mind in 2020 we

22:33

bottomed out

22:35

on march 23rd why did we bottom out

22:37

because the federal reserve said we will

22:39

print an unlimited amount of money

22:41

unlimited qe right

22:42

so

22:43

now what i want you to ask yourself is

22:46

if all of these years here are economic

22:48

cycles

22:49

where are we in the federal reserve

22:52

economic cycle right now

22:54

let me ask you that

22:56

so let's draw instead of the real estate

22:58

cycle or the business cycle let's draw

23:00

the federal reserve cycle this is the

23:02

federal reserve cycle

23:03

market crashes market turns around folks

23:06

when does the market turn around

23:08

at the bottom the market turns around at

23:10

the bottom when the fed

23:12

bails us

23:14

out

23:16

that's when the market turns around at

23:17

the bottom this is when we start ticking

23:20

back up slowly and the federal reserve

23:23

continues to accommodate the markets

23:25

this is an emotional spot because it's

23:27

like oh my gosh we're getting bailed out

23:29

it's confusing it's like wait does this

23:30

mean bye no no it's a false bottom it's

23:32

a double dip recession oh no and you get

23:35

people angry that other people are

23:37

buying because it's like no it's a fake

23:38

out

23:39

that emotion is really high at turning

23:42

points the most emotional times in

23:44

investing are right there that's when

23:47

everybody's freaking out and mad at

23:48

everybody else it's also when mistakes

23:50

are made in terms of uh you know not not

23:53

coming across potentially as crystal

23:54

clear because

23:56

like when we're when we're on this

23:57

turning point

23:59

it it can happen so quickly that we're

24:01

like um

24:02

okay wow this was a really quick change

24:05

we got to adapt to this in a business

24:07

cycle time to start cutting back time to

24:08

start saving money you know that's a

24:10

quick change on families and people can

24:12

get mad and people getting upset

24:14

it's normal though at these periods

24:16

within a cycle and so what what is the

24:18

top

24:19

well

24:20

historically

24:22

it's when the fed

24:23

tightens

24:25

or begins to tighten uh

24:28

however

24:29

this has to be coupled with and this is

24:31

this is crystal clear this is like where

24:33

i shouldn't say crystal because this is

24:34

critical

24:36

fed titans

24:38

in

24:39

exuberant

24:42

market

24:44

see the federal reserve talked about

24:46

tightening in 2013 and started

24:48

tightening in 2016. the market didn't

24:51

crash why did the market not crash

24:53

because everything was pretty chill we

24:56

were clearly uh at more of this phase of

24:59

the cycle you know 2013

25:01

uh 2016 was really over here how did we

25:04

know we were at these levels well

25:06

because we didn't have massive glaring

25:08

red flags that would indicate we're in

25:10

an exuberant market and uh the federal

25:12

reserve needs to tighten

25:14

the federal reserve was not saying in

25:16

2013 or 2016 that oh

25:20

valuations are excessively high you know

25:22

what they were saying

25:23

we need to keep making sure we

25:24

accommodate the economy

25:27

because we want this expansion to be

25:29

broad-based and help people of different

25:31

races and sexes and make sure that

25:33

everybody can enjoy this economic

25:34

recovery which we're finally starting to

25:36

see so the federal reserve's tone was

25:38

hey we we still got to accommodate yeah

25:40

we're going to raise rates a little bit

25:41

but we still gotta accommodate

25:43

that's why the market actually did well

25:45

during those rate cycles right because

25:47

the economy was not overly hot

25:50

what is the federal reserve telling us

25:52

right now

25:53

they are

25:55

they're so clear about this i don't

25:56

understand why people don't understand

25:57

this they're telling us a few things

25:58

number one they're telling us they don't

25:59

care about the stock market

26:00

that what they care about is inflation

26:02

and maximum employment

26:03

so in other words if prices go down

26:05

that's not our problem that's not the

26:06

fed's problem is what they're saying

26:07

they're also telling us that

26:10

what you have

26:12

is a situation of massive inflation with

26:15

excessive valuations they believe that

26:18

excessive valuations lead to more risk

26:20

in the economy

26:21

why because excessive valuations

26:25

ultimately mean

26:26

that risk goes up people take on more

26:29

debt debt becomes more burdensome if

26:31

debt becomes more burdensome then the

26:33

risk of bankruptcy goes up and if that

26:36

spreads throughout the entire economy

26:39

then it's entirely possible that the

26:41

market could uh not just correct but

26:45

crash and lead to the loss of faith

26:48

in the united states dollar

26:50

and that is the most important thing

26:51

that the federal reserve can try to

26:53

preserve is the full faith and credit of

26:55

the united states

26:56

so no they don't care about the stock

26:58

market to the extent that it doesn't

27:00

affect uh jobs negatively and quite

27:02

frankly so what if the market corrects

27:04

there's still plenty of time right now

27:05

where people are like oh no there's

27:06

plenty of hiring going on it doesn't

27:08

really matter s p's down 10 or whatever

27:10

right it doesn't matter

27:12

so

27:13

the fed titan's in exuberant markets

27:15

right here january 20th 2020

27:17

two

27:19

we have the federal reserve telling us

27:21

valuations are excessive

27:23

not only are valuations excessive

27:25

but we don't care about the stock market

27:27

we care about getting inflation down and

27:30

see that's the big red flag that we have

27:32

right now is inflation

27:34

was thought to get better in 2022 and

27:37

the big u-turn and it i tell you it

27:40

comes fast this is where people like oh

27:41

my gosh how do you change your mind so

27:43

quickly oh it's flip flop this

27:45

folks

27:47

when we got hit in the face

27:49

with the minutes of the december meeting

27:52

from the federal reserve

27:54

and we combined that with the latest

27:56

data on inflation and earnings calls

27:58

that inflation was getting worse not

28:00

better

28:01

and inflation was broadening we know we

28:04

have a massive red flag

28:07

and so the question is

28:09

when we have a massive red flag and the

28:10

federal reserve is telling us this

28:13

how are we going to get how could we say

28:15

we're here how could we actually expect

28:17

to go to higher valuations

28:20

we can't

28:21

until the fed u-turns

28:23

and so folks are wondering kevin what

28:25

are you doing right now in a

28:27

macroeconomic cycle change

28:29

well

28:30

we know

28:32

the best thing to do in a larger

28:35

change that could last years

28:38

is obviously

28:40

to

28:40

build cash by whatever means necessary

28:43

and be prepared to buy

28:45

over here

28:46

you can only buy the bottom when you

28:49

have money you cannot buy the bottom of

28:51

the market and i'm telling you you can't

28:52

even buy the bottom half of the market

28:54

when you have no money

28:56

all the people who wanted to buy homes

28:58

in 2010 who didn't build up cash during

29:01

2007 and the beginning of 2008 all those

29:04

folks were not able to buy homes cheap

29:06

because they potentially got wiped out

29:08

they didn't clean up their debt they

29:10

didn't reduce their spending they didn't

29:11

build cash

29:13

now the people who just bought and

29:15

huddled that's fine for i would say 90

29:19

plus percent of investors that's fine if

29:21

we draw an average of of uh stock prices

29:24

you're good you sat through four or five

29:27

years of pain or potentially more

29:29

depending on when you bought you had to

29:31

sit through that

29:33

but sure as long as you got as long as

29:35

you were more exposed to the market than

29:38

not you did well it's fine time corrects

29:41

all sins and so this is where you have

29:43

to ask yourself

29:44

are you willing

29:46

to bet

29:48

on your belief of the macroeconomic

29:50

cycle

29:51

but if you're wrong

29:53

you got to get back in quickly and so

29:55

this is dangerous and risky

29:58

so

29:59

you have to ask yourself what you want

30:01

to put yourself through what kind of

30:03

stress do you want to put yourself

30:05

through

30:05

do you believe that the red flags

30:08

indicate we are at the top of an

30:09

economic cycle if they are there's no

30:12

harm in taking profits

30:16

and preparing even if that means having

30:18

to take some losses like for example

30:21

let's say this is what your net worth

30:23

did over the last uh you know 10 years

30:25

or whatever and all of a sudden your net

30:27

worth went down like 20

30:29

and it's like oh my gosh but i don't

30:31

want to sell because i used to be here

30:34

okay well if you believe the trajectory

30:37

for the next five years

30:38

is that

30:41

then then potentially if you can avoid

30:43

that fall here and have more cash to buy

30:46

you could actually extrapolate your

30:47

wealth more

30:48

now i want to be critically clear this

30:51

is all risky and if you're wrong about

30:54

timing the macro economic cycle you've

30:56

got to make sure you get back on train

30:57

america otherwise train america is going

30:59

to leave you behind

31:01

now i want to give you exactly what my

31:03

thoughts are right now as of january

31:05

20th 2020 first of all i have no

31:06

freaking idea

31:09

when

31:10

we are going to get a u-turn in

31:12

inflation data that is the red flag goes

31:14

away or jerome powell u-turns i have no

31:17

idea but if we got a u-turn and that red

31:19

flag went away i need to get back in the

31:22

market because i gotta be long train

31:24

america i can't bet against train

31:26

america my whole life i will get left

31:28

behind i will get screwed selling uh and

31:31

not being in the market you will get

31:32

screwed being out of the market for the

31:35

long term

31:36

but

31:38

but but but

31:40

if you see massive red flags that

31:41

indicate we are on a downward trajectory

31:43

that is potentially likely to continue

31:48

then it is entirely appropriate to say i

31:51

believe we're at the top of an economic

31:52

cycle

31:54

i'm going to sell

31:56

even if i've already taken a little bit

31:57

of a haircut i'm going to wait on the

31:59

sidelines until i get evidence that

32:02

being at the top of the economic cycle

32:04

is over

32:05

and potentially that is when there is

32:07

actually blood on the streets when

32:09

people are really freaking out right

32:11

and that's when you buy you don't have

32:12

to be perfectly in the bottom remember

32:14

you don't have to time it perfectly you

32:16

have to be the bottom half of the darn

32:18

cycle you don't want to be at the top

32:20

half of the cycle

32:21

and

32:22

you got to ask yourself are we at the

32:24

top half are we in the bottom half

32:26

i think it's pretty damn obvious where

32:27

we are

32:28

uh but anyway

32:30

there's been a lot of question

32:32

about uh emotions involved in this

32:35

uh and the top and bottom

32:38

are always emotional because we're

32:39

changing directions for changing

32:41

strategies and when it comes to

32:44

the psychology of money no matter

32:46

whether it's real estate or stocks

32:48

you've got to ask yourself

32:50

do i want to play the economic cycle or

32:53

am i willing to potentially sit upside

32:56

down for four or five years you

32:58

almost certainly will be positive again

33:00

in the future

33:02

almost certainly

33:04

but are you willing to hold through that

33:06

and either way

33:08

you've got to determine or is is the

33:11

risk of being out of the market worth it

33:13

because when you get a turn sometimes it

33:16

can happen fast

33:18

sometimes you can get a rebound very

33:19

very quickly so keep that in mind uh

33:22

usually the turns uh do take more time

33:24

because people regularly think that

33:26

they're just fake out rallies so it it

33:28

takes quite a bit of time i would say at

33:30

least in the stock market uh u-turns

33:32

could take

33:33

quite frankly six months you're not

33:35

gonna get the best pricing as if you

33:36

timed the market perfectly at the bottom

33:38

but but uh

33:40

that's that's generally unrealistic

33:43

just do your best and wait for u-turns

33:44

in the macro economic cycle so i hope

33:48

this helps on the macroeconomic cycle

33:50

and folks we'll see in the next one

33:52

quick append it's also worth noting that

33:54

in japan you could have invested in the

33:56

90s and still not be break even uh but i

33:58

do want to just provide uh thoughts

34:01

you've uh on on resources like how do

34:04

you know uh that the economic the macro

34:07

indicators are shifting you've got to

34:08

pay attention to what actually moves

34:10

markets right now that's the federal

34:12

reserve but it doesn't always have to be

34:14

the federal reserve there are other

34:15

things that can move markets uh there

34:17

are things that move markets short term

34:18

and they're things that move markets

34:19

long term short term would be more like

34:21

your daily kind of news cycle oh war

34:24

here or you know geopolitical tensions

34:26

here saber rattling here blah blah blah

34:28

right that creates your sort of daily

34:29

ups and downs your daily fluctuations

34:31

macro you're usually looking at

34:34

indicators of gdp indicators of

34:36

recession

34:37

the inverted yield curve

34:39

you're looking at what the federal

34:41

reserve is doing are they blowing wind

34:43

at your back or are they providing

34:44

headwinds

34:46

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34:47

those are critical

34:48

very very critical you don't want the

34:50

yield curve to invert

34:51

uh that is the sign of the bond market

34:53

pricing and the potential for a

34:54

recession coming uh as uh short-term

34:56

bonds are more expensive or provide

34:58

higher yields and long-term bonds which

34:59

is bizarre

35:00

uh you you um

35:04

you really gotta pay attention to the

35:05

fed

35:06

you should become a student of the

35:08

federal reserve if you want to time

35:10

macroeconomic cycles you should be a

35:11

student of the federal reserve

35:13

absolutely critical uh and reading a lot

35:17

about the federal reserve studying prior

35:19

crashes huge i think one of the things

35:21

that they should do in schools is not

35:22

teach like ancient history like egypt

35:24

and stuff like that they should teach

35:26

like market history

35:28

that would be the best history like

35:29

studying all the different crashes uh

35:31

but like in detail you know it's like

35:33

now we're doing egypt now we're doing it

35:34

wrong why

35:35

you know persia or whatever no why

35:37

mesopotamia come on man

35:39

teach something that's useful anyway

35:41

thank you

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