Tesla is Getting CUT OUT & Nio Bankruptcy Warning
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electric is right now reporting that
Tesla might lose its 7 500 vehicle tax
credit for uh its model 3 and that's
because uh and not enough of its battery
is apparently manufactured in North
America via free trade that article is
actually right here this is straight
from Electric and they argue here that
basically Tesla has told its employees
that it expects to lose the full 7 500
tax credit on the model 3 because the
batteries come from China since January
some electric makers have been enjoying
a surge in demand thanks to new federal
tax credit program this by the way will
end uh March 31st unless you're in
compliance with uh sort of these uh
these requirements that a certain
percentage of the batteries are
manufactured in North America that could
be Mexico that could be Canada uh it
could be America uh by the way I have I
have a belief in terms of why this is
going on along with some other
commentary on Elon Musk he's been a
little active the last couple days on
Twitter as well but my my belief
regarding what's going on here is uh
it's awfully convenient that this is
happening the last week of the quarter
now you know I'm not trying to put on
tin foil hat here but I'm also trying to
think as I would if I were over at Tesla
uh if the reality is I would love to
argue that Hey look it's not us but
you've only got seven days left to check
out on that coupon code or something
like that right that's basically what
Tesla is able to achieve here hey you
got seven days left if you want that 7
500 credit buy now uh get off your butt
and buy now or uh or sorry you lose the
tax credit so on one hand it helps push
demand for Tesla Model threes and
possibly also other electric vehicle
but the problem is there aren't that
many other electric vehicles that are
available to buy I'll give you a little
anecdote here so my uh one of my family
members is uh super anti-tesla they
refuse to buy a Tesla ever they just
don't want a Tesla uh and so they're
they're super anti-tesla and uh they've
told me hey you know what they're
looking they're in the market for an
electric vehicle uh but ideally a hybrid
is what they're looking for and uh
they're saying they pretty much can't
find one uh they were giving me numbers
like how they were somewhere around 69
or 70 I think it was 68. 68 Toyota
dealerships in California and over the
next year they're expected to get 180
electric vehicle or hybrid RAV4s and I'm
like that's two per in the next batch
for what the next you know six months to
a year uh who knows if that's accurate
what what uh What uh they're being told
you know maybe that's just a way to sort
of sell these uh hybrids but it seems
like uh there is a substantial amount of
more demand for electric vehicles and
yet companies can't produce enough of
them
so with the exception of Tesla which
makes this article especially important
because I I think really what it's doing
is it's trying to yell at the Biden
Administration and say hey your your
guys's requirements are too tough too
soon we don't have enough capacity yet
across the United States to actually be
able to fulfill the demand that people
want so in other words it what would be
brilliant 4D chess move here is uh quote
unquote leak uh that oh no get ready to
tell people you're not getting the 7 500
credit anymore which is the perfect
reason to text message all the people
who have been interested in Tesla's and
ask them hey are you interested in a
Tesla because hey that tax credit goes
away at the end of the month see look
it's in the Press here's the coverage so
it's a fantastic way to get some extra
uh sales uh you know for the end of the
quarter but it's also a way to pressure
the United States it pressures the
government it uh in potentially saying
hey you know you you really
ought to uh loosen the rules on these
requirements because you didn't release
guidance uh for this tax credit coming
into effect uh until basically like
February uh and so thank you for waiving
some of the requirements for the first
quarter but now people are going to be
pissed and they're going to buy less
electric vehicles and after all isn't
your goal uh climate change and making
sure we could minimize the impacts of
climate change and so if that is your
goal then get off your butt and uh
loosen these tax credits for a little
bit of time it's also really convenient
that at the same time uh as as this is
happening with these tax credits Elon
Musk happens to reply to Joe Biden
bragging about green energy so uh Joe
Biden here's the Tweet actually I'll
just show it to you now there we go Joe
Biden writes in my first year in office
we protected more lands and Waters than
any president since JFK we've also made
the largest Investments to fight climate
change ever today we're building on that
momentum by protecting additional
natural wonders well what does Elon
reply to this Elon replies with
um the banks are melting so he's
basically trying to discredit
uh Joe Biden's climate push as as
obviously the president can't walk and
chew gum at the same time because well
he's he's old uh that's somewhat of the
attack here from Elon Musk now don't get
me wrong big fan of Elon Musk uh but uh
and it's a great opportunity to poke at
the president but then again everybody
pokes at the president so that's no
surprise but uh the reality is hey wait
a minute
you know the government can have a green
energy policy at the same time as
working to resolve a banking crisis
that's why we have a a government so
they can do multiple things at a time
now do they do those things uh well
probably not but I believe they they at
least try try the best that they can so
uh as dysfunctional as the government
can be but anyway
uh at the same time as all of this is
happening uh I don't know why but the
drama again is circulating about Elon
Musk having taken a picture and I want
to talk about Tesla margins as well
really quick but uh first I just quickly
want to hit it uh it's circulating again
this this drama that uh Elon Musk took a
photo uh with uh with basically what's
deemed to be one of the uh potentially
largest uh propagandists is what she's
being called in Russian media here is
the photo of her taking a selfie with
Elon Musk at uh the um uh the soccer
game uh the World Cup uh and uh it's
really remarkable because it it seems as
if Elon doesn't even know with whom he's
taking a picture and so a lot of a
controversy was circulating around why
is it possible that one of the top
anchors for Russia and and potentially
Putin's government can just walk up and
take a picture with Elon shouldn't
shouldn't Elon with potentially the
largest Fleet of private satellites on
Earth be a little bit more either
careful or protected or or should those
around him be screened better who knows
those are just ideas I I think that's
really just the media professing their
love for Elon uh so then we gotta hit
margins because there's been a lot of
talk about these as well specifically
what's going on with uh with China so
now there was an interesting op-ed
yesterday in Bloomberg and it talked
specifically about how Tesla is really
setting off this price War and the price
War in China is is expected to at least
potentially lead to a lot of
bankruptcies uh and so people are a
little concerned about that and because
well people don't want car companies to
go bankrupt they want more car companies
uh as a choice but anyway uh what are we
getting uh Neo the CFO uh of Neo told
Bloomberg quote we need to go through
this price War at the beginning of the
year and then we expect the industry to
go through some profound consolidation
it's almost consensus that China now has
too many automakers now that's
interesting because this is exactly what
happened back when the Model T was very
popular with Ford back in the early
1900s you ended up having dozens of
different automakers and basically all
of them went bankrupt in fact there have
only been two American car companies not
to go bankrupt Tesla is one of them so
uh Neo is basically alluding to what
happened in the early 1900s as
potentially happening again now uh of
course Neo and xbang and byd think
they'll be able to withstand some of the
additional price Cuts coming and the
competition coming to the Euro to the
Chinese market but I find it fascinating
that you've got uh basically Tesla
Leading The Way of these price cuts to
where now you have other companies
worried suggesting
um we think a lot of car companies are
going to go bankrupt it's not ideal for
Consumer choice but it is capitalism
that is what happens after all you tend
to get consolidation during rough times
during times of stress and again that
that tends to be a good thing for
capitalism because you want the best
quality company needs to survive even
though that may come at the expense of
joblessness for some although they'll
find work somewhere else or or the loss
of choice for the consumer now I think
the big a joy over at Tesla is the
ability to maintain these large margins
and these margins that Tesla has
unfortunately are going to shrink in the
in the case that we do end up seeing
that tax credit disappear which we
probably will see that tax credit of uh
7 500 at least have to 37.50 again I
think it'll make a great push for uh end
of the quarter sales so I actually think
it's a phenomenal thing in the short
term for Tesla and I think it'll dial up
enough pressure on the White House and
the IRS and Treasury Department to
actually probably revise or loosen their
guidance again mostly because the
country wants more electric vehicles to
be bought not less the point of the
inflation reduction act isn't to punish
companies it's to get them in in tune
and actually start using locally
produced batteries but how do you do
that when there aren't enough batteries
in fairness there just aren't enough yet
in in uh America while at the same time
you have a supply a glut of batteries in
China and that's something that that is
freaking out especially the Commodities
people the Commodities people are are
losing it over lithium prices plummeting
now look they're still way above uh
where where we were pre-pandemic but I
think it's very interesting because you
know even the New York Times is talking
about these falling prices and
potentially the supply got so take a
look at this here this was just uh from
a couple days ago here lithium the
common ingredient in almost all electric
batteries has become so precious that
it's often called white gold but
something surprising has happened
recently the metals price is falling
helping make electric vehicles more
affordable since January lithium prices
have dropped nearly 20 according to
Benchmark materials via the New York
Times here even a sales of electric
vehicles have soared Cobalt another
important battery metal has fallen by
more than half copper essential to
electric motors and batteries has
slipped 18 percent now of course these
are down off of Highs but instead what
it does is it actually helps sort of
rebuild some of the margin that you're
seeing at companies uh as as you can see
here as uh essentially the commodity
prices seem to almost align with the cut
and prices of Tesla's 3 and the Y by the
way it's worth noting the model Y which
I think is the best vehicle for Tesla uh
that anybody could buy for Tesla I
actually don't own a model y I just say
that having owned model X and S I think
they're overpriced and then having been
in a model 3 and why I think what for a
little bit more why would you not get
the size of the y That's not to back on
the three uh but it's just to say that
marginally I think there's an advantage
to the why over the others now uh if you
look at the delivery options which I
think is pretty interesting if you look
at the delivery options right now for or
Teslas you can see the model Y is
sitting at an April to June delivery so
you have to wait at least two weeks for
the model y but potentially as long as
uh two and a half months from model y
performance uh you're you're at a march
to April uh guideline as much as you are
with uh with the model three you're
sitting in March to April as well uh
looks like they've updated their website
as well new model 3 and why Vehicles
qualify for the electric vehicle tax
credit this is in effect before an
update to Federal guidance which
Treasury and IRS intend to issue no
later than March 31st so it looks here
like this to me this is just political
pressure being put on by Tesla and it's
brilliant if I were Tesla I would be
doing the same thing don't don't like
absolutely I think they're doing the
right thing it's it's a brilliant
leverage tool to remind people about
Tesla's uh essentially their version of
a coupon expiring you know
uh for electric vehicles a major
roadblock is cost exactly and this New
York Times article I mean you know the
White House is reading the New York
Times this just helps Tesla as well uh
following price of EV is or lithium is
going to help promote uh EV sales uh
price could fall potentially much
further because demand for the metal has
not risen as some as people expected by
the way I will say that's one of the
reasons I personally don't invest in
Commodities is Commodities are very
heavily based on speculation of what
could happen that's my opinion okay I'm
not trying to offend the commodity Buffs
I think Commodities are extremely
important I just think the price of
Commodities is usually so highly
speculated on that it's very difficult
to actually get a commodity at a sort of
a value price or or a fair price so to
speak mostly because you you tend to buy
into these run-up hype cycles of
Commodities and then they crash when as
as demand starts waiting and people get
fearful
anyway uh some analysts suggest this was
caused by slowing growth of the electric
vehicles in Europe and China after
subsidies expired but other industry
experts say the drop suggested that new
mines and processing plants were solving
lithium problems sooner than many
analysts had thought possible that's
another thing what Commodities are very
expensive what happens you have to think
from a capitalistic point of view what
happens when a commodity gets really
expensive guess what we end up inventing
a new technology to end up extracting
and refining that material faster and
better and at higher quantities than we
had ever thought possible before I mean
I remember being a child uh and thinking
well I still am but I I remember
thinking about oh no we're going to run
out of oil by the time I'm 55 because I
remember being a little five and
six-year-old oh no no more oil you know
or it probably sounded more like
oil
but anyway uh you know uh I remember
that being a fear as I was growing up
even in first and second grade you know
being seven and eight oh no we're gonna
run out of oil and you know what
happened in the 2000s uh oh wow look at
all this cool fracking technology we got
oh wow the US is actually turning into a
major oil producer in the 2010s oh wow
the ability of us fracking doubled
between 2008 and 2019 and and I'll put
double wow look at that the same thing
just happens over and over again with
commodities uh I mean and you don't you
don't have to actually really be an
investor in Commodities to see that
happen you just have to be a student of
history but anyway even after falling so
much lithium prices remained so high
that Mining and processing the metal is
usually unprofitable the metal uniquely
suited for Batteries because of its
ability to store energy costs five to
eight thousand dollars per ton to
produce it to produce it sells for 10
times that amount uh so this is where
Elon Musk has regularly come on and said
uh you know come on to interviews or
earnings calls and said hey if you want
to print money get into lithium given
those fat margins investors and banks
are eager to invest in or lend against
mining or processing facilities you
can't have project profit margins that
are 10x what it costs to extract this is
true it's going to comprise at some
point because more people are going to
enter the industry completely agree but
others including members of the Biden
admin are less confident the supply of
lithium has to increase 42-fold by 2050
the support of transition to clean
energy we have to find additional
sources of Supply you know but what's
interesting is there's this argument
that there's not enough yet you know
Elon regularly says there's plenty of
lithium it's everywhere it's just a
matter of extracting it oh how
convenient look at this there's plenty
of lithium in the world but it was not
considered very valuable until sales of
EVS began to take off in the last few
years the mining is not what's driving
the cost it's available it's the
availability of processing facilities so
need more of those most refiners are in
China and few managers and Engineers
outside the country know how to build
processing plants so see now it's a
knowledge Gap but but I mean that'll
fail I mean we've got chat GPT how to
build a lithium processing facility
supplies of lithium and other critical
materials are national security issue
last year the uh Administration
established the mineral security
partnership a group that includes the EU
and 12 industrialized nations to locate
mining opportunities and finance them
the energy department is Doling Out 3
billion in Grants to create a domestic
battery supply chain in addition to the
inflation reduction act which Biden
signed into law last year provides tax
credits for battery production
fascinating what do we got over here we
got uh people uh what look like uh
digging for Cobalt which is also not so
ideal because of uh child labor concerns
uh in in parts of Africa but uh anyway
here uh American Battery Technology
attributed the recent decline in lithium
prices to Temporary factors like us oh
oh that's not good
um hold on a shark if you could still
hear me
um
turn on office
idiot
sorry I'll be right back it appears you
can still hear me you just can't see me
uh anyway so what else here there was a
time when people believed electric
vehicles would grow very rapidly then
the reality of how fast they were
actually growing caught up
um
expects lithium prices to fluctuate all
right whatever so these Investments
could turn out to be money losers if
lithium prices fall yeah you know that's
the other thing is is so many people end
up flocking into these commodity
projects that at some point will end up
with a glut of production I'm really not
concerned about running out of lithium I
I really think it's nonsense and it's
all fear-mongering mostly because of my
belief of what happened with oil but
also what you tend to see with other
Commodities that tend to be very
important
so there are also other batteries that
are you know end up being developed I
mean there are uh I want to say uh a
sulfide carbide batteries being produced
uh obviously solid state batteries could
potentially not use lithium so they're
they're various ways to get around these
uh lithium iron phosphate batteries that
are manufactured in China right now
mostly China specifically in partnership
with catl that uh that that uh oh how
convenient look at this uh that helps
Supply and Tesla's vehicles but uh or
other manufacturing process but look at
this China's a lithium uh iron phosphate
battery cathode material capacity glut
will surface in 23 to 24 question mark
question mark and you got a little
picture here the catl batteries China
has been the most aggressive in the
world oh it's behind a paywall what a
bummer but anyway there's been a regular
talk about uh this this glut of of
Supply specifically over at uh at catl
uh mostly because EV demand has slowed
down in China and now fortunately uh
there's a lot of competition and and uh
Tesla's vehicle registrations from an
insurance point of view are doing
phenomenally fantastic growth year over
year so far into uh the first quarter
here of uh 2023. uh but uh yeah let's
take a look at this here let's see
lithium and nickel miners are taking on
additional costs to produce more refined
products the race to obtain battery
material has intensified market dynamics
have changed however heightened
competition is coming as prices for the
raw materials weaken amid concerns that
supply shortages could actually give way
to gluts lithium has fallen obviously
it's still trading higher than where it
was pre-pandemic and pre uh you know a
lot of the uh the EV rushes
but uh these lower commodity prices are
fantastic thing now uh Kathy Woods said
on CNBC yesterday or maybe it was the
day before yesterday that she believes
it was the commodity price cuts that are
actually what are leading to Tesla's uh
essential price Cuts I don't think
that's true just yet I actually think
that uh Tesla and their margins are
likely to get hit uh before those
lithium prices or commodity prices come
through now Tesla generally doesn't
hedge that much against its commodity
prices however some of its items are
entered into contract so you could end
up uh and we're not exactly sure which
ones but some of them for example you
might just buy regularly like cop or you
might just pay spot for it anytime you
need it uh and something else like
lithium you might pay contract for now
if you do a lithium in a contract you
might end up having higher prices for
longer and that could hit Tesla's
margins for a little bit so I do worry
that if we hop into the margins for
Tesla and projections for Tesla we could
end up seeing their margins uh suffer
for at least the first uh one to two
quarters of 20 23 here and now uh I
think that if we look at 2023 and the
projections at least they're give a
Tesla and their last earnings call gave
us a little bit of a heads up that we
could approach 20 percent as a gross
margin uh well before we end up hitting
30 percent again that's going to hit
some of the numbers for Tesla and I do
believe that the market is not fully
pricing that in so I think there's a
chance that could create a little bit of
a buying opportunity but uh we'll we'll
end up seeing now uh then then uh you've
got some articles here also talking
about this sort of expansion here of uh
additional planned lithium output or
capacity all of this really contributing
to the idea that we're going to see uh
continued gluts of lithium now uh it's
also interesting that it looks like byd
according to Bloomberg is a quote
capable of carrying out another round of
cuts it looks like Bloomberg's actually
citing a few analysts from Morgan
Stanley who wrote on March 9th that the
price war that was initiated by Tesla
might come on faster and more severely
than expected as we expect a market
reshuffle they suggest that Neo xping
and Lee Auto have strong enough balance
sheets to stay self-financed for at
least 18 months but that the price war
is coming
uh well okay so we'll see but uh this
this idea that uh many of these uh uh
competing companies will end up going
bankrupt I actually think will lead to a
large consolidation in the electric
vehicle industry and you'll end up
coming out of this recession uh much
stronger as a company that survives it's
not going to be everybody right but
let's say hopefully knock on wood
someone like Tesla and byd survives
they'll have killed off a lot of the
other competition or they'll certainly
during the recession have slowed a lot
of the competition like even GM and Ford
they don't even expect to be profitable
well certainly forward we we haven't
gotten disclosed financials from GM on
this but we don't expect Ford to be
profitable on electric vehicles until
2026. Toyota doesn't expect to introduce
fully electric vehicles or a larger line
because they've got some already but uh
in more mass scale and more lines they
don't actually expect to introduce
electric vehicles broadly until 2026
it's kind of wild but anyway this gives
us some insight into
Tesla which uh which is pretty useful
now some people say like oh but aren't
Lee and uh X being backed by CCP the CCP
like Neil well I mean if you look at a
company like Neo yeah they they there's
uh there's a local government that uh
owns some of Neo so of course there's
this incentive to prop up potentially
these local uh businesses and it's not
to say that uh China won't prop up those
local businesses but I think this
argument that China wants to somehow
punish Tesla because it's American is
actually quite nonsensical because if
you read Chinese news which you know is
mostly propaganda but then again a lot
of our uh uh you know
news is probably uh uh propaganda as
well but anyway if you read into uh some
of the uh Chinese news like the uh South
morning China Post that's one that I
like to read uh you actually find so
many call compliments for Tesla from
China and I think the reason that you do
is specifically because China wants to
promote the idea that Manufacturing in
China is a good thing that you shouldn't
go to Taiwan that you should end up
staying in uh China because we helped
the most productive facility for China
come into existence Giga Shanghai and so
yes there's a price war and that is
going to extend but
oh that's an interesting sound I'm
getting a little ad here on the South
China Morning Post uh but anyway uh they
argue here electric cars one of the few
fast-growing sectors will be less of a
growth driver for auto sales in China
this year because of shrinking fiscal
Revenue making it difficult for the
government to extend subsidies on
purchases new EVS will be less
supportive of sales growth this year and
there's been no indication that there
will be a renewal of cash subsidies so
that's also helped lead to some form of
a glut in lithium but then also you have
macro factors I mean just the fact that
we're walking into a recession but I
think it's very interesting that when
you look at China from uh sort of a
propaganda point of view what what would
they rather do would they rather slam on
uh on on China or slam on Tesla or
promote Tesla as as basically their love
child
you know their foreign
these come manufacturable with us that's
my take I mean it makes logical sense to
me but then again you know logic doesn't
always enter into uh the equation of uh
of what happens uh in in geopolitics but
I do think that's uh that's uh something
strong to consider
uh see look at this yeah here I found it
there we go so look at this this I think
was interesting
China uh outgoing Premiere vows even
greater business opportunities for
foreign investments analysts say that
attracting more foreign investment
especially from the US and Europe could
help curb decoupling but restoring
positive business sentiment cannot be
done overnight
while acknowledging the external demand
that external demand will be relatively
weak this year Beijing is sending strong
signals that it intends to better
integrate global trade while vowing
China's appeal to foreign investors
vowing to enhance that is leadership has
also set its sight on the comprehensive
Progressive agreement for trans-pacific
partnership a high-end trading
investment pack in line with aphrods
blah blah blah blah National people's
Congress reiterated this okay Fantastic
look at this right here Zhang and this
other person have a directive to
facilitate the launch of landmark
foreign funded projects that's the goal
of China right
and right here it then says call to mind
what happened with Shanghai with the
Tesla gigafactory which which was one of
their major achievements China's major
achievements during their term in
Shanghai or the mayor's term over here
in Shanghai whether more projects like
this will be added or launched to
something we should look forward to so I
find that very interesting you know to
me I think that's a fantastic way of
saying hey we uh we're in a position
where investing in China
is actually a good thing and uh China
wants to keep that investment going of
course we're facing a pretty large macro
recession a banking crisis at the same
time uh you know you've got some uh
multiple worldwide disasters but uh I
think it bodes well for Tesla because if
China is trying to prop everyone up uh
and attract more uh investment if
commodity prices are falling for
whatever reason and it's likely that
other automakers are going to go
bankrupt well that ends up being a boon
for Tesla as a Survivor that is if they
survive anyway we could talk about that
in the courses on building your wealth
link down below changing the pricing
after this live stream all right here's
a piece that was just posted on Ford
Ford's EV business lost two billies in
2022 offset by big profits in Fleet and
Legacy units Ford says Thursday it's
electric vehicle business lost 2.1
billion in 2022 on an opera operating
basis oh good lord the loss was more
than offset by a 10 billion operating
profit between its ice and Fleet
business now that's uh your regular gas
guzzler and then Fleet of course would
be like it's Transit line
uh and and uh commercial Van Lines
so uh Ford said Thursday it's EV
business lost 2.1 billion the Detroit
automaker expects 2023 to unfold along
similar lines
forecasting a 3 billion dollar loss for
its electric vehicle unit adjusted
earnings of about 7 billion for its ice
unit and adjusted earnings of about 6
billion for its Fleet business the
financials are the first look at a unit
uh Prof at unit profitability as Tesla
unveils a new financial report or for
the Tesla as Ford unveils and do
financial reporting structure aim to
give Wall Street a better understanding
of how its EV business is evolving the
reformatted reports follow sweeping
reorganization separating forward into
five businesses Ford blew its
traditional ice engine business Ford E
the electric vehicle business Ford Pro
for commercial and government Ford next
which includes
non-automotive Mobility Solutions and
other future Tech
okay at Ford Credit my gosh we've
essentially refounded Ford this is a
joke
I mean basically what they've done is
they've now separated the money loser
from the profitable business and what's
going to happen is they'll probably just
keep milking the profitable businesses
until those go bankrupt and then the
hope is that they could be profitable on
electric vehicles before they go
bankrupt on their legacy business
because if they go BK on the Legacy
business because everybody goes to EVS
they're going to have a little
oopsie-doopsy problem trying to
transition so the goal is how could you
become profitable on EVS before you go
bankrupt on gas vehicles
and hopefully there's not too big of a
gap because if you go bankrupt first
it's still not profitable on EVS or you
haven't gotten them to scale then you're
going to go bankrupt here too
so I I don't know it's going to be very
interesting
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