A Massive, *SUDDEN* Market U-Turn | The Coming -20.5%.
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wow now this is a big U-turn there's
this Investment Bank that's pretty well
known on Wall Street and they have a new
call that I think is worth analyzing
some details to but rather than only
give this perspective what I'm going to
do is I'm going to give you this
perspective but then I'm going to
balance it with the opposite point of
view from another Investment Bank so
that way we can kind of try to see okay
who's got some arguments here let's take
a look at this because some of the
takeaways here are absolutely
phenomenally interesting for what's
going on on the market and what to
expect going forward Beyond of course
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oh boy take a look at this particular
report over here this one is a little
overwhelming
when you first look at it but don't
worry I'm gonna break it down for you so
first of all the their first argument is
that the FED has really rushed to raise
rates they call this the FED being in a
hurry and in their view what they find
is when the treasure yields increase the
S P 500 price to earnings multiple
decreases and remember when we see a
decrease in multiples when we see
multiple compression we obviously tend
to see the S P 500 full and so what they
argue here is that as long as the FED
stays the course of hitting this sort of
peak level of tightness and they don't
get tighter than the level of tightness
that they're at now then peak real
yields may already have been achieved
which means the only direction would be
down and when treasury yields real
treasure yields go down price to
earnings ratios go up for the S P 500
and this is actually bullish for stocks
and they'll tell you exactly which
stocks as well in just a moment but to
reiterate their argument in terms of why
they're making this call now they say
that you shouldn't fight history
fighting history is like fighting the
fed and over the last 60 years the S P
500 has returned almost nothing
absolutely nothing between May and
October wait a minute how is that
possible because over the last 60 years
the S P 500 has always been sort of
returning somewhere between seven to ten
percent how can it return zero between
May and October well that's because they
argue that between November and April is
actually when you get most if not all of
your cumulative returns in fact they
have a chart that breaks this down for
you take a look at this if you invested
only in the periods between May 1st to
October 1st your Returns on an original
hundred dollar investment
uh from 1962 to today 2022 would
literally grow from about a hundred
bucks to a hundred and eighteen dollars
that's it and if you only invested
between November 1st and April 30th you
would essentially be over here at the
green line and then actually being fully
invested outperformed look at that fully
invested always outperforming no
surprise here generally time in the
market beats a timing the market now I'm
just gonna make a quick side note there
because some people think yeah but Kevin
you try to time the market dude I saved
a lot of money in getting out of stocks
that would have done terribly in a
recession you have to reallocate your
portfolio Okay that doesn't mean you're
trying to time the market it just means
you're repositioning to prepare and then
you Diamond hand through whatever pain
you set yourself up for but anyway
really incredible chart here so when we
go back to this sort of denseness of
what they try to tell us they say that
basically hey look once the markets
realize oh man we might actually be at
Peak yields then people might rush to
buy treasuries now I don't know if we're
actually going to see that just yet
personally because there's a lot of talk
that Peak yield might actually be five
percent for the 10-year treasury but
I'll tell you today bonds are rallying
which actually means yields are falling
take a look at the tenure today sitting
at
4.125 falling off of its four and a
quarter level seeing sort of potentially
at least intraday this sort of bouncing
off of these highs again are getting
rejected by these high yields again and
uh essentially some say starting to
price in Peak yields again many say no
no no peak yields or when these hit five
percent but going back to the argument
of this bullishness remember we're going
to balance this with with some counter
arguments here in just a moment moment
as well they argue in this report that
CPI that is a consumer price index
inflation right has essentially only
been two percent on an annualized rate
over the last three months now really
what they're doing here is they're
taking the the actual number of CPI and
they're kind of taking this little chart
that we've had that looks something like
this where we kind of hit a peak and
we've kind of been bouncing down well
when you take that sort of average fine
you could say we only have a two percent
annualized rate of inflation but look
nobody even believes that as far as you
could throw it right now because we've
seen too much broad-based inflation
spreading to too many different sticky
areas especially rental and housing
inflation and services like health care
which really aren't expected to Peak
until probably sometime early uh to mid
next year but they go on to argue anyway
that you know what we've got an
employment cost index report coming out
here on the 28th that's just in a few
days folks that's in three days and that
is going to be a critical moment for
determining hey are wages
escaping in the pattern of a wage price
spiral or are we actually at Peak
inflation Peak yields Peak quit rates
which means uh you you no longer have
people saying oh I'm going to quit my
job because I can get more pay a
different job instead people are staying
put so you see quit rates come down
which actually reduces inflation right
all these arguments are that oh
inflation will come down and eventually
they suggest that yes sure there's a lag
in shelter inflation but maybe we'll see
that Peak about nine months later they
argue that uh it will quits peaked in
December of 2021 they don't give us an
idea as to when they think shelter may
have peaked I personally think shelter
or and rents peaked somewhere around May
and June for rental prices
but they make this argument that we'll
probably see a like the actual like
recession like where even Joe Biden's
like yup yup we're in a recession now in
the third quarter of 2023 but they
actually think the bottom of the market
could be now and that in the near term
the S P 500 actually has the potential
of hitting a peak before we get into an
official recession even though come on
you and I know we're already in
Obsession right two quarters of negative
GP that's all I need to know okay this
sucks I don't need the nber to tell me
what a recession is I don't need Joe
Biden and White House to redefine
whatever sessions what is it a first
action okay and that's okay but take a
look at this argument they argue that
the S P 500 could actually rally to 4
300 from the about 3 800 where it is now
that'd be about 13 uh boost peaking in
April of 2023 and they think for the
rest of the decade we Act actually think
that we could see earnings per share
double over the next decade however
price to earnings ratios will be cut in
half so we're just not going to see that
sort of Rich overvalued bubbly
stimulative valuation anymore for the
market but because of earnings doubling
we'll actually still see some decent
returns investing in the S P 500 between
now and the end of the decade which is
obviously very very motivating for
potentially buying the dip now they do
say a risk factor here could be rallies
in Commodities if we're in a secular
bull market for Commodities basically uh
higher highs and higher lows for
Commodities over the next 10 years
that's going to hurt us a little bit but
uh if if if if if we do have Commodities
rally value might be what you want to
invest in if Commodities do well value
would be things like energy plays
utility Place Banks real estate Autos
not including growth Autos like Tesla
that's more of a growth and cyclical
stock Proctor and Gamble might be
another style of value but if
Commodities actually come down
we could actually see growth outperform
so it really sort of depended on what we
see happen now one of the things that
they point out is that we still have not
seen the inversion of the 10-year
three-month curve and they think this is
going to happen by January signaling
that we'll actually have a recession in
September that's what they believe but
they also believe that this recession
will be very very similar to World War
II where we spent a lot of inflationary
money on World War II right here this
green chart in the spike which matches
sort of the covid war spending which led
to this delay you could see sort of this
Gap over here this Gap in Peaks over
here between the green line which is
spending in blue line which is inflation
and this being sort of your Peak
reopening inflation and then what
happened after the war boom inflation
just plummeted and that's actually the
trajectory that we're on right now now
I'm going to give a little bit of my own
kind of counter argument to this and
just say that hey look The Five-Year
break-even rate which is something that
I generally watch for a decline in
inflation has been trending down
substantially okay very very clear
evidence that we're expecting inflation
to come down but I'll tell you in the
last week or so uh maybe even three
weeks here it's really been coming back
to life uh you know I was really hoping
for more of a sustained downtrend now we
do tend to have these sorts of moves
back up so that does happen with break
evens but it's something we want to pay
attention to because the FED watches
this and if this continues to spike up
especially if we get to that dreaded 3-0
number again the fed's going to have to
go dirty on us again so uh very very
optimistic here from this company now I
do want to talk about a flip side
argument and and some projection so
we're going to pull up some projections
here from a flip side argument now the
flip side argument comes to you from
Barclays okay this isn't like this isn't
an ad from Barclays or whatever it's
just a flip side argument from this
other Investment Bank that we've been
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what does Barclays think okay well so
here's Barclays Barclay says
the data is not actually suggesting that
we're having any kind of meaningful
decline yet in the labor market or
inflation and it is way too early to
suggest that oh things are absolutely
game on to be bullish in fact they go in
and say here that economic data has been
surprising to the upside initial jobless
claims have fallen recently which is the
opposite of what a slowing economy would
suggest quite frankly earnings have been
coming in pretty damn decently Coca-Cola
beats UPS maintains guidance right we're
actually still seeing strong earnings
come in with exceptionally some
companies that just suck like well okay
I'm not gonna mention them but um you
know I'll just uh snap anyway probably
Facebook too oh gosh I shouldn't have
said it anyway uh job postings on the
private platform indeed have risen
recently indeed how crazy is that we're
expecting to see less job openings yet
we're getting more job openings
according to indeed at the same time
less people are filing for unemployment
which is just a sign that we potentially
could still see a wage price spiral come
which is a dirty rug pull uh that we
will then get from the Federal Reserve
which which precedes a dirty rug pull
that you'll get from the FED they will
never stand for a wage price spiral I've
been talking about that since January I
sat with a Federal Reserve somebody who
used to work for the Federal Reserve and
I told him dude I'm worried he works at
JP Morgan now I'm like dude I'm worried
about wage price spiral back in January
and he's like
and now now we're talking about it again
and it's like uh-huh yeah worst thing
that could happen wage price spiral and
look at this this right here I don't
know that doesn't make me very
enthusiastic here initial claims I'm
gonna cross that one off I think this
fluctuates so much week to week doesn't
so much matter
this job postings thing on indeed that's
interesting I want to start paying
attention to to what indeed is uh is up
to but uh you know they make this
argument here that look investors are
getting over excited about this idea of
a Fed pivot coming and really here are
kind of the following scenarios that you
have for 2022 the uh you know we've got
three scenarios here a bull case which
is a soft Landing shallow recession and
normal recession uh being the bear case
and they believe that in 2022 we
basically still have straight up
downside uh even in like the soft
Landing we're still down 10 and in the
hard Landing we're down 20 with 14.6 in
between they do believe that for 2023 in
the soft Landing scenario we could see a
12 upside but that's balanced off by an
over 16 and a half percent downside to
the S P 500 next year in the event of a
real recession where we do continue to
see earnings actually collapse one of
the big problems we face now is we keep
expecting that earnings are going to
collapse but they're just not yet and so
we kind of keep kicking the can down the
road it's like oh well eventually
earnings will collapse right and then
it's like uh okay well it wasn't q1 it
wasn't Q2 and now it's kind of like is
it going to be Q3 maybe not so we kind
of just keep kicking the can down the
road it's like okay well why don't we
actually gonna get the recession in it
that's where you do have a you know some
folks on one side of the arguments and
well by the time companies are actually
ready to be in a recession and consumers
are like okay yeah I'm officially out of
money maybe inflation will have started
coming down now that could just be the
rosy hopium scenario where it's like oh
yeah as soon as people run out of money
all of a sudden we just won't happen to
have any inflation anymore and that'll
happen right after the election too okay
whatever anyway there's a whole lot of
cynicism that we can have towards the
market the reality is look inflation's
either going to go down or it's not if
inflation goes down you get all in on
this Market you go long growth uh not
Financial advice I am a financial ad
advisor but I can't give you Financial
advice because I can't provide a generic
or impersonal Financial advice on on a
YouTube video uh and so we're not doing
that here but we just want to be very
clear like obviously if we start
meaningfully seeing inflation come down
you kind of want to move along quickly
in the meantime
you haven't been getting punished
sitting in cash and waiting on the
sidelines as painful as that is to say
and uh there are a lot of fomo folks who
are saying no no no you got to be in but
you gotta be careful because fomo
can hurt when it turns into well sadness
yeah forget fear it just turns into
sadness and regret
Romo Romo regret of having gotten in
rahome whatever anyway I don't know
folks what do you think whom do you
agree with do you agree with the first
argument that hey we've got some
bullishness coming up and we're
basically at Peak yields as long as the
FED doesn't have to get more aggressive
to fight a wage price spiral we should
be on the up because history says
October to April is game time this is
where selling may go away comes from
after all right or do you think Barclays
is more correct that hey like whoa whoa
whoa whoa not so fast still not actually
seeing the data the fed's looking for
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