Confronting Patrick Bet David | Valuetainment

you have no idea how closely I followed

you and I'm sitting I'm like this guy is

going to disrupt politics how many 25 30

yearolds are going to say I'm going to

run for governor because of Kevin I

fully believe that God put this in my

heart for a reason he says the hardest

mountain to climb is Media good luck

getting in you're going to be criticized

demonized said okay then that's what I'm

going to

do biggest problem we have in America is

hero making machine we have a problem

with hero making machine this is

probably the worst podcast I've ever

done oh no like I can't wait to read the

comments

because what advice would you give

me I you know I I uh let me explain in

what way she says there's no way can

resist me comes to the house in a

birthday suit and she's like you going

to say no to this but I chose to say I'm

changing everything in my life

changed welcome back to another episode

of the meet Kevin show today we have the

honor and pra privilege of interviewing

in person Patrick B davit thank you so

much for inviting me over here and the

last time I was here I was running for

governor and I was on your show yes are

you announcing that you're running for

president now no I'm not born here I I

can't I can't uh run for office do you

wish they would change that um do I wish

they would change that uh to me I

understand having a pride to protect

uh the sanctity of something for example

you've been to cross stations before in

Beverly Hills this restaurant in Beverly

Hills crustations you know they have two

chick two kitchens one kitchen that

anybody can go to and the other one

kitchen is only the on family that can

go to because they don't want to you

know release certain recipes that

they're you know passed down from

generation to generation I fully respect

protecting that I get it having said

that I think there are people that love

America and would fight for this place

way more than people that were born here

because they give a different

perspective yeah but the way I would do

it is the guidelines would be you've had

to been living here for 35 years and

have certain criterias you have to do a

little bit more than the average guy

that's here military public service cop

firefighter something you've done that

you've given to the country uh because

the person that's born here they're born

here you're coming from the outset prove

to us that you're loyal to America in

that case you would be able to run

you've thought about this before I have

yeah yeah and and that way you might

even unlock somebody like uh an Elon

Musk running or of course yourself or I

was born in Germany I moved here when

it's 13 months old I feel like an

American you can't run I

can't I I didn't know you were born in

we're in Germany by the way uh just

outside of dorf a small town called

felbert yeah wow I lived in airlan for a

year and a half wow gery so you know

ambition yeah ambition

yeah I I had a great time when I was

there the the best singer in the world

was

uh this was a song yeah obviously my

accent is terrible but you know he does

it much better that's incredible how

many languages do you speak I speak four

and in German if let's just say you and

I went on a we went to Germany for a

week it would come back up but I would

say four or German would be the fifth

yeah Armenian my mother Assyrian my dad

Persian Iran English here wow yeah one

of the things that I've noticed coming

here by the way and the difference over

the last two and a half years just

looking in from the outside is that

you've gone all in on media and and the

News front with and Via YouTube It's

almost like you stole cardone's 10x and

you're like I'm just going to 100x and

you've been executing it and it's been

wonderful I want to to see your

explosion with it is that the next

Frontier um news through YouTube the way

you're doing it maybe even to some

extent The Way Tucker is doing it now

after he left Fox well was as to Fox or

however we want to phrase that I I think

uh uh there's a lot of guys that have

done a great job with content obviously

Cardone you got to applaud him on how he

used uh YouTube and creating content to

build the uh massive real estate

portfolio that he's built I don't know

how big it is today I don't follow a lot

of the content he blocked me a few years

ago after I interviewed a Scientologist

and that was the last time I spoke but

congratulations so I'm also blocked by

Cardone and I remember meeting you and

Cardone at some event in Los Angeles oh

that's right and I remember you were

following them with the camera this was

at Albert PR's event this is 6 years ago

5 years ago why do you remember because

I remember you you no I clearly remember

that you were chasing him down and he

was trying to avoid you if I'm not

mistaken that's right how old are you by

the way I'm 31 I'm I had my birthday is

in two days I turned 32 well happy early

birthday thank you but how old were you

at that yeah that would have been minus

I was like 25 26 so that was six years

ago I yeah you're right I knew you were

going to do something because you you

you what was one of the videos real

estate videos you were running you were

running and you're like showing let me

tell what's going to happen with this

video and you were so like constantly

energized and uh I actually really

wanted to see how far you were going to

go as a governor because I wanted to see

you as a case study because it would

have been so disruptive if you would

have made it all the way I think it

would have change a game for a lot of

different things but going back to the

conversation about Cardone yeah so I

um in in 2009 my pastor gets up and

gives a speech and he says you know know

uh uh in 2008 I'm trying to figure out

what the hell I want to do my life I

finally found the girl I'm going to

marry my wife today we got four kids

together I found the industry I'm going

to be a part of for 20 years Financial I

love it uh and I said okay so but why am

I making money it's got to be bigger

than money so I was I went and met with

a handful of people I respect you know

man named Dudley Bill and a few other

guys and I said what should I do I said

I want to find my purpose because

there's no way in the world I've lived a

strange life of Living in Iran bomb

refugee camp military parents divorced

twice all this stuff and why are you

doing this to me God what what's

happening with this so and they came in

I said am I supposed to go Pastor

because I I privately curse a lot so my

pastor's like that's not your world you

don't need to go that right I said great

what do I need to do then eventually I

go meet this

um one man George Will at myar hotel and

yeah I'm going through this face what

the hell am I going to do I'm like okay

now capitalism is my cause I'm about

capitalism I'm about America I'm about

free enterprise I can sell that all day

my mother was a communist her family was

a communist my dad's an imperialist we

escaped Iran I kind of know the Two

Worlds what KL Marx was all about what

you know Wealth of Nations militon

Freedom what these guys are all about

Von mises okay great but then Dudley

gives a speech and he says seven

mountains to climb in the world Family

Church military business he's going

through all this stuff and then he says

the hardest mountain to climb is media

and this isn't an 0809 when he gives a

speech seven

mountains and I sit there and say why is

Media hardest very competitive it's

controlled by a handful of people good

luck getting in you're going to be you

know criticized demonized all this stuff

that's why a lot of people can't make it

said okay then that's what I'm going to

do and I knew insurance industry I was

going to do 20 years so this is 0809 I

started 01 I knew I was going to go till

2021 and then I was going to leave the

industry at a timeline of 20 years and I

want to have a certain amount of money

quar of million quar of a billion was my

number to have after 20 years then I

want to leave the industry so 20 250 is

my

number so then I sold nine months after

my 20th year in the business is when I

sold the company wow nine or 10 months

so and that was your insurance business

it was Insurance business that we grew

from 66 agents to at the time when we

sold it was I don't know like 40,000

agents today it's at 50,000 agents we

sold the company after we sold the

company last year the eido went up

nearly 70% after we sold so it's not

like we sold now it's worth less we sold

now it's worth more so the buyer is

happy relationship just more

growth we made uh uh uh certain changes

in the way we recognize quality of

business we no longer accepted bad

business we no longer recognize any bad

business you know it went from like

imagine submitting real estate we used

to recognize for you submitting six

homes and each is 1.2 million so 7.2

million versus where we're like no we

don't care how many applications you

submitted we're only recognizing how

many homes you sell and close right so

maybe that six is only two 2.8 million

we stopped doing the six 7.2 million

life changing to the business income

went to all because this was commission

based and sort of team building 1099

thank you so much referral based that's

right 1099 referral based high volume

recruiting you know and like aptive Pest

Control almost you might compare it to I

don't know what that is

but it's funny AP control they door

knock to sell Pest Control mostly uh on

the west coast even go down to Texas uh

and it's it's built on commission

structure same thing high volume recr

over yeah same philosophy the only

difference is highly regulated industry

got you have to get license you're

dealing with Department of Insurance uh

I'm dealing with 49 states were

appointed in anyways long story short

that ends I start value tment in 2012

December of 2012 knowing longterm I

would like to see if I have what it

takes to build a media company wow and

then eventually you know we bought the

domain value tment and then we bought

the domain vt.com and then now we're all

in but the vision for us isn't uh uh you

know just to make money and all that

it's a lot of other things that we want

to do longterm but yes VT how much uh oh

it's public U

$75,000 actually not bad for two letters

I agree it's a $2.2 million domain

exactly right I was I was going to say

at least least three mil so good job

because I was looking into MK and then

for a while pee for pricing power you

know anyway the guy was a the guy was a

a fan and I had I had take had used his

service we had spend time together so he

gave me a break but he was fair and he's

like like I know I know nobody it's just

going to be vment VT Virginia Tech you

know there only a few people going to

use VT but and then I working out for us

good for you well something you just

said that I thought was so interesting

and very relatable uh I I feel that

regularly is you said you were looking

for something bigger than money

something with purpose do you think you

could see yourself actually retiring and

doing nothing or do you think humans

need to do something and achieve in

something you know it's so funny we

saying this this what we talked about

today and it's the big argument me and

Bill Mah got two days ago this is

probably the worst podcast I've ever

done me and Bill Mah oh no because let

me explain in what way when you watch it

like I can't wait to read the comments

because there was no momentum in the

conversation kept getting stuck in

animosity kept getting stuck in

animosity and hostile it

was it it wasn't good but and I'll tell

you why what the disconnect is between

the conversation so do I think uh you

know everybody has to be in pursuit of

something for their purpose I know

people who are retired Kevin and they

are so happy and I'm not saying retired

like you know the first six months you

retired everybody wants to say how happy

they are and they're full of sure

I'm saying retired seven years oh wow

and they're happy so for example retired

golfing 6 days a week going to the

country club breakfast you know all this

stuff and they're enjoying it and wife

and you know wife plays tennis sincerely

happy I respect that I can't do that I'm

not wired that way and to me I look at

it in a couple different ways I'm

working my tail off because for me we're

having a conversation right now on the

podcast

would you be okay with the president of

the United States being single never

married no kids oh wow I feel like

there'd be a whole aspect of

relatability almost missing what well

okay what else you think would be

missing well I mean I'll say from my

point of view I've been with my wife uh

since I was 16 years old I don't think

I'd be the same person if it weren't for

her she is so incredibly useful in my

life and in in in so many ways I never

like I don't think you can look on like

a dating app and be like oh yeah they're

going to help me in every aspect of my

life but how useful Lauren has been in

my life and even having children it's

given me a completely different

perspective uh and appreciation so I I

think people should have that

interesting right I mean it's an

interesting question to say because

somebody may say well what's wrong with

having a single president let's let's do

the Devil's Advocate thing and let's

play that card why can't we have a

single president he probably has more

time to solve problems than you do he's

probably going to be more you

know decisions to make where it's not

going to be tied to kids or motives or

manipulation or maybe trying to use the

law to favor his kids like hey what's

going on with Hunter what's going on

with Dr what's so maybe we can make that

argument right there's like kind of like

why the CIA sometimes their rumor has

that they would recruit people that are

fatherless no Mom nothing to live for

because it's kind of like that's the

profile right I mean fairness that kind

of business I feel like that's the

person who kind of needs to be an

operative is somebody who's totally

alone perfect so watch what we just did

we just we just qualified what POS

position a person like that would be

good for someone like that okay so now

let's go over there and let's talk about

you know the whole conversation about

purpose to

me I don't know if you can't get married

man I feel bad for you if you can but

there's a reason why God created you

that you not married you can't have kids

there's a reason why God created you the

way he did that you can't have kids

that's Health you can't do nothing but

it's out of your hands you choose to

adopt animals whatever more power to you

but if you have the ability to have kids

and have a family I don't know if I can

live you know without getting married or

never meeting my four kids are you

kidding me like take me right now I

don't have a reason to exist if I don't

have this right so everything is finding

a way to live for others and at a

certain phase of your life you're going

to be more selfish than others and

that's okay and I finally in in the book

choose your enemies wisely I wanted to

come out with a scorecard because I

looked at the guys in our company in the

insurance company the last 20 years that

did very well and I gave gave everyone a

scorecard on who was the most selfish

and who was the most selfless and who

made more money and the score that was

the best person that grew their business

was 7030 70% selfish 30% selfless the

most selfless people were not

competitive we not driven we're not

hostile we not wanting to prove a point

they didn't give a if they became

millionaires or drove a ice car or won

or were first place or won a trip to go

to a company trip nothing but the 7030

there were selfless enough to not to

some stupid that's the 7030 split so on

the purpose side yeah I I I mean you

know it depends on how many versions of

you you want to meet I want to meet the

next version of me like you know I I

want to know uh I don't think this

version if I stay like this is capable

of doing what I want to do in the next 5

to 10 years I want to meet that guy I

want to meet the other guy kind of like

what what's that actor said in one of

his speeches you know I want to meet the

35y old version of me I want to be you

know 45 year old version I think it was

Matthew MCC who gave that fantastic

speech right so I I I can't see myself

doing it any other way but I'm at of

phase when I talked to Bill

Maher got engaged at 29 and he says he

was forced to do it was kind of like I

guess I love you I guess we get engaged

oh wow never got married never had kids

he doesn't like kids he thinks there's

too many people living on the planet he

thinks we need fewer people living on

the planet and he likes his life that

way I'm shock does believe in God yeah

there are I'm more and more finding

people who have that belief that that we

shouldn't have more children I'm a big

fan of having children I want have a lot

of children an army of children uh and

and I almost sometimes feel resentment

from others even some of my family back

in Germany like how could you bring more

children into this world and I think to

myself what do you mean this is I feel

like that's my purpose is bringing and

educating as to the best of my ability

wonderful hopefully people into the

world so why is this becoming more

common I mean look whatever so last

night we're having dinner with Dana

White and I'm telling them this

conversation we had a three-hour dinner

with him phenomenal conversation my kind

of a guy just a badass mother you know

just a he doesn't give a here's

what he does takes care of his people

people like to work for him all these

things

right but then you know why are people

going in this direction to me the

biggest problem we have in America and

we would fix it within three years

biggest problem we have in America is

hero making machine we have a problem

with hero making machine whoever we

edify as Heroes others will want to be

for example if you became the governor

of California if I am a governor of Cal

of a state right I would on a monthly

basis recognize the best every month I

would do a press conference and I would

say okay all right let's recognize the

heroes of December here's what we got we

got seven categories to go through uh

let's start off under 18 I have five

great stories to tell uh here's John Doe

John Doe is 12 years old here's a video

of what he did to to save his sister I

am so proud of him the fact that he's a

Floridian doing da d d great job so

proud of you buddy hopefully one of

these days I'm going to meet you I I

want to see more 12-year-old kids want

to defend their do sisters the way he

did after that dog tried to bite them

you know what and because of that we're

going to put your face in the home

office of okay there you go recognize

the next high school student here you

know what the sixe old kid did his mom

was sick was in a hospital for 6 months

he kept a 4.4 GPA had two jobs work

additional making $5,000 a month took

care of the bills took care of his

younger sister this guy's a leader he's

a hero boom so next now recognize people

that are small business owners who

started a business in 12 months in covid

not took money from the government not a

single penny from us he did it all by

himself him and his wife after 20 years

of being in you know restaurant business

they build a business they produced nine

jobs last week last year and that next

here's somebody that's a senior citizen

78 years old just ran a marathon are you

kidding I'm 45 never ran a marath boom

and then I was oh my God next month

who's going to be the hero boom and he's

like I want to be like Johnny I want to

be like Mary I want to run a marathon

boom now 79 people run a marathon now

298 people want to be like that 12-y old

johnan taking care of his kids and then

hero making machine vers is today the

hero is look at this father my

three-year-old son told me he's a girl

and we went in what the what are we

talking about that's not a hero that is

a terrible father who is listening to a

three-year-old kid and we are afraid

because we're worried about getting

cancelled that we can't say three p

three-year-old person knows how to make

a decision are you out of your flipping

mind so then that person's a hero on CNN

or MSNBC or ABC or fox or whatever it is

then the family's like oh I want to be a

hero oh my son said to and and we're

confused brother for me in every sales

organization any company you're a part

of any family you're a part of your

parents sold somebody to you as a hero

it could have been John F Kennedy it

could have been a businessman it could

have been an athlete it could have been

a football player it could have been a

soccer player it could have been the

great uncle the great grandpa that had a

business that did something and you

always admired this man growing up I

want to be this guy one day America's

done a shitty job the last eight years

12 years selling the right Heroes were

embarrassed to sell good cops that put

their lives on the line were embarrassed

to sell good military veterans that are

doing the we're embarrassed to recognize

good people that are going out there

creating jobs and not wanting to take

anything from the government we're

embarrassed of recognizing those people

and we want to recognize people that

didn't pay their college loan off that

didn't want we we are recognizing lack

of responsibility because we feel sorry

for them I have a very big problem with

that Kevin I have a very big problem

with that and I'm willing to bet a lot

of other people also have a very big

problem of this but they're so confused

and Afraid and and don't have the

backbone because they won't get the

raise the company will fire them what if

something maybe they don't have your

kind of money you've been making good

money for a long time you've been making

millions for many many years this isn't

like you just started making money and

you're only 31 years old but maybe a

guy's making 45 Grand a year he doesn't

have your kind of backbone to make a

decision like that so they're afraid and

I understand them so if he can't do it I

can't do it who the hell am I to be

afraid and have his level of fear I

speak on his behalf I speak on her

behalf it is a coward move for me to be

afraid to talk about this stuff when I

have the resources again this is how I

view it I don't judge the other people

to not want to do this I view it that

way because I think America has a

massive hero making machine problem have

you ever met a hero of yours and you

know ended up disappointed or finding

out that's not who you thought they were

yeah uh it's interesting you say that

because you know when when I was an

atheist for 25 years I used to go to

Bible study Friday nights in the

Pasadena pnas with this guy named mono

and my friend Aron introduced me to this

and we would do debates from 6:00 to

2:00 in the morning on Friday night and

I love good debates and arguments and

you know all that stuff and I'm an

atheist so was a great conversation

because he was a Christian I was let me

tell you all this religion people you

know how many pastors haveon get up and

I I was sleeping with his wife and I'm

stepping down what a piece of

Pastor that guy is how about how many

priests do you see with boys and how how

about how many men drugs at Hab and says

look if you judge your relationship ship

with God horizontally you will always be

disappointed if it's vertical you'll

never be disappointed so I try to not

put you in a category of walking on

water because I'm guaranteed to be

disappointed and I look at everybody I'm

like look man everybody's got flaws

everybody's got issues I don't expect

you to walk on water because I

definitely don't I have a past I have

issues I have dumb mistakes I made so

many dumb mistakes that I look at him

I'm like what were you thinking I'm like

okay we got to move on and we got to

become better leaders so I don't look at

it from that perspective because to me

it's more like uh if if I look at you as

a hero it's because you've had a catalog

of work you've done that I admire and

just meeting you it's like hey man

salute for what you've done maybe your

marriage didn't work out maybe you one

of your kids you know screwed up in life

maybe you did something stupid in your

life but I applaud you for being who you

are and the level of Victories you've

had in your life my standard isn't for

you to walk on water at least try not to

do that it's a very hard thing to do but

I try not to do that do you admire

Andrew Tate do uh I think Andrew Tate is

necessary I think Andrew Tate is a

fighter the other day this a very weird

thing happened the other day I'm at a

game uh in Florida I'm not going to say

the city but I'm watching my son play

10-year-old son play

soccer and a father's to my left and he

comes up to me it's say and I'm I'm

knowing I'm I'm talking to a guy because

we want to do movie together and this

guy worked on the uh uh something Stone

Yellow Stone so we're having this

conversation together it's like hey what

about if we do this project how much

money would it cost and this man is

gradually coming closer to me and closer

to

me and he says so C can I can I tell you

something yes yes sir so um I I think I

think you you were unfair to uh uh uh

Destiny and I think Destiny is is is uh

he would have really called that rate

the man that you defend who did human

trafficking and he did this God my I'm

really not in the mood I'm watching my

son play I'm trying to get this movie

conversation here and you're coming to

my face like this I said so let me ask

you a question do you have a son I do

you have a son I do would you rather

have your son follow the footsteps of a

Destiny or follow the footsteps of an

Andrew Tate oh 100% Destiny really yes

so you're okay with your son being okay

with his wife while they're married

sleeping around with another man you're

okay with that I'm okay with that well

I'm not bro I said the conversation ends

right here yeah what else do you want to

have a conversation with you know what

I'm noticing is you are so exceptionally

unafraid of standing up for your values

that you don't care you don't give a

about what anybody else thinks and

I respect that so good for you but you

said you still read the comments why oh

I'm going to read all the comments on on

the what do you call it Bill Mah I can't

wait to read the comments I read I I try

to read as many comments as I can

because here's how I read comments so to

me it it does nothing for me anymore

like hurting and all that at first

listen first oh are you kidding me

you're like o oh man that one hurts oh

you oh and you're like oh my and then

you would stress out about it like over

and over and over again you know about

certain comment that somebody made and

eventually I categorize comments in

three different levels okay so one is

the trolls I love trolls they're funny

you know they would say certain things

I'm like dude that's funny as hell the

way I pronounce certain words or the way

I talk or the way I look or you know I

have a weird look I have big nose big

ears whatever my look is not like a

regular look okay I I laugh at that and

I'm having fun with you on that you know

then there's the guys that uh no matter

what I do I can't do anything wrong okay

super fans I don't read a lot of those

but I you have no idea how much I value

them and I appreciate them I love you

thank you fantastic without you no one

knows what value tment is or pbd podcast

is salute right and and and I appreciate

it compliments all of that fantastic

then there's the other guys that are uh

hate they come from a place of hate and

you can tell politically no matter what

you say they're on the other side and

then there's the best ones that actually

give feedback when you get to the

feedback and they say I've been

listening to you for three and a half

years I love what you talk about but I

noticed today you were unfair and you

allowed Adam to say something about

Sarah hakabe Sanders that I just don't

think that's appropriate for you to do

and I was disappointed that you didn't

correct them and guess what that person

was right so on the next podcast I said

hey let want to say this guys I'm not in

the business of talking about how ugly

somebody is or how someone looks we're

not going to be doing that Adam moving

forward I don't want you to say stuff

like that uh we're going to get better

and all of us going to okay great move

on okay but then there's some people

that every time you do something they

want to say stuff that you walk on xos I

don't do well with people that uh are

part of walking on xl's community I

don't even hear you I filter you out I'm

not a walking on xl's guy so if you want

me to be perfect I will listen to you

this much if your standard is perfection

you can persuade me this much if your

standard is um coming from a reasonable

place to want to give feedback and

consider doing this I'm all yours what

do you think we need to do it very

interesting because when I came on your

podcast now two and a half years ago you

were you had the live comments up to

sort of read the room and understand

where maybe feedback that feedback is

while you're live uh does that sort of

help you engage with your audience uh is

it trying to stay aligned with them

rather than potentially risking

upsetting them maybe no it's good you

said that though so for I listen to it

for a few different reasons when I'm

doing a live I listen like

today oh no oh my God like today the

first five minutes are audio guy one of

our guys added a new equipment without

approving it with anybody so for the

first five minutes we have Echo and I'm

just kind of like

WTF why do you not double check in QC

with somebody else since when are we not

a QC shop so and it's not breaking news

yeah it's e so couple time we have 3,200

people waiting for in a room before we

go live and 3,200 upset people are

saying echo echo echo have to step out I

give the question to Adam Vini and Tom I

step out I go outside the now it's in

the vault I don't I don't think you've

been to the Vault so I go out to the

Vault I go to them like what are we

doing guys what was this all about so I

listen to the comments sometimes for

that but then I listen to the comments

for people to disagree with me so maybe

I need to go a little layer deeper on a

question and point that I need to make

and then I also like when they say stuff

that's funny makes me laugh so

highlighting funny

also mes but uh that's interesting so

looking for that extra perspective in

that case do you prefer to be live so

that you have that almost instantaneous

feedback of oh I don't understand can

you go deeper well live is scarier Right

Live is scarier than pre-recorded

because with live uh pre-recorded you

can edit out the echo sound or you can

edit out the light or you can edit out

something fell guys can we cut that here

let me say it again so when you were

thinking about you know you can always

do that pre can I ask the question one

more time I want to ask the question one

more time great hey can I start the

answer again sure can't do that on a

live live is pressure live is actual

wartime live and you're a live guy and

you were fire on live right when you

were doing your numbers and all this

stuff like I'm talking Co cuz that's

when you came from 20,000 Subs to a

million Subs boom blowing up right and

it was the live component but live isn't

for everybody MH you know and and here's

what I'm I don't mean it in an arrogant

way the number one guy who's a YouTuber

doesn't do any live all pre-recorded

interesting and he beats everybody do

you think live is an advantage for you

it is cuz I like live okay I like live

live is not for everybody live is not

for everybody because live is reaction

live is pressure live is tension live

is you know high level of criticism high

level of risk that's life now another

question on this yeah on some of your

interviews it sometimes seems like your

most uh or or the presenters uh maybe

most extreme questions or commentary

will come from other folks from your

office and then you can react is that by

design that what is that the question so

so for example if you're interviewing

somebody you have two more people with

you uh sometimes maybe the more

aggressive questions or commentary will

come from other people not from you is

that by Design at all I I you know it's

interesting you say that zero okay that

that's by Design because like you know

if you think about the podcast I asked

uh uh Anne couter one time she was so

furious with me I said listen an you

ever been married before I didn't know

that she says no I said you know I'm

getting a vibe that I don't think any

man can please you and she says well

that's a sexist question I don't think

about it that way I know a lot of people

that are hard to please I just didn't

think she's easy to please when I had

the Anthony Weiner on I don't know if

you ever saw the Anthony Weiner one if

you haven't seen that one that is like

fireworks cou 100 million views short

clips on Tik Tok Instagram Twitter

picked up story reaction everybody it's

literally him and I fighting for 45

minutes straight straight and he's a

lawyer I'm not a lawyer that guy's a

professional debater so I

enjoy um confrontation I love it that's

good and it's not to say that you're not

aggressive and you don't ask pointy

questions I definitely think you do I

was just wondering if there was almost a

strategy to like hey if we have maybe a

more extreme idea that maybe you

wouldn't necessarily no so let me tell

you what I do miss I miss one1 cuz I

love one1 oh really I love one1

interviews I mean are you kidding me

like I I I've done you know we got vment

to 5 million subscribers with me just

doing one-onone interviews well and the

board when you used to the explanations

so I love that stuff the thing with the

board is it took a long time it would

take me two hours to write the stuff up

cuz I was doing it with a marker so I'm

like I don't have the bandwidth to do it

anymore and I'd have to come on Saturday

at 7:00 a.m. to shoot it and write it

and then we'd record it no but I love

the oneone interview so even right now

when I'm uh uh you know on the flight

back I'm like we're going to be doing

Tuesdays and Thursdays home team but I'm

going to be doing a lot of one-on-one

interviews this year because I love the

one-on-one aspect of it wow that's

amazing uh how do you balance the

politics or do you not are you just

going to be very transparent about your

views and people either like it or they

don't yeah I'm not I'm at this point I'm

very comfortable with my politics uh and

probably more than ever before there was

a time I wasn't and I was worried about

it and I was kind of like because you

know I Mario had one job and Mario was

right there and I would say Mario

anytime I get too political and any one

of my videos stop me wow so Mario would

be like hey hey Pat that's politics

that's not politics no no Pat that's

politic tell me how that's politics Pat

I'm I'm I'm just telling you here come

watch it it's politics you're going to

politics you told me God I can't believe

you stopped me but you're right it is

politics okay all right let's see what

we can do let's you had a censor in the

room yeah I did I really did though

Mario would tell you cuz Mario was

always back there telling me when I

would go to politics eventually I'm like

no I can't help myself you know if if if

you know this is how I used to buy cars

I used to buy cars by going and looking

at a car and then I'd walk away I'm like

okay then I go look back again two weeks

later I still want it then I go back a

month later dude I really want it then I

go back three months later yeah I'm over

it then I'm not buying it wow so I had

like a 12 month rule before I bought

something okay to see if I still liked

it and loved it 6 to 12 months later if

I didn't I didn't here's what I did with

politics I'm like I think it's a phase I

said I'm not going to talk politics for

two three years if I'm still interested

I'll I'll create content on politics 6

months 12 months 24 months 3 years four

years 5 years 7 years

I can't help myself I I am interested

because I don't like manipulators and

gamesmanship and I think I have a

different kind of a voice that I give a

perspective that the audience likes and

it works and by the way when I started

going into Political site do you know

how many competitors and YouTube site

privately this would always come back to

me they would say Pat's about to fall

he's making the biggest cardinal rule

mistake you don't ever go from business

to politics you're a number one channel

on YouTube for entrepreneurship now

you're going to go into talk about

politics Pat's about to get killed watch

what happens to

we blew up yeah complete opposite I

think your aggressiveness and and uh

Candor in politics has absolutely

contributed to what you all have done

yeah it was a risk though you have to

say it was a very big risk so it's kind

of like again we're all case studies

that's why you were so important you

have no idea how closely I followed you

no no I'm not when I say followed like

past tense that I don't do today because

you're not doing as much as you were

doing before you were doing a lot right

in in two years ago two and a half years

ago and I'm sitting I'm like this guy is

going to disrupt politics how many 25

30y olds are going to say I'm going to

run for governor because of Kevin it was

a very interesting because remember we

still don't know how this tool is going

to be used all we know is what we see

today huh we still don't know how people

going to use this tool so you you took

it in a way where I was a f look at

Javier mle yeah right look how many of

the stuff he did with YouTube with his

content so we seen more and more of that

but uh I would have been very curious to

see how high you would have gone I was

hoping I'm like I want to see this guy

on the Bas stage with Nome because it's

disruption and I'm interested I love

that the uh Javier Malay reference is

that potentially I mean taking the

chainsaw of the budget it it's hilarious

it's great it's viral content is there a

risk of being too

extreme well yeah I mean socialism is

Extreme too extreme communism is too

extreme you know controlling uh uh uh

the people force is too extreme using

the the you know our justice system to

control and eliminate opponents is too

extreme but all that stuff is going on

so would I rather have that extreme of

controlling me or would I have the

extreme of a Libertarian I choose the

extreme of libertarian over the other

side totally fair counter absolutely

agree what advice would you give

me I you know I I uh Graham Stefan and

you right I look at you guys in a very

interesting way because you're way ahead

of me you're way ahead of me me I'm 45

you're 31 bro you have to realize like

you're way ahead of me I'm not I'm not

where you are and where Graham Stefan is

I'm 45 so I found my voice and I'm

confident lighting it up but at 31 I had

even started a YouTube channel yet what

are you talking about 31 nobody knew who

I was the only people who knew who I was

was insurance people I was famous in the

insurance industry that means nothing

right so at 31 years old where you're at

and I watch gr I think both of you guys

have a very different kind of a voice uh

but you guys have one thing in common

and that's the ability to reason which

means if somebody can give you a good

argument you'll eventually fight it in

all different ways and the way you'll

fight it is with research and then

you're eventually going like that

gu that guy's kind of

right or you know what no he's not fully

right I agree with them 70% but I

disagree with them 30% and that's going

to be my position cool that's great

that's that's exciting part no my advice

for you would be if you can if you can

the edge I had Kevin is I got my vision

at an early age and I was maniacally

obsessed about this vision and there was

rage fire passion excitement enthusiasm

conviction in my belly for whatever

reason I can describe it the only way I

can describe it I fully believed that

God put this in my heart for a reason so

I trust being as as aggressive as I am

cuz I think he wants me to do it now I

could be wrong somebody could say this

guy's delusional you think you have a

calling and God's chosen you to do this

not saying that I think he's got a lot

of soldiers I think I'm just wanting to

be one of his best flag carriers of this

generation he's given me an incredible

life he's had a lot of Grace on me he

every day I go home I can't believe I'm

living this life I'm like is this a

movie no it's your real life okay cool

people are interested in what I have to

say who the hell am I for you to be

interested in what I have to say this

life has produced me to get to a point

that other people are coming to ask me

what I think about XYZ thank you what

happened how did this happen obviously a

lot of good people in your life maybe

some people in your life that was put

there to see what kind of a fight you

got that turned me into who I am today

but no from my perspective to you is

dude if you can sit there choose your

enemies wisely you get clear on your

vision that's driven by purpose where

there's fire in your

belly um you'll know when that happens

and it's a it's like a switch everything

goes back to it the drive the urgency

the clarity the Poise the peace of mind

like you know you're living in the

future truth the concept of a Future

Truth a Visionary is always living in a

future truth you know it's always a

present lie to everybody but it's a

future truth to you a Visionary is a

artist for the first day but

after year maybe he's making progress

maybe three five years later oh he is

really a Visionary so I'm a Future Truth

guy uh I believe in that I've seen the

movie already I've seen what's going to

happen I know what's going to happen but

I have to go validate that that is

really the Future Truth and that Parts

on me very strong conviction you

mentioned you're an atheist but you're

also very spiritual is this just the

acceptance of not choosing a religion

but expecting or believing there's a

higher power I was an atheist till 25 at

25 I became a Christian but I was an

atheist till 25 and at 25 years old I

had a moment where I'm like yeah no um

there's no way in the world I'm going to

live this life with you know just doing

it myself yeah so you know atheist for

the first 25 years of my life and then I

became a Christian and there were

certain events that happened in my life

and um unique moments and that's when I

said no I'm see and this is my

perspective okay who knows for a fact if

there's a God or if there's not a God

for a fact who knows nobody knows how

many books do I need to read for me to

know 100% if there is or there isn't you

can read every single book in the world

you're still not going to be 100% is

that fair to say absolutely we can read

every single book in the world we're not

going to know and I'm talking every book

in the world you're still not going to

know we can put neurolink in your brain

we can put the best supplements in you

it doesn't matter you're never going to

know 100% so faith is really a risk now

is it good to be an educated risk sure

how do you create an educated Risk by

reading some book and using some guys

that are former mathematicians and

seeing the argument they made and going

and reading maybe some CS Lewis maybe

some Lee stroble maybe some this it's

like okay this the direction I'm going

to go but the other part of it is the

following if your vision is Big the

bigger the vision the more help you need

the bigger div Vision the smarter people

you need around you the bigger division

the more loyal people you need around

you that actually believe in your cause

like he joined your Camp when you were

running for a governor you need True

Believers around you because they're not

here because they're going to be rich

with you they're here because they fully

believe in you and hopefully they'll

make a lot of money as well and good

things will happen to them as well but

the the vision part if it's massive

you're going to need a higher power to

be with you because there's going to be

moments where you can't do it by

yourself and nobody around you that can

help you you're going to need some kind

of a supernatural Miracle support and

there isn't any employee you can hire

for all the money in the world to make

those things happen you need somebody to

have your back again My Views when did

you have your first child uh I was uh so

2012 okay was born in February I'm 78 so

33

okay so it wasn't children that had an

impact on you choosing religious no okay

no to me no not at all and one of the

things that uh I've heard you talk about

is you require your children to read

books to earn can you tell me about that

a little bit maybe even just parenting

advice I just had twin baby girls and

we've got more coming on the way um yeah

congratulations so awesome right Life

Changes like instantly when I it it's

the most beautiful thing in the world I

love it I listen if I had a my way I

have 20 kids I love

kids and I love all of it like there's

part of kids that's annoying right you

know you're sleeping you're hoping

Sunday morning you're going to get at

least 78 hours of sleep and Sunday

morning at 5:00 they come in they're

breathing right in front of your face

Dad I can't find my iPad I'm like oh my

God buddy just leave it alone right and

so there's there you know they're sick

and you're like okay so we go on a

Christmas trip and you're an aspen and

one kid is sick then okay he's getting

sick tomorrow she's getting sick the

next day then she's getting sick then

it's me then it's the wife then it's

Grand

let's go with the cycle 6 weeks of

people being sick right there's a lot of

annoying things about having kids a lot

of them but as long as that list is the

list of having the kids the benefits of

it is Thousands it's it's unlimited

those so many benefits that brings to

you no so

look raising kids what do kids need my

dad would always say love inst structure

love inst structure love inst structure

when I was a kid my dad once told me he

says look I'm being hard on you and I'm

being tough on you and I'm having high

standards with you because one day I'm

hoping that you and I can be friends for

the rest of our lives today I'm Your

Leader I'm your father but I want you to

be my friend one day and it's going to

take a lot of work for that to happen

man we are best friends I love my dad my

dad and I were roommates when I was

building my insurance company for many

years literally is he local here oh he

lives with me in my house he's a yeah my

house is 02 miles away from right here

this is a I love hearing what you just

said yeah yeah so to me and and and he

is like you you know this the only place

I moved into when I lived in Texas I

would fly him out once a month but when

I moved to Florida I said I'm not flying

you out you have to move here and live

with us so now he lives with us it's

awesome he's great he's happy he's

enjoying himself reading books you know

hey Dad can I get this how many have you

read I haven't read any books Let's

negotiate what do you think how many

books you think it takes to get this can

we say five I said you think this is a

five book no way bro this is at least a

12 13 book Dad this is not 12 or 13 okay

so what do you want to do how about

seven or eight eight it is deal boom and

we negotiate okay and I have to do 20

pages every day it doesn't matter if

we're in Christmas Vacation they they

have zero break as long as I'm around

and one day here's a hard part about

setting the standard this is the real

standard um so I set the standard four

years ago when my oldest was seven H and

I come home to Jen and my nanny I said

okay everybody everybody David when they

turn 7 years old they have to read 6

years old they have to read 20 pages

every day babe what are you talking

about that's a little extreme here we go

again another extreme thing and da d d I

said

babe I don't ask you for a lot of things

but I'm telling you they're going to

read 20 pages every day who else does

this I'm a beted David they're bed

Davids I'm not compromising they're

going to read this Melva the kids cannot

turn on the TV until they read 20 pages

every day okay Daddy she always calls me

Daddy no problem the lady's almost 7

years old but she's always called me

Daddy Okay cool so I go to work come

back first

day I come home they're watching

TV babe Mela Pap okay Melva at the time

wanted one of these TVs you know these

weird looking TVs I don't know why but

she wanted one of these TV so I bought

that TV and I put her in her bedroom

she's very happy I come in the next day

and I see them seeing me com in

and they run and they grab a book and

they turn off the TV oh my

God so I had just bought him an Xbox two

weeks prior to that I come inside and

I'm like so were you guys watching TV

Dylan's like yes we were watching TV I

appreciate you Dilly it's okay here's

what's going to happen grab the Xbox

what are we doing with the Xbox grab it

with you grab it we go in the trash

throw in the trash wow babe what are you

doing babee it's going in the trash

threw in the trash through all the games

joysticks all in the trash I said Melva

I'm coming to grab your TV next no Daddy

please no Daddy I said no Melva you

don't respect my

standard you asked me for the TV I got

you the TV I'm asking you these are my

kids in 25 years no one's going to ask

which Nanny raised these kids they're

going to say who was their

father I'm responsible for these guys

become a leaders not you you're helping

me and I appreciate you but I need you

to understand this is my standard and I

don't want you to compromise it am I

clear am I clear kids babe am I clear I

got you crystal clear next day till

today never had an issue it became a

stand became a standard but the but the

point the moral Dory that I'm G

somebody's going to watch and say what

an I love this I could never be

with a guy like you I would never be

with you I mean you like you you could

never keep a guy like me let alone be

with a guy like me it's not this is not

about some woman thing just because

you're hot it's like oh I can get any

man you want maybe you can get any man

you want but you can't keep any man you

want keeping is the the job it's not

about getting it getting it is anything

you know but but so the standard to me

is critical I think we have such low

standards today that everybody's trying

to please their kids I want my kids to

like me no one gives a you want

your kids to like you when they're 25

they want to come back and see you

they're independent leaders so that

that's the part where if you try to set

a standard with your kids you also need

everyone around you to be bought in so

you're not only selling to your kids you

have to sell to your wife you have to

sell your mom your grandpa if they're

like the ones that are taking care of

the kids or nanny or whoever it is you

have to sell them and they have to make

sure you're serious about it because if

you're full of they're not going to

continue with the standard it'll be a

one month thing one week thing and then

boom it's gone you started this at them

being seven this happened during covid

So Co is when I can tell you exactly

what month it started years March of

2020 is when I started what's March of

20 yeah okay so he was s years old yeah

because the way I had it it was 25 laps

of swimming every day it was 52

basketball shot makes every day it was

20 pages to read every day and it was

one hour of documentary every day now

all of those things disappeared because

school was shut down so everybody I'm

the

the teacher yeah so I'm essentially kind

of creating that as a standard and I

would choose the documentaries that they

would have to go but what did stickan

from then is the 20 pages every day so

but at what age would you start that 6

years old I would start and by the way

you know it's 6 years old they're not

reading like Harry Potter T books right

you know I love who HQ books for the

most part like we have 600 whq books in

in our house I love HQ books I read HQ

books cuz they're fantastic I don't know

if you're familiar with these HQ these

are small you know how you go and buy

like 12 books that are 70 pages with

pictures and all it's phenomenal right

how they have this there's a lot of good

books like that out there but I start

seven years old with HQ books and then

at around nine eight or nine years old

I'm going to give you your first big

book to read and at around nine 10 years

old you're going to get business books

to read and you know mindset books to

read always physical I'm physical

they've never read on Kindle nice what

you T touched

on the woman in your life how do you

balance that

with social media uh desire how do you

how do you balance it all desire like

other women whatever yeah yeah so that's

a great question so let's process that

so my wife and I we met June of

o2 I was with another girl at the time

I'm in the bathroom and my friend

Fernando lasso says hey there's girl in

the training room uh Pocahontas is here

said Pocahontas why Pocahontas and I go

in there and I see her she's talking to

my ex-girlfriend and they're talking to

each other my girlfriend introduced me

to my wife she say hey babe here's a

girl she just got started her name is

Jennifer hi Jennifer how are you her

hair was all the way down to her lower

back five and a half years later was the

first time we were both single so we

started dating December of

2007 we start dating December 29th we go

on our first date uh pfj M and then a

year and a half later we got married and

then boom obviously we got SE four kids

today uh congratulations thank you yeah

so I've intentionally always put her

office next to mine we've always worked

together wow my office is here her

office is here like right now if you go

into the building her office right next

to mine so I see her every day when I go

to work when I'm on the road traveling

um I travel with two other men

intentionally I travel with two other

men when you travel by yourself you'll

be be tempted to do something stupid

okay because men have a history and

track record of doing that and I'm just

like any other man I have desires as

well I see beautiful women I look at I'm

like oh my God this girl's gorgeous just

like any other guy does uh and I know I

have to do my best to put myself in

situations where I decrease the chances

of doing something dumb and stupid right

you have to be able to do that and

that's not easy to do and the bigger you

get the more Temptation you're going to

have and it's more quality temp

and it's more famous Temptation and

they're more direct about it they're

just coming to you and it's no filters

uh and so you have to be aware of that

you know these opportunities are going

to come and there's you're going to be a

Target and it's going to be constant but

uh yeah I mean again if you think you're

bulletproof 100% you know there's no way

in the world you're probably going to be

the one that's going to be more likely

of doing stupid things but if you see

that hey I can make a stupid decision

what can I do to decrease my chances

then you're playing defense which you're

being proactive about it but that that's

what I've done about my wife and I we

have dinner every Saturday night uh

Sundays is my family's day you know we

haded a tradition summer and Christmas

what we do Christmas this Christmas was

incredible we're at Aspen we got this

house I don't know 50 acre 20,000 foot

house nine bedrooms we're having a blast

kids are having a blast we're outside

swimming pool years coming ski and all

the stuff summertime we go to all over

the place you know and then we also do

our own individual trips so there's

family trips summer and Christmas and

then there's our own individual trips

that we go to Friday night dinner at the

house Saturday night dinner with the

family Sunday church in the morning and

then we'll do what we do throughout the

time right now I'm supposed to go pick

up Dylan uh for soccer but you know I

know you and I were trying to do this so

and I just landed right now from Vegas I

was in LA yesterday and then I came here

but what were you doing there uh Vegas

yeah Vegas I had a uh uh event for one

of our guys George po had an event with

a thousand people that was speaking at

that event with VI and I had a very

important meeting with Dana White we had

a great time and then in La I had a

meeting with heavy duty manager from one

of the biggest agencies and two-hour

conversation there then we talked to a

massive production company that did a

movie last year that did a qut of a

billion dollars that we may partner with

in a

uh uh you know strategic partner type

and then I was on Bill Maher and then I

had a three-hour dinner with my good

friend Stephen A Smith which I like that

guy a lot a lot and and he's another guy

that's feisty fire debate all the just

like people like that see so you have a

little bit going on it sounds like just

a little bit it's constant right now how

do you see your children during the week

or is it mostly weekends oh I I um no I

see them like I If Dylan's got practice

I go pick him up they s he's Dylan's

right now doing so many different

sporting things and I'll go pick him up

late 8:30 so I'll stay with him till

9:00 cuz he likes to go until the lights

come off so I'll be at the field with

him so I'll go watch him play and then

pick him up come back uh but I'm working

every day from morning till night you

know I'm a probably 8 to seven8 to eight

guy unless if I'm on the road if I'm on

the road and I'm doing meetings the

other day we had a meeting here with a

guy seet executive we're trying to

recruit a chro on the HR side and this

guy was a beast working at Chevron

before and at Uber for so we had an

interview process it was number four uh

number three interview the third

interview was here with all the

executives he had to give a 10-page

slide presentation he gave right there

the potential employee had to the

potential employee and on Monday we had

a dinner at the house uh we don't hire

SE sues until we meet your wife or

husband so he came to the house with his

wife and all our Executives came with

their wives and we broke bread and we

got to know the wife and we said what

questions do you have for us this is

what we're all about anything you're

concerned about what do you think about

this and then I brought up my objections

about whether this going to work or not

and then when she leaves we make a

decision what was the score what do you

think you think it's going to work out

and then boom he accepted the offer and

I think he starts February 12 but we're

we're on a we're in a hunt right now to

do something uh pursuing our vision so

at a phase like this

um it's a very exciting phase but the

kid part you have to have people around

you that you trust that know you value

the time with your kids that find ways

to create time with your kids that's

their job as well when you're running

hey Pat we can't do this right now

because Pat's got to go pick up this hey

we can't do this right now because Pat's

got family stuff over here we can't do

this right now boom

so you how people say I'm busy you know

they're say oh I'm so busy I'm so busy

and then I used to say I'm so busy and

I'm like now I'm really busy oh I'm

so busy I'm really busy now so I'm

really really busy right now which means

I need more help and support around me

ah okay okay tell us about hiring you're

obviously known for entrepreneurship so

how do you handle hiring uh or how what

advice would you give I mean I just

heard obviously your SE example yeah so

it's so interesting you say this I've

been obsessed with studying HR okay

first Vault conference that we had my

keynote speaker was Patty McCord you

know who Patty McCord is the chief HR

officer of Netflix okay so she wrote a

book uh it's not called impossible I

don't know she wrote a book about HR

everybody who wants to know about HR go

read her book just type it Patty mcord

go book phenomenal book it's not

impossible but it's a word like that so

she comes in and she tells me how they

recruited people at Netflix how one day

at Netflix they came clear with their

values and principles they created 121

page PowerPoint slide that I don't know

if you guys have seen this or not it's

got 25 million views how many

PowerPoints have 25 million views

Netflix's values and principles has

nearly 25 plus million views okay and

what do they talk about in there this is

who we are d d by the time you're done

reading you're like I want to apply to

work at Netflix that's how they did it

right okay so I've been on a mission to

learn a little bit more about how uh HR

works and then

eventually uh I sit down with this guy

that we're doing the interview and I

said so tell me about Chevron what's

Chevron like when he worked there he

says oh Chevron it's a very

familyfriendly company I said Chevron I

wouldn't expect that would you have

expect I wouldn't have expected that oh

chevron's a very familyfriendly company

tell me why you know what the average

you know lifespan of an employee is at

Chevron how many 25 years what 25 years

what does Chevron do chevron likes to

move people Chevron likes to get you to

work in this market and then this and

they move you to South Africa and then

they move you to this and then they move

you in different kind of job

responsibilities so you're getting more

versatile I said but why do people stick

around that long oh their Pension Plan

they're one of the only companies that

still has an incredible pension plan as

there is their Pension Plan like a

military type what do you mean in a

military if you're in there for 20 years

they get 50% of your rre your salary 25

years 75% 30 years 100% so if I'm making

8 Grand a month and I give 30 years for

the rest of my life the military is

going to pay me 8 Grand a month for the

rest of my life yes sick I'll give you

30 years maybe I'm at 26 I'll go four

more years to go from 75 to 100 yes

that's exactly an element of how Chevron

does it so I sat there like what if I

did that about Val tainment what if I

say something you give me this much I'll

give you this much you give me 20 years

I'll give you 50% of your salary for the

rest of your life what does that look

like can we do that can we afford to do

that so now you're thinking anyways

finally sitting interviewing this I'm

like give me Uber's HR structure what

it's like first I have the chro then

they got this and they got this this

this this that this department has this

many employees that department has this

many employees it's 445 employees on

Talent acquisition it's 500 of which 250

is full-time 250 is independent

contractor I'm getting all this info

that's that's in there eventually with

all this inventory we finally came up

with a system the number one thing with

hiring Talent is attracting attracting

most people don't attract to attract you

have to be known you attracted him you

don't recruit him you attracted him

first he came to you right and he didn't

come to you

because he's like I want to help you why

cuz you're attractive I'm going to come

and be attracted to your vision and your

cause I'll help you out people say I

want to go work for Facebook I'm attract

man what an attractive opportunity to be

a part of you know I want to go work

with the Milwaukee Bucks what an

attractive guy jannis is I want to work

I think this guy's going places so if

you're lucky number one is attract then

you recruit them okay then you engage

them this is where the ball is drop

we'll come back to engage here in a

minute so attract recruit

engage

retain then you lead build Drive

duplicate okay lead Drive build build

duplicate those four things but let's go

to engage so what is engage onboarding

too many times somebody hires somebody

they don't really know what they want

them to do they haven't taken the time

to written write out exactly what they

want that person's job description to be

sure I want you to do XYZ then I want

you to do this I want you to do this on

Monday then I want you to do this on

okay great then they don't bring them to

an environment that they don't know

anybody so they're not getting

acclimated with other people so imagine

typically when we go to a place and we

don't know anybody who do we talk to to

nobody right cuz we're like dude I'm not

comfortable talking to anybody so

somebody that's on boarding hey guys

this is Johnny here Johnny's going to be

helping us with this he's working with

Kevin hey Larry hey meet Johnny Johnny's

gonna be doing this he's gonna be

working with Kevin his background is

this hey

Jackie hey Billy hey guys me hey hey hey

what's up Johnny what's up and it's kind

of like oh what's oh what really you

want there yeah me too no yeah

crazy you went there I went to that

college now they're going to do lunch

together now there's some kind of an

affinity and some kind of a relationship

being built and then followup engagement

so how is that going on did you say over

Zoom anything that maybe right anything

maybe to engage him Zoom obviously it's

going to it's a different kind of an

environment but engage is key the more

we engage the new recruit manage

expectation onboard them properly tell

them the step-by-step process on how we

do certain things and procedures within

the company that increases the

likelihood of you being able to retain

them how you engaging that again how did

you do that when you were starting out

very hard because nobody knows who we

are so you don't attract and you also

don't know what you want everybody to do

yet that's right you're you're right but

so so the the first time I hired a SE

with executive I'm like dude I have no

clue what I tell this guy all right so

how what' you do today uh oh okay

oh you know it's like and you it

was almost scary when you hired the

first executive cuz this person's got a

nice degree worked at a $400 billion

company you know it's like it's

intimidating and then you hire your

second third fourth fifth and you screw

up most of the time you screw up the

first 100% of seite Executives you hire

I got lucky uh with the second one he

stayed with me for 10 years he ended up

having a multi- figure exit when we sold

the company very good situation for him

so he was very happy that's the benefit

of coming early right you get Equity of

additional ancillary benefits that comes

to you but yeah you don't know but

here's also the thing when you bring

somebody in and they say no to you and

you're small and they're fully qualified

they also know you don't know everything

and they also know they're going to come

and show to you results very quickly

because they know how they can help you

out that's what makes them a leader

right they're going to come in they're

gon to say I just want to let you know I

talk to everybody on the team I found

out certain things here's a good bat and

the Ugly I think this person we need to

fire I think this person we need to

retain and I got to work him but I think

these two people we got to give them a

race because we can't afford to lose

these two people that's a leader when

they come in and do something like that

and then uh a couple other things I know

it's not part of my responsibilities I

went into to the other department

because I think there's some kind of a

connection between my department and

theirs I met with the heads of all those

departments and those departments I took

all of them to lunch like this guy's a

leader that's what leaders do you have

to tell them to do that kind of stuff

okay and FYI one thing I did I want to

looked at our website I found 17

mistakes don't worry about it I've

already talked to Larry Larry's already

addressed 16 the last one we need to do

graphic design so we're working on that

mockup I'll show you five options to see

which one you like I think one of the

pictures I saw there from used from four

years ago I don't think it's a bad idea

for you to do new photo shoot maybe

whenever you're ready in the next two to

four weeks like you see what this

person's doing this is what a great

executive does they play often so that's

that part with hir ring but when you're

smaller which one of those matters the

most selling the dream you have to sell

the dream because when you're small and

nobody knows who the hell you are why am

I joining your company you got to S me a

dream let me tell you what the vision is

here's how we got started one day I was

doing this this is what hit me I saw

what this company was doing I read this

book called Blue Ocean strategy we felt

like we can do it better in this

way and here's what we're going to be

one day and this is the friendship and

that's why I think if you get involved

with us and if this works out we can

potentially do this one day you're

selling the dream as you get bigger the

less you have to sell the dream because

it's already obvious everybody knows

right so good question because there

timing on when you recruit them see I

like what you just mentioned about how

we can improve something it's all about

providing value as a business a lot of

folks and quite frankly media today see

capitalism as greedy or taking versus

spreading what's your response to okay

so elon's worth what $250 billion yeah

and his daughter well still daughter

anyway one I think she's

trans anyway but she disowned him

because elon's the greedy capitalist

okay and by the way he says he says

that's the toughest thing he says

nothing hurts me more than when I think

about my daughter okay that brings him a

lot of pain but let's talk about Elan

okay $250

billion of the $250 billion that he's

got how much of it of the company is not

his net worth so what's Tesla worth

what's SpaceX worth what are all these

companies worth what's X worth he lost

$30 billion on X already cuz he bought

it for $44 it's only an1 billion company

so he lost 33 billion there but the

reality of it

is he doesn't Own 100% of Tesla right he

owns a percentage of Tesla 15 or

something on he owns 15 so if he owns

15% of Tesla and let's just say that's

$150 billion dollar to his net worth

where's the other 850 other people that

became millionaires decamillionaires

hecta millionaires and billionaires

because of an operator getting to work

how many Teslas are out there how many

jobs are that create how many you know

unique jobs created for somebody that's

working on the semiconductor chip that's

not even here in the in Taiwan do you

know how many International jobs this

capitalist has

created again go back to thinking about

hero making machine Bernie Sanders who

is a Socialist Communist on his

honeymoon he decides to go to USSR

Soviet Union on his honeymoon he's a

true communist him and his wife go there

and Bernie Sanders the level of

hypocrisy with people on the other side

gets up there and talk about all these

Millionaires and billionaires

Millionaires and billionaires we got to

tax these Millionaires and billionaires

and he becomes a millionaire and you see

the video the year he becomes a

millionaire we need to start taxing

these billionaires and billionaires how

come you don't say millionaire anymore

oh oh because you're a millionaire now

oh here's another one for you um Sanders

wife I think her name is Jane she got

$116,000 advance on a book uh 7 years

ago the publisher still doesn't have a

book how many Publishers give $106,000

to a writer how long you think they

expect to get a book a year two years

three years seven years they still don't

have a book no book why don't you give

the money back to the publisher they're

such socialist and communist why keep

the money you haven't delivered on a

product here's another one for you how

about when Bernie Sanders was bitching

about Amazon Walmart going to minimum

wage of 15 bucks and he gets caught that

he was paying his employees 13 bucks and

he had to you really like Bernie no by

the way here's the thing I like Bernie

more than

Hillary let me tell you why the emails

let me tell you why the reason why I

like Bernie more than Hillary is I

actually think Bernie believes in what

he talks about oh I don't think Hillary

does I think Hillary will say anything

to get elected I don't think Hillary is

a I think Hillary is a staunch

capitalist she's a center right person

but she runs as a Democrat because

that's the party that she can get the

votes from and she'll say anything and

everything to get elected right but like

Nikki Haley Nikki Haley will say

anything to get elected Nikki Haley 70%

of the people that voted for her in New

Hampshire weren't

Republicans and Trump 70% of the people

that voted for him in New Hampshire were

Republicans so Nikki Haley Democrats

like Nikki Haley you know so they'll

support her in a way because you know

they kind of don't want the other guy

but yeah socialism communism so for

capitalism

we can bash you know capitalist all we

want but they're results driven

California Nome oh he's a winner oh he's

a politician Bill marah said this oh

he's just a winner I said based on what

you have any data oh he's a winner based

on what oh shut up I'm just saying he's

a winner that's it so he's a winner do

you want to do you want to talk about

data I so let me ask you this question

in the history of California been around

since 1851 let's rank the top fif top

five worst people that negative

negatively impacted the state of

California I said I don't know where

Nome ranks whether he's number one or

not but he's one of the five worst

people that hurt the state of California

why

1851 till covid hitting the next year

every year the state has lost people why

why do you lose people when a company

loses employees they say oh such and

such Jeff Bezos just lost six of his

Executives he must be a tyrant of a

CEO that's what he is but no you know

Nome 350,000 net migration Nega 50 wor

state of people leaving to another state

oh they're leaving because they're

greedy capitalists don't want to pay

they're avoiding taxes oh really so what

a great spin job you're doing maybe it's

because he sucks as a governor maybe

it's because homelessness 46 out of

10,000 people in the state of California

or homeless and it's climbing why people

are sick of it taxes High why you had

all this money you spent how why covid

people left you why you paid people in

your state for people to report others

if they were going to work and they were

non-essential and there was some kind of

I think via gr or one of the Mayors was

paying $200 if he can snitch on somebody

what kind of a state are you building so

numbers will say that guy's not a good

Governor now numbers will say the San is

during Florida number one net migration

number two is Texas number three is

Tennessee 49 is New York 48 I believe is

Illinois why it's results right so so

the thing with capitalism is you can

actually say this guy's a good

capitalist this guy sucks because it's

data driven politics it's

because politics is about who can do a

better job spinning ah inter who can do

a better job gaming yeah you had very

strong resentment for the idea that

Hillary would say something that she

doesn't believe in to get vot that was

clearly more disgusting to you than

Bernie being hypocritical am I clear

about that of course by the way uh uh

AOC okay AOC to me is I actually think

she believes what she talks about and

she's a fighter you got to respect that

okay AOC is now she's going to get older

and maybe some of the policies going to

change but I think Nikki Haley she'll

say anything to get elected anything to

raise money Hillary Clinton anything

Nome anything by the way this isn't a

left thing this is this is a quality of

a man that's willing to say anything to

get elected so Mitt Romney second debate

with Obama he's ahead he challenged M

Benghazi he's supposed to be president

his campaign people tell him hey people

don't like it when you called the

president out the way you did you're

losing votes with single woman be a

little bit more gentle on the third

debate he's simple and easy going on

third debate because he wants to win

single women that like

salad okay and what

happens Romney will never in the history

books be known as a president cuz he was

listening to some campaign guy telling

him what to say what do you believe in

get up there and fight the fight with

Benghazi they made a mistake say it

again no you got timid you conformed to

some consultant that told you what to

say you screwed up you deserve

everything that you got for not being a

president you will never be known as a

president because you listen to a

consultant that try to get you to please

an audience and you try to be like like

everybody else you lost the other guy

who talks as a president you'll

never be a president same with Hillary

unfortunately again my opinion somebody

can debate it break it down this guy has

no clue what he's talking about this is

my opinion you've mentioned D santis is

a big reason why you your family your

businesses moved to Florida what exactly

about DeSantis Drew

you I think he uh uh defense uh free

market capitalists job creators I think

during covid new shut down Disneyland

the Santas kept Disney World open and

the businesses around Disney World kept

thriving and they were making money

because a lot of Orlando's small

businesses made money based on the

tourists coming to Disney World that's a

big business there so imagine a local

restaurants or additional things that

people want to do around Disney World

hotels all that stuff you shut down

Disney World hotels are getting hurt

everybody's getting hurt theaters are

getting hurt so case study again new

some case study Disneyland Florida case

study Disney World he shut it down

78,000 jobs or whatever the number was

here the santis kept it open great yeah

hey all these Republicans are bad people

they suck black lives matter where the

NBA BLM black lives matter uh Governor

Nome is a real great Governor I'm sorry

uh Adam Silver and and LeBron James and

and NBA where did you guys host your uh

playoffs oh uh Orlando Florida oh oh wow

respect because Florida's a free state

brilliant huh UFC Jacksonville you know

Califoria hey data data data data data

data you kidding me like you know how

many people move to the state this is

how much taxes we pay state you pay

133 I don't know what the numbers on how

you doing I'm sure you got good account

but you pay a lot this is it for us zero

right I was in Nevada Yesterday by the

way they're starting to be very

competitive they're being very very

competitive right on who they're

attracting what's going on Dana White

swears by uh Nevada and Las Vegas he

says this is my town this is my state he

swears by it right and people are moving

Mark Walberg moved there bunch of people

are moving there but yeah again data

driven number one homelessness over

there okay I mean there's so many

different things I can tell you but uh

yeah the santis provided the lifestyle

that I wanted to have and that's what we

ended up Florida if it was about taxes

why not Puerto Rico you could have been

at 4% not the best education for my kids

uh not the best lifestyle again you

considered it I did because they have

the 420 rule right you know 4% over 20

years and all that stuff and a lot I

think Logan Paula is over there I think

you know shiff is over there gamon I

think is quite a lot of people are are

over there but I'm married with young

kids and when you're married with young

kids you make different kind of

decisions than when you are not married

and maybe you don't have young kids

maybe you are married and your kids are

older I'm married if I was 62 years old

or 58 years old and my kids are all

grown above 25 years old I would

consider Puerto Rico but I'm also an

operator what I mean by an operator is I

work every day and I'm coming to an

office with people that I want to work

and build with and Florida is a perfect

place for me to be because New York 3

hours boom boom I'm in a good place

Market's good lifestyle is good I enjoy

this place Puerto Rico gets hit by a

hurricane every two years and it's not a

pretty one when it hits it Hurricane

Jose destroyed Puerto Rico the

infrastructure is much weaker than what

you have in Florida to withstand the

hurricane we have we have 700 insurance

agents and PHP in Puerto Rico we we know

Puerto Rico law pretty closely our

lawyers and our accountants do and we

have a lot of offices in Puerto Rico but

it's a different kind of an

infrastructure do you ever mov to

California no wow even if it was Zero

tax today yeah no I like it here I'm

good here I like it here I by the way

and I'm not trying to be condescending I

love California I'm not sitting here

playing you know I'm a I'm a la kid man

I'm a Tupac guy I'm a to Live and Die in

LA that was my song and you know I'm a

guy that too short you know music uh uh

rap and Forte San Francisco I'm e NWA

Ice Cube Snoop I'm I'm I'm that guy I'm

I'm a DieHard Laker Kobe guy first time

I didn't root for the Lakers was a

LeBron moved to the Lakers but I'm all

La I just think they screwed up and I

know a lot of times people are like hey

do you have any what if you come to LA

and you run and you do Governor St I'm

good I'm happy where I'm at right now I

think I think uh California is

eventually going to have somebody like

yourself that I think is going to run

and win and they're going to turn things

around but till then they have to find

the right person to run cuz Larry Elder

couldn't do it um they didn't support

him it's going to be an interesting cat

to be able to pull it off yeah did uh

Des santis go too far against Disney did

he make a mistake with with the

anti-woke movement is that what

sandbagged his campaign I I don't know I

think the Santos made a few mistakes but

you know every time you play it's easy

to always say the mistakes that the

individual made right so and everybody

does it to us as well the mistakes you

made so I was on a a Twitter space the

other day x space the other day and they

were asking me questions that's when the

Santa suspended his campaign and he

stepped out and endorsed Trump and you

know what do you think about this I said

look let's just face it for about a week

that the santis camp is going to be sour

upset annoyed and we can't be sitting

there saying I told you so I told you

this I told you that like kind of being

an about it like you're team one

congrats bro good for you you know and

you move on right but there's a few

things when I had him on the podcast and

we were having a conversation together

one of the things that was very

interesting uh I think his marketing

campaign sucked mhm I think there team

thought Trump was going to be dropping

out because and I think this is the big

one Kevin I think their team thought he

was going to drop out and when he was

going to drop out he would have came in

and defended Trump and Maga would have

gone behind him I think that's what he

thought and then more and more they

waited they realized that's not

happening so now what do we do you have

to go against Trump and they kind of

when when I communicated with their

media team you know how they talk to you

they talk to you as if he was already

the president oh wow attractive that's a

little arrogant eh oh it's so

unattractive so unattractive and they

got more and more humble by the month

and the and the more less they were

ranking the more humble and easier they

were to deal with so unattractive when

they had the money um and they had the

success and then just kind of a little

bit pompous and then the other thing is

when I asked him a question I said so

when you decided to run for president

did you ever call Trump why would I uh

like what do you mean why would you that

that guy helped you become a governor

you think you would have won without him

I still would have won you won by 34,000

votes you wouldn't have won you wouldn't

have won the truth you know it when you

say you would have won you would have

never won without him the first time

second time around one and a half

million you won first time around 34,000

he helped you win wow that guy was your

flag car but you don't want to give him

credit it's a little bit unattractive so

I said you know in my mind if he would

have called president and gone to Mar

Lago and met with him and say hey I want

to run okay are you okay with that and I

believe President Trump would have

said I think you got to do what you need

to do but uh I value loyalty so you can

run but be respectful and let's see what

happens later on in the future and if

I'm the candidate and I got a big lead

ahead of you I expect you to support me

and drop out I think Trump would have

said something like that so to not have

that conversation and that meeting you

know what that told me that told me you

don't have diplomacy

because if you're having issues with

Putin and all these guys you're not

going to go meet with them first thing

you need to do is hey I'm flying out to

Russia I want to have a meeting with you

tomorrow hey zalinsky let's have a

meeting with me you and Putin in XYZ

right hey you know uh you know G we're

going to have a meeting that's how Trump

is and he's willing to have that meeting

Reagan was like that as well a lot of

these other guys were like that as well

isn't that important being in person

with people I think it is yeah I think

it is that's why I'm not a work from

home company we're not we like people to

be at the office what do you say when

people say oh but you're not going to

hire the best talent and you're not

going to get people aren't going to work

for you okay I say you're wrong and

let's see what happens if you think

you're right good for you but I I think

you know I said this one time and I said

so for those you guys that work from

home uh um couple of them were single I

said you ever go on a date yeah I said

how much more ambitious will you be when

you're on a date if you're at a physical

restaurant with the girl sitting across

from you on a date or if you're having a

glass of wine and so is she but you're

on a zoom oh I said I want you to think

about this if you're at a restaurant you

know if you say the right words maybe

she goes home with you yeah but if

you're on a zoom you don't give a

she's not going home with you anyways no

chance so you're not going to put the

effort that you would if you were face

to face wow what a the reality of it

right is Trump going to

win oh this is politics man this is this

is a very dirty game and this is this is

going to come down to the wire I think

Biden is going to stay Ste down at the

DNC oh wow uh have you have you looked

at the Vegas odds have you seen what's

happened the last few days no getting

priced in or what repl no no Nome was in

the top four always but you know who's

number three today Phillips Michelle

Obama's number three today wow what does

Vegas know that you and I don't know why

why does she go from 100 to1 to 11 to1

Michelle Obama Vegas odds is 11 to1

right now from 100

to1 you think Vegas is in the business

of losing money no what does Vegas know

so number one right now is Trump one to

one meaning you bet 10 grand you make 10

grand right right Biden had things like

two to one or something like that you

know so he's still second but number

three is officially Michelle Obama

number four is Nikki Haley number five

is Nome see that's so interesting I when

I met with uh George gamon boy I don't

even remember where were we uh anyway I

just met with uh George gamon and oh he

a Texas in Dallas and uh I asked him hey

the yield curve inverted in in like uh

what was it August of 2019 and I'm like

come on how could that have predicted

covid that couldn't have predicted the

recession he says it did and I thought

this was the most interesting thing I

really respect George Kevin he said

Kevin if indeed Co leaked from a lab

which we think it

did then those scientists called people

and those people made bets and the

inverted yield curve was our

insight into those bets being made the

betting Market was right and predicted

covid wow by the way that's why you got

to watch

Vegas you got to pay very close

attention to Vegas it blew my mind I was

like there's no way crazy we should go

do some boots on the ground research

soon in Vegas yeah yeah yeah I you're

going to say

Wuhan oh my gosh okay the the last topic

that I have um thank you for your time

by the way genz people are very

discouraged that they're never going to

get into Home Ownership that they're not

going to be able to make money or start

a business that they may as well just

give up what are you gonna say to your

children gen Z that's funny you know gen

Z is more likely to be part of lgbtq

than Republican did you see that stat

that came in today wait wait wait more

likely to be either lesbian gay

transgender than than

Republican oh my God it's comedy for

that's supposed to be 50/50 but you're

comparing like what maybe a 10% to it's

not supposed to be 5050 it's supposed to

be dramatically like you know a chance

of being a no Dem versus Republican 50

but the other would be like 10% versus a

50% off like 1090 this is not even

political that's like the the lgbtq

they're more likely to be

lgbtq than to be a republican wow gen Z

right now 40% of them 39% of according

to an article that came out today turn

down promotions because they value

Harmony and balance

more than they do money and advancement

in life gen Z they're so confused today

and it's totally fine it's totally

normal here's what happens with life

that all of us went through when I was

21 years old I'm clubbing six days a

week in La I'm going to sadle Ranch on

whatever the night it was I would go to

you know Miyagi I would go to Dublin's I

would go to Palace I would go to Garden

of Eden I would go to uh century Club I

would go to all these crazy places same

night of course same night yeah but no I

was out running six days a week so guess

what I'm living for myself sleeping in

relaxing kicking back drinking working

out girls left and right no care for

anything in the world right and I valued

you know balance in life and who wants

to do this and this and that okay

totally get it then there's three things

that you have an edge on in life you're

going to change gen Z but you're going

to change because of one of three

reasons and here's how life Works you're

either going to change because of

intentionally you're going to choose to

change and not fall for the BS that

everybody else is falling for the Trap

of saying oh I value Harmony and I don't

care about all the money and all this

okay okay keep saying the stuff you're

were saying if you choose to

intentionally change you got an edge a

lot of times people you know wait till

their dad dies

and then they say I love you a lot of

times people you know get their act

together and stop doing drugs and

alcohol because their girlfriend and the

love of their lives or their wife left

them and then they change they don't

change intentionally the people that

went at the highest level choose to

change that's intentional second one is

accidental change what's accidental

change accidental change is I all of a

sudden get a job with you and I'm around

you accidentally all of you are talking

about not eating you know

sugar none of you guys drink soda so I'm

like okay like for example I have

haven't had a single Coke Zero or Coke

or any kind of soda since since uh July

of 2019 why because I'm having lunch

with David Hayes and Ian Benedict Ian

Benedict looks like freaking Brad Pit

good-looking guy and David Hayes is a

awesome guy both of them are great guys

one's my CFO one's my CIO and Ian

Benedict I say Ian I noticed you just

drink water you don't drink soda no I

don't drink soda really yeah I haven't

drank soda for a long time I said how

long said 7 years so huh okay I'm not

going to drink soda for a week so here

you can take this Coke Zero I set it

aside that's the last time I drank soda

why because of I that's accidental that

wasn't intentional that was accidental

people around me so you have a benefit

by the people you're around and then the

last one is force unfortunately many of

these genz people are going to be

changing by force

uh and force sucks because Force One day

they're going to wake up and they're

going to realize the person that works

from the office gets a promotion and you

don't they're going to realize the

person that is reliable shows up on time

works hard you know adds additional

skills gets a promotion and you don't

you you show up late you blame you

keep quitting jobs blaming your boss

you've changed six jobs in the last two

years you're not reliable you're not

Dependable you're the biggest

complaining bitching you want everybody

to give you something you're entitled

and eventually you will be forced to

change the forc community always have

the worst

life they always have the worst life

because nothing great happens in life by

you being the person that's forced to

change the best life are typically the

people that intentionally choose to

change or accidental the force Community

expect a very difficult life for many

many years to come has entitlement

gotten worse of course it has because

again but going back to the same thing I

said at the beginning hero making

machine

the reason why J is doing what they're

doing is because that's the hero we're

selling we're selling that as a hero and

they're buying it we're selling people

going and complaining about their jobs

on Tik Tok and it gets 28 million views

oh let me go about my boss because

that's cool to do right we're selling

writing negative reviews about companies

how about creating a glass store and

flip it how about we write reviews on

you how about we write reviews on

employees not the other way around maybe

you were a terrible employee and maybe

the last four employers agree with with

me but nobody knows about it so guess

what the fifth company's going to be

screwed to hire you and they're going to

get somebody that we could have saved

that person a lot of time or you would

have had to change cuz your score sucks

but no we don't want to score employees

because no no HR won't let you do it oh

no no no no no we need to fully put the

accountability on everybody because life

is hard so these guys sitting around

bitching and complain about it and by

the way again remember I remember being

21 and I remember I was also somebody

that complained I was somebody that

didn't want to you know I understand all

that stuff but I chose to change what

changed you because 25 is when you

turned religious D had a heart attack

dad had a heart attack and he was going

to die and I went to the UCLA Medical

Center and um I saw the nurses were not

being quick to my you know getting to my

dad and they disrespected my dad and

then I disrespected them and cops came

and they kicked me out and a lady said

the most powerful thing what makes you

so entitled to think we have to take

care of that quickly you know who pays

for your dad's Healthcare the government

does taxpayers not you oh oh my God I'll

never forget that lady and I just lost

it kicked me out I'm downstairs in my

car crying like a little baby I'm like

your dad's going to die because your

lazy ass wants to chase girls and go

freaking party six days a week and for

the rest of your life you will never say

this to anybody but you will hold on to

it internally your dad died because the

only son he had was a freaking

schlep you will eat that you will live

with that for the rest of your freaking

life you want that man to die keep doing

the same you're doing go ahead

came to work the next day started

working 100 hours a week and then I

retired my dad and then it was done and

also it helped that one of our relatives

disrespected my dad in front of me

and and uh I brought him home and I said

the world's going to know how amazing of

a father you've been and I guarantee

going to have to kill me that but

they're going to know your last name

they're going to know your last name

they're going to kill me if they have to

but they're going to know your last name

I promise you I was 2425 when I told

them that and then I never went to the

club it was so bad one of the girls I

was dating dropped a gorgeous girl one

of the most beautiful girls I've seen in

my life second to my wife dropped that

gorgeous girl and she's like there's no

way he can resist me I said I'm telling

you I'm done she says there's no way he

can resist me comes to the house in a

birthday suit and I'm like dude I'm

going straight to the bathroom I I know

how to please myself you don't have to

worry about this but you got to get out

and she's like you going to say no to

this not easy but you got to get out and

that's when I knew I could control R and

I said okay good things are going to

happen to you I'll never foret and she

knows who she is and she knows the story

we're still good friends still today but

I um yeah it's it's a when you make real

decisions and everybody around you

realizes it's real and you realize it's

real and you want to make some

sacrifices I don't know why but great

things happened to you again intentional

accidental force a part of the decision

I made is because my dad was at UCL

Medical Center he didn't die he's still

alive but I chose to say I'm changing

everything in my life changed good for

you that was really empowering why why

Christianity specifically you went from

denying a thousand Gods to denying 999

why that one well you know listen I mean

Christianity for me um when you when you

study who Jesus was nobody denies that

Jesus existed not Muslims you're the

only one that do is Jews right and and

Jews don't even deny Jews just say that

he's not you know the prophet he's just

a you know the guy that came in good man

but not the Messiah right okay and he

says he was and what are the

chances of the guy that is born his mom

says I didn't sleep with

anybody and my skeptical self on how I

am I'm like yeah okay

yeah how many women back in the days

would say I didn't sleep with anybody

and they were in a barn with somebody

getting hooked up you know that's

probably what she did okay let's say

you're right

Pat baby's born she's saying I haven't

had sex with anybody I don't know what's

going on here the baby is born and then

that person who you claim that lied that

son ends up becoming

Jesus what are the odds of all of this

crazy stuff happen at the same time kind

of weird dog wow this is makes me a

little bit uncomfortable right so and

then you're like okay uh what are the

other religions that I have to choose

from I like Buddhism but it's not

religion it's a way of life it's a

philosophy um I think I would have been

a Buddhist because of that's a bringing

your temperament down I'm fully about

stoicism and what senica did and what

you know a lot of these guys Marcus

aelius did I'm a big meditations guy I'm

a big stoic guy but yeah for me it was a

lot of those things that led to my

decision of

Christianity wow advice final thoughts

for any of the viewers uh whether it's

wealth creation investing yourself

entrepreneurship any final thoughts yeah

I'll give you a couple things one uh

best benefit you know like if you want

to accelerate speed is there's such a

big benefit to working under somebody

that's a killer that's on a mission

that's winning and being able to get in

the door of that person closing deals

negotiating winning deciding hiring

firing chaos nasty situations having to

slay some dragons or whatever it's going

on because you learn how you go through

the shitty situation like you know maybe

even there's an enemy and there's like a

you know real war going on with another

competitor if you're able to work under

somebody else and Shadow them it's the

fastest way for you to have success and

the second thing I'll tell you is if you

can get clear on your values and

principles and the way you live is as

aign to your values and princip as

possible you will have the closest

chance of living a you know fulfilled

peaceful life but anytime I was bitter

or miserable or annoying to be around is

because the way I was living didn't