Oh my F*: This Jobs Report Changes EVERYTHING.
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Today's job numbers look really good.
And frankly, there's nothing in the job
numbers today that say we're in a
recession. Absolutely nothing that says
we're in a recession right now. There's
also nothing that really tells us we're
going into a recession. However, there's
plenty that tells us we are in a late
stage of the employment market. And I'll
explain what I mean by that. It's not
something that's like, oh no, it's
really oo bearish. but it's something to
pay attention to because it sets up uh
for potential weakness and I'll show you
exactly how to look for it. Uh but
first, we are now 13 minutes after the
opening bell and I just like to mention
that this morning in the alpha report, I
mentioned that Robin Hood because of
this tokenization drama was probably
going to lose its momentum. And as you
could see when I made that call in the
opening, Robin Hood fell right after
that. I also made a call suggesting that
it was really good that Symbotic was
holding on to the 4298 line and it could
be a breakout catalyst towards 50. As
you can see, Symbotic is absolutely
crushing it. Somebody in the chat here
uh just actually reminded me of it.
Thank you for saying that. Uh because
they're like, "Hey, thanks. Good call
this morning." Now, can't always
guarantee success, but the last few
alpha reports, actually last many alpha
reports, I feel like I've been killing
it. And if you haven't tried it out yet,
go to meetcaven.com, check out the
one-time payment option we have. You pay
once and you're in forever. Now, let's
understand what's going on with the
labor market and why I say we're in a
late phase of the labor cycle. It's very
simple. Of the 147,000 jobs that we
created, 90% of the gains came from
health care and local government
employment. In fact, 73,000 came from
government. Usually, when we're in a
later stage of the employment cycle,
the government is more capable of
hiring. Note that local and county and
state governments aren't affected by
Doge. Uh and so when the local
governments can hire, it's usually when
it's harder or when it's easier to
compete against the private sector
because the private sector really isn't
creating jobs. And so when we jump into
uh what we had in the labor report this
morning, what we really saw was a labor
report that barely showed us any private
sector job growth. 10% or about 15,000
jobs were created by the private sector
outside of health care and government.
At the same time, what we've seen over
the last 3 months is a very weird
plummeting of the labor force
participation rate. The labor force
participation rate is really sensitive.
Uh we should pull up sort of a a um a
larger chart of it. So, let's go ahead
and do that. We'll pull it up on the St.
Louis uh FRAD database here. But as you
can see, the labor force participation
rate it, you know, it moves by decibb.
So it moves like it seems like it's a
very small number that moves. But what
we've seen in the last 3 months is we've
seen this decline in the labor force
participation rate by basically one
percentage point well one.1 uh every
single month. And you start seeing that
somewhat of a rotation down. Uh now this
could be due to many things. This could
be due to people leaving the labor force
because they're retiring. It could be
because they're frustrated and that
they're discouraged that they're not
finding uh work and they're saying, you
know what, f it. I'll just I'll just not
work. Uh so retiring, leaving the labor
force, or frankly, you could also be in
an environment where you just find
people are getting deported. And so,
usually when people leave, you want to
pay attention to sort of balance out
like, uh-oh, is this decline in the
labor force participation rate an issue?
You usually want to look at the 27 weeks
unemployed level as well to try to
understand how many people are just like
they want a job but they just can't get
one when they're more than 6 months
unemployed. And you generally also find
that the labor force participation rate
stagnates or declines in recessionary
environments. Right? So just look at
history over here. Uh when you go into
recessionary environments is typically
when you get the downtrends. When you're
in expansion expansionary environments,
you get the uptrends. So uptrends and
expansion either deceleration or
stagnation and recession. Here you can
see stagnation in recessionary
environments, acceleration during
periods of growth. So you can really see
our growth period 2021 all the way into
2023. And then at 24 we we really
started hitting a turning point. Now,
sometimes it doesn't always equal
recession though because I mean, well,
it's hard to say because look over here,
2002, 2003, early 2003. These were still
environments where we're coming out of
the dotcom bubble. So, they could also
be postrecessionary reverberations. You
didn't really see the participation rate
start expanding until 20 uh 2005. And
you could actually see the participation
rate just kept collapsing following 2011
all the way out to 2015.
So the participation rate isn't always a
really useful tool to say, "Oh, we're
definitely uh having problems uh in in a
recessionary state." This is why we like
to look at the unemployment rate, the 27
weeks or more unemployed rate. We can
see this has popped up again, but not
meaningfully above our April high over
here. We're just more of an in an
environment where yeah, you know, we're
getting more 27 weeks or more
unemployed, but we're not at a level
where we're, you know, skyrocketing by
any means. So overall, this is good. I
mean, usually you see a skyrocketing 27
week unemployed level in a later portion
of a recession. These higher
reverberations at a more stagnated
level, they could be symptomatic of a
2005 or 2006. And so when I say we're in
like a later stage where you're getting
local state government hiring and you're
getting healthcare hiring and very very
little private hiring, it just tells you
you're probably somewhere in like a 2006
2007ish like a 67ish somewhere on there.
Not necessarily some kind of
recessionary 0809 collapse. So overall,
this is this is a good thing. This is
one of the reasons why we saw the
unemployment rate go down. It's one of
the reasons why we're seeing the odds of
a rate cut in July now basically get
crushed. Now, what it does set you up
for is potentially a layoff cycle, of
course, but that's always the concern
that we would have some kind of layoff
cycle that comes. And really, we're just
not seeing that many announced layoffs.
Yes, we're seeing these sort of rolling
announcements that get these uh, you
know, breaking news headlines. Microsoft
lays off 9,000 here or there or
whatever. But what you really need to
get a real like layoff crisis is some
kind of shock where small businesses
across the board are going I can't I
can't handle it anymore. I have to lay
off and we're not seeing that which is
frankly very good. So uh 147,000
obviously better than expected. People
talk about revisions. We actually
revised last month's employment numbers
up. Now, in fairness, in August, we get
these sixmonth revisions, uh, which last
year were so negative on like an entire
half year that we ended up having a
really nasty August, but there's nothing
to say in these last two employment
reports that that is very bearish. I I
it's very hard to find anything bearish
in here. Yes, you could look at the
households numbers. The households
dropped about 130,000. So
yes, we are seeing fewer people
participate. The labor force is
shrinking. You know, household number
down, labor force participation down.
Both of those numbers contributing to a
weaker market when it comes to getting a
job. But again, the one thing that makes
that beverage curve so weird, the lack
of layoffs. And that's the same thing
that's keeping the unemployment rate now
moving down because we're not seeing the
layoffs. uh and potentially while people
are exiting for deportation reasons or
retirement reasons or whatever, there's
nothing to really say there's this huge
negative scary catalyst. And that's why
I think what we're seeing in markets
broadly is that the 102 yield curve is
actually moving in a direction of less
shock. So you can see the 102 curve,
I'll pull that up here. The 102 curve
right now is sitting at uh 46 45 now
which is significantly lower than what
we saw yesterday. Yesterday we were
starting somewhere around 55 to 52. Then
we got the Vietnam trade deal which is
good news. It's it's the first trade
deal that we have with the deficit
country. Fantastic. Finally. Now, yeah,
the rates are higher than we expected.
Is it good that we have a 20% tariff
rate on Vietnam? In my opinion, no. It's
going to create dead weight loss. It's
going to show up in in in earnings
somewhere.
But does it matter? Like, does does
Amazon care? Does uh uh you know, do the
consumers care? Probably not. Who's
probably going to care? Probably the
companies that have to import like the
Nikes. You know, they're going to have
to beat up their manufacturers and
they'll probably eat some of it, too.
Now, is that an economically horrible
thing? No. In fact, we're making
progress, which creates certainty. Now,
you get certainty on tariffs. You get
certainty on jobs. Reduces the urgency
for the Federal Reserve to to panic cut.
However, I do think the Federal Reserve
like JP, he's going to look at these
numbers. is going to go ah you know this
is these are numbers that they they they
basically they guarantee us that we are
not going to be resilient against
layoffs because again we only created
15,000 private sector jobs outside of
healthcare and uh state and local
government which is very very weak right
so that's why I say late cycle so think
about it sort of like the business cycle
you know you're not like in the crash
portion but you're just sort like you're
on that that curve where you're not
growing. You're not on the growing side
of the curve. You're on sort of the
slowing side of the curve. Does that
mean things are going to go crap
tomorrow and sell everything? No, of
course not. Uh but does it mean we're
we're prone to very crappy labor reports
if people started losing their job?
Yeah, but that's been a big if for like
a year now, right? We've been waiting
for these layoffs and they frankly
haven't come. So, which is good overall.
It's it's a bullish thing for the
economy. So, we'll see. We'll see how
things uh develop. All I know right now
is Symbotic keeps kicking butt. And
actually, if you think about it, the
labor market and the labor market
surveys that that we're getting might
actually be great for a company like
Symbotic because Symbotic is a robotics
company. Uh and I don't want to hijack a
jobs, you know, report discussion to
talk about Symbotic, but I kind of like
Symbotic. So, I've I've been doing
fundamental analysis on Symbotic for a
while now. uh not only on the YouTube
channel but in our course member live
streams. We've been talking about this
one for a while. Symbotic is a very
interesting company because in in an
expansionary economy, this is a really
fantastic company because what you have
is you have essentially the robots that
support warehouse infrastructure. So,
think Walmart, uh, Walmart's expansion
in Mexico, Walmart's, uh, uh,
distribution centers in America, other
companies like Target that start waking
up and realizing, wow, we need robots,
we need to adapt. Obviously, you know,
Amazon buys a lot of its own robotics
companies. Uh, but Symbotic is sort of
the way to roboticize your warehouses if
you don't have that internal stack. uh
and in an environment where we're moving
away from more expensive labor towards
more AI and robotics, I think symbolic
is is a very interesting play. And I
don't think it's valuation is so
terribly unreasonable. Let's run the
valuation on it, though, because it's
been a minute since I've run the uh the
price earnings on it. So, let me see
here. So, Symbotic,
you're only looking at like 10 cents of
earnings, but the earnings are expected
to explode for it. This is based on Wall
Street's expectations, right? So, let's
look at 46 divided by uh let's see here.
46 divided by 10 cents. Yeah, I mean
technically for this year's PE ratio, it
sits at 460, which is crazy, right?
Because their earnings are 10 cents
because you're coming out of a loss. So,
that's something to keep in mind. When
you transition from loss to positive,
you're always going to have what looks
like a very uh expensive PE ratio.
However, that's expected to get to 41
cents in 26. It's expected to get to 89
cents in 2028, a buck 50 in 20 uh sorry,
in 27, buck 55 in 28, and $2 in 2029. So
uh on an EPS growth basis, EPS growth is
expected to grow 305% 116% 74% and 33%
divided by 4, you're looking about 132
on a growth rate for EPS expected. Uh so
if you divide that out, you're you're
sitting at about a three peg. It's a
little it's getting a little bit on the
pricey side. Uh, and this is why I liked
it so much when it was over here in the
20 because it was trading for like a one
and a half peg, right? That said, right
now it's got momentum and that's always
a funny transition where you go from
like, wow, this is good fundamentals to,
whoa, it has momentum. And that's going
to be something to pay attention to in
an environment where we continue to see
expansion
uh of of markets because we're not
getting bad data. people are going to be
really looking for momentum plays uh and
and and things that that do benefit in
an expansionary environment. I mean,
it's one of the reasons I think Amazon
is up today because hey, good jobs mean
more people can spend, right? Maybe
government jobs, healthcare jobs,
there's still jobs. Uh private sector
really isn't hiring, but people are
trading Amazon up, which is suggestive
of potentially warehouses trading up as
well. Something interesting to pay
attention to. But that's sort of my
distillation here. Not great, not
terrible. That's sort of like the
Chernobyl line that I keep referencing.
But it's important because it it is
true. This is not this is not an economy
that's creating job everywhere. These
are not broad-based gains. These are le
cycle reports uh that show us that we
are indeed prone to uh to problems.
But those problems could be months away
or they could be years away. There's
really no way to bet on that. Uh so
we'll see. Anyway, uh oh, as far as the
Fed and the odds of them cutting, I know
that's something that's been
interesting. So, we are now at a 6.7%
chance of cutting for July. Now, this is
actually quite remarkable. We went from
almost entirely pricing in a guaranteed
cut in September to now only having a
69% chance. So a twothirds chance of
cutting in September. So you've really
seen a plummet in the odds uh of a rate
cut not only for July but also for
September. Uh as far as data that's
coming out, we did just get
S&P Global Services. They came in
slightly weaker than expected on the
services side. Composite fractionally
higher. Uh both in the expansionary
territory. So not uh necessarily
uh you know anything to phone home about
here. S&P services read
uh yeah okay
broadly in line over here with
expectations.
Okay. So, that gives us an overview of
uh some of what's going on this morning
and and my take on it. Again, check out
those courses over at meetke.com. Look
at that. Symbotics now almost up 10%.
This is remarkable. Uh almost up 10%.
That's serious momentum over here. And
uh again, if you want this sort of heads
up, remember I sent this signal out here
uh before any of the explosion uh which
is kind of cool. Check out the alpha
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part's for course members. And as
always, if you ever have any questions,
you can uh email staff me.com. I guess
we may as well look at ISM services as
well because those come out in about 10
seconds. So
ISM services slight beat prices paid
comes in lower. That's good. New orders
big beat. Uh employment misses but new
orders that big beat that's bullish.
So another another you know both of
these data reports here on the surveys
which are technically soft data. S&P
Global and ISM services. Both of these
good uh especially since you have better
than expected uh prices paid there on
the ISM survey, which is fantastic.
These are things you you want. This is
good for the uh market and the economy.
Uh and look at that Q's keep kicking
butt, which was also in our alpha report
this morning. Bearish hood, bullish
cues, bullish symbotic.
And I also said that I thought Tesla
might get stuck under 318. Uh that there
wasn't really a catalyst for it to
collapse. Like it wasn't a short
catalyst, but it was uh you know, not
not something that necessarily was
primed for a breakout today. I don't
know. Alpha Report's got something
cooking today. Why not advertise these
things that you told us here? I feel
like nobody else knows about this. We'll
we'll try a little advertising and see
how it goes. Congratulations, man. You
have done so much. People love you.
People look up to you. Kevin Pra there,
financial analyst and YouTuber. Meet
Kevin. Always great to get your take.
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