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Today's job numbers look really good.

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And frankly, there's nothing in the job

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numbers today that say we're in a

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recession. Absolutely nothing that says

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we're in a recession right now. There's

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also nothing that really tells us we're

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going into a recession. However, there's

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plenty that tells us we are in a late

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stage of the employment market. And I'll

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explain what I mean by that. It's not

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something that's like, oh no, it's

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really oo bearish. but it's something to

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pay attention to because it sets up uh

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for potential weakness and I'll show you

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exactly how to look for it. Uh but

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first, we are now 13 minutes after the

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opening bell and I just like to mention

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that this morning in the alpha report, I

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mentioned that Robin Hood because of

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this tokenization drama was probably

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going to lose its momentum. And as you

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could see when I made that call in the

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opening, Robin Hood fell right after

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that. I also made a call suggesting that

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it was really good that Symbotic was

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holding on to the 4298 line and it could

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be a breakout catalyst towards 50. As

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you can see, Symbotic is absolutely

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crushing it. Somebody in the chat here

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uh just actually reminded me of it.

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Thank you for saying that. Uh because

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they're like, "Hey, thanks. Good call

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this morning." Now, can't always

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guarantee success, but the last few

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alpha reports, actually last many alpha

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reports, I feel like I've been killing

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it. And if you haven't tried it out yet,

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go to meetcaven.com, check out the

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one-time payment option we have. You pay

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once and you're in forever. Now, let's

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understand what's going on with the

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labor market and why I say we're in a

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late phase of the labor cycle. It's very

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simple. Of the 147,000 jobs that we

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created, 90% of the gains came from

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health care and local government

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employment. In fact, 73,000 came from

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government. Usually, when we're in a

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later stage of the employment cycle,

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the government is more capable of

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hiring. Note that local and county and

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state governments aren't affected by

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Doge. Uh and so when the local

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governments can hire, it's usually when

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it's harder or when it's easier to

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compete against the private sector

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because the private sector really isn't

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creating jobs. And so when we jump into

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uh what we had in the labor report this

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morning, what we really saw was a labor

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report that barely showed us any private

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sector job growth. 10% or about 15,000

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jobs were created by the private sector

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outside of health care and government.

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At the same time, what we've seen over

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the last 3 months is a very weird

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plummeting of the labor force

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participation rate. The labor force

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participation rate is really sensitive.

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Uh we should pull up sort of a a um a

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larger chart of it. So, let's go ahead

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and do that. We'll pull it up on the St.

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Louis uh FRAD database here. But as you

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can see, the labor force participation

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rate it, you know, it moves by decibb.

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So it moves like it seems like it's a

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very small number that moves. But what

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we've seen in the last 3 months is we've

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seen this decline in the labor force

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participation rate by basically one

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percentage point well one.1 uh every

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single month. And you start seeing that

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somewhat of a rotation down. Uh now this

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could be due to many things. This could

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be due to people leaving the labor force

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because they're retiring. It could be

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because they're frustrated and that

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they're discouraged that they're not

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finding uh work and they're saying, you

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know what, f it. I'll just I'll just not

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work. Uh so retiring, leaving the labor

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force, or frankly, you could also be in

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an environment where you just find

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people are getting deported. And so,

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usually when people leave, you want to

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pay attention to sort of balance out

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like, uh-oh, is this decline in the

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labor force participation rate an issue?

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You usually want to look at the 27 weeks

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unemployed level as well to try to

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understand how many people are just like

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they want a job but they just can't get

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one when they're more than 6 months

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unemployed. And you generally also find

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that the labor force participation rate

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stagnates or declines in recessionary

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environments. Right? So just look at

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history over here. Uh when you go into

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recessionary environments is typically

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when you get the downtrends. When you're

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in expansion expansionary environments,

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you get the uptrends. So uptrends and

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expansion either deceleration or

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stagnation and recession. Here you can

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see stagnation in recessionary

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environments, acceleration during

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periods of growth. So you can really see

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our growth period 2021 all the way into

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2023. And then at 24 we we really

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started hitting a turning point. Now,

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sometimes it doesn't always equal

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recession though because I mean, well,

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it's hard to say because look over here,

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2002, 2003, early 2003. These were still

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environments where we're coming out of

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the dotcom bubble. So, they could also

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be postrecessionary reverberations. You

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didn't really see the participation rate

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start expanding until 20 uh 2005. And

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you could actually see the participation

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rate just kept collapsing following 2011

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all the way out to 2015.

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So the participation rate isn't always a

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really useful tool to say, "Oh, we're

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definitely uh having problems uh in in a

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recessionary state." This is why we like

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to look at the unemployment rate, the 27

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weeks or more unemployed rate. We can

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see this has popped up again, but not

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meaningfully above our April high over

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here. We're just more of an in an

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environment where yeah, you know, we're

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getting more 27 weeks or more

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unemployed, but we're not at a level

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where we're, you know, skyrocketing by

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any means. So overall, this is good. I

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mean, usually you see a skyrocketing 27

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week unemployed level in a later portion

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of a recession. These higher

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reverberations at a more stagnated

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level, they could be symptomatic of a

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2005 or 2006. And so when I say we're in

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like a later stage where you're getting

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local state government hiring and you're

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getting healthcare hiring and very very

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little private hiring, it just tells you

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you're probably somewhere in like a 2006

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2007ish like a 67ish somewhere on there.

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Not necessarily some kind of

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recessionary 0809 collapse. So overall,

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this is this is a good thing. This is

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one of the reasons why we saw the

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unemployment rate go down. It's one of

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the reasons why we're seeing the odds of

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a rate cut in July now basically get

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crushed. Now, what it does set you up

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for is potentially a layoff cycle, of

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course, but that's always the concern

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that we would have some kind of layoff

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cycle that comes. And really, we're just

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not seeing that many announced layoffs.

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Yes, we're seeing these sort of rolling

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announcements that get these uh, you

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know, breaking news headlines. Microsoft

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lays off 9,000 here or there or

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whatever. But what you really need to

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get a real like layoff crisis is some

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kind of shock where small businesses

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across the board are going I can't I

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can't handle it anymore. I have to lay

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off and we're not seeing that which is

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frankly very good. So uh 147,000

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obviously better than expected. People

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talk about revisions. We actually

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revised last month's employment numbers

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up. Now, in fairness, in August, we get

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these sixmonth revisions, uh, which last

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year were so negative on like an entire

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half year that we ended up having a

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really nasty August, but there's nothing

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to say in these last two employment

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reports that that is very bearish. I I

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it's very hard to find anything bearish

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in here. Yes, you could look at the

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households numbers. The households

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dropped about 130,000. So

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yes, we are seeing fewer people

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participate. The labor force is

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shrinking. You know, household number

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down, labor force participation down.

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Both of those numbers contributing to a

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weaker market when it comes to getting a

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job. But again, the one thing that makes

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that beverage curve so weird, the lack

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of layoffs. And that's the same thing

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that's keeping the unemployment rate now

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moving down because we're not seeing the

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layoffs. uh and potentially while people

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are exiting for deportation reasons or

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retirement reasons or whatever, there's

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nothing to really say there's this huge

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negative scary catalyst. And that's why

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I think what we're seeing in markets

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broadly is that the 102 yield curve is

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actually moving in a direction of less

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shock. So you can see the 102 curve,

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I'll pull that up here. The 102 curve

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right now is sitting at uh 46 45 now

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which is significantly lower than what

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we saw yesterday. Yesterday we were

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starting somewhere around 55 to 52. Then

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we got the Vietnam trade deal which is

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good news. It's it's the first trade

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deal that we have with the deficit

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country. Fantastic. Finally. Now, yeah,

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the rates are higher than we expected.

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Is it good that we have a 20% tariff

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rate on Vietnam? In my opinion, no. It's

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going to create dead weight loss. It's

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going to show up in in in earnings

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somewhere.

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But does it matter? Like, does does

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Amazon care? Does uh uh you know, do the

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consumers care? Probably not. Who's

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probably going to care? Probably the

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companies that have to import like the

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Nikes. You know, they're going to have

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to beat up their manufacturers and

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they'll probably eat some of it, too.

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Now, is that an economically horrible

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thing? No. In fact, we're making

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progress, which creates certainty. Now,

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you get certainty on tariffs. You get

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certainty on jobs. Reduces the urgency

9:38

for the Federal Reserve to to panic cut.

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However, I do think the Federal Reserve

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like JP, he's going to look at these

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numbers. is going to go ah you know this

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is these are numbers that they they they

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basically they guarantee us that we are

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not going to be resilient against

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layoffs because again we only created

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15,000 private sector jobs outside of

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healthcare and uh state and local

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government which is very very weak right

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so that's why I say late cycle so think

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about it sort of like the business cycle

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you know you're not like in the crash

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portion but you're just sort like you're

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on that that curve where you're not

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growing. You're not on the growing side

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of the curve. You're on sort of the

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slowing side of the curve. Does that

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mean things are going to go crap

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tomorrow and sell everything? No, of

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course not. Uh but does it mean we're

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we're prone to very crappy labor reports

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if people started losing their job?

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Yeah, but that's been a big if for like

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a year now, right? We've been waiting

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for these layoffs and they frankly

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haven't come. So, which is good overall.

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It's it's a bullish thing for the

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economy. So, we'll see. We'll see how

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things uh develop. All I know right now

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is Symbotic keeps kicking butt. And

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actually, if you think about it, the

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labor market and the labor market

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surveys that that we're getting might

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actually be great for a company like

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Symbotic because Symbotic is a robotics

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company. Uh and I don't want to hijack a

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jobs, you know, report discussion to

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talk about Symbotic, but I kind of like

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Symbotic. So, I've I've been doing

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fundamental analysis on Symbotic for a

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while now. uh not only on the YouTube

11:12

channel but in our course member live

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streams. We've been talking about this

11:15

one for a while. Symbotic is a very

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interesting company because in in an

11:19

expansionary economy, this is a really

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fantastic company because what you have

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is you have essentially the robots that

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support warehouse infrastructure. So,

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think Walmart, uh, Walmart's expansion

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in Mexico, Walmart's, uh, uh,

11:37

distribution centers in America, other

11:39

companies like Target that start waking

11:41

up and realizing, wow, we need robots,

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we need to adapt. Obviously, you know,

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Amazon buys a lot of its own robotics

11:47

companies. Uh, but Symbotic is sort of

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the way to roboticize your warehouses if

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you don't have that internal stack. uh

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and in an environment where we're moving

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away from more expensive labor towards

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more AI and robotics, I think symbolic

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is is a very interesting play. And I

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don't think it's valuation is so

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terribly unreasonable. Let's run the

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valuation on it, though, because it's

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been a minute since I've run the uh the

12:14

price earnings on it. So, let me see

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here. So, Symbotic,

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you're only looking at like 10 cents of

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earnings, but the earnings are expected

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to explode for it. This is based on Wall

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Street's expectations, right? So, let's

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look at 46 divided by uh let's see here.

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46 divided by 10 cents. Yeah, I mean

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technically for this year's PE ratio, it

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sits at 460, which is crazy, right?

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Because their earnings are 10 cents

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because you're coming out of a loss. So,

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that's something to keep in mind. When

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you transition from loss to positive,

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you're always going to have what looks

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like a very uh expensive PE ratio.

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However, that's expected to get to 41

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cents in 26. It's expected to get to 89

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cents in 2028, a buck 50 in 20 uh sorry,

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in 27, buck 55 in 28, and $2 in 2029. So

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uh on an EPS growth basis, EPS growth is

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expected to grow 305% 116% 74% and 33%

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divided by 4, you're looking about 132

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on a growth rate for EPS expected. Uh so

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if you divide that out, you're you're

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sitting at about a three peg. It's a

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little it's getting a little bit on the

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pricey side. Uh, and this is why I liked

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it so much when it was over here in the

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20 because it was trading for like a one

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and a half peg, right? That said, right

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now it's got momentum and that's always

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a funny transition where you go from

13:44

like, wow, this is good fundamentals to,

13:47

whoa, it has momentum. And that's going

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to be something to pay attention to in

13:51

an environment where we continue to see

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expansion

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uh of of markets because we're not

13:57

getting bad data. people are going to be

13:59

really looking for momentum plays uh and

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and and things that that do benefit in

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an expansionary environment. I mean,

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it's one of the reasons I think Amazon

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is up today because hey, good jobs mean

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more people can spend, right? Maybe

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government jobs, healthcare jobs,

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there's still jobs. Uh private sector

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really isn't hiring, but people are

14:20

trading Amazon up, which is suggestive

14:23

of potentially warehouses trading up as

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well. Something interesting to pay

14:27

attention to. But that's sort of my

14:28

distillation here. Not great, not

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terrible. That's sort of like the

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Chernobyl line that I keep referencing.

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But it's important because it it is

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true. This is not this is not an economy

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that's creating job everywhere. These

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are not broad-based gains. These are le

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cycle reports uh that show us that we

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are indeed prone to uh to problems.

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But those problems could be months away

14:57

or they could be years away. There's

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really no way to bet on that. Uh so

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we'll see. Anyway, uh oh, as far as the

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Fed and the odds of them cutting, I know

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that's something that's been

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interesting. So, we are now at a 6.7%

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chance of cutting for July. Now, this is

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actually quite remarkable. We went from

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almost entirely pricing in a guaranteed

15:21

cut in September to now only having a

15:25

69% chance. So a twothirds chance of

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cutting in September. So you've really

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seen a plummet in the odds uh of a rate

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cut not only for July but also for

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September. Uh as far as data that's

15:40

coming out, we did just get

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S&P Global Services. They came in

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slightly weaker than expected on the

15:49

services side. Composite fractionally

15:52

higher. Uh both in the expansionary

15:54

territory. So not uh necessarily

15:57

uh you know anything to phone home about

16:00

here. S&P services read

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uh yeah okay

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broadly in line over here with

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expectations.

16:12

Okay. So, that gives us an overview of

16:15

uh some of what's going on this morning

16:17

and and my take on it. Again, check out

16:20

those courses over at meetke.com. Look

16:22

at that. Symbotics now almost up 10%.

16:24

This is remarkable. Uh almost up 10%.

16:26

That's serious momentum over here. And

16:29

uh again, if you want this sort of heads

16:30

up, remember I sent this signal out here

16:34

uh before any of the explosion uh which

16:38

is kind of cool. Check out the alpha

16:39

report if you haven't yet. And if you're

16:41

an existing course member, remember you

16:43

can actually use the Meet Kevin app to

16:45

uh to get your alpha reports, which is

16:47

great because you know, you don't have

16:50

to rely on like YouTube or Discord

16:52

notifications or or whatever some other

16:54

app through there. You can customize

16:57

your notifications. If you're not a

16:58

course member, you can get the Mechan

17:00

app too if you want. It just doesn't

17:01

have the alpha report because that that

17:02

part's for course members. And as

17:04

always, if you ever have any questions,

17:06

you can uh email staff me.com. I guess

17:08

we may as well look at ISM services as

17:10

well because those come out in about 10

17:11

seconds. So

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ISM services slight beat prices paid

17:17

comes in lower. That's good. New orders

17:20

big beat. Uh employment misses but new

17:23

orders that big beat that's bullish.

17:26

So another another you know both of

17:29

these data reports here on the surveys

17:31

which are technically soft data. S&P

17:33

Global and ISM services. Both of these

17:35

good uh especially since you have better

17:38

than expected uh prices paid there on

17:40

the ISM survey, which is fantastic.

17:43

These are things you you want. This is

17:45

good for the uh market and the economy.

17:48

Uh and look at that Q's keep kicking

17:51

butt, which was also in our alpha report

17:54

this morning. Bearish hood, bullish

17:57

cues, bullish symbotic.

18:00

And I also said that I thought Tesla

18:01

might get stuck under 318. Uh that there

18:05

wasn't really a catalyst for it to

18:06

collapse. Like it wasn't a short

18:08

catalyst, but it was uh you know, not

18:10

not something that necessarily was

18:12

primed for a breakout today. I don't

18:14

know. Alpha Report's got something

18:15

cooking today. Why not advertise these

18:17

things that you told us here? I feel

18:19

like nobody else knows about this. We'll

18:20

we'll try a little advertising and see

18:22

how it goes. Congratulations, man. You

18:24

have done so much. People love you.

18:25

People look up to you. Kevin Pra there,

18:27

financial analyst and YouTuber. Meet

18:29

Kevin. Always great to get your take.

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