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more open philosophically to doing

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quantitative easing than you were

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certainly when you're doing quantitative

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tightening to the tune of of of you know

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tens of billions of dollars of of per

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month. So it looks like they're they're

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focusing more on the employment

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situation, less on the inflation

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situation.

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>> We got a cut from the Federal Reserve.

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We got strong economy GDP and

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unemployment guide in the summary of

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economic projections. And we got a

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really dovish Jerome Powell suggesting

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that jobs could be plummeting to the

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tune of 20,000 jobs per month because he

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thinks the Bureau of Labor Statistics is

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overstating the jobs report by 60,000

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jobs per month, which is the reason that

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they gave for cutting 25 basis points.

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He says that the Fed voted on a vote of

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three to nine. So three did not vote for

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this 25 cut and nine did. We got Goulsby

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and Schmid going for zero and Myron

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wanting 50. So he wanted a bigger cut,

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which is also what Hasset said earlier

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that we should be pushing for a 50 cut.

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But I want to get to the most

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interesting stuff first, which is that

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Powell told us that this jobs market is

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the big concern and they will not let

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policy stand in the way of the jobs

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market stabilizing. They say that the

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jobs market weakened more than they

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expected which contributed to this cut.

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And while they think that tariff effects

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are basically going to expire in Q1, in

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other words, peak out. So once as long

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as we don't get any new tariff

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announcements, we're going to peak out

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on inflation in the first quarter and

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then it's down on inflation from there

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and we should be able to support the

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jobs market. Now he says we're at

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neutral now, which is a little bit

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hawkish, right? Because it's like, wait,

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so no more cuts? But he's also basically

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telling you, hey, look, no more cuts,

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but if if the job market actually keeps

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weakening like this, we're going to keep

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cutting and cutting and printing

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basically. So, we got to break this

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down. Makes it clear towards the end of

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his press conference that the labor

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market has significant downside risk.

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And he kind of it's almost like he read

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the Howard Marx piece that we were

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reviewing this morning in the live

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stream where he says that if the job

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market turns down, this is going to be a

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very unique downturn because it means

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that AI, the very thing that induces the

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downturn, might also prevent the

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recovery because usually when you have

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innovation like cars or radio or you

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have a recession, you create more jobs

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after the innovation or the downturn.

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But this innovationled

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potential downturn could actually eat

2:39

the very jobs that would cause and keep

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you in a depressionary state. And so

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he's basically telling the market, hey,

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listen guys, right now we think we're

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good, but we are ready to run this

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freaking money printer. We are so

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freaking ready. And this is broadly

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bullish. I think this is why markets are

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like, yes, we're going up. We broke

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right through 627 this morning in the

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alpha report. We gave it a 78% chance of

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a bullish outcome today. We were

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moderately bullish to very bullish. A

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dovish Powell in fairness was not on the

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bingo board. It was a possibility, but

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it literally wasn't on the bingo board.

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This is our bingo board. And if you look

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at the different segments that we didn't

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nail here, we didn't actually get talk

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about a stable jobs market because we

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actually got talk that the labor market

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has not stabilized and that they are

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trying to stabilize it and that it's

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actually growing negative. See, that's

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why I put a big orange check uh X right

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here cuz I wrote that Powell would tell

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us something like labor market break

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evens around 0 to 20K. Data suggests

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we're at break even. That's not what he

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said. He actually said we're likely

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below break evens right now, which is

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bullish, but we did get a hawkish

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summary of economic projections. So,

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this is kind of like a weird thing to

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reconcile, right? But if you look at the

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summary of economic projections, we got

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GDP growth that moved from uh a

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projection of 1.8% in September right

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here to 2.3. Now, Pal says some of that

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is because of the government shutdown.

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This should have been like 1.9 and 2.1,

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he says. But basically really writing up

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GDP that's technically bullish soft

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landing hawkish rate cuts right I guess

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2% on that mind you uh they kept

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unemployment at stable to down which is

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hawkish and the base case scenario is

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soft landing no recession in fact if you

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go over here to the range you can

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actually see they basically removed the

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negative potential for GDP you can see

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that the person who in September mber

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was betting that GDP would be as low as

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1.5%.

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Actually revised up to 2%. Which is

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actually really remarkable because it

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means that the consensus at everyone who

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put together all 19 members, not the

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voting 12, all 19 members of the Fed who

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put together this SCP, they're like,

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"Look, our base case is bullish, man.

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This economy bullish. We're we're ready

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to cut and print if we need to for job

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cuts, but we are we are potentially

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pausing right now. Drum Powell's first

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question, mind you, was, "Hey, are you

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basically saying pause?" And Powell's

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response is, "Um, yes." And then, of

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course, we'll be data dependent. Now, of

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course, we're getting data next week,

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which Jerome Powell was also asked

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about. But that's where things got weird

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because Jerome Powell basically looked

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at the data and said, "Don't think about

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it the way you're thinking about this."

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And this is weird because I'm like, you

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know, before this meeting, I wrote the

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following down. I wrote down this. See,

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uh, I wrote down that we've got a jobs

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report coming out December 16th. We've

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got it where we're expecting 50,000

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jobs, which according to the Fed would

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be -10,000. Okay? Because they're taking

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60 off of those. Then you got CPI on the

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18th. Then you've got jobs on the 9th

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again. And then you've got CPI again on

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the 13th. That's January.

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Now, what's crazy what Fed did is he

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literally put an asterisk on this.

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Jerome Powell said the the reports that

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we get in December for November, we're

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going to have to quote look at very

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closely because the way they collect the

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data during a government shutdown isn't

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good. In other words, you can't trust

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that data that you're getting. So, B

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Powell basically said, "Look, we're on

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hold. We can't trust the data that we're

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getting for November because of the

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government shutdown and the collection

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actions that failed because of the

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government shutdown the first two weeks

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of November and well first 12 days of

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November and obviously all of October,

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you know, longest shutdown in history.

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Uh and so he's kind of saying like we're

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just going to ignore that. We're going

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to go to January and we see we'll see

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what we get with the data releases that

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come in January. Now the next meeting is

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on my birthday, January 28th. Right now,

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markets are expecting about a 25% chance

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of a cut, which is the same spot where

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we were before all of this release. Now,

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again, how is that possible? Because we

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got this hawkish summary of economic

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projections. It was hawkish. The

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market's like, "Damn, we're on pause and

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we're hawking on the summary of economic

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projections. Odds of a rate cut in

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January, I was watching them dropped to

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like 12%."

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And as soon as Powell said, "Don't trust

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the data that's coming out, we are ready

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to print if we need to and the jobs

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market is moving below break even right

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now and this is going to be really bad

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if we go into a downturn." As soon as he

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said that, saying, "We've got the tools

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to support the labor market. We're not

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going to stand in the way of the labor

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market." Soon as he said that, the odds

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of a rate cut for January 28th went

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right back up to 25%. Watched it happen

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live. It was remarkable. So, we did get

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bingo, but we actually got bingo on

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things that are good for inflation,

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right? No evidence of concerning level

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of wage inflation. He referenced the

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ECI. Literally, what we wrote down is

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what he did. Inflation outside of

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tariffs coming down as expected. He said

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that we will see one-time overtime price

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increases due to tariffs. He said that

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no evidence inflation has spread to

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other services or becoming

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self-fulfilling. He said that inflation

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expectations are anchored. He said that,

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right? like all of those things that we

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anticipated in that column which are

8:23

good for the economy. Inflation coming

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down, great. But he gave us even more.

8:28

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company. He also gave us this blessing

8:46

that said, "Listen, if we need to cut,

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we're ready to and inflation's going to

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peak in January or well, I mean, he said

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Q1 in fairness. He thinks that inflation

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will peak in Q1 and that we'll be sort

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of on a downtrend from there in part

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because of the housing sector because

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housing rental inflation has basically

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zeroed out." Now, he did also talk about

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housing and he was asked, hey, like you

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know, you're lowering rates, it's going

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to be good for housing, right? And he's

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like, "No, the problem with housing is

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we don't have enough housing and that

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keeps housing prices elevated is

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essentially what he's saying." He says,

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"The problem is it's not something the

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Fed can control. You need to build more

9:23

housing to actually get prices to come

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down." This is one of the reasons I love

9:28

investing in housing in areas where they

9:30

don't build houses. That's why here's a

9:32

property. We literally during the Fed

9:34

presser, I got an email. We just closed

9:37

on this. Look at this nasty, hoarder,

9:41

gross, moldy, disgusting disaster.

9:44

Nobody wants to live in this. Nobody

9:46

should live in this. No human deserves

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to live in this filth. That's why we buy

9:51

it. We fix it up and we gain value by

9:54

doing that, right? We provide a good or

9:56

a service, a quality rental that

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somebody can rent from. And we make this

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beautiful. That's our job. That's the

10:01

basis of my real estate startup, right?

10:03

the real estate AI that we're doing is a

10:05

huge bonus that obviously could be a

10:07

massive game changer and is why I want a

10:08

soft landing. Like just to be fully

10:10

transparent, I would love nothing more

10:12

than a soft landing because if we can

10:14

soft land, it means we can IPO sooner.

10:17

But Jerome Powell is like, listen, the

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labor market is doing way worse. And

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this is the first time I've actually

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seen Jerome Pal go, not only is the

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labor market doing worse than we

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anticipate and expect, you know, with

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potentially being at 20,000. But we need

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to do everything to avoid a sharper

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downturn from employment happening.

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That's why we're at neutral rates. And

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if we need to move lower, we will. But

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for now, we're on pause. That's the

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easiest way to reconcile this. So, let

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me make sure I got everything covered

10:45

here because there's a lot ah tommo. We

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need to talk about tommo. Okay. A lot of

10:49

people are going to be really confused

10:50

by Tommo. Donald Trump, by the way,

10:52

right now saying the Fed rate cut should

10:53

have been double. We know that's what

10:54

Hasset said this morning. Hasset is

10:56

basically Donald Trump's shill. So, it's

10:58

not a surprise that Trump is saying it

10:59

should have been double. And this

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morning, Kevin Hassid is like, "Yeah,

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you know, a 3% GDP is a lowball. We

11:05

should uh we have an AI boom going on

11:06

with or 18 bill trillion, I'm sorry, in

11:09

new factories, and the Fed will need

11:11

more cuts. We actually support a 50

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basis point cut, although a small 25

11:15

basis point cut is in the right

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direction." That's what Hasset said this

11:18

morning. Not a surprise that Trump is

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reiterating it because Trump probably

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said it to Hasset. Hasset went on Fox

11:23

News and yapped it. Okay, that's how the

11:25

game is played. Okay, learn the rules of

11:26

the game and play the game. E eco 101

11:29

basically. Okay, now regarding uh tommo,

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a lot of people are going to get

11:34

confused by what tomo really even is. Uh

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and that's okay. I'm going to explain to

11:40

Tommo very clearly. So tommo is

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basically overnight lending. it. Think

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about it like injecting money into the

11:47

economy but then taking it right back

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out the next day. It's very short-term

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liquidity used to manipulate the

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overnight funding rate. That's it. It is

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not quantitative easing because the

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money doesn't actually ease into the

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market. Okay. A lot of people like you

12:04

know these people there are some people

12:06

that I won't name by name but that I

12:07

really don't have a lot of respect for

12:09

because they they never look at things

12:11

in a nuanced manner. They can only see

12:13

things that are beneficial to their own.

12:16

I'm not going to get into it anyway, but

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basically I heard somebody go, "Oh,

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well, you know, ending QT is basically

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the same as QE." It's like, no, it's

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not. Quantitative easing is the

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expansion of the money supply in a

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permanent manner by permanently running

12:33

the money printer to generate reserves

12:36

that show up at bank balance sheets and

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and at institutions that can then be

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lent out into the economy. That is

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long-term 5 10 20 30year Treasury bond

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funding stays in the economy for a

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while. That's what we got after co tomo

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or the temporary open market operations

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is just a fancy way of saying listen

12:58

we're ending QT and as a result of that

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we're going to be buying some short-term

13:02

treasury bills you know like one months

13:03

or sixmonths or whatever just to keep

13:06

liquidity moving but it is also bullish

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so both QE is bullish ending QT is

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bullish and Tommo is bullish why is it

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bullish not because you're expanding the

13:17

money supply but because you are

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reducing ing a risk of a private credit

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shock.

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So yes, bottom line, all three of those

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things are bullish, right? Ningqt, QE,

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which we're not getting right now,

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obviously also bullish, and Tomo all

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bullish. Why? Again, reducing shock

13:33

risk, which is important because the 102

13:35

Treasury yield right now is jumping to

13:37

61 pips. I honestly think that is

13:40

because the job market or the bond

13:42

market is looking going, "Oh crap. uh

13:45

the Federal Reserve might have to cut

13:47

rates even more in the short term to

13:50

prop up the labor market because drum

13:52

Powell is literally telling you don't

13:54

trust the data and you know while we're

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on pause now we're ready to print. Okay,

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that's tommo. What else? So, uh so far

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we've got disinflation continuing. We've

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got Tommo up to $40 billion in December

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and may remain elevated. That was more

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bullish than we anticipated. That was

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more printing overnight, which gets

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vacuumed up again, uh, than we

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anticipated, which is good. Uh, we also

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heard that the consumer keeps spending,

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but that's mostly in the upper income

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level. That's fine. My ski slope cup

14:26

right here. Going skiing next week.

14:30

Everyone agrees the labor market has

14:32

softened. The question is what's the

14:33

biggest risk? We have to be careful in

14:35

the assessment of the household data.

14:37

The data may be distorted. Data was not

14:39

correctly collected in October,

14:40

November. And in my opinion, this is

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basically very messy. He's saying,

14:44

"Don't trust the data." And then he

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says, "We need to be very skeptical of

14:48

this data coming out in the next data

14:50

set." Great. You did see three people at

14:54

the Fed committee project rates at 3.9,

14:57

which suggests a rate hike. Jerome Pal

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says a rate hike is not the base case

15:01

scenario at all right now. Uh

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unfortunately there's no evidence of a

15:05

sharper downturn in employment with

15:06

rates at neutral but we have very real

15:10

risks to pay attention to. Job creation

15:13

is negative and he says we need to watch

15:16

the situation very carefully. We do not

15:18

want to push down on job creation. We do

15:20

not want to push this labor market down.

15:23

That's huge. you know, then he got into

15:25

a little bit of like how great AI could

15:27

be from a personal productivity point of

15:29

view, but obviously remains to be seen

15:31

what it's going to do for the economy,

15:32

right, for actual like labor market. And

15:35

so this is where like this is broadly a

15:38

bullish reaction I think is is

15:40

appropriate here because what bottom

15:43

line if I had to put this all into one

15:45

line I would say the Federal Reserve

15:48

says the economy is soft landing and if

15:51

there's any hiccup that says the jobs

15:53

market's going to roll over they are

15:55

ready to run that money printer. Like

15:57

they've got a jet engine attached to the

15:59

money printer and they're like just say

16:00

the word baby just say the word cuz we

16:04

We [laughter] will run that printer. We

16:06

will run that printer faster than a Mach

16:08

2 jet engine from Boom. [laughter]

16:12

If you saw that news, you know the

16:14

turbines for AI now. It's crazy. Uh and

16:17

I get it. Like, you know, it's great.

16:19

There are cool things and we're just

16:20

really getting into the AI productivity

16:22

phase. I hate always bringing this up

16:24

because I feel like people think, you

16:25

know, I'm shilling this. It's not a

16:26

solicitation. You know, I should put the

16:28

not a solicitation banner up. Read the

16:29

disclosures. But like I I think the next

16:32

phase of AI is the actual productivity

16:35

stuff where when we release this

16:37

feature, you're going to be able to take

16:39

a picture of a home or your home or your

16:43

bathroom or your kitchen or your house

16:44

or whatever and we'll tell you if you

16:46

spend X dollars, your net worth could

16:49

move by Y. Like that formula function

16:52

for doing investments and for doing

16:54

renovations is a gamecher for real

16:56

estate AI. It's a game changer for

16:58

construction. It actually says if you

17:01

spend money on XYZ, it could make you

17:03

money. Like in my opinion, uh the AI

17:06

would come and say, "Hey, you know,

17:08

we're going to put together an estimate

17:10

of how much it costs to renovate this

17:11

for you all automatically with our

17:13

renovation AI." Uh and then we're going

17:16

to look at what this property is selling

17:18

for versus what we actually think it's

17:20

worth fixed up as a beautiful property.

17:22

You know, a property that's not

17:24

disgusting and a hoarder mess. And I

17:26

mean, look at this. This is terrible,

17:27

right? And like what does the AI say

17:31

that our net worth is going to increase

17:33

by remodeling these bathrooms or this

17:35

kitchen? You know, well, we believe the

17:37

answer is going to be a lot to the tune

17:39

of, you know,$1red to $120,000 or more.

17:42

I mean, who wants who wants to use this

17:43

kitchen or this bathroom, right? This is

17:45

disgusting. Look at this. Look at the

17:46

rust over here. But you know how much

17:48

that medicine cabinet costs us? 30

17:50

bucks, right? This is what we're trying

17:52

to teach with our real estate artificial

17:54

intelligence. Look how nasty that

17:57

this is why you don't have enough supply

17:59

because you know in Democratun states

18:02

where like this house for example is

18:03

they don't build new homes. So you rely

18:06

on people with the balls to go deal with

18:09

you know stocky botress or whatever the

18:11

hell this black mildew is. We don't like

18:14

to use the other M word and uh uh and

18:17

provide housing for people, right? It's

18:19

a lot to do. But anyway, that's, you

18:21

know, that's my bias is that we are

18:23

going to go into some form of productive

18:25

form of AI phase. But, you know, if

18:28

labor falls off a cliff, we got

18:29

problems. But the good news is Powell's

18:32

here to tell us it's all going to be

18:34

okay. Uh we're going to print. Now, is

18:37

this time really going to be different?

18:39

Is it all going to be okay? Well, I

18:41

guess we'll find out. Uh, all I know is,

18:43

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18:55

we'll see you in the next one. So, with

18:59

that,

19:00

thank you Jerome Powell for going

19:02

bullish today. It's exactly what we

19:05

wanted to hear. And [music]

19:06

cheers to everyone. I hope you make lots

19:09

of money out there. And I wish everyone

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the best. I'm going to want to make more

19:13

coffee now. See you.

19:14

>> Why not advertise these things that you

19:16

told us here? I feel like nobody else

19:17

knows about this. We'll we'll try a

19:19

little advertising and see how it goes.

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>> Congratulations, man. You have done so

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much. People love you. People look up to

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you.

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>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst

19:26

and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great

19:28

to get your [music] take.

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