HOLY F**K JEROME POWELL
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more open philosophically to doing
quantitative easing than you were
certainly when you're doing quantitative
tightening to the tune of of of you know
tens of billions of dollars of of per
month. So it looks like they're they're
focusing more on the employment
situation, less on the inflation
situation.
>> We got a cut from the Federal Reserve.
We got strong economy GDP and
unemployment guide in the summary of
economic projections. And we got a
really dovish Jerome Powell suggesting
that jobs could be plummeting to the
tune of 20,000 jobs per month because he
thinks the Bureau of Labor Statistics is
overstating the jobs report by 60,000
jobs per month, which is the reason that
they gave for cutting 25 basis points.
He says that the Fed voted on a vote of
three to nine. So three did not vote for
this 25 cut and nine did. We got Goulsby
and Schmid going for zero and Myron
wanting 50. So he wanted a bigger cut,
which is also what Hasset said earlier
that we should be pushing for a 50 cut.
But I want to get to the most
interesting stuff first, which is that
Powell told us that this jobs market is
the big concern and they will not let
policy stand in the way of the jobs
market stabilizing. They say that the
jobs market weakened more than they
expected which contributed to this cut.
And while they think that tariff effects
are basically going to expire in Q1, in
other words, peak out. So once as long
as we don't get any new tariff
announcements, we're going to peak out
on inflation in the first quarter and
then it's down on inflation from there
and we should be able to support the
jobs market. Now he says we're at
neutral now, which is a little bit
hawkish, right? Because it's like, wait,
so no more cuts? But he's also basically
telling you, hey, look, no more cuts,
but if if the job market actually keeps
weakening like this, we're going to keep
cutting and cutting and printing
basically. So, we got to break this
down. Makes it clear towards the end of
his press conference that the labor
market has significant downside risk.
And he kind of it's almost like he read
the Howard Marx piece that we were
reviewing this morning in the live
stream where he says that if the job
market turns down, this is going to be a
very unique downturn because it means
that AI, the very thing that induces the
downturn, might also prevent the
recovery because usually when you have
innovation like cars or radio or you
have a recession, you create more jobs
after the innovation or the downturn.
But this innovationled
potential downturn could actually eat
the very jobs that would cause and keep
you in a depressionary state. And so
he's basically telling the market, hey,
listen guys, right now we think we're
good, but we are ready to run this
freaking money printer. We are so
freaking ready. And this is broadly
bullish. I think this is why markets are
like, yes, we're going up. We broke
right through 627 this morning in the
alpha report. We gave it a 78% chance of
a bullish outcome today. We were
moderately bullish to very bullish. A
dovish Powell in fairness was not on the
bingo board. It was a possibility, but
it literally wasn't on the bingo board.
This is our bingo board. And if you look
at the different segments that we didn't
nail here, we didn't actually get talk
about a stable jobs market because we
actually got talk that the labor market
has not stabilized and that they are
trying to stabilize it and that it's
actually growing negative. See, that's
why I put a big orange check uh X right
here cuz I wrote that Powell would tell
us something like labor market break
evens around 0 to 20K. Data suggests
we're at break even. That's not what he
said. He actually said we're likely
below break evens right now, which is
bullish, but we did get a hawkish
summary of economic projections. So,
this is kind of like a weird thing to
reconcile, right? But if you look at the
summary of economic projections, we got
GDP growth that moved from uh a
projection of 1.8% in September right
here to 2.3. Now, Pal says some of that
is because of the government shutdown.
This should have been like 1.9 and 2.1,
he says. But basically really writing up
GDP that's technically bullish soft
landing hawkish rate cuts right I guess
2% on that mind you uh they kept
unemployment at stable to down which is
hawkish and the base case scenario is
soft landing no recession in fact if you
go over here to the range you can
actually see they basically removed the
negative potential for GDP you can see
that the person who in September mber
was betting that GDP would be as low as
1.5%.
Actually revised up to 2%. Which is
actually really remarkable because it
means that the consensus at everyone who
put together all 19 members, not the
voting 12, all 19 members of the Fed who
put together this SCP, they're like,
"Look, our base case is bullish, man.
This economy bullish. We're we're ready
to cut and print if we need to for job
cuts, but we are we are potentially
pausing right now. Drum Powell's first
question, mind you, was, "Hey, are you
basically saying pause?" And Powell's
response is, "Um, yes." And then, of
course, we'll be data dependent. Now, of
course, we're getting data next week,
which Jerome Powell was also asked
about. But that's where things got weird
because Jerome Powell basically looked
at the data and said, "Don't think about
it the way you're thinking about this."
And this is weird because I'm like, you
know, before this meeting, I wrote the
following down. I wrote down this. See,
uh, I wrote down that we've got a jobs
report coming out December 16th. We've
got it where we're expecting 50,000
jobs, which according to the Fed would
be -10,000. Okay? Because they're taking
60 off of those. Then you got CPI on the
18th. Then you've got jobs on the 9th
again. And then you've got CPI again on
the 13th. That's January.
Now, what's crazy what Fed did is he
literally put an asterisk on this.
Jerome Powell said the the reports that
we get in December for November, we're
going to have to quote look at very
closely because the way they collect the
data during a government shutdown isn't
good. In other words, you can't trust
that data that you're getting. So, B
Powell basically said, "Look, we're on
hold. We can't trust the data that we're
getting for November because of the
government shutdown and the collection
actions that failed because of the
government shutdown the first two weeks
of November and well first 12 days of
November and obviously all of October,
you know, longest shutdown in history.
Uh and so he's kind of saying like we're
just going to ignore that. We're going
to go to January and we see we'll see
what we get with the data releases that
come in January. Now the next meeting is
on my birthday, January 28th. Right now,
markets are expecting about a 25% chance
of a cut, which is the same spot where
we were before all of this release. Now,
again, how is that possible? Because we
got this hawkish summary of economic
projections. It was hawkish. The
market's like, "Damn, we're on pause and
we're hawking on the summary of economic
projections. Odds of a rate cut in
January, I was watching them dropped to
like 12%."
And as soon as Powell said, "Don't trust
the data that's coming out, we are ready
to print if we need to and the jobs
market is moving below break even right
now and this is going to be really bad
if we go into a downturn." As soon as he
said that, saying, "We've got the tools
to support the labor market. We're not
going to stand in the way of the labor
market." Soon as he said that, the odds
of a rate cut for January 28th went
right back up to 25%. Watched it happen
live. It was remarkable. So, we did get
bingo, but we actually got bingo on
things that are good for inflation,
right? No evidence of concerning level
of wage inflation. He referenced the
ECI. Literally, what we wrote down is
what he did. Inflation outside of
tariffs coming down as expected. He said
that we will see one-time overtime price
increases due to tariffs. He said that
no evidence inflation has spread to
other services or becoming
self-fulfilling. He said that inflation
expectations are anchored. He said that,
right? like all of those things that we
anticipated in that column which are
good for the economy. Inflation coming
down, great. But he gave us even more.
Not only did he give us the beautiful,
delicious Santaare reinvests coupon code
for the alpha membership at meetke.com
where we made our plan this morning and
released it every morning when the
markets open, but also our AI at
househack.com or reinvest.co, same
company. He also gave us this blessing
that said, "Listen, if we need to cut,
we're ready to and inflation's going to
peak in January or well, I mean, he said
Q1 in fairness. He thinks that inflation
will peak in Q1 and that we'll be sort
of on a downtrend from there in part
because of the housing sector because
housing rental inflation has basically
zeroed out." Now, he did also talk about
housing and he was asked, hey, like you
know, you're lowering rates, it's going
to be good for housing, right? And he's
like, "No, the problem with housing is
we don't have enough housing and that
keeps housing prices elevated is
essentially what he's saying." He says,
"The problem is it's not something the
Fed can control. You need to build more
housing to actually get prices to come
down." This is one of the reasons I love
investing in housing in areas where they
don't build houses. That's why here's a
property. We literally during the Fed
presser, I got an email. We just closed
on this. Look at this nasty, hoarder,
gross, moldy, disgusting disaster.
Nobody wants to live in this. Nobody
should live in this. No human deserves
to live in this filth. That's why we buy
it. We fix it up and we gain value by
doing that, right? We provide a good or
a service, a quality rental that
somebody can rent from. And we make this
beautiful. That's our job. That's the
basis of my real estate startup, right?
the real estate AI that we're doing is a
huge bonus that obviously could be a
massive game changer and is why I want a
soft landing. Like just to be fully
transparent, I would love nothing more
than a soft landing because if we can
soft land, it means we can IPO sooner.
But Jerome Powell is like, listen, the
labor market is doing way worse. And
this is the first time I've actually
seen Jerome Pal go, not only is the
labor market doing worse than we
anticipate and expect, you know, with
potentially being at 20,000. But we need
to do everything to avoid a sharper
downturn from employment happening.
That's why we're at neutral rates. And
if we need to move lower, we will. But
for now, we're on pause. That's the
easiest way to reconcile this. So, let
me make sure I got everything covered
here because there's a lot ah tommo. We
need to talk about tommo. Okay. A lot of
people are going to be really confused
by Tommo. Donald Trump, by the way,
right now saying the Fed rate cut should
have been double. We know that's what
Hasset said this morning. Hasset is
basically Donald Trump's shill. So, it's
not a surprise that Trump is saying it
should have been double. And this
morning, Kevin Hassid is like, "Yeah,
you know, a 3% GDP is a lowball. We
should uh we have an AI boom going on
with or 18 bill trillion, I'm sorry, in
new factories, and the Fed will need
more cuts. We actually support a 50
basis point cut, although a small 25
basis point cut is in the right
direction." That's what Hasset said this
morning. Not a surprise that Trump is
reiterating it because Trump probably
said it to Hasset. Hasset went on Fox
News and yapped it. Okay, that's how the
game is played. Okay, learn the rules of
the game and play the game. E eco 101
basically. Okay, now regarding uh tommo,
a lot of people are going to get
confused by what tomo really even is. Uh
and that's okay. I'm going to explain to
Tommo very clearly. So tommo is
basically overnight lending. it. Think
about it like injecting money into the
economy but then taking it right back
out the next day. It's very short-term
liquidity used to manipulate the
overnight funding rate. That's it. It is
not quantitative easing because the
money doesn't actually ease into the
market. Okay. A lot of people like you
know these people there are some people
that I won't name by name but that I
really don't have a lot of respect for
because they they never look at things
in a nuanced manner. They can only see
things that are beneficial to their own.
I'm not going to get into it anyway, but
basically I heard somebody go, "Oh,
well, you know, ending QT is basically
the same as QE." It's like, no, it's
not. Quantitative easing is the
expansion of the money supply in a
permanent manner by permanently running
the money printer to generate reserves
that show up at bank balance sheets and
and at institutions that can then be
lent out into the economy. That is
long-term 5 10 20 30year Treasury bond
funding stays in the economy for a
while. That's what we got after co tomo
or the temporary open market operations
is just a fancy way of saying listen
we're ending QT and as a result of that
we're going to be buying some short-term
treasury bills you know like one months
or sixmonths or whatever just to keep
liquidity moving but it is also bullish
so both QE is bullish ending QT is
bullish and Tommo is bullish why is it
bullish not because you're expanding the
money supply but because you are
reducing ing a risk of a private credit
shock.
So yes, bottom line, all three of those
things are bullish, right? Ningqt, QE,
which we're not getting right now,
obviously also bullish, and Tomo all
bullish. Why? Again, reducing shock
risk, which is important because the 102
Treasury yield right now is jumping to
61 pips. I honestly think that is
because the job market or the bond
market is looking going, "Oh crap. uh
the Federal Reserve might have to cut
rates even more in the short term to
prop up the labor market because drum
Powell is literally telling you don't
trust the data and you know while we're
on pause now we're ready to print. Okay,
that's tommo. What else? So, uh so far
we've got disinflation continuing. We've
got Tommo up to $40 billion in December
and may remain elevated. That was more
bullish than we anticipated. That was
more printing overnight, which gets
vacuumed up again, uh, than we
anticipated, which is good. Uh, we also
heard that the consumer keeps spending,
but that's mostly in the upper income
level. That's fine. My ski slope cup
right here. Going skiing next week.
Everyone agrees the labor market has
softened. The question is what's the
biggest risk? We have to be careful in
the assessment of the household data.
The data may be distorted. Data was not
correctly collected in October,
November. And in my opinion, this is
basically very messy. He's saying,
"Don't trust the data." And then he
says, "We need to be very skeptical of
this data coming out in the next data
set." Great. You did see three people at
the Fed committee project rates at 3.9,
which suggests a rate hike. Jerome Pal
says a rate hike is not the base case
scenario at all right now. Uh
unfortunately there's no evidence of a
sharper downturn in employment with
rates at neutral but we have very real
risks to pay attention to. Job creation
is negative and he says we need to watch
the situation very carefully. We do not
want to push down on job creation. We do
not want to push this labor market down.
That's huge. you know, then he got into
a little bit of like how great AI could
be from a personal productivity point of
view, but obviously remains to be seen
what it's going to do for the economy,
right, for actual like labor market. And
so this is where like this is broadly a
bullish reaction I think is is
appropriate here because what bottom
line if I had to put this all into one
line I would say the Federal Reserve
says the economy is soft landing and if
there's any hiccup that says the jobs
market's going to roll over they are
ready to run that money printer. Like
they've got a jet engine attached to the
money printer and they're like just say
the word baby just say the word cuz we
We [laughter] will run that printer. We
will run that printer faster than a Mach
2 jet engine from Boom. [laughter]
If you saw that news, you know the
turbines for AI now. It's crazy. Uh and
I get it. Like, you know, it's great.
There are cool things and we're just
really getting into the AI productivity
phase. I hate always bringing this up
because I feel like people think, you
know, I'm shilling this. It's not a
solicitation. You know, I should put the
not a solicitation banner up. Read the
disclosures. But like I I think the next
phase of AI is the actual productivity
stuff where when we release this
feature, you're going to be able to take
a picture of a home or your home or your
bathroom or your kitchen or your house
or whatever and we'll tell you if you
spend X dollars, your net worth could
move by Y. Like that formula function
for doing investments and for doing
renovations is a gamecher for real
estate AI. It's a game changer for
construction. It actually says if you
spend money on XYZ, it could make you
money. Like in my opinion, uh the AI
would come and say, "Hey, you know,
we're going to put together an estimate
of how much it costs to renovate this
for you all automatically with our
renovation AI." Uh and then we're going
to look at what this property is selling
for versus what we actually think it's
worth fixed up as a beautiful property.
You know, a property that's not
disgusting and a hoarder mess. And I
mean, look at this. This is terrible,
right? And like what does the AI say
that our net worth is going to increase
by remodeling these bathrooms or this
kitchen? You know, well, we believe the
answer is going to be a lot to the tune
of, you know,$1red to $120,000 or more.
I mean, who wants who wants to use this
kitchen or this bathroom, right? This is
disgusting. Look at this. Look at the
rust over here. But you know how much
that medicine cabinet costs us? 30
bucks, right? This is what we're trying
to teach with our real estate artificial
intelligence. Look how nasty that
this is why you don't have enough supply
because you know in Democratun states
where like this house for example is
they don't build new homes. So you rely
on people with the balls to go deal with
you know stocky botress or whatever the
hell this black mildew is. We don't like
to use the other M word and uh uh and
provide housing for people, right? It's
a lot to do. But anyway, that's, you
know, that's my bias is that we are
going to go into some form of productive
form of AI phase. But, you know, if
labor falls off a cliff, we got
problems. But the good news is Powell's
here to tell us it's all going to be
okay. Uh we're going to print. Now, is
this time really going to be different?
Is it all going to be okay? Well, I
guess we'll find out. Uh, all I know is,
uh, if you want to see the stocks I'm
buying, check out the alpha report. Get
it every single morning before the
market is open. Use that coupon code
Santa Reinvest at me.com or join a
reinvest AI at reinvest.co. And folks,
we'll see you in the next one. So, with
that,
thank you Jerome Powell for going
bullish today. It's exactly what we
wanted to hear. And [music]
cheers to everyone. I hope you make lots
of money out there. And I wish everyone
the best. I'm going to want to make more
coffee now. See you.
>> Why not advertise these things that you
told us here? I feel like nobody else
knows about this. We'll we'll try a
little advertising and see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you.
>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst
and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great
to get your [music] take.
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