B52 Bomber Near Miss is a Disgrace | Jet Pilot Loses It.

avoid a mid-air collision with a B-52

bomber. Let's bring in ABC's Mola Laney

at Dallasos International Airport

tonight.

>> This guy on a green screen. Anyway, uh

it looks that way. But anyway, keep in

mind aggressive maneuvers

could sometimes also just be like normal

flights. Like sometimes, you know,

you're climbing through an altitude and

you're at, you know, I don't know,

10,000 ft and you're climbing for 15 and

all of a sudden ATC is like actually

hold altitude and and you level off. You

know, people think like, oh, oh, cuz you

get that that weird feeling in your

tummy. It's like, oh, that's aggressive.

It's like, nah. So, I mean, let's listen

to it. I haven't listened to the details

of it.

>> Well, what are you learning about this

incident?

Well, Lindsay, as you said, an

incredibly scary moment in the air. The

pilot having to make what he described

as an aggressive maneuver in order to

avoid that midair.

>> All right. Well, I mean, the pilot

mentioned it, so I believe I'm more

inclined to believe that than than the

mainstream

>> collision. Now, as this Delta flight

approached its landing at Mayot, North

Dakota airport, a B-52 bomber

unexpectedly entered the flight path,

according to the pilot. Now, we should

note that May not is home to an air

force. One of the things that pisses me

off about a lot of the military aircraft

is that they don't necessarily have

transponders on. Uh like you could some

of them aren't even equipped with them.

Uh and even if they're equipped with

them, they don't necessarily always turn

them on, which I think is terrible

because I fly around Cam Rio, California

a lot because it's home base. We have a

lot of point traffic,

uh air traffic, you know, military

traffic, and I see him flying around all

the time without transponders. And I'm

like, "This is dangerous." Like, you're

not showing up as traffic for me. You're

invisible. So, the only way I could see

you is looking outside, which sounds

basic as a car driver, but flying a

plane, it's a lot harder, especially

during uh you know, the rapid events of

a takeoff or landing, which are the most

dangerous phases of flight. So, uh, this

is also likely a contributor to what,

uh, caused the Washington DC helicopter

versus airliner crash that killed so

many people. Uh, the lack of mandatory

transponder use, like equip these damn

planes with transponders. It it that

does piss me off.

>> Base uh, near the commercial airport,

but the pilot later telling his

passengers that he was never given any

sort of warning by air traffic

controllers

>> that Yeah. It's freaking invisible.

Although air traffic control can have uh

radars that uh that basically try to

pick up traffic and then send a signal

out of traffic that there's traffic

somewhere without relying on the plane

actually transponding its location uh

like transmitting its location. But I

just think it's shocking that in this

day and age you would have aircraft fly

uh like I you know without without

signaling their location. Like if you're

going into combat in Iran, are you going

to have your transponder on? No.

Obviously, I if I fly over Iran, I'm

turning my transponder off, too. It's

not that hard. I push one button and I

disappear. Uh but it's very, very

dangerous about the B-52's location.

Once on the ground, the pilot

apologizing to passengers about the

close call, essentially telling them,

"Nobody told us we had company up here,

and that quote, "This is not normal."

Now, there were no reported injuries,

fortunately. But, of course, we're only

6 months removed from that deadly midair

collision at Reagan National Airport.

>> That's the one he's talking about. Now,

I don't know if he's talking about I

mean, I think he's bringing this up

because it's military versus uh you

know, regional. Again, here's another

one that shows I think the clip that's

kind of going viral on it. I I mostly

think this is just another reiteration

that we need transponders on military

aircraft and that an aggressive maneuver

usually just isn't a big deal. like a

pilot, you know, imputing controls left,

right, or what? It's generally not a big

deal. But let let's let's see the actual

viral video.

>> Passengers aboard a Delta flight were

jarred when the pilot made an aggressive

maneuver to avoid a mid-air collision

with a beef.

>> Bro, are you not listening? Somebody in

the chat's like, "Transponder's bad for

the military. Allowing the enemy to know

where you are during war is a very bad

thing." Bro, that's literally what I

just said. If I'm flying over a rod, I'm

gonna have the trans obviously. You push

a button, you turn off. No

Sherlock.

But you're flying in America where we

have passenger planes flying around

landing. This is stupid. No military

plane should be flying around in

unrestricted American airspace with

their transponder off. Wake up, dude. 52

bomber. Here he is apologizing for the

sudden move.

>> Sorry about the aggressive maneuver. It

caught me by surprise. This is not not

normal at all. I don't know why they

didn't give us a heads up.

>> This happened on Friday on a flight out

of Minneapolis operated by Sky West. The

plane was on approach to May not North

Dakota, which is near an Air Force base.

The pilot told passengers he was cleared

to land by the tower and the Air Force

never gave any warning about the

bombers's presence. The Air Force has

not commented, but Sky West did release

a statement saying Sky West flight 3788

operating as Delta connection from

Minneapolis, Minnesota to Minot, North

Dakota landed safely in May not

>> and and again again aggressive maneuvers

like you could we could do aggressive

maneuvers on these aircraft. It's gen

like you want your pilot to move

aggressively. It's going to feel weird,

but I promise you, your pilot moving

aggressively is a good sign. You don't

want like weird funky sounds. The plane

moving is totally normal. I mean, here's

just an example of like a pusher stall,

for example. And just look at my my

horizon right here. I'm or I'm pulling

up about like what 10° here, I think.

You'll hear stall in just a moment.

You'll see my air speed move down here.

And so, we're at 6,800 ft right now. I

was trying to hold 6,900 for the lulls.

Uh but anyway, I'm pitching up rapidly

here and you'll see an aggressive

maneuver because we're, you know, this

this is going to break the horizon here.

>> We're about to get our stall warning.

>> Stall.

>> And then you'll see the pusher action, I

think, afterall.

>> In this case, four times cuz I didn't

pull back hard.

>> Stall. Stall.

>> This will fly forward.

>> Stall.

>> Come on.

>> Stall. Stall.

>> There it is.

>> There it is. And it pushes the plane

rapidly forward. I mean, we lose 20° of

of bank right here or not of bank, 20°

of pitch right here. Uh, and it's

aggressive. It you're going to feel

nauseous in the back if you go through

that, right? Like, it's a weird feeling,

but it's totally fine. Like, these

aircraft maneuver great. Uh, I actually

I love maneuvering these aircraft. Uh,

and and they're so powerful. Uh, these

these jet aircraft, you can do such

wonderful things. Even, you know, a

bulked landing. Uh you're coming into

land and you just uh you know break

through the clouds, whatever. You break

through the clouds here. Coming into

land. I'll show you a bulked landing if

you want. This is coming into Santa

Barbara. And it's basically right by the

captain's bars, 50 ft above. You know,

we're just going full power. Uh and

you're taking off again, which is also a

very weird and aggressive feeling for

passengers. Uh but like safe. So

generally maneuvers,

banking,

uh you know, even like stalls or

whatever these these maneuvers,

uh the aircraft are very very

maneuverable on purpose. Like they're

designed for this kind of stuff. Uh as

far as uh so as far as that, not worried

about that. But traffic, mid-air

collisions, very real problem. And the

fact that there are planes out there

that are invisible is ridiculous to me.

Mind you, also just so you know, like

what we see when we're flying, uh, you

know, yesterday, let me see if I can get

us a nice up close. Uh, so when we're

flying,

uh, this is, let's do and Betty

here. I've got a clip of and

Betty. And I want you to see what our

traffic can look like. So me when I fly,

excuse the cable right here. There are a

few ways you could see traffic. Most

people are going to just use this center

map right here for their traffic. But

what I actually use as well is this

traffic map on the left just because I

can at a glance or out of the corner of

my eye really rapidly see where traffic

is. When traffic gets within usually a

mile or a minute of us, they'll start

showing up as a yellow like a big yellow

icon. That's traffic. We'll start

getting uh oral callouts. Uh and then

you could even get resolution advisories

in the future as well. That is if

aircraft are so close that it looks like

there's a potentially a collision. Uh

you could get a a resolution advisory

which might be uh you know some form of

audible alarm and then climb or like

whoop whoop descend is kind of how it

goes or whoop whoop you whatever. Uh and

uh and it'll tell you like level off or

whatever. It tells you exactly how to

avoid uh colliding with another

aircraft. Uh and this doesn't work when

you're too low to the ground, which is

potentially one of the downsides of what

happened in the uh Reagan situation. But

if that helicopter did indeed have their

transponder off in the Reagan situation,

then at minimum, if they had it on, you

would have seen on them on the map. But

right now, if there's a military

aircraft here with their transponder

off, they're invisible to me. I don't

see it. Now, again, yeah, I could look

out, but it's not as good as having them

right here because I'm especially in in

uh you know, weather, I'm I'm paying

attention to my instruments.

So, uh very frustrating uh in my

opinion. I mean, we actually while we're

coming into land over here, I think this

was um a Gulf uh I think this is a golf

airspace. I can't remember correctly.

I'd have to look up for flight, but um

there was a glider landing and the

glider didn't have a transponder. Now,

at least the glider is position

reporting, right? Like, hey, you know,

I'm I'm final. I'm turning base to final

coming into the runway. Well, I can't

remember what runway it is, but uh at

least they're position reporting. In

this case, this sort of like B-52

example, they're saying, "Hey, we didn't

even hear anybody on the radio that they

they're in the area." This is another

big problem because you're supposed to

be communicating your location on the

advisory frequency for the area if this

is an untowered airport, but the

military is probably on their digital

military, you know, frequencies and

they're invisible. So, uh, why not

advertise these things that you told us

here? I feel like nobody else knows

about this.

>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and

see how it goes.

>> Congratulations, man. You have done so

much. People love you. People look up to

you.

>> Kevin Pra there, financial analyst. and

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