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well the Tesla earnings call is over and
here's everything you need to know about
it first pretty dang common for Tesla
stock to fall after earnings not always
but pretty common usually an event
happened stunt goes down all those
weenie baby speculators gotta you know
take their losses and heal their wounds
and go somewhere else but that's okay
because in my opinion the fact that
Tesla stock is only down five six-ish
percent after hours which the
expectation was a six and a half percent
move in either direction it's actually a
sign that it ain't that bad that is the
fact that it's holding up above the 170
hopefully closes above 175 on the 20th
or 20 days SpaceX rocket ship launch day
hopefully that'll be a good technically
strong Wide Open Door to start a nice
new rally no guarantees though maybe
that's just hopium but that's okay let's
now talk about the facts because the
fact is tomorrow we've got a huge
expiration of a coupon code but you
already know about that see 420 it's on
the screen anyway let's talk about what
we learned so first macro and margin
obviously macro remains uncertain while
we've reduced prices still got the
highest margin out of all vehicles out
there in fact Elon Musk pretty clearly
defines what it takes to even have
positive PP in this business that is
positive pricing power you got to have
autonomy and you got to have an electric
vehicle in fact Tesla could if they
wanted to sell vehicles for basically a
zero gross profit because they see the
lifetime value of selling these vehicles
and then getting FSD upgrades is
basically a 100 profit margin as a
phenomenal Trojan Horse to making an
insane amount of cash flow of course
since we're still on FSD beta and we're
still ramping Austin gega uh Berlin and
Giga Austin we've got some work to do
and as Elon says every time the FED
raises rates it ends up being an
effective price price increase for
vehicles now sure we got lower margins
than we were expecting we got 19.3
percent Wall Street was looking for just
over 21
21.2 percent just to be exact and so
yeah we missed here and just like I
warned we missed big on free cash flow
not so great but explains why we didn't
end up seeing that buyback everybody was
expecting or begging Tesla to do back in
December what matters now though is that
even though broadly pricing power
appears to be shrinking which it is
Tesla still got the biggest set of baby
in the entire automotive industry you
look at lucid and rivian they're the
ones that should really be nervous as
well as Ford and GM and actually in
aftermarket hours these stocks aren't
even moving that much to the downside I
expect the market to adjust for that
tomorrow we'll see what happens in other
words bad for lucid and rivian we'll see
but let's talk about this so pricey
elasticity Elon has says look ultimately
it comes down to can people make the
payment or not but they have to be
willing to pay for it and Tesla
basically has pricing power because we
have both the best autonomy 150 million
miles of AI training data nobody else
holds a candle to that and an electric
vehicle platform that cuts out the
dealership model and that in theory
doesn't really need servicing I rarely
get my Tesla Service service most people
who have a Tesla rarely take their cars
in for service and that's because
ultimately the original car model was
built on hey car dealerships will make
money on servicing for the customer but
the best service as Elon puts it in this
earnings call is no service phenomenal
brand differentiation and a game changer
for the entire Automotive space Berlin
and Tesla Berlin and uh Austin that is
both of these still seen as a quote
margin headwind until things stabilize
and Elon Musk believes that things will
start quote getting Sunny around spring
of 2024 and things will be a whole lot
better by the middle of 2024. part of
that has to do with some challenges from
still high commodity prices yes lithium
prices have come down 60 percent and
prices probably peaked somewhere around
Q2 2022 we're still dealing with
elevated costs and those elevated costs
unfortunately are still lagging whereas
prices for vehicles are falling faster
and so yeah that is a shrinking PP but
then again you're seeing that at pretty
much every business even Innovative
companies like apple and Nvidia
everybody's out in the cold right now
and pricing power is shrinking just a
matter of who's got the largest amount
of pricing powered left when it comes to
the automotive space nobody holds a
candle to Tesla now inflation on
inflation
Elon Musk expects a little bit more in
the staff expect a little bit more of an
improvement in Q2 but really most of the
Improvement will probably come by 2023
to 2024 which in my opinion is a signal
that really if you're an investor in
Tesla stock you shouldn't really be
caring about these day-to-day
fluctuations in the stock we tend to
have these 21 day rallies and then we
sell down then we have a 21 day rally
and then we sell down this is just the
nature of Tesla if you can't stand the
volatility get out it's really no
problem average selling price is down to
just about forty seven thousand dollars
which actually on my 2025 projection
some of them have been going with 45 000
Kathy Wood goes with 45 000 but I just
pulled up my 2025 numbers and I hate to
say it but I've actually been using 47
000 here and it doesn't look like we're
going to hit that 2 million vehicle
threshold in 2022 though in the earnings
call there was some hope that that is a
possibility though it's more likely
we're gonna hit a safe number like 1 0.8
maybe slightly beat that there was talk
about expanding into the lithium
refining in Corpus Christi Texas
breaking ground in May next month on
investor day we were told that Tesla had
already broken ground so this is a
little weird and we hear that the
delivery event for the Cyber truck is
expected to be in Q3 and that will
really get to mass production in 2024
that could be a pretty exciting time
Elon Musk calls the Cyber truck a hull
of Famer which is great and really if we
look at the numbers here 2025 even if we
drop this margin and margin makes a big
hitsy ditzy over here it sucks but let's
say we go back all the way down to an 80
cost structure and we just don't make it
to that 30 number in fact hate to say it
but they actually revised the 30 Target
down to mid 20s this cycle maybe 30
percent will come back in the future but
right now they're looking at mid-20s and
what will probably happen is they'll say
ah we'll get to 3 30s including FSD in
the future fine but if we go to a 10
take rate on FSD at full pop whether
it's financed at acquisition or paid for
in cash we go for a forty seven thousand
dollars per vehicle at 4 million
Vehicles because after all we do expect
average selling prices to continue to
fall especially since those Model S's
and X's are becoming a whole lot less
popular hate to say it but here are the
model S and X deliveries and
base plummeting now they plummeted in
early 2021 as well but then we were
going under uh line upgrades and so
they've been rising since those upgrades
but then again falling uh cash flow we
already saw missed widely lower than in
Q2 2022 that's when Shanghai was shut
down it's a big deal but anyway what do
we got over here so if we actually look
at the projections then we'll go through
some other things that were talked about
really nothing's changed here what does
change is probably we could bump the
expectations for revenue from energy
because the energy segment is honestly
booming much faster than probably most
of us had anticipated in fact in the
last energy present or in the last
earnings presentation from Tesla we saw
that energy storage specifically the
storage deployed segment Rose 58 quarter
over quarter that's not 50 a year
that's quarter that's really really
remarkable and when we actually look at
the margins for energy which we can do
by going to the financial statements we
can see those right here we got energy
generation and storage we're already
sitting at 15 29 million that's
1.529 billion dollars from energy I mean
I hate to say it but look at this I had
right here total revenue from energy 1.8
for 2025. this is taking off this is
remarkable now Services might be a
little elevated but Services we have at
super low margin here anyway yeah
Services I have at just five percent
margin so this doesn't make so much of a
difference but we might drive that down
let's kill this to five percent Drive
Services down to five percent Tesla did
say they took some additional warranty
adjustments and some one-time
adjustments in this first quarter which
hurt margin a little bit more maybe
we'll get a recovery in Q2 on that and
they didn't take as much of FSD right up
because Elon Musk calls it a two-step
forward one step back now that's fine
and hopefully that sets up for a better
Q2 but still hits the stock in the short
term but let's change this energy
segment here because if we have
compounded annual growth here of uh even
let's call it a double because we're
growing 50 and a quarter here let's go
energy generation and uh storage here
and let's go with a uh a double for the
uh for the year so if we go uh for the
quarter we're at one five times four
we're at about six Billy for the year
and let's double it and then double it
again let's get to about 24 billies by
uh 2025. let's see if that's a little
too extreme here let's go with that's
going to be closer to ten percent all
right let's go with 10 energy that's
18.8 Bill fare okay so we'll play with
18.8 Bill here we cut Services down now
margin on energy isn't fantastic right
now obviously we expect it to expand in
the future but right now we're looking
at at a energy storage sitting at
1837
1361 divided by
1837 uh sorry 15 29 1529 those surface
yeah we're about 11 margin I think I
have them at 10 here on energy oh no had
him too high so let's drop that to 89.
there we go making some adjustments here
together we'll do that together so we're
going to keep four mil 20 25 let's drop
the 47 to 45. so let's reconcile some of
the changes we've made here we've
changed Revenue per vehicle Down 2 000.
we left number of vehicles we reduced
Services by nine bill but we increased
energy by a lot we added about 16
billies to energy which should add about
1.6 ish to the bottom line at around a
10 11 margin right so really it it
shouldn't be adding too terribly much uh
given that our profit's gonna be around
35 mil so really the energy adjustment
there or 35 Bill the energy adjustment
there makes a difference of around four
and a half percent that we made so a
smaller adjustment bigger adjustment is
going to be on that vehicle margin and
let's see what we get over here so if we
still assume what do we got here a uh
growth here what do we have we have
we're going to go with not 15 growth
that's really a worst case scenario in
my opinion this would be horrible 15
growth on EPS this would be really bad
and that's why you could see 206 price
Target I mean you'd be growing at
today's share price you'd be growing
about 6.7 percent per year to get to
that but let's go with actually a 30
growth Target that's going to bump on a
PEG ratio 30 times 1.67 that'll bump us
to about a 417 price Target it's shy of
that 500 right so you're looking at 413.
you're still looking at a pretty nice
return though at a 30 growth on EPS I'm
not even I'm not going with 50 I'm not
going with 3 35 40 God just looking for
thirty percent growth here uh and
honestly in this sort of environment not
that bad that still brings us to 413
that's still a pretty damn good deal and
honestly if the market ran to to 400 by
2024 probably be uh you know something
where you scratch your head and go hmm
did I just price in the next two years
already right after cyber shark launches
and you get some real juicy juicies of
course if margin then Trends up as rates
come down watch this if we drop margin
to a 26 margin again what happens is
oops I went the wrong way sorry I
increased the cost for percentage points
let's bring that to uh 74 26 margin
let's go 25 margin brings it midpoint
right boom that brings us to 520. so
that shows you everything's in that
margin and if we bottom out somewhere
around uh you know 20 percent I mean
right now we're at 18.3 so hopefully
it's up from there right as margin costs
come down we start getting a little more
FSD hopefully that's the bottom if we
bottom out around 20 and we get these
numbers we're looking good for 400. uh
if we end up bottoming out around 15 uh
so that would be uh 85 cost structure
that's not going to be so great 85 cost
is going to shave another 100 bucks off
the stock so not great still good upside
but come on man we were at 306 like a
year ago right so we want to be better
off than that uh so this shows you how
important that margin is very very
important now Elon does expect margin to
expand by next year he does believe
storage will expand significantly Global
inventory however did rise from 13 days
to 15 days uh so and of course we had
that FSD or sorry a free cash flow Miss
uh still ramping on the 4680s Chargers
60 of them are open to only TVs without
extra waste times and there was a
fatality at the Giga Shanghai facility
leading local government there and an
investigation to uh demanding
essentially Tesla to be punished while
at the same time you've had uh now some
pain in terms of uh not just this
investigation but also workers getting
their bonuses cut in Shanghai so
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um
comes at the same time as Elon Musk says
Shanghai is the most profitable Factory
that exists potentially in the world so
I don't know uh to me when it comes to
Tesla it's gonna be a hurry up and wait
you're probably looking at a diamond
hand in this sucker for another year
before we're partying with Tesla tequila
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so much for being here really appreciate
you and cheers to 4pm coffee
or is it coffee
that depends
yeah it's coffee
hey who's gonna go skiing with me one
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