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well the Tesla earnings call is over and

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here's everything you need to know about

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it first pretty dang common for Tesla

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stock to fall after earnings not always

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but pretty common usually an event

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happened stunt goes down all those

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weenie baby speculators gotta you know

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take their losses and heal their wounds

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and go somewhere else but that's okay

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because in my opinion the fact that

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Tesla stock is only down five six-ish

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percent after hours which the

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expectation was a six and a half percent

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move in either direction it's actually a

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sign that it ain't that bad that is the

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fact that it's holding up above the 170

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hopefully closes above 175 on the 20th

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or 20 days SpaceX rocket ship launch day

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hopefully that'll be a good technically

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strong Wide Open Door to start a nice

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new rally no guarantees though maybe

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that's just hopium but that's okay let's

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now talk about the facts because the

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fact is tomorrow we've got a huge

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expiration of a coupon code but you

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already know about that see 420 it's on

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the screen anyway let's talk about what

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we learned so first macro and margin

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obviously macro remains uncertain while

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we've reduced prices still got the

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highest margin out of all vehicles out

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there in fact Elon Musk pretty clearly

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defines what it takes to even have

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positive PP in this business that is

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positive pricing power you got to have

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autonomy and you got to have an electric

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vehicle in fact Tesla could if they

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wanted to sell vehicles for basically a

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zero gross profit because they see the

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lifetime value of selling these vehicles

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and then getting FSD upgrades is

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basically a 100 profit margin as a

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phenomenal Trojan Horse to making an

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insane amount of cash flow of course

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since we're still on FSD beta and we're

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still ramping Austin gega uh Berlin and

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Giga Austin we've got some work to do

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and as Elon says every time the FED

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raises rates it ends up being an

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effective price price increase for

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vehicles now sure we got lower margins

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than we were expecting we got 19.3

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percent Wall Street was looking for just

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over 21

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21.2 percent just to be exact and so

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yeah we missed here and just like I

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warned we missed big on free cash flow

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not so great but explains why we didn't

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end up seeing that buyback everybody was

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expecting or begging Tesla to do back in

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December what matters now though is that

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even though broadly pricing power

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appears to be shrinking which it is

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Tesla still got the biggest set of baby

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in the entire automotive industry you

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look at lucid and rivian they're the

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ones that should really be nervous as

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well as Ford and GM and actually in

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aftermarket hours these stocks aren't

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even moving that much to the downside I

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expect the market to adjust for that

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tomorrow we'll see what happens in other

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words bad for lucid and rivian we'll see

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but let's talk about this so pricey

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elasticity Elon has says look ultimately

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it comes down to can people make the

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payment or not but they have to be

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willing to pay for it and Tesla

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basically has pricing power because we

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have both the best autonomy 150 million

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miles of AI training data nobody else

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holds a candle to that and an electric

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vehicle platform that cuts out the

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dealership model and that in theory

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doesn't really need servicing I rarely

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get my Tesla Service service most people

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who have a Tesla rarely take their cars

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in for service and that's because

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ultimately the original car model was

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built on hey car dealerships will make

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money on servicing for the customer but

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the best service as Elon puts it in this

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earnings call is no service phenomenal

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brand differentiation and a game changer

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for the entire Automotive space Berlin

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and Tesla Berlin and uh Austin that is

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both of these still seen as a quote

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margin headwind until things stabilize

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and Elon Musk believes that things will

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start quote getting Sunny around spring

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of 2024 and things will be a whole lot

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better by the middle of 2024. part of

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that has to do with some challenges from

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still high commodity prices yes lithium

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prices have come down 60 percent and

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prices probably peaked somewhere around

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Q2 2022 we're still dealing with

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elevated costs and those elevated costs

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unfortunately are still lagging whereas

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prices for vehicles are falling faster

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and so yeah that is a shrinking PP but

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then again you're seeing that at pretty

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much every business even Innovative

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companies like apple and Nvidia

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everybody's out in the cold right now

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and pricing power is shrinking just a

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matter of who's got the largest amount

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of pricing powered left when it comes to

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the automotive space nobody holds a

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candle to Tesla now inflation on

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inflation

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Elon Musk expects a little bit more in

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the staff expect a little bit more of an

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improvement in Q2 but really most of the

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Improvement will probably come by 2023

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to 2024 which in my opinion is a signal

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that really if you're an investor in

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Tesla stock you shouldn't really be

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caring about these day-to-day

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fluctuations in the stock we tend to

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have these 21 day rallies and then we

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sell down then we have a 21 day rally

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and then we sell down this is just the

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nature of Tesla if you can't stand the

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volatility get out it's really no

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problem average selling price is down to

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just about forty seven thousand dollars

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which actually on my 2025 projection

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some of them have been going with 45 000

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Kathy Wood goes with 45 000 but I just

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pulled up my 2025 numbers and I hate to

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say it but I've actually been using 47

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000 here and it doesn't look like we're

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going to hit that 2 million vehicle

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threshold in 2022 though in the earnings

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call there was some hope that that is a

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possibility though it's more likely

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we're gonna hit a safe number like 1 0.8

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maybe slightly beat that there was talk

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about expanding into the lithium

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refining in Corpus Christi Texas

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breaking ground in May next month on

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investor day we were told that Tesla had

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already broken ground so this is a

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little weird and we hear that the

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delivery event for the Cyber truck is

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expected to be in Q3 and that will

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really get to mass production in 2024

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that could be a pretty exciting time

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Elon Musk calls the Cyber truck a hull

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of Famer which is great and really if we

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look at the numbers here 2025 even if we

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drop this margin and margin makes a big

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hitsy ditzy over here it sucks but let's

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say we go back all the way down to an 80

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cost structure and we just don't make it

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to that 30 number in fact hate to say it

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but they actually revised the 30 Target

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down to mid 20s this cycle maybe 30

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percent will come back in the future but

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right now they're looking at mid-20s and

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what will probably happen is they'll say

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ah we'll get to 3 30s including FSD in

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the future fine but if we go to a 10

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take rate on FSD at full pop whether

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it's financed at acquisition or paid for

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in cash we go for a forty seven thousand

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dollars per vehicle at 4 million

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Vehicles because after all we do expect

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average selling prices to continue to

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fall especially since those Model S's

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and X's are becoming a whole lot less

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popular hate to say it but here are the

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model S and X deliveries and

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base plummeting now they plummeted in

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early 2021 as well but then we were

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going under uh line upgrades and so

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they've been rising since those upgrades

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but then again falling uh cash flow we

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already saw missed widely lower than in

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Q2 2022 that's when Shanghai was shut

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down it's a big deal but anyway what do

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we got over here so if we actually look

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at the projections then we'll go through

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some other things that were talked about

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really nothing's changed here what does

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change is probably we could bump the

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expectations for revenue from energy

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because the energy segment is honestly

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booming much faster than probably most

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of us had anticipated in fact in the

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last energy present or in the last

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earnings presentation from Tesla we saw

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that energy storage specifically the

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storage deployed segment Rose 58 quarter

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over quarter that's not 50 a year

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that's quarter that's really really

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remarkable and when we actually look at

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the margins for energy which we can do

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by going to the financial statements we

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can see those right here we got energy

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generation and storage we're already

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sitting at 15 29 million that's

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1.529 billion dollars from energy I mean

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I hate to say it but look at this I had

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right here total revenue from energy 1.8

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for 2025. this is taking off this is

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remarkable now Services might be a

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little elevated but Services we have at

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super low margin here anyway yeah

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Services I have at just five percent

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margin so this doesn't make so much of a

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difference but we might drive that down

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let's kill this to five percent Drive

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Services down to five percent Tesla did

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say they took some additional warranty

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adjustments and some one-time

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adjustments in this first quarter which

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hurt margin a little bit more maybe

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we'll get a recovery in Q2 on that and

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they didn't take as much of FSD right up

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because Elon Musk calls it a two-step

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forward one step back now that's fine

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and hopefully that sets up for a better

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Q2 but still hits the stock in the short

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term but let's change this energy

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segment here because if we have

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compounded annual growth here of uh even

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let's call it a double because we're

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growing 50 and a quarter here let's go

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energy generation and uh storage here

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and let's go with a uh a double for the

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uh for the year so if we go uh for the

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quarter we're at one five times four

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we're at about six Billy for the year

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and let's double it and then double it

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again let's get to about 24 billies by

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uh 2025. let's see if that's a little

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too extreme here let's go with that's

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going to be closer to ten percent all

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right let's go with 10 energy that's

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18.8 Bill fare okay so we'll play with

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18.8 Bill here we cut Services down now

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margin on energy isn't fantastic right

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now obviously we expect it to expand in

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the future but right now we're looking

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at at a energy storage sitting at

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1837

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1361 divided by

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1837 uh sorry 15 29 1529 those surface

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yeah we're about 11 margin I think I

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have them at 10 here on energy oh no had

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him too high so let's drop that to 89.

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there we go making some adjustments here

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together we'll do that together so we're

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going to keep four mil 20 25 let's drop

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the 47 to 45. so let's reconcile some of

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the changes we've made here we've

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changed Revenue per vehicle Down 2 000.

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we left number of vehicles we reduced

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Services by nine bill but we increased

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energy by a lot we added about 16

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billies to energy which should add about

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1.6 ish to the bottom line at around a

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10 11 margin right so really it it

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shouldn't be adding too terribly much uh

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given that our profit's gonna be around

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35 mil so really the energy adjustment

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there or 35 Bill the energy adjustment

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there makes a difference of around four

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and a half percent that we made so a

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smaller adjustment bigger adjustment is

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going to be on that vehicle margin and

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let's see what we get over here so if we

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still assume what do we got here a uh

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growth here what do we have we have

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we're going to go with not 15 growth

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that's really a worst case scenario in

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my opinion this would be horrible 15

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growth on EPS this would be really bad

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and that's why you could see 206 price

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Target I mean you'd be growing at

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today's share price you'd be growing

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about 6.7 percent per year to get to

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that but let's go with actually a 30

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growth Target that's going to bump on a

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PEG ratio 30 times 1.67 that'll bump us

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to about a 417 price Target it's shy of

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that 500 right so you're looking at 413.

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you're still looking at a pretty nice

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return though at a 30 growth on EPS I'm

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not even I'm not going with 50 I'm not

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going with 3 35 40 God just looking for

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thirty percent growth here uh and

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honestly in this sort of environment not

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that bad that still brings us to 413

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that's still a pretty damn good deal and

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honestly if the market ran to to 400 by

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2024 probably be uh you know something

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where you scratch your head and go hmm

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did I just price in the next two years

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already right after cyber shark launches

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and you get some real juicy juicies of

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course if margin then Trends up as rates

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come down watch this if we drop margin

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to a 26 margin again what happens is

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oops I went the wrong way sorry I

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increased the cost for percentage points

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let's bring that to uh 74 26 margin

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let's go 25 margin brings it midpoint

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right boom that brings us to 520. so

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that shows you everything's in that

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margin and if we bottom out somewhere

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around uh you know 20 percent I mean

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right now we're at 18.3 so hopefully

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it's up from there right as margin costs

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come down we start getting a little more

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FSD hopefully that's the bottom if we

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bottom out around 20 and we get these

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numbers we're looking good for 400. uh

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if we end up bottoming out around 15 uh

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so that would be uh 85 cost structure

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that's not going to be so great 85 cost

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is going to shave another 100 bucks off

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the stock so not great still good upside

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but come on man we were at 306 like a

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year ago right so we want to be better

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off than that uh so this shows you how

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important that margin is very very

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important now Elon does expect margin to

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expand by next year he does believe

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storage will expand significantly Global

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inventory however did rise from 13 days

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to 15 days uh so and of course we had

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that FSD or sorry a free cash flow Miss

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uh still ramping on the 4680s Chargers

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60 of them are open to only TVs without

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extra waste times and there was a

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fatality at the Giga Shanghai facility

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leading local government there and an

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investigation to uh demanding

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essentially Tesla to be punished while

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at the same time you've had uh now some

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pain in terms of uh not just this

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investigation but also workers getting

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their bonuses cut in Shanghai so

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um

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comes at the same time as Elon Musk says

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Shanghai is the most profitable Factory

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that exists potentially in the world so

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I don't know uh to me when it comes to

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Tesla it's gonna be a hurry up and wait

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you're probably looking at a diamond

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hand in this sucker for another year

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