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Kathy Woods thinks we could be heading
back to the Roaring 20s as inflation
potentially goes to negative 15 let's
talk about the latest update and add my
commentary so Kathy would suggests that
if inflation is unwinding as we believe
we could be heading back towards the
future The Roaring 20s just like we did
in the 1920s now this is a belief that
I've held as well that if we can
actually prove that inflation is indeed
transitory we could have a phenomenal
era of stock market booms going forward
for the rest of the decade really as
companies have laid off their their
slush or their fat so to speak and
maximize their profitability and their
margins while amplifying their ability
for technology and green technology to
really take over which in the future not
only it costs more in an inflationary
way but leads to substantially more
profits or four companies so Kathy Woods
goes on to say that the last time
several General Technologies evolved at
the same time the telephone electricity
and the internal combustion engine we
were in the 1920s and prior to the
Roaring at 20s then the world was at War
World War one and suffering a pandemic
the Spanish flu while both of those had
a much more serious impact on the global
economy than what we're seeing today in
other words covid and Russia Today
aren't impacting the economy as much as
the Spanish flu and World War One did
today's combination is a strong Echo
that could result in much lower than
expected inflation and a boom in
Innovation says Kathy Wood during World
War One and the Spanish Flu a supply
chain and other shocks pushed inflation
to 20 percent at its worst in June of
1920 inflation peaked at 24 but then
dropped precipitously in just one year
to negative 15 percent in June of 19 20
21. now that's remarkable because if in
one year we end up going into negative
inflationary reads negative CPI rates
which is possible if we actually see
owner's equivalent runs Trend down then
we're actually seeing prices across the
board go down which we are seeing that
in some sectors already Freight is
trending right towards levels that we
saw before the pandemic and it's
entirely possible we could actually go
negative it's possible that we could go
negative on things like chips as well
certainly PC demand down 19 the
exception of Apple they're still pulling
off uh Positive Growth year over year
but anyway founded in 1913 and
challenged by the first bout of serious
inflation kind of weird to think that
the Fed was founded in 1913. the FED
raised interest rates less than two-fold
from 4.6 percent to seven percent
between 1919 and 1920 to fight that
higher inflation faced with much lower
inflation this time around right peaks
of around eight to nine percent the FED
has increased interest rates 16 fold now
I personally think it's a little extreme
to suggest that inflation has been
raised 16-fold mostly because what she's
doing is she's comparing okay well rates
were 0.25 and now rates are nearly you
know knocking on the door of four
percent oh there we go nearly uh nearly
a a 20x increase in the exact math 16
fold I personally think this is just a
comparison of a small number growing to
a larger number and then a relatively
already large number doubling so I don't
necessarily think that's that's
something to be so impressed by uh but
anyway she she does really what she's
trying to convey is the difference in
rate the shock to the economy right is
it possible that the shock we're
experiencing today could be
substantially greater than than what
we've been used to in the past and yeah
that is a possibility in fact Susan
Collins she's the president of the
Boston fed she came out today and said
that I think that as quote as we have
raised rates that the risk of over
tightening has increased that's what uh
Susan Collins just mentioned and she
says that there is though a risk that
inflation expectations become entrenched
and that ends up becoming a problem so
uh ultimately if uh the FED okay so this
is interesting because it talks about
the transition here of uh inflation and
the FED but I gotta check in here hey
what's up man we checked in last night
we're back
we're Kevin and Lauren good to see you
again okay get them on video he wants to
be on YouTube show him Sean no it
doesn't always I appreciate it man have
a good night all right
thank you
uh all right so uh if inflation drops
below the fed's two percent Target and
economic activity disappoints then
interest rates are likely to surprise on
the low side of expectations next year
ushering in this Century's rendition of
the Roaring Twenties now this is a
really interesting argument because
she's essentially suggesting that hey
next year if we go negative the way we
did between 1920 and 1921 and we do that
this time from 2022 to 2023 we can
actually see a Fed that essentially has
to print money and Usher in as she says
the Roaring 20s of the 2020s and Jerome
Powell has alluded to this before he
suggested that look you know we can over
tighten if we need to because we don't
want inflation to become unentrenched
that is as soon as expectations break
and expectations rise which fortunately
right now they're starting to plummet
not the consumer expectations though but
remember the consumer bases their
expectations based on the last CPI
report so I think that measure is kind
of rigged the important one that I like
is the bond Market's expectation of
inflation what have we seen without one
hey Lauren would you mind take in this
in my bag right there what have we seen
with that one we've actually seen it
decline substantially hey thanks so much
hey have a good night
yes thank you
yeah great conversation five stars hey
thanks
so uh you know inflation expectations
measured by the bond market I think are
much more reliable than the Consumer
expectations of inflation which you see
through the Michigan surveys Lauren
would you mind holding this again
perfect so and then I'll take the phone
back there we go I'll take this back so
uh that's really important to pay
attention to now uh is it possible that
the FED oh yeah what did Jerome Powell
suggest well Jerome Powell suggested
look the risk of over tightening is is
that all we have to do is turn the money
printer back on but if we under tighten
inflation could become unentrenched and
then we have bigger problems right that
would be crazy so anyway now Kathy Wood
goes on to say as inflation dropped to
negative 15 in June of 2021 the FED
lowered interest rates from seven
percent in May of 21 to 4 of July of
2021 almost to having tripping the
switch for the Roaring Twenties from
August of 1921 to September of 1929 the
Dow Jones Industrial compounded at an
average annual rate of 25 think about
that 25 on the Dow crazy anyway Kathy
says If the Fed does not pivot the setup
will be more like
1929. oh this is where she's giving it
contrast right there's this bullish
potential of the FED realizing as Susan
College Collins has said oh there's
actually a risk of over tightening here
maybe maybe we could overdo it which
would be a problem and if we overdo it
well then we have problems we need to
turn the money printer back on but if
the FED doesn't pivot because inflation
may be in December mark your calendar
for December 10th I'm sorry December
13th the FED meeting is on December 15th
the last inflation report was on the
10th of November anyway if the FED does
not pivot she says the setup will be
more like 1920. now line the FED raised
rates in 1929 to squelch Financial
speculation that sounds a lot like
the.com era and the crypto error oh did
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anyway
the FED raised rates in 1929 to squelch
Financial speculation dude we have so
little left over speculation I feel like
now if speculation has been crushed
anyway in 1930 Congress passed the Smoot
Holly uh act putting 50 plus tariffs on
more than 20 000 goods and pushing the
global economy into a Great Depression
ooh bad contrast and we have seen some
more tariffs from the Biden
Administration on things like Chinese
Chips although you're already seeing
companies like Nvidia announce oh don't
worry we have China compliant chips that
we're going to be selling which is
really important because 25 of nvidia's
Revenue comes from China kind of wild
anyway Unfortunately today uh has some
Echoes of the same she says the FED is
ignoring deflationary signals and the
chips act that's the one I just talked
about with the Biden Administration
could harm trade I think that's extreme
to suggest that just the chip sack today
would be anything like uh the 20
000 item 50 Tariff of the 1929 so I
think that's a little extreme and I will
say I don't actually think the FED is
ignoring deflationary forces I think
they're just waiting for the lagged
numbers to catch up which does mean
they're responding to things with the
delay they responded to substantial
inflation with a delay calling a
transitory for too long and they respond
and now I feel like they're over
responding waiting for that owner's
equivalent rent to actually drag
inflation down remember CPI minus
shelter inflation is actually negative
one percent so everything in CPI
inflation minus shelter inflation
negative one percent it's remarkable so
I don't know that they're ignoring it I
think they're aware of it I think they
just really want to confirm okay yeah we
definitely are on a downtrend you know
as Barkin mentioned last week he thinks
we're on the back half of the inflation
curve coming down so I think they're
well aware I don't think they're
ignoring but uh then again you know
Kathy uh is also having to come out to
justify the performance of of the arc
fund uh and and uh this is an easy
scapegoat you just always blame the FED
don't me wrong I like Kathy I highly
respect Kathy
but I think the FED is probably going to
U-turn in 2023 I think she's right about
that do I think she's also right in
suggesting we're going to have a roaring
20s yes probably do I think inflation is
going to go negative 15 probably not but
even if prices just go flat inflation
goes away which is great so um hey what
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