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Buying Tylenol Stock.

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Should you buy Tylenol stock after

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Donald Trump encouraged labels on

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Tylenol encouraging pregnant women not

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to take the drug to flee from Tylenol

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because of a possible association

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between autism in children and the use

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of acetaminophen the primary ingredient

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in Tylenol. Now Tylenol was spun off

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from Johnson and Johnson is now run or

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owned and manufactured by a company

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called Kenvue. We're going to talk about

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Ken Vue and Ken View stock. It spun off

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in 2023.

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Uh and they are down 33%

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all time. Uh and as soon as Trump got

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into office, uh we could see the stock

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is down from about the election over

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here. Stock's down about 22% since Trump

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got in office. Uh and then just in about

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the last month, we're down about 11 or

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17% uh with uh with with some uh even 3%

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in the last five days here of down here.

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You can see that Trump announcement hit

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although we are rebounding a little bit

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today. So what is this stock? Should you

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buy this stock? First thing a lot of

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people pay attention to is they do pay

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out dividends. They got a 4.7%

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dividend, which sounds great to get a

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nice nearly 4.7 or nearly 5% yield on

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your money, but the company lost 17%

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this year in stock value. So, are you

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really winning? You're still net down 12

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or 13%. So, the question has to do with

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the company's, in my opinion, valuation

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and the actual reality around Tylenol.

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Look, here's the thing. Bottom line,

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Tylenol uh has been associated with

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use over time reducing certain

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antioxidant that could protect the brain

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from antioxidative stress. This is uh

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glutathione depletion is what people

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refer to. However, in normal doses, you

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usually don't see a link here. But if

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you use it regularly, people are saying

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ah there is a mechanism where you could

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actually cause stress to the brain of

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maybe the mother or the child. And this

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is where people are linking Tylenol to

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autism. Now when we actually look at

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results,

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Harvard reviewed 46 studies about this

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and found 27 of the studies found a link

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between acettophen and autism. Nine

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found no link and four found that

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acetammenophen use actually helped

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prevent autism. Okay. Now the problem

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with this is a link between acetamophen

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and autism does not mean that the

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acetaminophen caused autism. See a link

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means they occurred at the same time. In

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fact, there was a study that reviewed uh

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a few million patients uh between 1995

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to 2019 and found that of those 1.4% 4%

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of children who had autism did have

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acetaminophen taken by their mother

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during pregnancy compared to excuse me

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an incident rate of 1.33% autism for

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those without acetaminophen suggesting

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yeah there was a little bit of an

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increase in the amount of autism in uh

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children or in pregnancies where

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acetammenophen or talenol was taken. Now

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this is where it's really important to

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understand the difference between a link

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and a causal relationship. So a link

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means two things happen at the same

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time. Like for example, everyone who got

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shot with a 90% of people who get shot

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with a gun bleed.

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Okay? So the like bleeding and gunshot

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wounds tend to go hand in hand. Now in

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this case we could make the argument

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that the gunshot wound caused the

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bleeding but when it comes to

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acetamophen we can't say that

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acetaminophen caused the autism and

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that's because there could be other

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things that caused the acetaminophen. So

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for example let's say you you shoot a

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gun a lot in your life and then you have

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lead poisoning. Okay. Well maybe you ate

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lead paint when you were a child. uh and

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it doesn't have to do with you going to

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the shooting range a lot. Right? So

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that's where it's unclear that just

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because they both happened at the same

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time, one caused the other. So point of

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this is people who take acetamophen

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usually take it because they have a

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problem. They have pain, they have a

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fever, they've got, you know, something

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that they're trying to solve. Remember,

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usually we use ibuprofen as an

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anti-inflammatory. And acetaminophen

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works more on the brain. It more blocks

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your pain receptors than reducing

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inflammation. That's why you generally

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see a difference between ibuprofen and

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acetamophen. And it's also why people

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say if you have a lot of pain, you could

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actually double up. I'm not a doctor.

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Talk to your doctor. But you could

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double up acetto and ibuprofen because

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they're acting in different ways on your

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body to help reduce pain. It's an

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interesting argument. That's it. Acetto

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medicine made by this company uh is is

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not conclusively associated with autism.

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But the make America healthy movement

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and sort of the antivax community are

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jumping on this oxidative stress

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linkage. Uh and then the fact that the

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there is a higher incidence of children

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who had autism where their mothers were

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taking acettophen. Again that 1995 to

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2019 study where people like aha it's

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hyalonol that's bad. And other people

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are like, "No, it could be because they

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were sick and that's what led to the

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people don't really know." But the point

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is, do you buy the dip on the stock?

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Okay, so here's the actual company. So

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the financials of the company because,

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you know, this is the same thing we do

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in the course member live streams pretty

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regularly. We love doing fundamental

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analysis because uh well, as you've

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heard CNBC say,

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>> Kevin is much more interested than most

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people, by the way, in the balance

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sheet. We we love the balance sheets. We

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love looking at assets.

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Take a look at this. We've got about um

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$33

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billion in cash and receivables. We have

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current liabilities or bills to pay of

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$5.9 billion. That means we have $2 of

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bills to pay for every dollar of assets

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we have. That's not great. We have $3

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billion of more bills to pay than we

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have money for. Our cash flow is about

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$800 million. And this $800 million is

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in 6 months. So in fairness, it would

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take about $1.9 years to catch up just

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using free cash flow to pay their

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current debts that they have in current

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liabilities. On top of that, they've got

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another $7 billion in debts, which would

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take somewhere around eight years to pay

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off. The thing is they're not really

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worried about repaying just their debts.

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Although they are see repayment of

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senior notes, they paid off 750 mil, but

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they don't really care about that

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because they just turned around and

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borrowed basically the same amount

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again. And the reason they're borrowing

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is to make sure that you can get your

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delicious dividend payment. So they're

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basically borrowing money to pay

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dividends. So they're kind of, in my

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opinion, cing out the business. Like I

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don't think this is great financial

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management that is paying dividends

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while you don't even have enough money

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to pay your bills. Me as somebody that

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does analysis on a daily basis on

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companies, I don't personally like

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seeing that. Uh it's something that's a

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red flag to me when we do our course

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member uh analysis and our alpha reports

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in the mornings. We do that every day

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before the market opens up. You can get

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that over at me.com. So what you see

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here is that this company has a gross

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profit of 59% net income of 10.9%. That

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means for every 10 bucks they they sell

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you stuff for they make about a buck

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roughly. Okay. Now this comes from the

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annual report. So I wrote some notes

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here. Okay. Uh and when you go to the

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annual report you'll see that Tylenol

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sits in a category that makes up about

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39% of the business. However, that

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category includes Benadryil, Zerek,

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Motrin, Nicaret, and Rhinocort along

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with some other junk. So realistically,

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you've only got 12.9% of earnings per

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share. Maybe if Tylenol represents a

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third of self-care that that comes from

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Tylenol. So maybe out of every dollar

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they make, 12 cents comes from Tylenol.

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On top of that, only half of 1% of

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people are actually pregnant at any

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given time. However, the negative

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publicity and the brand damage could

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lead sales to decline some more. So,

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let's assume that their growth rate

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doesn't move at all for a moment. Are

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they selling for a discount? No. In my

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opinion, at a 2.83 peg, they're roughly

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fairly valued where they are right now.

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So, if they're fairly valued where they

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are right now, and we haven't accounted

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for even maybe a 1% decline in growth

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because of the Trump brand damage to the

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product, that's just going to make them

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seem even more overvalued. and they're

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basically cing out the business to pay

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out dividends. I don't actually think

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you've got a really great business here.

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So, for me, it's not a stock I'm

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interested in. Even though I don't

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really believe that there's this massive

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dramatic link between uh acetame like

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it's not like there's a smoking gun

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that's like, "Aha, Tylenol is causing

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autism. We have finally found you." I I

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I don't see that at all here. Uh, again,

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I see those light links. I get it. I can

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see where the argument is coming from.

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Uh, but it's not enough for me to say,

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"Oh my gosh, never touch Tylenol." Uh, I

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mean, I'm I'm a big fan of generally not

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taking I'm not a supplement person. I

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generally I I rarely take painkillers. I

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take maybe maybe

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out of a year, maybe one or two days a

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year, I'll take a painkiller, right?

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Knock on wood. I'm grateful for that.

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Obviously, everybody's got a different

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health situation. So, I I just want to

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point out like if we're in that

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situation, be grateful. that is a great

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position to be in uh and and preserve

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it, keep yourself healthy. Uh that said,

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yeah, I mean, look, obviously, you know,

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drugs during pregnancies, nobody knows,

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right? But again, you know, is this a

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stock to buy?

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I don't know. Maybe it's more of a swing

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on short-term drama over brand damage

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from from uh uh you know, Trumpian

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concerns than anything. But it's a tough

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one to play. It's not one for me. I'm

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out. comment says, "Kevin, you missed

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the lawsuits the company might get." You

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know, you also missed the lawsuits that

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Donald Trump might get, right? Like

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Donald Trump targeting this brand. The

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brand theoretically could argue that

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Donald Trump defamed the brand and win

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some massive damage award based on

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potentially declining sales. So, I think

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the legal stuff sort of like goes plus

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and minus there. I don't really weigh

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that out mostly because the legal stuff

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is going to take years to work out. Uh,

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and it'll go both ways. Uh, now in

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fairness, judges have been favoring

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Trump lately. So, it is also possible

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you lose on a defamation and you lose on

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the brand sales and then other companies

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or other people get together as like a

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class action and sue uh Ken View for

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potential, you know, autism and their

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children.

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Yeah. I mean, that's called bio for you.

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You know, you're always going to have

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litigation risk in bio, man. That's

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because uh bio is so hard. You know, the

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human body is so complicated. You know,

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for so long people like, "Oh my gosh,

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don't eat eggs. They cause cholesterol

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uh to your cholesterol to go up." And

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that's only because, you know, there's

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dietary cholesterol in eggs. So, people

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are like, "Oh, well, if there's dietary

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cholesterol and eggs, that must mean my

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blood cholesterol goes up." Yes and no.

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Shortterm, if you eat dietary

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cholesterol, yes, your blood cholesterol

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goes up, but it's super short term.

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longer term, eating eggs can actually

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contribute your to your cholesterol

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going down because it's a healthy food.

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And there's no link between dietary

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cholesterol and long-term blood

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cholesterol. There's more of a link

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between an a heavy amount of saturated

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fats, which eggs do have as well, but a

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heavy amount of saturated fats more so

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from like red meats and high cholesterol

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or trans fats from French fries than

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there is between eggs and high

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cholesterol. So like bio is is just so

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overwhelming. I I mean I love it. Don't

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get me wrong. I love it. But not enough

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to invest in any kind of stock related

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about this.

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>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and

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see how it goes. Congratulations, man.

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You have done so much. People love you.

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People look up to you.

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>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst

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and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great

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to get your take.

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