Buying Tylenol Stock.
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Should you buy Tylenol stock after
Donald Trump encouraged labels on
Tylenol encouraging pregnant women not
to take the drug to flee from Tylenol
because of a possible association
between autism in children and the use
of acetaminophen the primary ingredient
in Tylenol. Now Tylenol was spun off
from Johnson and Johnson is now run or
owned and manufactured by a company
called Kenvue. We're going to talk about
Ken Vue and Ken View stock. It spun off
in 2023.
Uh and they are down 33%
all time. Uh and as soon as Trump got
into office, uh we could see the stock
is down from about the election over
here. Stock's down about 22% since Trump
got in office. Uh and then just in about
the last month, we're down about 11 or
17% uh with uh with with some uh even 3%
in the last five days here of down here.
You can see that Trump announcement hit
although we are rebounding a little bit
today. So what is this stock? Should you
buy this stock? First thing a lot of
people pay attention to is they do pay
out dividends. They got a 4.7%
dividend, which sounds great to get a
nice nearly 4.7 or nearly 5% yield on
your money, but the company lost 17%
this year in stock value. So, are you
really winning? You're still net down 12
or 13%. So, the question has to do with
the company's, in my opinion, valuation
and the actual reality around Tylenol.
Look, here's the thing. Bottom line,
Tylenol uh has been associated with
use over time reducing certain
antioxidant that could protect the brain
from antioxidative stress. This is uh
glutathione depletion is what people
refer to. However, in normal doses, you
usually don't see a link here. But if
you use it regularly, people are saying
ah there is a mechanism where you could
actually cause stress to the brain of
maybe the mother or the child. And this
is where people are linking Tylenol to
autism. Now when we actually look at
results,
Harvard reviewed 46 studies about this
and found 27 of the studies found a link
between acettophen and autism. Nine
found no link and four found that
acetammenophen use actually helped
prevent autism. Okay. Now the problem
with this is a link between acetamophen
and autism does not mean that the
acetaminophen caused autism. See a link
means they occurred at the same time. In
fact, there was a study that reviewed uh
a few million patients uh between 1995
to 2019 and found that of those 1.4% 4%
of children who had autism did have
acetaminophen taken by their mother
during pregnancy compared to excuse me
an incident rate of 1.33% autism for
those without acetaminophen suggesting
yeah there was a little bit of an
increase in the amount of autism in uh
children or in pregnancies where
acetammenophen or talenol was taken. Now
this is where it's really important to
understand the difference between a link
and a causal relationship. So a link
means two things happen at the same
time. Like for example, everyone who got
shot with a 90% of people who get shot
with a gun bleed.
Okay? So the like bleeding and gunshot
wounds tend to go hand in hand. Now in
this case we could make the argument
that the gunshot wound caused the
bleeding but when it comes to
acetamophen we can't say that
acetaminophen caused the autism and
that's because there could be other
things that caused the acetaminophen. So
for example let's say you you shoot a
gun a lot in your life and then you have
lead poisoning. Okay. Well maybe you ate
lead paint when you were a child. uh and
it doesn't have to do with you going to
the shooting range a lot. Right? So
that's where it's unclear that just
because they both happened at the same
time, one caused the other. So point of
this is people who take acetamophen
usually take it because they have a
problem. They have pain, they have a
fever, they've got, you know, something
that they're trying to solve. Remember,
usually we use ibuprofen as an
anti-inflammatory. And acetaminophen
works more on the brain. It more blocks
your pain receptors than reducing
inflammation. That's why you generally
see a difference between ibuprofen and
acetamophen. And it's also why people
say if you have a lot of pain, you could
actually double up. I'm not a doctor.
Talk to your doctor. But you could
double up acetto and ibuprofen because
they're acting in different ways on your
body to help reduce pain. It's an
interesting argument. That's it. Acetto
medicine made by this company uh is is
not conclusively associated with autism.
But the make America healthy movement
and sort of the antivax community are
jumping on this oxidative stress
linkage. Uh and then the fact that the
there is a higher incidence of children
who had autism where their mothers were
taking acettophen. Again that 1995 to
2019 study where people like aha it's
hyalonol that's bad. And other people
are like, "No, it could be because they
were sick and that's what led to the
people don't really know." But the point
is, do you buy the dip on the stock?
Okay, so here's the actual company. So
the financials of the company because,
you know, this is the same thing we do
in the course member live streams pretty
regularly. We love doing fundamental
analysis because uh well, as you've
heard CNBC say,
>> Kevin is much more interested than most
people, by the way, in the balance
sheet. We we love the balance sheets. We
love looking at assets.
Take a look at this. We've got about um
$33
billion in cash and receivables. We have
current liabilities or bills to pay of
$5.9 billion. That means we have $2 of
bills to pay for every dollar of assets
we have. That's not great. We have $3
billion of more bills to pay than we
have money for. Our cash flow is about
$800 million. And this $800 million is
in 6 months. So in fairness, it would
take about $1.9 years to catch up just
using free cash flow to pay their
current debts that they have in current
liabilities. On top of that, they've got
another $7 billion in debts, which would
take somewhere around eight years to pay
off. The thing is they're not really
worried about repaying just their debts.
Although they are see repayment of
senior notes, they paid off 750 mil, but
they don't really care about that
because they just turned around and
borrowed basically the same amount
again. And the reason they're borrowing
is to make sure that you can get your
delicious dividend payment. So they're
basically borrowing money to pay
dividends. So they're kind of, in my
opinion, cing out the business. Like I
don't think this is great financial
management that is paying dividends
while you don't even have enough money
to pay your bills. Me as somebody that
does analysis on a daily basis on
companies, I don't personally like
seeing that. Uh it's something that's a
red flag to me when we do our course
member uh analysis and our alpha reports
in the mornings. We do that every day
before the market opens up. You can get
that over at me.com. So what you see
here is that this company has a gross
profit of 59% net income of 10.9%. That
means for every 10 bucks they they sell
you stuff for they make about a buck
roughly. Okay. Now this comes from the
annual report. So I wrote some notes
here. Okay. Uh and when you go to the
annual report you'll see that Tylenol
sits in a category that makes up about
39% of the business. However, that
category includes Benadryil, Zerek,
Motrin, Nicaret, and Rhinocort along
with some other junk. So realistically,
you've only got 12.9% of earnings per
share. Maybe if Tylenol represents a
third of self-care that that comes from
Tylenol. So maybe out of every dollar
they make, 12 cents comes from Tylenol.
On top of that, only half of 1% of
people are actually pregnant at any
given time. However, the negative
publicity and the brand damage could
lead sales to decline some more. So,
let's assume that their growth rate
doesn't move at all for a moment. Are
they selling for a discount? No. In my
opinion, at a 2.83 peg, they're roughly
fairly valued where they are right now.
So, if they're fairly valued where they
are right now, and we haven't accounted
for even maybe a 1% decline in growth
because of the Trump brand damage to the
product, that's just going to make them
seem even more overvalued. and they're
basically cing out the business to pay
out dividends. I don't actually think
you've got a really great business here.
So, for me, it's not a stock I'm
interested in. Even though I don't
really believe that there's this massive
dramatic link between uh acetame like
it's not like there's a smoking gun
that's like, "Aha, Tylenol is causing
autism. We have finally found you." I I
I don't see that at all here. Uh, again,
I see those light links. I get it. I can
see where the argument is coming from.
Uh, but it's not enough for me to say,
"Oh my gosh, never touch Tylenol." Uh, I
mean, I'm I'm a big fan of generally not
taking I'm not a supplement person. I
generally I I rarely take painkillers. I
take maybe maybe
out of a year, maybe one or two days a
year, I'll take a painkiller, right?
Knock on wood. I'm grateful for that.
Obviously, everybody's got a different
health situation. So, I I just want to
point out like if we're in that
situation, be grateful. that is a great
position to be in uh and and preserve
it, keep yourself healthy. Uh that said,
yeah, I mean, look, obviously, you know,
drugs during pregnancies, nobody knows,
right? But again, you know, is this a
stock to buy?
I don't know. Maybe it's more of a swing
on short-term drama over brand damage
from from uh uh you know, Trumpian
concerns than anything. But it's a tough
one to play. It's not one for me. I'm
out. comment says, "Kevin, you missed
the lawsuits the company might get." You
know, you also missed the lawsuits that
Donald Trump might get, right? Like
Donald Trump targeting this brand. The
brand theoretically could argue that
Donald Trump defamed the brand and win
some massive damage award based on
potentially declining sales. So, I think
the legal stuff sort of like goes plus
and minus there. I don't really weigh
that out mostly because the legal stuff
is going to take years to work out. Uh,
and it'll go both ways. Uh, now in
fairness, judges have been favoring
Trump lately. So, it is also possible
you lose on a defamation and you lose on
the brand sales and then other companies
or other people get together as like a
class action and sue uh Ken View for
potential, you know, autism and their
children.
Yeah. I mean, that's called bio for you.
You know, you're always going to have
litigation risk in bio, man. That's
because uh bio is so hard. You know, the
human body is so complicated. You know,
for so long people like, "Oh my gosh,
don't eat eggs. They cause cholesterol
uh to your cholesterol to go up." And
that's only because, you know, there's
dietary cholesterol in eggs. So, people
are like, "Oh, well, if there's dietary
cholesterol and eggs, that must mean my
blood cholesterol goes up." Yes and no.
Shortterm, if you eat dietary
cholesterol, yes, your blood cholesterol
goes up, but it's super short term.
longer term, eating eggs can actually
contribute your to your cholesterol
going down because it's a healthy food.
And there's no link between dietary
cholesterol and long-term blood
cholesterol. There's more of a link
between an a heavy amount of saturated
fats, which eggs do have as well, but a
heavy amount of saturated fats more so
from like red meats and high cholesterol
or trans fats from French fries than
there is between eggs and high
cholesterol. So like bio is is just so
overwhelming. I I mean I love it. Don't
get me wrong. I love it. But not enough
to invest in any kind of stock related
about this.
>> We'll we'll try a little advertising and
see how it goes. Congratulations, man.
You have done so much. People love you.
People look up to you.
>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst
and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great
to get your take.
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