ANOTHER FAA *FAILURE* | Southwest Plane PLUNGES | Near Miss
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Shortly after the Southwest flight took
off from Burbank Airport yesterday
afternoon, terrifying passengers,
including Fox News digital reporter
Tracy Wright and her good friend Caitlyn
Birdie.
>> 10 minutes because we had just started
talking about like what are we going to
do this weekend? It turned into a real
nightmare real quick. We plummeted and
there was no warning at all and it was
just a freef fall for what felt like 5
to 10 seconds.
Two flight attendants were treated for
injuries after the plane quickly
plummeted. The FAA released a statement
on this incident, saying, quote, "South
Airlines Flight 1496 responded to an
onboard alert that another aircraft was
in the vicinity while in Los Angeles Air
Route Traffic Control Center airspace."
Bird's mother was on the plane, too.
They huddled together when it quickly
descended as other passengers cried out,
fearing for their lives.
There was a baby on board and the baby
was screaming. U people going, "Oh my
god." Um, a lot of nose. Um, and then a
woman screaming, "I I need to I want to
get off. I want to get off." Um, so
everyone experienced some trauma within
the
>> All right. So, as a jet pilot, this is
actually a very scary thing for
passengers, but it's actually extremely
safe that the resolution advisory system
worked because this aircraft was
actually a military aircraft, but
privatelyowned.
Now, this creates some interesting
pluses and minuses. Very frequently,
military aircraft fly with their
transponders off. If your transponders
are off, it means pilots can't get any
kind of resolution advisory to climb or
to descend. This is really important
because when you're flying as a pilot,
you are always aware of traffic around
you. But in the worst case scenario,
traffic gets close to you. The TCAST
system will work in your plane in
conjunction with other planes to provide
what are called RAS or resolution
advisories. These start with just simple
notifications that flash yellow flashing
lights that say traffic.
Uh and you'll look and see, okay, where
is the traffic? Do I have eyes on the
traffic? What's going on? These can then
advance to basically a resolution
advisory which is you where you start
getting notifications displaying like
hey you need to be prepared to take
evasive action and after you're prepared
to take evasive action the computer will
actually automatically tell you to
descend or to climb. Now this is by
design. It tells each aircraft what to
do. Now, there's a very important
difference here about this privately
used or flown military aircraft and a an
actual military aircraft because this
may not have turned out as well had this
actually been a military aircraft. Let's
listen though for a moment what these
alerts sound like so you could see what
a traffic advisory or resolution
advisory sounds like.
Traffic 12:00 5 m hour level.
>> Climb. Climb.
>> Flight directors off. Increase climb.
Increase climb.
>> Those are resolution advised 9 alley
tass.
>> Traffic is 2 and 12
>> here. You could see traffic uh yeah as
they're saying 2 and 1/2 miles out 800
ft below now. So traffic coming straight
at you and the resolution advisory is
climb increase climb. So they're at
12,700 ft in this case.
>> 12:00 700 below.
>> Clear of conflict.
>> Clear of conflict is a way of saying,
"Hey, you're good. You're over 1,000 ft
away. Uh it doesn't look like your
trajectories are going to converge at
any point. This is this is a good thing,
right?" Uh here's another that was a
simulator. Here's a sort of real life
example of what it might look like. Uh
although I'm actually I'm not sure if
this is real life or this is also a
simulator, but it it it's a little bit
more clear with the instrumentation up
close.
>> Looking out to see if we can see the
traffic. We can't see anything yet.
There it is. I've just seen live
>> traffic
>> same. And get ready if we need to do any
corrective action.
air.
>> Yeah. See these bars right here? I have
had these bars come up myself as a jet
pilot. Uh now those will actually come
up before it commands you to climb or to
descend because it's giving you a heads
up like I'm about to move you. Get
ready. Uh and so I've actually had this
with uh a Delta flight myself before.
I've never gotten an advisory, but we
were close enough to where we had the
red bars. And this is with air traffic
control separating us. We're all on
you're you're on a mandatory flight plan
when you're above 18,000 ft. You're in
class A airspace. Everything is air
traffic control.
>> The autopilot has disengaged and Jason
descending. Keeping outside.
>> Climb now.
>> That's a reversal.
>> Climb now.
>> Climb now.
It's a reversal. So, we've got to climb.
There's the traffic.
>> So, you notice in this example, the
aircraft actually descended about 500 ft
rapidly. You're disconnecting the
autopilot. You're throwing the plane
over. This feels extremely uncomfortable
for passengers, but it's it's the safe
thing to do. And even though people
have, you know, videos of, hey, like
that was really scary. Oh my gosh, I
thought we were going down or whatever.
Uh, the more I fly, the more I realize
that evasive actions from pilots are by
design safe. Like, not doing the evasive
action is a scary thing. So, here I I
always like showing this video because
this is just an example where I'm
purposefully stalling the aircraft. Uh,
you can see I've got a jet here at 6,500
ft at 101 knots. You could see my
speedometer right here is showing 101
knots flashing in red. And that's
because we're about to stall. Uh, and so
you'll see me break the stall by watch
the horizon bar here. Break the water.
We're doing these stalls off the beach
uh off of uh Santa Barbara here.
>> Stall. Stall.
>> Stall. Stall.
>> There it is.
>> Power.
>> Stall. Stall.
>> That's our hydraulic pusher that's
actually pushing us over. uh to to you
know prevent a complete stall uh and it
just simulates a stall recovery. But the
hydraulic pusher will actually push you
forward to force your nose over so you
can capture that air speed again. Uh but
again these these evasive actions
critical when it comes to flying. But so
it turns out that this hawker was
actually privately registered. Now why
does it matter that this was privately
registered? Uh well because it means
that it did have the opportunity to
provide transponder data tast
whatever ADSB out uses you know
transponder system. So the point of this
is if this aircraft did not have a
transponder on you actually would not
have seen the other aircraft on your
flight radar which is right here. So
this is the uh flight radar website
here. You could see that separation
where at one point they got within 350
ft of each other which is extremely
dangerous. Like this should not have
happened and it looks very much like
this aircraft was on a pretty straight
shot here. Uh so uh we'll have to look
in just a moment at the altitudes of
where they are but it looks like
Southwest is climbing out of Burbank. So
it's possible they haven't gotten into
class A yet. And it's entirely possible
that this aircraft is on a VFR flight
plan or basically just VFR, so not on a
flight plan, visual flight rules. Uh, as
long as they were under 18,000 ft, they
could have just theoretically been doing
their own thing. And it's possible that
this aircraft was never actually in
communication with uh air traffic
control because you don't need flight
following in uh a you know, a nonclass
alpha. Yeah. See, look at this. The
Southwest flight is at 14,000 ft. So,
it's entirely possible that this
aircraft was not on the same frequency
as uh uh the Southwest plane who they've
they're on an IFR flight plan. They may
not be they might not even have flight
following. So, there's no potential
communication between the two two
aircraft, which isn't great. But,
obviously, this is where, you know, the
uh Southwest Desend, which we get looks
like. Yeah, right here we're at 145
and then here we descend about 500.
That resolution advisory. Oh, I'm sorry.
Hold on a sec. They clicked to the other
one. The other plane is at 145. So that
the southwest plane is actually climbing
directly into the hawker.
So air traffic control should have been
guiding southwest further to the right.
Oh, here's Magic Mountain. uh especially
because this guy may not have been on
cons but because this guy had his te his
ADSB on the resolution advisory worked
as intended. So this sort of like media
spectacle around oh my gosh near miss
was actually just a way of saying hey
our technology was working as intended.
our uh you know avoidance technology,
our traffic avoidance technology,
collision avoidance systems are working
as they're supposed to because again
you're on not the same radio
communications. ATC is apparently, you
know, I I don't want to ever point
blame, but like somebody's sleeping
here. Somebody's not paying attention to
these converging paths. Uh and uh
unfortunately
you had a resolution advisory which
isn't great because it scares passengers
and nobody wants to have that feeling.
Again, nothing like structurally bad is
expected to happen to an aircraft. In
this case, these aircraft are designed
to be able to maneuver for exactly these
purposes. So even though it feels really
funky, it's actually incredibly safe.
And if I heard at that moment, like if I
were a passenger and I heard the pilot
say, "Hey, we got a TCAST, you know,
resolution advisory." Uh, no problem.
Nothing wrong. The rest of your flight
could be totally fine. Uh, no issue here
at all. So, now the bigger problem is
what if this aircraft was actually a
military aircraft and it had its
transponder off? Well, if its
transponder were off, it would not show
up at all. It would essentially be
invisible to the Southwest aircraft and
the Southwest aircraft would not have
gotten a resolution advisory. So that
whoop whoop descend that would not
happen because the system would not see
the military aircraft. And this is what
frustrates me and we actually talked
about this a few days ago is that
military aircraft uh generally in in
America fly with their transponders off.
I personally think that should not be
allowed. I personally think we should
mandate military aircraft within the
United States uh certainly under 45,000
feet to fly with their transponders on
because it's dangerous especially when
air traffic control can't even see you.
Uh that's scary and our tcast systems
are basically overridden. This is in my
opinion what led to the uh disaster of
um the PTOAC going into DC where we had
a uh you know the crash between the
helicopter uh and the commercial
airliner. Absolutely horrible. These
things could be avoided if transponders
are actually on. And we know in that
PTOIC crash that the transponder was not
on uh which contributed to the confusion
that ended up leading uh to that that
crash or that accident. Another video
where I covered this was actually this
just about a week ago. B-52 bomber near
miss is a disgrace, right? And it's a
disgrace and you should watch the video,
but it's a disgrace because our FAA
should require military aircraft to fly
with transponders on. And the reason why
is exactly this. When somebody makes an
oopsies, I'm not pointing the finger at
anyone, but when somebody makes an
oopsies and misses these trajectories
and we get this close at a at a similar
altitude of a climbing claim and VFR
traffic and nobody's paying attention,
nobody's communicating to this aircraft
because they're not on the same
frequency, then at least we can rely on
technology to back us up. But the
military is allowed to fly with this
technology off, which means now you are
only relying on humans, which is stupid.
And it's just a matter of time before
more people lose their lives and more
people end up dying because of some
stupid idea that, oh well, the military
gets to fly with transponders off
because they would do so in enemy
territory. Well, no duh. But when we're
at home, turn your transponder on. Why
not advertise these things that you told
us here? I feel like nobody else knows
about this. We'll we'll try a little
advertising and see how it goes.
>> Congratulations, man. You have done so
much. People love you. People look up to
you.
>> Kevin Praath there, financial analyst
and YouTuber. Meet Kevin. Always great
to get your take.
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