Tesla Fraud Investigation [Securities & Wire Fraud]
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well well well the SEC is back after
Elon Musk and Tesla well actually they
kind of haven't stopped being after Elon
Musk and Tesla for a while now but
Reuters as you've probably already heard
is reporting that there are the
potential wire fraud allegations against
Tesla for misleading statements a
puffery or
misleading basically salesmanship to
investors of Tesla stock for the
performance of full self-driving now
before we get into what all of that
actually means for Tesla I think it's
worth clearing up two things up front
number one I think it's always been
clear that full self-driving is a beta
software and it's quite frankly the best
software that exists on the road today
is it 100% autonomous no of course not
but don't think that it's ever sold as
that now that might not necessarily be
the sec's problem here because quite
frankly I think that would be a hard
problem to win I think the bigger
argument that the SEC has is with Elon
Ms uh Elon musk's Elon Ms oh no Elon
musk's expectations or forecasts around
when certain things would be available
such as when we would hit certain
forecast uh targets for the full
availability of FSD which as we know
keeps getting kicked down the road uh
how many cyber trucks and when we might
see them how many semi trcks and when
when we might see the Roadster these
sorts of patterns of promises that well
they're not
necessarily no longer happening they're
certainly taking a whole lot longer to
achieve and it'll be something where the
SEC might try to use promises that Elon
makes in conjunction with promises
around hey a $25,000 vehicle hey look at
our Dojo supercomputer system hey look
at our 4680 cells and how these will be
the future and soon every car will be
using dojo and 46 80s and soon we'll
have the $25,000 car and the SCC might
try to allege hey well now you're saying
4680 are a hedge well that's not what
you told folks on battery day that
you're really only making these now for
the Cyber truck it was supposed to be
for everything but that's not happening
now because obviously uh Chinese
batteries are quite frankly cheaper
lithium prices have collapsed and some
of the success of the 4680 technology
just hasn't really been up to Snuff same
thing with Dojo Dojo was supposed to be
the
future now it's h100s so I'm not pooping
on those programs but let's be real
investors were sold this and we're
probably you know here making our way up
to there if anything kind of like
bleeding out a little bit on some of
these now what I want to be clear about
is I'm not a Tesla bear this whole video
isn't to say oh you know we should
listen to Reuters and be worried about
Reuters or we need to be uh concerned
about what's going to end up happening
here with the SEC I'm simply trying to
understand and I I thought about this
this morning what could the SEC
potentially strain together we know
they've been investigating Tesla's FSD
since 2020 we know that they've been
subpoenaing folks quite frankly uh at
least since October of 2023 I mean
here's a piece on that Us justice
department has sought documents and
issues subpoenas to Tesla in conjunction
obviously with the Security and Exchange
Commission and then when the SEC finds
something they can refer it to the doj
who can actually file a criminal
complaint so I got to thinking about
this a little
bit what what is this actually like why
is this happening and then what does
this mean as a Tesla shareholder okay so
first things first why is this happening
I really hate to say it but I think a
lot of
this can be spawned by elon's attitude
towards The
Regulators now not we all know every
person isn't perfect everybody makes
mistakes and Regulators realize that
like hey you screw up as you know a
publicly listed company or whatever uh
you know you might have to pay a fine uh
and issue corrective action and come up
with a plan so that you don't screw up
again in the future just to go like
extreme with this right look at
basically the audit sham Mill BF borgers
they uh were just shut down by the SEC
uh that was the company the Trump spack
hired but they didn't actually do any
work for the Trump spack yet uh but this
audit Mill at least the allegation goes
basically just took old Audits and
changed dates and passed them off as new
ones they're doing like three to four
audits per employed person or or three
to four x the number of audits per
employed person that other audit firms
were doing leading to a lot of
suspicions that they weren't actually
auditing that they were kind of just
falsifying documents and you know
checking off boxes that weren't supposed
to be checked that company got
finded 10 million bucks and the CEO got
fin $2 million now obviously those are
big numbers but for a corporation it's
like okay that's probably and again we
have to say probably and allegedly a
blatant fraud and that was their fine
now they're not the size and magnitude
of Tesla but those are the sorts of
frauds that the SEC is trying to shut
down you know if if you had a goal and
uh you screwed up on your goal and you
made it really clear like hey look
here's what the goal is with FSD here's
we are now where we are now here's what
has to happen to get to this goal and
you fall short maybe that's not that big
of a deal maybe that's the
entrepreneurial Spirit and the SEC I
don't think would really go go after
Tesla for that I think what's more is
that it almost sometimes feels like Elon
Musk is purposefully trying to spite The
Regulators and then The Regulators are
then sort of dare I say looking for all
right well we could play that game too
and the best comparison I can give you
is or uh example I should say I could
give you is when Elon Musk said Hey look
I'll meet you SEC and we'll do our
deposition together I'll come to your
office and I'll do a meeting this was
late last year two days before he
cancels going to visit the
SEC Weeks Later goes completely dark on
the
SEC SEC suggests hey can you come visit
us at any of these offices around the
country can we get this done we'll
accommodate you anywhere let's get this
done it basically got to the point of a
court having to compel Elon Musk to
testify or or to provide you know
whatever information or to the interview
that the SEC wanted and I think it's
that sort of blatant spiting of uh
Regulators that has Regulators going hm
okay well if you're going to spite us is
it because maybe you're trying to hide
something and let's go investigate this
a little bit and then what do they do
they subpoena employees or how about all
the employees that just got fired it's
not that hard for them to subpoena a
bunch of employees who just got fired
and put together some kind of basically
you know thorough thoroughly exemplified
complaint with the in conjunction with
the Department of Justice where they're
basically able to go here's what Elon
Musk said to investors 4680 you know
that's the future I mean we should look
it up battery day Tesla right so battery
day Tesla was September
2020 and that was the annual meeting of
stock uh share holders basically uh and
uh battery day and they put together
this gorgeous uh uh battery Day
presentation this was it uh and uh you
know we got a little bit of enthusiasm
and excitement but about you know future
product lines and future features I
remember covering this it was really
really exciting uh this was so fun
everybody was so excited about what
Tesla was up to uh and so this is where
they gave this basically demonstration
of how amazing uh they've come up with
the technology to create this evolution
in a product but here they're pitching
50 plus% energy density now some of that
obviously will be because of volume
because it's obviously a larger battery
it's kind of like a AAA Battery to a
doublea battery this is the way I like
to look at it uh but some of these
promises the SEC will probably go to and
look at and say okay so here's a you
know 468 8 cell 16 plus% range 5x the
energy uh 14% uh uh cost per kilowatt
reduction where is that now and we're
going to get to introducing this into
every single uh vehicle uh that Tesla
creates and the goal is that by 2022
we're going to have 100 gwatt hours and
3 terawatt hours of battery production
uh by 2030 well mind you we're in
2024 and we're nowhere near maybe even
10% of 4680 capacity right now because
the only thing we're making these for
are cyber trucks so if the only thing
we're making these for are cyber trucks
uh let's see kilowatt hours cyber truck
let's see the current is 123 kilowatt
hours right kilowatt hours so we're
going to create let's go uh we'll call
this 123k dubs let's say 10,000 have
been created then we really have 1 2
million uh kilowatts 1.2 million
kilowatts okay well what is 100 gaws
here you go 100 gwatt hours is actually
oh boy what do we have here that looks
like 100 million kilowatt hours so we're
supposed to be at 100 million kilowatt
hours for the new batteries by 2022 so 2
years ago and cybertruck is maybe 1/
100th of that
so unfortunately there are going to be a
lot of opportunities for and this this
is just one example right Dojo being a
hedge 4680 being the nonpreferred
battery now the $25,000 car the Roadster
they've taken deposits for but I I don't
think it's anywhere near on a sort of
promises that the SEC is going to look
at in writing and go is this just a
pattern of Elon Musk creating
expectations that end up falling through
blomberg Intel actually did a pretty
good piece breaking down why the 4680
just isn't as efficient as expected and
so while this was really cool hope and
theoretical science it just didn't end
up working out the way Tesla expected
the problem with this is investors are
sold these
visions and then they don't necessarily
come true so what does that mean as an
investor is Tesla bad investment well
that's separate see I still think that
Tesla has a phenomenal upside in not
just FSD licensing but primarily just
selling cars at a high margin that's
still the biggest way that I underwrite
Teslas and I personally think you can
almost collapse the value of FSD into
the value of the car and for probably at
least the next 5 to 10 years you've
really got a vehicle that you can't
compete against see in the longer term I
don't think people will actually buy a
car because it has full self-driving in
it I think every car will have full
self-driving in it so it kind of go back
to buying a car because it's a car and
it'll just come with a full self-driving
stack inside of it so manufacturing
Teslas and making Tesla's ubiquitous is
always going to be what's very very
important to Tesla other companies will
solve full self-driving as well so as a
long-term investor for Tesla uh although
I do fundamentally trade it to take
advantage of tax scenarios which I think
everybody should but that's on them uh
it's not personalized advice obviously
it's broad broad suggest question I
think
that this investigation in Tesla is not
necessarily A Bad Thing uh but it's
certainly not a good thing like we know
it's not good uh and I wouldn't say it's
something that says you know run for you
know Run for the hills or whatever to
get out of Tesla because the SEC and the
doj may end up putting together some
form of fraud complaint against Tesla I
can already see the headline Tesla
charged with massive fraud over seven
years or what ever due to elon's
promises and then what they do is they
put together a list of here all the
claims here are the employees on the
inside on record going yeah that's
yeah that's yeah
that's that's uh and
then here are the new promises from Elon
what do we expect is that pattern is
what they'll establish and that's going
to look really bad now do I really think
that uh whatever punishment could
potentially come out of a criminal
complaint uh which could end up just
being like paying back money to
sharehold holders or or uh you know some
form of fines or a combination of that
do I really think that is a what you
want to plan for no of course not
because it it'll probably damage the
company and the stock a lot more uh but
do I think that that happening is enough
to say oh Tesla's a Bad Company should
invest in Tesla no not at all absolutely
not but I do think that elon's behavior
against Regulators has unfortunately
attracted this negative attention
generally I'm of the mindset where uh I
i' you know love to be able to be as as
uh as as Cooperative as possible to say
Hey you know if if let's say the SEC
says Hey Kevin you know we have a
problem with this how can we fix it and
so there are always going to be cases
where you're going to have to pay fines
uh for things that just aren't perfect
as they should
be but I think you enhance or worsen
that when you purposefully try to spite
The Regulators and then you kind of give
them the
ammunition to come after you so I think
a little bit this is um unfortunately
Elon soaking regulatory attention to him
when he shouldn't be soaking and and I'm
not talking about the Mormon soaking
either this is like maybe we should use
the word magnet magnetically attracting
this sort of negative attention I think
uh trying to be a little bit more um how
should I say uh Cooperative might go a
long way anyway who knows this is just
my thought my speculation a lot of folks
were asking me about this so here it is
do I really think a wire charge at the
end of the day is going to be a big deal
again doesn't look good it'll take years
to actually litigate the point
is I think uh I think this is a very
similar to a get Trump uh situation
unfortunately can not advertise these
things that you told us here I feel like
nobody else knows about this we'll we'll
try a little advertising and see how it
goes congratulations man you have done
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