Man Gets FIRED Up After News Company Rejects His Story
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in July
2024 police were dispatched to a news
company after an individual refused to
leave the premises in O Clair Wisconsin
a 35-year-old man named Seth arrived
Uninvited at a news organization to
discuss his story with the media hoping
they would cover it when informed that
his story was not something they would
pursue he started yelling at the staff
and pounding on the desk upon arrival
the officer observed Seth waiting
outside the building hello what's up off
all no clear Police Department yeah I
think I've seen you before down by SoJO
what's your name again Seth there's a
lot of calls for one week week man civil
rights activism ising messy okay so
what's going on and I know I just
appreciate all your guys' work I'm
trying to speak with news media I've
spoken with all the homeless I've spoken
with citizens and business owners AC
cross o Clair I have sat and made a fool
of myself all week in multiple places
and multiple ways I'm trying everything
and none of the news will come out and
talk to me whether I email them the best
letter send them video say or or my
speech at City Hall or whatever and just
like some other people they think they
can talk down to me because I give them
part of the story and they go oh
homeless guy writing on sign okay we're
busy blah blah blah whatever and I was
sitting in there speaking with the lady
who let me in and we were having an
adult conversation but I started getting
passionate assertive like we're doing
right now I wasn't yelling or screaming
at her I was speaking like this I said
wait hold on a second you're saying
you're too busy but none of so I was you
know I was speaking with
passion and some other lady popped out
in the lobby to go she's at work right
now you aren't supposed to be here and
I'm like what are you talking about
we're having an adult conversation and
they pressured that girl into telling me
to leave they all came in like a bunch
of bullies and said we're going to call
the cops the especially the the the
blonde lady or whatever we're going to
call the cops you're not supposed to be
here you're not even the person that let
me in or who's talking to me I'm a civil
rights demonstrator I'm not gonna let
other people bump into me like that and
make threats about my welfare against
the police everyone is using you as a
police state to bully the poor this is
not okay this is a civil rights
demonstration and so yeah if they're
going to treat me like this I have to
act this way I have to get mad at them
and yell that's not what I wanted to do
I wanted to come in and just tell them
more of my story to get them interested
and that's what I was doing with this
lady and all three of them came in like
like a like a pile of hawks no listen
dude if the media gets too mad and
doesn't pay attention to me because this
that and the other then I'm so I'm still
going to wait here unless you arrest me
or make me go away while you go talk to
them and get their side of the story
Seth real quick you didn't let me talk
to you you can't talk to me I'm right
here dude okay you're walking away from
me though I'm not walking away from you
I'm sitting down I walked like 10 miles
toing get here and I was having a
respectful conversation with the
receptionist and the lady came in and
threatened to put me in jail and I
couldn't tell if it was real or not so I
also called to make sure that if she was
going to threaten that that she was
going to act on that impulse because
people keep threatening the poor with
jail when they do things that they don't
want to do this is a civil rights
demonstration if you have something to
say say it and then go talk to them
you're not letting me say it I would
like say yeah cuz I'm mad dude I'm
actually mad I have a horse voice so
it's hard it's hard for me to overs
speak
you it you were very passionate about
your cause I recognize that but you
can't force other people to be
passionate about it I wasn't I wasn't
that's not the situation you can't force
them to he you out this is a private
organization that's not the problem
you're not listening to me I was having
an adult convers I was let in I was let
in willingly no listen to me I listen to
everything you said okay they threatened
my welfare that's why you're here not
because I won't leave letting me speak
no you're not listening to me you're
making a statement that has nothing to
do with what I'm saying Len to
everything you said okay then tell me
something very poly tell now you listen
to something I say whether I've already
told you this or not this my chance to
talk you feel me then going go somewhere
useful for me please okay well where I'm
going to start with is it's private
property so if they want you to leave
you will leave I understand that but
they threaten my welfare from the police
so I'm dealing with that issue first
call telling both call the police on you
is not a threat it's their right just
like it's your right to call the police
they don't want you here or they don't
feel safe by you or they're annoyed by
you that's their prerogative to call the
police back of the bus is what you're
telling me right now that's not what no
that's what you're telling me you're
saying the status quo is get the in the
back of the bus Rosa Parks did okay then
go in there and talk to them and get
their side of the story first being
unreasonable I know because I'm mad
because these people just treated me
like human garbage and when I stand out
in the street and ask people to wave and
say hi to me none of them look at me and
they treat me like garbage this is a
simp they're not bad people cuz they
don't wave to you with your signs on the
so so listen to what I'm saying instead
of trying to soap box back on me are you
going to go in and get their side of the
story or you're going to tell me I have
to [ __ ] off or arrest me before you go
talk to them and do your job we probably
going to do both sir do both then go do
to them and then we'll go do that one
and if you got to take me in then it's
just one less fuing 10 m walk I have to
do toing get some rights for poor people
I'll just order you in so you can still
walk where you're going wow what a shing
little 5-year-old threat R the [ __ ] up
dude go do your job I'll wait for you go
do your job don't talk me I'm waiting
for another officer to C okay good good
but you're not going to sit here the
other officers are smarter than you
you're not going to sit here and throw a
temp I'm mad okay don't talk down to me
because I'm mad keep your distance from
me okay well I'm not trying to threaten
you big scary cop man I'm not the guy
that thinks all cops are bad I
appreciate I've spent the week calling
your department because this is hard
this makes people mad and it's not just
me calling nimes are fing calling on me
too this is real civil rights dude so
don't be the cop that told Rosa Parks to
get in the [ __ ] back of the bus
instead just deescalate deescalate that
is your job I didn't tell Rosa Park
deescalate and you're not Rosa Park
you're not de escalating you're not de
escalating so maybe this guy will
deescalate otherwise just leave me alone
leave me alone for a minute leave me
alone for a minute I'm angry please just
leave me alone stop trying to talk to me
please for a minute just leave me alone
that's not an a reasonable request leave
me alone officer noan go talk to them go
talk to them they want to talk to you I
don't want to talk to you for a minute
SE what's going on there yes hi I'm very
angry night right now and this other
officer is not doing a very good job of
deescalate my anger if you'd like to
talk to me can we lower the the rhetoric
please yeah okay good so what's going on
what brought you up here I am a civil
rights activist I am still alone in this
activity okay I have been doing so much
work and I've got no news coverage yet
they cover people throwing cheese at
cars and stealing brisket very well very
well so I'm trying to speak to people
that's it okay and so I was let in I
went and talked with the shorter Asian
lady she's very nice we had a very
constructive conversation and when my
rhetoric got this sharp is not angry but
it was very assertive somebody else came
out of the new like all three of them
came out like Gang Busters to go Caren
mode on me to go oh okay we've heard
enough of you you're poor you're crazy
get out of here blah blah blah that's
not what they said by the way the blond
lady came out and and just fully went
caring on me you you don't have to be
you know what I mean like a 5-year-old
just yelling at me like a 5-year-old
saying well we're going to call the
police and have you arrested I've
already played this game with a couple
people if that's a real threat then do
it and she sat there on the phone not
saying anything I'm like is she just
faking this so I called too please
resolve and deescalate the situation I
don't give a [ __ ] if they don't talk to
me but they pressured the person who let
me in that I was talking to into telling
me to leave when they were all sitting
there screaming at me like a bunch of
carens that I had to leave the person
that let me in to talk to me was still
standing there trying to talk to me so
that's why the situation escalated out
of control do you understand that now I
was still having a conversation and
permitted in the building by the person
who let me in until three others came by
to threaten me with police action and I
couldn't tell if it was real or not can
you go in and and talk to them and then
I'll wait out here and if you want me to
leave right away that did they ask you
to leave and you yes why didn't you
leave because the person who let me in
didn't ask me to leave it took like 10
minutes for me to get her to ask me to
leave no they came in and interrupted a
conversation that's it they're all the
same employees okay no they're not one
of them no they're not what a gross
overgeneralization now instead of in of
trying to instead of trying to
completely disarm any of my argument can
you just go talk to them first well I
will talk to them okay I I don't need to
be disarmed or deescalate we're having
an adult conversation that's all I'm
looking for right now well you asked me
to come up here and deescalate and we
are because you're listening to my story
and not throwing it back to me but now
you're trying to throw it back to me and
reframe it when you don't have the other
side so go get the other side guys go
get the other side first I will wait
okay I will wait I will postate myself
for you on the floor if that's what you
need sit in the nice grass okay sit in
the nice grass give me 5 minutes and
I'll be right
back I'm tired of this wait over here my
stuff's right here well either way you
guys are good at your jobs but man you
got to stop dictating at people when
they need to be de escalated you know
what I mean just let people be people
for a second figure out the whole
situation deescalate at the end when you
have the full picture I'm not bragging
on you dude I have a lot of respect for
you thank you I think you think people
like me after that BLM sh think all cops
are bad I hate it that [ __ ] I hated when
all mying lip [ __ ] friends started going
all cops are bad what the what kind of
ignorant [ __ ] is saying an entire group
of people is bad you know what that's
called bigotry how are you good how are
you good well we're good we're better
now we're ready to get back to work so
what happen you know what it's called
when people treat the the poor or quote
unquote homeless it's not even aing real
word it it's so broad it's like saying
the Earth what are you talking about
blade of grass you know what I mean it's
too broad he called a couple days ago
and wanted us to do a story
and then he just showed up here and I
kind of made my way up here and then he
kind of started like just ignoring her
and escalating his voice a little bit so
I came out here and told him to leave he
did not like that then he just most of
it was heard on the 911 call so it
wasn't like a pre-plan meeting or
anything like that no he
just Seth can I ask you how did you find
yourself in the situation of
homelessness what happened oh you want
the real answer of why I've been
homeless for 17 years yeah what happened
because I have a very unique personality
type that needs to be framed in the
correct way and it took 35 5 years to do
that but the reason that I spent that
entire time homeless and poor even
though I got clean from hard drugs is
because I'm the kind of guy who wants to
eat the biggest fing elephant in the
room and if sitting here and
de-escalating this with you present is
that elephant right now then so be it if
I get arrested after this for fing civil
rights demonstration so be it dude
that's kind of how it works this has to
get ugly and it's just up to these
people whether or not any of these news
people are going to talk to me cuz the
citizen reee it and every single person
goes wow you're really right when all
your cop buddies see the message that I
gave about us They Go wow you're really
right and what I started with was
talking to literally every homeless
person all the people I thought woulding
stab me if I asked them how their lives
were going I'm like Seth I can't help
you right now my boss and I still need
to talk about this story even though
with the way he was talking to me he was
leaning towards no at that point but I
was like I still need to talk about it
with her so I said her there's nothing
else I can do for you right now and he's
like I'll wait for her here I'll wait
for her all day I'm like that's not the
answer wanted every single one of them
there's not that many couple hundred at
most like 200 real Street recidivism not
homelessness the blight that everyone
talks about I talked to all of them that
was the first thing I did and it was
like well [ __ ] man all these people have
the same problem they need mental
healthcare services that includes drug
treatment that's the first one but they
need real case workers and they real
need real diagnostic psychiatrists and
oira has so much money invested in so
few people and gives literally zero of
that none of these places even provide
proper case management but you do have
like eight places that pretend to do it
eight why Western Dairyland pulls nearly
$17 million or more a year from federal
and state money does get loud and stuff
obviously was he like yelling at you
guys and M yeah he didn't like me at all
so are you the one that went caring on
him I
was I mean like she was just defending
me cuz he started to like he wasn't
yelling directly at me he's like you
don't need your boss's permission to do
this story I'm like technically yes we
have a secure building but once they're
in like this countertop isn't stopping
anybody so and then you say that to the
city and when they finally give you an
honest answer they're like oh well
that's not my problem it's not fate
state and federal money okay well right
now the city is planning on spending a
half million dollars to potentially
bulldoze Wilson Park or build some
othering parking garage or whatever to
build another day shelter we have a day
shelter and day shelters aren't even
that useful unless it's like a holiday
but you could just have a real shelter
that was a day and a night shelter
that's called a real shelter and you
don't you don't get punished for trying
show up there every day like these
people do good shelters reward you for
showing up every day everyone goes oh
well you can't give everyone everything
for free no you make them work for it
homelessness is aing job so you say come
back every day and we'll start your case
management oh you're doing drugs okay
we'll come back every day keep doing
your case management and then we'll send
you to a really good rehab and you make
it really easy for these people cuz
they're really sick this is a story as
old as time dude I sat in the woods and
found God do you want that answer I'm
not trying to conflate this message
right now but yeah if you want real me
yeah I found God God is here right now I
don't have faith Seth what is what is
the barrier between you and your work
that that that package I need people to
look at it and do more and go oh that's
neat the barrier between how you're
living your life now and getting into
like a home like having roof your head
holy does that do you just want my
Social Media stuff so you can learn what
I'm trying to say because you don't even
have the words to no no no this is
everyone's problems they don't even have
the correct words to frame the problem
if you if you said Homeless instead of
chronic homeless is at the very least
say cyclical recidivism that's the right
word say relational poverty that's the
right word if you say homeless or
housing you fall in for that [ __ ] dye
soft handshake liberal [ __ ] where
they say we're helping we're helping
we're helping and they steal all your
[ __ ] tax money to kill us off dude
I'm mad yes I'm mad this is a huge
problem and I'm trying to handle it
rationally and people will not look at
me like I'm not an animal when they know
that I'm homeless that's it that's it
dude I was having a nice conversation
with someone in there and it was
interrupted by someone else don't tell
me one employees word is better than
another when it comes to trespassing
when they start making threats about
your your fing personal safety that's
not okay protect and serve serve serve
serve the people that need it the most
dude don't just protect Seth my question
though was what is
keeping you're sucks so find different
words to ask the same question if you
want to ask it again find different
words please that's my message why have
you been homeless for 17 years I already
told you that I'm the kind of person who
wants to pick on the biggest problem in
the room okay and now I figured out how
to do that I figured out how to be
whatever I want to be I can be raging
guy in a parking lot and yell at a cop I
can go in there and be nice and say hey
this is my story hey are you guys real
news like this is the big story stopped
talking about cheese guys and the lady
was like listening to me but she was
processing it and then the other lady
jumped in and she's like I'm going to
call the police if you don't leave it's
like what I'm having a conversation with
another employee I don't even know who
you are this is the lady that let me in
I don't know who that other lady is and
she came out of nowhere and threaten my
welfare what the [ __ ] you mean leave
what do you mean you you're trespassing
I was not trespassing I was not
trespassing the sticking point is when
they ask you to leave and you don't
leave that's where okay that was the
sticking point for me too because I
couldn't tell if they were making a real
threat or not so I called to make sure
and they said yes they are so I said I'm
going to wait then outside I'm not in
there I'm not in there berating them
anymore I'm glad you came outside no I
came outside right after I called I'm
handling this like an adult I'm just
angry it's okay to be angry people don't
understand this anymore when two people
love each other a lot do they get along
and everything's peachy and Rosy all the
time true love is everything peachy and
Rosy all the time yes but they argue
it's called debate it's called
assertiveness you're a cop you know what
it means to be assertive you do it every
[ __ ] day that's what I'm doing right
now with some anger thrown in because I
just got kened out of my final objective
so yeah I'm mad I've been walking the
pavement every day for 8 to 15 fing
hours a day for the last month have
[ __ ] land here just to get tossed out
by a Karen after an idol threat because
I'm homeless I'm [ __ ] pissed yes dude
I've been working 18-hour days to land
here and have some Karen tell me to off
so I can go cover people throwing cheese
at cars you guys don't deescalate this
for me I'm going to walk off if you
don't arrest me I'm going to go buy
cheese and start throwing it at cars
until fing news trucks show up after
talking to the staff the officer went
back outside and attempted to reason
with Seth but he grad started to lose
his [ __ ] all right hopefully he will
leave and we'll come back
okay this is a civil rights movement and
if no one's going toing listen then I
give up I give up for real listen all
right Seth so I get you're very
passionate about what you're doing okay
you don't have to clausy it I just want
to make sure you went in and talk talk
to them you don't need to deescalate or
clausy me if you're going to arrest me
take me in if not I will wle well I'm
not going to arrest you but I'm going to
give you a citation I'm going to give
you a citation okay but I'm not going to
arrest you oh well squeeze that blood
from the stone my guy protect and serve
and you can't come back on their
property citation you want you want all
my you want all my money now there you
go I don't want your money I have no
money so what is a citation going to do
I need you to realize that you can't
keep acting like this so I'm coming you
I can act however you want this is
America you son of a [ __ ] this is
democracy this is how America is
supposed to work you [ __ ] [ __ ] ass
[ __ ] go talk to your buddies go talk to
your buddies about it write your
citation keep it in your records I don't
give a sh you can't squeeze blood from a
stone I'm never so walk off just like I
am noan you're smarter go talk to some
of your go talk to the guy that arrested
me twice the the Asian guy is it Chad or
Nate Nate Nate gets it go talk to Nate
this is your toughest call of the Year
man look into it go talk to Nate or
whoever else you have to talk to at the
the department who understands what I'm
doing cuz I've already had cops come by
and not do the little cop routine
[ __ ] they've gone wow we really like
what you're doing we haven't seen this
in a while or I've never actually had
this happen while I've done my job
somebody acting like a realing American
and standing up for people and trying to
get some democracy and representation I
did this the right way at first and the
city Representatives won't talk to me
Seth you have a good me good message I
don't want you I don't want
you don't give me more of your apologist
you know when you get any I'm giving you
constructive feedback while issuing his
citation it was also discovered that he
had an open misdemeanor case he then
began walking away despite being told he
was not free to leave until he received
his citation no I don't want your
constructive feedback because I don't
think it's constructive
go and that's when people stop listening
to you and they don't want to be
associated with you you shut the [ __ ] up
dude you get here when I'm angry and
you're telling me that I'm walking
around doing this angry all the
time that's the reaction that's
why nobody's going listen to you shut
the you're not free to go you're getting
a ticket you're not free to go you're
not free to go mouth closed get in your
car and go
sleep you're not free to go you're not
free to go you're this gu to leave me
alone har you're not free to go
harassment leave me alone SE alone
shut you are not free to go and I'm not
going to Seth proceeded to walk away and
ultimately ended up getting
decentralized to the
ground hey more fo all right now you're
not back to Sol AR confinement this is a
civil rights window
guys this is not really how I expected
death count 3 to go think this is kind
of how you want it to go every time cuz
you do the same thing over every time
save me Tom Cruz I like how you arrested
me while I was leaving you were told
you're not allowed to leave that's not
what you said you didn't say that at all
I told you multiple times you're not
free to go you did not say that ever not
free to go not free to go not free to go
not free to go not fre you did not say
that ever
this is on camera you did not say that
to me and have me understand it ever our
body cameras yes I've already foed two
sets of body cam footage now I get a
third sweet try to flick off the s or
the news while I'm doing this all right
now we're having fun come on guys just
cuz I'm white doesn't mean you can't
beat me up a little bit on the way oh
stop why would you not let me hit my
vape cuz I have no idea what's in there
yeah you've never seen a Nick fape dude
shut the up 5-year-old answer row up
dude come on man act like a man oh my
God a Swiss army knife shoot him I
didn't say any of that get in the back
of the bus we're going around to the
backside oh okay the Rosa Park said and
it's so fun being right even when
everything goes wrong I hope you guys
aren't men of Faith cuz you're not doing
it very good right now how dare he turn
over tables in the Pharisees
Court got CDL and everything like he's
got all the driver's license
endorsements problem is he whenever he
gets pushed back or questioned about you
know his message he just comes unhinged
and starts cursing at people thr
temperary ter accusing them of not being
tolerant of
him I like the part where you also told
me I couldn't leave but you didn't
actually do that I also like the part
where you read my Miranda rights I can
put on three times the show for you this
time and annoy the [ __ ] out of your
correctional officers you know they had
to give me clothes when I left they were
soing pissed nine dudes escorted me out
after aing Miss to me out of that jail I
whistled all night after they stuck me
in isolation why are you arresting me
right now I'm trying to leave so I might
just bring him down there and just order
him in from the jail then just to get
him out of here and everything don't
call it a jail dude call it an isolation
chamber put me back in the Pod you Fu
you're literally letting the people
enforce the back of the bus policy right
now so I was just trying to leave the
situation peaceably and you arrested me
like a bunch of [ __ ] monsters take me
to your isolation chamber you're not
even going to spend the night in jail
what the ever dude jail church parking
lot I don't give a [ __ ] anymore I have
nothing to lose sight my ass stick a
finger up there I don't give a [ __ ] it's
a criminal STP me naked and throw me in
the [ __ ] highway I don't care I'm
already saved I'm on a mission from God
to help the poor wake the [ __ ] up
hardest call of your year at least this
is the hardest call of my year I will be
very happy with this year oh well now
you're comparing it to like violence or
something and you're not understanding
the metaphor so you can just process
that one in the back of your head for a
while it'll said the hardest call of the
year yeah it'll come to you clearly not
hard hardest is not not an absolute dude
it's a concept it can apply in multiple
ways no wonder people say all cops are
bad cuz half of you guys get in this
mindset so deep that you end up sitting
on necks and killing people it's not
complicated my guy I'm like kind of
upset you didn't escalate even farther
on me I really wanted you to me up and
hurt me that really would have made my
statement honestly if you were secretly
an ally that's what you would have done
just break my leg or something and then
as soon as I got off the property you
bounced out and jumped on me to put me
in cuffs dude don't fing make up a story
you a body cam I've already done Foy
your requests this is just another one
okay so don't [ __ ] me that's why you
have a body cam you can't [ __ ]
people who aren't bullshitters upon
arriving at the jail parking lot the
officer completed an arrest card for
Seth and he was then free to leave or
can you not somehow give me a citation
without me taking a aing receipt now
you're getting a criminal arrest you're
just being ordered in your court data
not going into the jail criminal arrest
for what for resisting for resisting
fail jumping and then your Citation for
the why you just making up [ __ ] dude
do you even have a brain your dat dud I
don't want you to read your since you're
not going into jail hour befor to get
fingerprinted and photograph something
important before so now that you're
actually saying I want to hear it I
don't want to hear it at all so pretend
like you're doing your job Char is
resisting bail jumping andly nothing
you're saying is relevant or true
sit here andout at me I'm going to at
11:00 going to take me to jail you have
any questions neither there's no other
situation where this concludes you
either let me out of the car you put me
in jail or you shut the up and then I
shut the [ __ ] up have you met Seth yet a
lot of them have met me dude I already
told you this story okay this is my
first day meeting you yeah okay well
you're doing a job of it dude I thought
it was
fine dude this hurts why are you smiling
man it's not funny it's not
funny there's nothing funny about this
someone being upset and uncomfortable is
not
funny God where's Nate dude kicks ass at
his job right he's a good cop I agree I
think I do okay listen to yourself dude
I think I do okay grow up dude you're a
[ __ ] cop great I lost my shoe all
right I'll grow it yeah I know there you
go all right your paperwork's in your
backpack everything's in your backpack
with your signs right there or take the
handcuffs off you're not allowed back up
at WQ anymore I'm still probably going
to walk back up there well don't because
then you will go to jail I can't walk on
the bike path you can then shut the up
dude you're not saying anything useful
go the stop talking to me if you're not
going to say anything of value then stop
pretending like you're doing an
important job right now you're not
you're letting me go in a parking lot to
go sleep outside again you you bouncer
okay I didn't we have to continue
contacting you this weekend you'll don't
give a [ __ ] about your fing Idol threats
dude shut the [ __ ] up shut theck up I
know my rights I know my rights well
enough to not be intimidated by your
little black outfit and silver bed
figure it out figure out what I'm doing
have a good one or don't and just be
aing deaded
robot have a good one yeah have a good
one sleeping
outside your brain which way did we come
from that way oh sorry
outside St he wants to go to jail but
he's doing the bare minimum and so the
just leave him
as Seth walked away he proudly grabbed
his Masterpiece and shouted at the
officers he subsequently took the arrest
card out of his backpack confidently
wiped his ass with it and then crumpled
up the paperwork before shoving it down
his
pants in the end Seth was charged with
misdemeanor counts of resisting
obstructing an officer and bail jumping
he also received the $213 disorderly
conduct citation he was ultimately given
a $1,000 signature bond with conditions
to have no contact with the news station
however as of September 16th he failed
to appear in court resulting in an
arrest warrant being
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